Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium.
My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
The only way besides using the cloud backup would to have a second phone running pie. Wipe it and set it up as new then use the transfer tool to transfer everything over. Then do the same to your pixel when you need the backup.
It's alot of work and most people don't have a spare phone, but it is an option
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kmandel said:
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium.
My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
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You could just unlock the phone and run a TWRP backup. Does not require root.
Of course, because you didn't unlock the phone when you received it, doing so now will wipe the device.
superchilpil said:
The only way besides using the cloud backup
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By the cloud backup, do you mean the built in backup to google drive? Does that really save all the app configuration? It certainly didn't when I did my Nexus 6 to Pixel 3 migration. Some of the apps came up as if they were first time installs.
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By the cloud backup, do you mean the built in backup to google drive? Does that really save all the app configuration? It certainly didn't when I did my Nexus 6 to Pixel 3 migration. Some of the apps came up as if they were first time installs.
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I have tried and experimented with endless apps that promise to do this without success. Helium Backup works with very limited success in some cases and only for some apps. The problem is that it's not supported anymore and never really worked well. But this is one of the shortcomings of Android. I don't know why in 2018 (almost 2019) they still haven't figured out a way to backup all settings, app content and everything else without having to root the dam phone. To me, this is one of the main reasons why I rooted literally out of the box. I installed Titanium and had everything up and running in less than an hour. IMHO, it's worth wiping the phone, going through the headache once in your life and then ensuring you have the backup forever in a safe place. My previous phone was a rooted Note 4. I just transfered the Nite 4's Titanium backup to a USB-c drive, attached this drive to the new Pixel 3 Xl and recovered every single app and it's configuration in a matter of minutes. I have over 250 apps on my phone and some very specific configurations I like to use. The alternative would have been spending a day or two manually setting up each app and repeating it all over again each time I buy a new phone. I got tired of that in the past. Root is one of the main reasons why people get Pixels. Sadly, I don't know of any other way to effectively do it.
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kmandel said:
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium. My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
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No there is not. You may try one of the many non-root backup programs like Swift Backup that are better at restoring app settings. That is why it is always better to unlock as soon as you get the phone. Any time at all spent setting the phone up is wasted until after it is properly unlocked. Google backup has come a very long way and it will quickly restore all your (Play) user apps but has many caveats as you have found. If the app data is small, it usually is restored, but if you have game data, MMS, music, etc. It obviously will not. The combination Google cloud backup + Titanium Backup (to restore missing apps and data) is the best way I have found when starting with a completely blank slate. In advance of a complete wipe, I transfer a copy of my latest TiBu folder to the PC, along with Nova Launcher backup. After initially setting the phone up (not using data transfer), I allow Google backup to restore until fully complete 100%. When it is done, I transfer the TiBu folder back on to the PC and run it to restore only missing apps and data. Lastly I use the Nova backup file to restore all launcher settings, shortcuts and widgets. This doesn't take very long and gets me to about 95%.
kmandel said:
Is there anyway to get a complete backup without root. By complete I mean including the app configurations. I used to do this on my Nexus 6 with Titanium Backup. But I haven't rooted the Pixel 3 (or unlocked the bootloader) yet so I can't run Titanium.
My sense is that the google backup/restore just reloads the latest version of the apps without configuration (or at least seems to do that on many apps).
This is only a Pixel 3 question in the sense that my hope is that there is something new by now.
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You can try running the backup command in adb. https://9to5google.com/2017/11/04/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-data-android-basics/
Eudeferrer said:
I have tried and experimented with endless apps that promise to do this without success. Helium Backup works with very limited success in some cases and only for some apps. The problem is that it's not supported anymore and never really worked well. But this is one of the shortcomings of Android. I don't know why in 2018 (almost 2019) they still haven't figured out a way to backup all settings, app content and everything else without having to root the dam phone. To me, this is one of the main reasons why I rooted literally out of the box. I installed Titanium and had everything up and running in less than an hour. IMHO, it's worth wiping the phone, going through the headache once in your life and then ensuring you have the backup forever in a safe place. My previous phone was a rooted Note 4. I just transfered the Nite 4's Titanium backup to a USB-c drive, attached this drive to the new Pixel 3 Xl and recovered every single app and it's configuration in a matter of minutes. I have over 250 apps on my phone and some very specific configurations I like to use. The alternative would have been spending a day or two manually setting up each app and repeating it all over again each time I buy a new phone. I got tired of that in the past. Root is one of the main reasons why people get Pixels. Sadly, I don't know of any other way to effectively do it.
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And the problem is you won't get notifications for many of the apps if they are restored using Titanium Backup
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Anyone know of an application that can backup application data together with market links? (for non-rooted phones)
I know TB can do that and I already use that, but now my worry comes in when SE is releasing an update this week and we aren't sure whether we are able to root after this!
I was thinking the same.. I've backed up using mybackup pro.. backs up app and data.. not sure about market links though, but it's the best non rooted back up I've found..
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im_iceman said:
I was thinking the same.. I've backed up using mybackup pro.. backs up app and data.. not sure about market links though, but it's the best non rooted back up I've found..
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Thanks for the reply.
I've used Mybackup Pro before with my X10, but I it couldn't backup the data unless you provide the "root" access to it and the restoration isn't as good as TB when it comes to rooted phone.
The biggest question here is that when the update is delivered, will we be able to root again using the Gingerbreak? If yes, then I've no problem sticking with TB, but if not then my worries start
I for one am not going to update until i know the new version can be rooted.
Other than that, i can second the recommendation to use mybackup pro. It's not a titanium replacement by any means, but it gets the essentials (sms, calendar, etc etc) done perfectly well (in fact i use it for this sort of thing in preference to TB anyway).
daveybaby said:
I for one am not going to update until i know the new version can be rooted.
Other than that, i can second the recommendation to use mybackup pro. It's not a titanium replacement by any means, but it gets the essentials (sms, calendar, etc etc) done perfectly well (in fact i use it for this sort of thing in preference to TB anyway).
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Yep. Agreed.
But here I'm looking at something which can backup the data of the application as well without a rooted phone and restore it in a non-rooted phone.
Any suggestion?
sounds like this needs root to work then..
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sounds like this needs root to work then..
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Disappointed.
Most of the phones out there (Android excluded) can do this. The best example is iPhone; thought I don't like it, I like this feature. That's the whole idea for us to connect to the PC every now and then. I don't know how hard it is for the phone makers to come up with something like this to backup the whole phone, including apps and their data; while they have access to everything since they are the manufacture of the phone.
Every now and then, surely there will be software updates and they will wipe the data. We have to setup it up from scratch and it takes a long time for that and more or less you will loss the application's data; unless you are rooted and use TB to backup; provided the "root" is still available for that software update.
Previously I tried a simple application for backing up the data of the famous game "Angry Birds". This app requires no "root", but does the job pretty well. Now when a third party application can do that means surely the phone maker should be able to do more than that!!
sprite backup is what i used before titanium backup. no need for root, but it stores everything in batch backups...
akusokuzan said:
sprite backup is what i used before titanium backup. no need for root, but it stores everything in batch backups...
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Does that application have a option to backup application (from market) together with it's data? Am I able to choose which application to backup/restore? Classic example is backup "Angry Birds" with it's completed levels and it's settings.
After the update my phone has become quite slow and freezes at times for 1-2 seconds. I would like to do a factory reset to see whether it can solve the problem but only thing stopping me from doing that is I couldn't find a software (be it a PC based software or and Phone application) that could backup my phone's application together with their data!
Any more advises or help?
Hi.
I come from an HTC Desire and I have some backups that I made with MyBackup Pro of some app's data. Relevant data like some games progresses, Libra's database, etc. MyBackupPro has an online backup and I backed the data online on the HTC Desire and tried to restore it in the Galaxy Nexus. The Galaxy Nexus recognizes the backup, shows the apps that are backed up, but when I press Restore it says that I should reboot the device and that the restore was OK almost instantaneously. Nothing is restored, no data is transferred to the phone..
Is there any other way to migrate this kind of data? Shouldn't MyBackup Pro be working on the Galaxy Nexus?
Thanks in advance
Anyone?
Maybe the app needs an update for ICS? Try to check their site to see if there's a reported problem, that's most likely the case.
Should have gone with Titanium Backup. I never had much luck with MyBackup anyway. Titanium is rock star on ICS.
The only problem Ive had so far has been restoring SMS with Pro.
Even with busy box installed its suuuper slow at the moment.
I sent them an email, I'll wait for an answer.. But I guess it is due to incompatibilities with ICS too..
AmesCell, I have always used MyBackup while using the Desire, never had a problem. Anyway, I still have the Desire and can use Titanium, but my Galaxy Nexus isn't rooted, and Titanium needs root.
eddie_gordo said:
I sent them an email, I'll wait for an answer.. But I guess it is due to incompatibilities with ICS too..
AmesCell, I have always used MyBackup while using the Desire, never had a problem. Anyway, I still have the Desire and can use Titanium, but my Galaxy Nexus isn't rooted, and Titanium needs root.
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Your signature says your Desire is rooted. Rooting the GN is easy. I go through 4 phones a year. I couldn't imagine doing that without Titanium.
Yes, the Desire is rooted, but I wasn't planning on rooting the GN so soon. I just got it 2 days ago and I want to see how this goes without any "hacks"..
I wouldn't have rooted the Desire in the first place if it wasn't for the lack of updates, etc... That's the main reason I bought the GN, having a more official support. Let's see, I'm almost sure that I'll root it in the future, but I don't want to do it right now.. I'll just wait for the Rerware answer to my email and see how it goes.
Thanks
Any update?
Rerware already answered, but no updates. Although I think I know what the problem is. I am only backup up app's Data, because they are already installed in the GN. But this is a "root only" feature and, for what I understood, non-rooted devices cannot restore this kind of backup, only APK backups. I asked this to the guys at Rerware to see if there is a workaround.
When I have news I'll post them here.
eddie_gordo said:
Yes, the Desire is rooted, but I wasn't planning on rooting the GN so soon. I just got it 2 days ago and I want to see how this goes without any "hacks"..
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restoring your data/sms/backups is a "hack"
Hi,
Did you manage to find a solution to this problem? My phone is rooted and it still doesnt restore anything. Just like you said it finds the backup but then when you select the arrow next to apps to tick which ones you want to restore nothing is shown..
I need this to restore my game saves, spotify offline music etc
This happened to me with my sensation before. Somehow the backup got corrupted to I deleted it and started from scratch. Sorry to hear this happened to you it seriously sucks losing akk that stuff. What I've been doing is using from manager to restore my data partition and I've never had any issues SO FAR.
Enable advanced options, click restore and restore backup and only select the data.
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I managed to solve the problem......
First my story:
I decided to install new ROM on my phone....i backed up apps and data with My Backup Pro (i bought the app)
My phone is rooted of course.
So i installed the new ROM and then i installed the My Backup Pro and started to restoring apps but i didn't get the app/data/app+data popup
and of course i couldn't restore my data from apps. i got really frustrated and browsed the web and couldn't find anything.
I started everything from the begining uninstalled all apps and figured it out that i did something wrong....and that is this that My Backup Pro doesn't work as it should without busy box...u have to install Busy Box before installing the My Backup Pro!
Follow this tutorial in order to restore your apps + data
Backing up apps on android (rooted) after installing new ROM
With My backup pro application
1. Backup apps + data
2. Backup dictionary
3. Backup all other data you want to
Install new ROM and then start restoring by this order
1. first install busy boxes i found there are two (BusyBox and BusyBox installer on the google store. install both)
2. install My backup pro and when asked to install additional options for rooted phone choose yes (now you should be able to choose between app/data/app+data to restore)
3. restore apps + data
4. thats it...enjoy!
It worked for me!! :good:
So here's a question for you guys.....................
I have the HTC One M8 and am rooted and S-OFF, as well as ViperOne M8 and Titanium Backup.
Whenever I get an update from Team Venom for ViperOne, I notice it says just as it's finishing the reboot (post-install) that it's upgrading my apps. So does that mean that the backups that I have (for my apps) which are stored in Titanium Backup are no longer current? I don't think the upgrade process affects the backed up data that was done pre-install, so it seems like that data would be outdated at this point?
Please answer if you think you know.
Thank You,
RockStar2005
RockStar2005 said:
So here's a question for you guys.....................
I have the HTC One M8 and am rooted and S-OFF, as well as ViperOne M8 and Titanium Backup.
Whenever I get an update from Team Venom for ViperOne, I notice it says just as it's finishing the reboot (post-install) that it's upgrading my apps. So does that mean that the backups that I have (for my apps) which are stored in Titanium Backup are no longer current? I don't think the upgrade process affects the backed up data that was done pre-install, so it seems like that data would be outdated at this point?
Please answer if you think you know.
Thank You,
RockStar2005
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No it doesn't, usually when developers release a new ROM update they also update all of their stock apps on their ROM to the newest versions. Because of that, when you reboot it tends to say that because it is updating the apps for it and or caching them. (this is to my knowledge of how it works, still though your backups are fine)
Hopefully you are only talking user installed apps? Is not a good idea to be restoring system apps.
correct, YOUR apps, that you backed up to TB are current as of the day you backed them up.
once you restore them, via TB, then of course, open play store, and let it check and see if there are any updates to YOUR previously backed up apps.
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
No it doesn't, usually when developers release a new ROM update they also update all of their stock apps on their ROM to the newest versions. Because of that, when you reboot it tends to say that because it is updating the apps for it and or caching them. (this is to my knowledge of how it works, still though your backups are fine)
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So ViperOne is updating TB for me? If so, is that updating the TB backups as well??
Thank You,
RockStar2005
RockStar2005 said:
So ViperOne is updating TB for me? If so, is that updating the TB backups as well??
Thank You,
RockStar2005
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It is updating any apps that come with the ROM such as the HTC TV app or other HTC apps, TB is not included because it is not one of the pre-loaded apps that the developer included with the ROM. Also as stated above, the TB backups are not touched by this, they stay the same as they were when you made them soo you have to update the backups yourself if you wanted to.
Shadowz,
Ok, that's what I thought. I just needed to hear you say it in a different way to be sure. lol
So anytime there's a new update, I'm gonna need to re-backup all the apps with TB then. Seems like TB is only good if you mess something up and wanna restore the apps' data. When you're just doing an incremental update, or especially a full ROM install, then it's useless. I may just uninstall it.
Thanks Shadowz!
RockStar2005
Not really useless. You can create a daily schedule to backup your apps and data so you stay always current
stathis95194 said:
Not really useless. You can create a daily schedule to backup your apps and data so you stay always current
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THIS is the proper way to use TB...
I've used TB for years. After flashing clean, I just restore my user apps, data also for some and aside from a few system settings.... I'm right back how I was.
I use Nova, so restoring it's settings puts my home screens right back how they were too.
Not sure why people would want to mess with Nandroid data restores when this whole process above takes hardly any time and never brings issues. ?
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Not really useless. You can create a daily schedule to backup your apps and data so you stay always current
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Ehh, it was late last night when I posted that, and I was cranky. lol
I don't have the PRO/donate version ($5.99?? geez), so I can only schedule up to 2 days max for automatic backups.
Thanks Stathis.
RockStar2005
this was one of the first apps I bought years ago, as it has saved my butt many times over the years..
KJ said:
I've used TB for years. After flashing clean, I just restore my user apps, data also for some and aside from a few system settings.... I'm right back how I was.
I use Nova, so restoring it's settings puts my home screens right back how they were too.
Not sure why people would want to mess with Nandroid data restores when this whole process above takes hardly any time and never brings issues. ?
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Hi KJ,
Yeah I noticed that too as I also have Nova.
So you're saying you never do any nandroid backups? Interesting. Where do you save the TB backup files? I don't like saving them on internal storage, so I just transfer them to a flash drive or OneDrive (formerly SkyDrive).
Thanks,
RockStar2005
RockStar2005 said:
Hi KJ,
Yeah I noticed that too as I also have Nova.
So you're saying you never do any nandroid backups? Interesting. Where do you save the TB backup files? I don't like saving them on internal storage, so I just transfer them to a flash drive or OneDrive (formerly SkyDrive).
Thanks,
RockStar2005
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I occasionally do a nandroid. Only for a full restore. And usually just before wiping and Flashing something. I don't always, cause I can flash roms or stock manually just as easy.
And I just keep my TB backups on the device.
KJ said:
I occasionally do a nandroid. Only for a full restore. And usually just before wiping and Flashing something. I don't always, cause I can flash roms or stock manually just as easy.
And I just keep my TB backups on the device.
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KJ,
I see. Ok. I'm still gonna do them, but more for emergencies than anything.
I did that but then one time recently something happened and my internal storage got wiped clean. I save a copy on my external SD card, but then I thought "what if my phone got lost?", and decided to just store it on flash or cloud. Just wish TB would let you store it on THEIR own server so you don't have to worry about doing it manually or automatically elsewhere. The options they have like Google Drive don't offer as much space. I have Google Drive but don't want to give up the space. And I think DropBox is only 1 GIG? There is that Titanium variant that stores them automatically for only $2.99, but that got bad reviews.
Thanks,
RockStar2005
I've used TB for a few years now (paid version). I use it mainly to backup my user data just in case. Right now my M8 is stock (just got it and I wait until my warrenty is up before rooting etc) so I'm not really using it now. When I do root I'll be able to take my user data from a few games I'm playing on my rooted Transformer Prime and put the data on my phone. That's really the only thing I use TB for execpt for freezing bloatware so I can unfreeze, use Voodo Root Keeper (if it works on the device) and get OTA's. User data is always my biggest priority. I can reinstall any apps from the play store. Yes, this can take some time but doing it this way, when I f-up I can pick and choose what apps I put back on and leave off apps that I installed in the past but never use anymore. To each is own I guess. One good example was about a year ago Google updated the standard music app. I hated it. It screwed up all my album art and I hated the new interface. I used TB to restore the older version and it was like it never happened.
It's been awhile since I've dabbled with messing with my phone much (on the 2XL, had a 6P before that and unlocked it but that was it). I am thinking it might be time to wipe the device and start fresh, but wondering what the "best" method for backing up and then restoring is for the wipe. I was never great with making the proper backup to restore from so usually ended up re-adding stuff manually and setting everything up again - would love to avoid that. Is the android/google drive backup and restore option sufficient? Is there a better method out there? I don't have a ton of customizations on this phone this time around but avoiding the hassle would be sweet. All photos are backed up to drive, and I can turn on to backups a few other folders as well. Otherwise its just passwords, wifi networks, bluetooth devices, home screen setup, app settings, etc, etc that I hope to maintain.
Also, this phone is NOT unlocked yet but I will probably do that when I wipe it.
I've never used the native backup and restore method, so I can't really comment on that.
- I use Titanium Backup for all my apps
- I create a Nova backup for my launcher (Nova Launcher)
- I transfer my internal storage to my computer (music, photos, videos and so on)
- once I wipe, I restore all that and the only thing I need to setup from scratch is basically everything in system settings, which I've gotten pretty quick at doing now that I've done it several times.
Unfortunately, Titanium Backup requires root, something I guess you can't achieve without unlocking your bootloader first (which requires a wipe).
I guess the best thing would be to try the native backup and restore option or wait for someone else to provide you with better non-root alternatives.
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It's been awhile since I've dabbled with messing with my phone much (on the 2XL, had a 6P before that and unlocked it but that was it). I am thinking it might be time to wipe the device and start fresh, but wondering what the "best" method for backing up and then restoring is for the wipe. I was never great with making the proper backup to restore from so usually ended up re-adding stuff manually and setting everything up again - would love to avoid that. Is the android/google drive backup and restore option sufficient? Is there a better method out there? I don't have a ton of customizations on this phone this time around but avoiding the hassle would be sweet. All photos are backed up to drive, and I can turn on to backups a few other folders as well. Otherwise its just passwords, wifi networks, bluetooth devices, home screen setup, app settings, etc, etc that I hope to maintain. Also, this phone is NOT unlocked yet but I will probably do that when I wipe it.
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Google Backup has improved vastly over the past year or two, so make sure you have it switched on and actively working (including Photos). It's great. I use TiBu also but I don't use it for any System/GApps- usually only "non-market" and root apps so if you don't have those, you don't necessarily need it, but if you do store it OFFLINE. If you use a 3rd party launcher (eg. Nova), backup your "shortcuts" and settings beforehand OFFLINE. Here's one suggestion:
Disclaimer: Before you start, make sure you have the very latest fastboot/adb binaries installed (August 2018). A standalone version is available you just dump into one folder and verify it is working.
Unlock your bootloader (twice) using sticky guides (Nathan). It's important to do the unlock_critical at the same time. You will be starting from a blank slate. Flash the latest full factory image from Google using the provided script (See the Guide). Once you log back into your account, let Google Backup do it's thing fully and completely. Once finished, run TiBu (OPTIONAL) and restore "missing apps" ONLY which are any apps remaining not already installed by Google Backup. Restore your launcher backup, and you are done. I did this last weekend and from a blank slate it took me about one hour to get back everything the way I had it (not a gamer). If you have no non-market / root apps you can skip TiBu be back up and running even quicker. Google Backups is your friend. In closing, don't under-estimate the value of using a 3rd party launcher and it's built-in backup file. Which ever launcher you choose will really pay dividends when you finish restoring from Google Backup. Your desktop icons, widgets, and all pages will be restored just like you had them before. Best of luck.
Appreciate the response, thanks. Is the desktop/home screen config only able to be backed up and restored with the 3rd party launcher? Haven't touched a different non-stock launcher since I think Nova on my Samsung S4, but sounds like there could still be a benefit there?
v12xke said:
Google Backup has improved vastly over the past year or two, so make sure you have it switched on and actively working (including Photos). It's great. I use TiBu also but I don't use it for any System/GApps- usually only "non-market" and root apps so if you don't have those, you don't necessarily need it, but if you do store it OFFLINE. If you use a 3rd party launcher (eg. Nova), backup your "shortcuts" and settings beforehand OFFLINE. Here's one suggestion:
Disclaimer: Before you start, make sure you have the very latest fastboot/adb binaries installed (August 2018). A standalone version is available you just dump into one folder and verify it is working.
Unlock your bootloader (twice) using sticky guides (Nathan). It's important to do the unlock_critical at the same time. You will be starting from a blank slate. Flash the latest full factory image from Google using the provided script (See the Guide). Once you log back into your account, let Google Backup do it's thing fully and completely. Once finished, run TiBu (OPTIONAL) and restore "missing apps" ONLY which are any apps remaining not already installed by Google Backup. Restore your launcher backup, and you are done. I did this last weekend and from a blank slate it took me about one hour to get back everything the way I had it (not a gamer). If you have no non-market / root apps you can skip TiBu be back up and running even quicker. Google Backups is your friend. In closing, don't under-estimate the value of using a 3rd party launcher and it's built-in backup file. Which ever launcher you choose will really pay dividends when you finish restoring from Google Backup. Your desktop icons, widgets, and all pages will be restored just like you had them before. Best of luck.
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Norcalz71 said:
Appreciate the response, thanks. Is the desktop/home screen config only able to be backed up and restored with the 3rd party launcher? Haven't touched a different non-stock launcher since I think Nova on my Samsung S4, but sounds like there could still be a benefit there?
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If you are asking how complete the stock Pixel launcher backup is (or if it even offers a backup), I cannot answer. I have always used Nova on all my devices and can only speak to the backup/restore capabilities of it. I don't want to get up on a soap box here, but Nova is worth every penny. Once you restore all your apps, run the launcher backup/restore and you are DONE. Everything is back. Once, I lost my tablet launcher backup and used my Nova phone backup and it restored perfectly to my tablet. I would venture to say that if the launcher is not backed up, THAT is where all the time is in recovering an existing setup. Creating pages of shortcuts and widgets is a pain and that is even if you kept screenshots of them. I also know Nova will "import" your Google launcher settings, so you can easily switch over to Nova before your wipe and then backup your settings. Give it a whirl.
I always used Titanium Backup and still do as a backup but Swift Backup has become my main app for flashing and restoring between ROMs etc. Nicer interface and I don't have to pick and choose between stuff I want to restore as much compared to batch restore missing apps on Titanium.
Titanium Pro and TWRP nandroid...
Hello everyone!
I pre-ordered my Pixel 6 Pro and received it a couple of weeks ago. I did not immediately unlock the bootloader as I didn't see the need (as I would need to wipe anyway once I install a Google-spyware-free ROM.) However, since development is proceeding smoothly enough (thanks to everyone who's working hard on that!) I'm starting to look at options of how to back up my data in case of a future wipe.
In the golden days of Android development, I used to use Titanium (with root), which also worked without root, really. What do people use nowadays (beyond Google) to back up their Android phones?
Thanks a lot in advance!
SwiftBackup
Nekromantik said:
SwiftBackup
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There really is no other answer than this one. Migrate is fantastic too - but Swift backup is objectively better. It really is just click/press button and forget, in ease of use.
Some apps don't properly back up each respective app properly, which is why I still use tibu for some things. But I find myself using tibu less and less.
ROOT:
Code:
echo "Demonstrates fzf for interactive selection of multiple packages"
for APP in $(pm list packages | fzf -m)
do
APP=$( echo ${APP} | sed "s/^package://")
adb backup -f ${APP}.backup ${APP}
done
ADB:
Code:
for APP in $(adb shell pm list packages | grep -E 'accubattery|betterbatterystats|etc|etc|etc')
do
APP=$( echo ${APP} | sed "s/^package://")
adb backup -f ${APP}.backup ${APP}
done
Nekromantik said:
SwiftBackup
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From what I've read, and for what most backup apps are capable of, if you wanna backup app data you have to be rooted.
If you're stock then some developers can limit adb backup from even taking place, so I'm finding options are limited the longer you go without rooting right away.
I talked to the SwiftBackup support yesteday ( old phone OnePlus, new phone pixel ) and was told my "true" backup/restore solution would be with root... Less than root would not get me done.
( so root means TiB pro ? ? ? ) ( ouch, last updated on: November 24th, 2019)
I hate that Android backups are devoid of data backup unless you're rooted or a developer allows you to do such a thing in a vanilla backup. It shouldn't be a choice and should be standard across all apps. It's one area where I prefer apple backups to Android.
old_fart said:
I talked to the SwiftBackup support yesteday ( old phone OnePlus, new phone pixel ) and was told my "true" backup/restore solution would be with root... Less than root would not get me done.
( so root means TiB pro )
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Yeah, but Swift is objectively better as a general backup tool than TiBu these days
yes I meant as rooted backup tool Swift is better
I used to use TiBi but it no longer worked on backing up sms from android 10 so I switched to Swift.
Swift is not as fast and yes one or two apps backup does not work but I found support pretty good
Just checked Swift Backup and even without root it does seem like a valid option. My only concern is that requires a Google login to use? I imagine that, unlike Google's actual Android backup, this would work even without gapps installed (potentially), but just wondering if anyone could confirm that?
From other devices I used to use TWRP backup by just hooking each and every partition and copying the backup file to the PC afterwards. If anything went wrong I simply restored the TWRP backup. Is there a way to do this kind of backup manually from the PC?
RetroTech07 said:
I hate that Android backups are devoid of data backup unless you're rooted or a developer allows you to do such a thing in a vanilla backup. It shouldn't be a choice and should be standard across all apps. It's one area where I prefer apple backups to Android.
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Any app that has been updated to institute Google's standard of cloud backups (started what, at least 3-4 years ago?) will have its app data backed up. I blame the developers who choose not to do this when it would be very helpful.
Non-root would be half pointless if you could have full access to all your apps' data including the ability to edit it.
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Any app that has been updated to institute Google's standard of cloud backups (started what, at least 3-4 years ago?) will have its app data backed up. I blame the developers who choose not to do this when it would be very helpful.
Non-root would be half pointless if you could have full access to all your apps' data including the ability to edit it.
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I'd like to root, but would have to sift through all of the new info that's been provided. It'll take some time going from beginning to end, but never do I worry about backups because I'm in control of my data.
When I transitioned over from my old pixel 2xl to the 6 with the data transfer, none of my apps retained data or login info. It's kinda pointless for the transfer to have to redownload every single app and retain nothing except SMS. I don't understand why the process sucks as bad as it does. Why can't it just transfer everything from one device to another? I might as well just not even bother with it and should have rooted it then.
Nekromantik said:
yes I meant as rooted backup tool Swift is better
I used to use TiBi but it no longer worked on backing up sms from android 10 so I switched to Swift.
Swift is not as fast and yes one or two apps backup does not work but I found support pretty good
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There's a good SMS/MMS backup app in the play store that I have used for many years if you'd ever like to try it. I understand you're using swift, but this app doesn't require root to work.
If you are rooted, OAndBackupX is a great tool... It's free and open-source, and a fully featured product. It has some limited capabilities without root, but if you want a full backup with app data, you'd need root.
GitHub - NeoApplications/Neo-Backup: backup manager for android
backup manager for android. Contribute to NeoApplications/Neo-Backup development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
Neo Backup | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
The open-source tool to backup your apps and data
f-droid.org
For SMS, MMS & RCS backup, you can try SMS Backup & Restore (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore). RCS support is still experimental, but SMS & MMS backup & restore works well.
Just a reminder: Because of the requirement to disable dm-verity and vbmeta verification when flashing a patched boot image, you will have to wipe data when doing so. If you have not yet unlocked your bootloader, this is a non issue, as you can disable AVB after unlocking the bootloader.