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Hi,
Does anyone know if WP7 will have IMAP IDLE for push email support with non-ActiveSync accounts?
Thanks.
So now that people are getting their devices, has anyone tested Push email with an IMAP account?
Google and windows live support activesync. Ehy do you need battery-killing IMAP?
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N8ter said:
Google and windows live support activesync. Ehy do you need battery-killing IMAP?
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Riiiiight. Because Gmail and an Exchange server are the only email systems in the world that anyone would ever possibly want to use or need to use.
DuoM said:
Riiiiight. Because Gmail and an Exchange server are the only email systems in the world that anyone would ever possibly want to use or need to use.
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Hm, yes.
Or, you know, you still use Aol.
/sarcasm
DuoM said:
Riiiiight. Because Gmail and an Exchange server are the only email systems in the world that anyone would ever possibly want to use or need to use.
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That was a questiom for a reason. Don't troll me...
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N8ter said:
Google and windows live support activesync. Ehy do you need battery-killing IMAP?
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Since you're smartassing, in what way does IMAP kill batteries? Pretty please?
N8ter said:
That was a questiom for a reason. *Don't troll me...
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I'm sorry but your reply just reads as a sarcastic comment and that's how I saw it.
I have a number of email accounts that I have to manage and a number of identities on some of the accounts.
I use:
Exchange
Hotmail
Yahoo
Gmail
IMAP
There are several Gmail and IMAP accounts, multiple identities on the IMAP and Yahoo accounts, and multiple domains on the IMAP accounts.
These cover work and personal accounts.
One problem is that I need to use different identities when replying to certain emails, for example [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], etc and when an email is sent from [email protected] it needs to come from [email protected] and not "From: [email protected] Sent on Behalf of [email protected]".
Similarly if I send an email from [email protected]omeplace.com it has to come from [email protected] and not "From: [email protected] on Behalf of [email protected]".
I can do this with IMAP but I don't know how to do it with any of the ActiveSync accounts listed. I can change the From address on Exchange but I would have to be able to switch it on the server each time I wanted to send from a different address and that means sitting at a desktop making config changes, which defeats the purpose of mobile email.
There is one other issue In WP7 it is possible to have a number of accounts using ActiveSync. I could setup multiple Exchange, Gmail or Hotmail accounts with my most used domains and identities however this would cause a lot more drain on the battery than having a single IMAP account that allows me to have multiple identities and domains for sending email.
On Windows Mobile, to reduce the amount of polling I have tried services like Momail and Seven to try and get the kind of low overhead service that I get on my Blackberry but in the end I always end up disabling Momail and removing the Seven package
It may be possible to get rid of the Yahoo account over time (they have IMAP but without the IDLE) but the others would have to remain for various reasons and getting rid of Yahoo would mean moving several identities onto the main IMAP server, which wouldn't be a problem as long as there was a way to use those identities.
I'd love to be able to have it all going to one ActiveSync account but I don't think that's possible at the moment.
So, back to my original question.
Tom Servo said:
Since you're smartassing, in what way does IMAP kill batteries? Pretty please?
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IMAP polls way more than push protocols, even with IDLE and it results in factorably more battery usage.
Use a packet analyzer and compare IMAP to activesync. Get back to me with your results. Theres a reason google implemented activesync and microsoft used deltasync over imap and then implemented activesync for windows live...
Im not here to educate you. Youre more than capable.
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Tom Servo said:
Since you're smartassing, in what way does IMAP kill batteries? Pretty please?
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I think he was genuinely asking a question with an observation he's made thrown in...
Why are people so >:O on the wp7 forums.... o.o
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Anyone know of a way to sync a government email account directly to the EVO...I set up a separate gmail where it gets forwarded to but figured this has to be possible somehow... the managers and higher ups have theirs synced with a blackberry....
Do you have OWA access?
What that means is let's say you're at my house and you want to check your email from your job, can you go to my computer and go to a special website to access your work email?
Do you have to connect through VPN (Virtual Private Network)?
If the answer is YES to the first question then you can set it up for your phone through Exchange. Now you wouldn't be able to set it up if your employer has a Blackberry Server because that would mean you can only do it via a BB or WM device with Blackberry Connect software. If your employer uses an Exchange server you can have them help you set it up. You have to verify that it's ok for you to have your email going through your phone because many employers have strict policies regarding access levels of employees.
There is a website I can go to when I'm on a network computer to access the email... I've tried Exchange and got nothing
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Ok when you say "networked computer" are you talking about your work intranet or any computer that has web access.
If the answer is the second one you want to basically find out the server address. You can view your server address by going into Microsoft Outlook (if you use that at work) and going into Tools-Account Settings-Clicking on the account and hitting Change. If you can't find it in there you can have a fellow BB user log into their BIS Blackberry login and use the server address that they have configured online if they have their email setup as IMAP or POP. If they are on AT&T they can go to: bis.na.blackberry.com but every carrier has their own website.
You just just mirror the incoming server address (as long as you guys are on the same server) and set it up through your phone.
Put in your Email & Password. The domain is usually your work email address (without the slashes and symbols) and the server would be that server address you need to find. You also want to check if your server requires SSL or not.
extnct1 said:
Anyone know of a way to sync a government email account directly to the EVO...I set up a separate gmail where it gets forwarded to but figured this has to be possible somehow... the managers and higher ups have theirs synced with a blackberry....
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so wer u able to do it?
extnct1 said:
Anyone know of a way to sync a government email account directly to the EVO...I set up a separate gmail where it gets forwarded to but figured this has to be possible somehow... the managers and higher ups have theirs synced with a blackberry....
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extnct1 said:
There is a website I can go to when I'm on a network computer to access the email... I've tried Exchange and got nothing
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As a fellow government employee, if you want to keep you job, stop posting this now. Blackberries are secure and have a special server connection, you cannot sync via mobile with any other phone in most gov departments. If you do one of these workarounds and get caught in a post-wikileaks environment good luck to ya...
Call up the IT admins and just ask them what the ActiveSync settings are. Ta-da!
ccicchitelli said:
As a fellow government employee, if you want to keep you job, stop posting this now. Blackberries are secure and have a special server connection, you cannot sync via mobile with any other phone in most gov departments. If you do one of these workarounds and get caught in a post-wikileaks environment good luck to ya...
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I honestly doubt an employee getting emails to his phone that there's a Christmas party on Tuesday with a Secret Santa event is very Wikileaks-worthy. Quit being so over-reactive like Lieberman. If he was actually doing anything secure, he'd know better, and would have a Blackberry.
drmacinyasha said:
Call up the IT admins and just ask them what the ActiveSync settings are. Ta-da!
I honestly doubt an employee getting emails to his phone that there's a Christmas party on Tuesday with a Secret Santa event is very Wikileaks-worthy. Quit being so over-reactive like Lieberman. If he was actually doing anything secure, he'd know better, and would have a Blackberry.
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Activesync is usually disabled. Somebody got fired for improper thumbdrive usage last week. The rule has been on the book for a while, ignored until now. We were all given an extra warning after that at my location. Believe me I have nothing personal in this.
As title.
Where is the push email support for non gmail account?
There was never support for IMAP push and still isn't. Seems Google isn't particularly interested in changing that.
gokpog said:
There was never support for IMAP push and still isn't. Seems Google isn't particularly interested in changing that.
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really disappointed from this "revolutionary" ICS.
That's what gmail is for.
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kangxi said:
That's what gmail is for.
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gmail is for personal use, I have other emails with PUSH support but
my phone doesn't support it.
Set up you gmail account through exchange
falconeight said:
Set up you gmail account through exchange
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please understand what we are talking about.
Set your other account to forward to a gmail account. You can even set the Gmail account to reply from the "professional" account. Or set up a Google Apps account with your business domain.
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If it's exchange you're looking for, touchdown supports push. I've been using it for years it works well.
What type of account is this?
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i love Touchdown exchange for my work email. Probably the best part is the pin required by my company's security isnt applied to the whole device, I only have to enter the PIN to open the email application. Id hate to have to enter PIN just to send a text message.
I'm disappointed that Gmail doesn't have push using the email app. There's push support on the iPhone, so why not on a native Google device?
The AOSP email app has support for exchange.
JCopernicus said:
The AOSP email app has support for exchange.
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Thank you for clarifying. This whole thread just freaked me out. IMAP? Who cares! But, Exchange? Yes please!
cpcrazyfly said:
i love Touchdown exchange for my work email. Probably the best part is the pin required by my company's security isnt applied to the whole device, I only have to enter the PIN to open the email application. Id hate to have to enter PIN just to send a text message.
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I just got my Galaxy Nexus and was hoping that this would be something that ICS would resolve. My single biggest gripe with Android is lack of native PUSH email notifications for non-Gmail email accounts.
I shouldn't have to forward emails to my gmail account for this to work. That is not a solution, but merely a half-crack workaround.
I don't have the ability to use Google apps with my work email account.
I don't have an Exchange account, just an IMAP account. So it sounds like my only options are to get one of the shotty email clients in the app market or move to iPhone that supports this natively. I love android, this is just one of those things that's a priority for me. :-/
Kaiten Mail
Check out Kaiten Mail. Based off K9 email, but I think it works better, and works great on tablets too.
https://market.android.com/details?...lt#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5rYWl0ZW5tYWlsIl0.
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I just got my Galaxy Nexus and was hoping that this would be something that ICS would resolve. My single biggest gripe with Android is lack of native PUSH email notifications for non-Gmail email accounts.
I shouldn't have to forward emails to my gmail account for this to work. That is not a solution, but merely a half-crack workaround.
I don't have the ability to use Google apps with my work email account.
I don't have an Exchange account, just an IMAP account. So it sounds like my only options are to get one of the shotty email clients in the app market or move to iPhone that supports this natively. I love android, this is just one of those things that's a priority for me. :-/
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You can't just add "push", the email service needs to support it.
"Push" email is just a descriptor, it's not an actual implementation of anything specific.
mfive said:
I don't have an Exchange account, just an IMAP account. So it sounds like my only options are to get one of the shotty email clients in the app market or move to iPhone that supports this natively. I love android, this is just one of those things that's a priority for me. :-/
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The iPhone doesn't support PUSH (aka IMAP IDLE) for IMAP email servers. I'm positive it doesn't do it for the native email (my wife has an iPhone), can't say if there's an email client app that supports, but I want to say no since iOS will kill any background running app like that.
Get K9 mail for Android, I used it a lot a couple years ago via IMAP (before switching to Gmail full time), worked great for instant notifications.
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You can't just add "push", the email service needs to support it.
"Push" email is just a descriptor, it's not an actual implementation of anything specific.
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the email must support push email (IMAP idle) but the client must support that too.
my own server supports IMAP idle, I use the push service on every phone but it does not work on my galaxy nexus.
I must admit that android is only a soap bubble, you can't say that android is an advanced OS when it lacks the basic feature of feature phones.
I could've sworn I had a stock Email app on my Droid Charge at one point that was push. It was awesome. There has to be a stock or AOSP Email app apk out there somewhere that we can use.
Galaxy Sll email app has it...maybe someone can port it.
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Dear members,
I deleted my hotmail email and wants to create another but when I input my email and password ( and I am sure they are correct), I have this error message " can't connect to server" and I have strong internet connection, what do I do? Thanks.
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Are you trying to add it as a POP account or as an exchange account?
Alkali said:
Dear members,
I deleted my hotmail email and wants to create another but when I input my email and password ( and I am sure they are correct), I have this error message " can't connect to server" and I have strong internet connection, what do I do? Thanks.
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There's a known issue w/Hotmail sync if you're using corporate sync/active sync setup. MS changed the sync setup on their server and it broke sync on all kinds of phones...that might be what is affecting you.
This is one of the key threads on MS forum about it:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...-devices/e8a68843-02f9-4fe3-957b-233b21179fc5
Results can vary - it was working on some phones for some accounts, not on others. It started working again on my wife's Razr Maxx when she got her 4.0.4 update, it always worked fine on my GNex.
on ICS and JB, when i add a hotmail, it added as exchange. dont know why, but it automatic setup with it.
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Are you trying to add it as a POP account or as an exchange account?
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Well, from ACCOUNT SETUP> I input my email and password and hit on NEXT and after that > Could'nt open connection to server! tried hundred of times but no way!
Does that mean i cannot set HOTMAIL on my device? If so which Application can i use with which i can set HOTMAIL as my default e-mail for sending mails?
I have 3 setup on my phone...
Just add a corporate account and use your full email address as the Username and use m.hotmail.com as the server address
And how do i do that? I cannot seem to pass the stage for email and password input? Is it POP, IMAP or EXCHANGE? And i have never use any.Only used to setting simple email and thats all
Choose Exchange
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Choose Exchange
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Well, I have the solution when I upgraded
to 4.0.4. I can now set up the email. Thanks
Can't live a day without email, and since yesterday I can't create any email account with the Samsung stock email app through Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync. It keeps saying "Setup couldn't finish: Unable to connect to server". I have tried YMail, GMail, none works! I guess I am not the only one and it's a MS server problem?
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Can't live a day without email, and since yesterday I can't create any email account with the Samsung stock email app through Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync. It keeps saying "Setup couldn't finish: Unable to connect to server". I have tried YMail, GMail, none works! I guess I am not the only one and it's a MS server problem?
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Ok, what specific email service are you trying to setup (GMail, YMail, etc.).
What is the name of the server that you are trying to connect to? For example, the ActiveSync server for GMail is m.google.com.
Lets start with that and see where we go from there.
-Mike
Did u try add accont from "settings -> add account -> email" atleast for me phone automatically converted it to exchance acticesync account. (Windows Live account)
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Ok, what specific email service are you trying to setup (GMail, YMail, etc.).
What is the name of the server that you are trying to connect to? For example, the ActiveSync server for GMail is m.google.com.
Lets start with that and see where we go from there.
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GMail. That's how it worked since the day I got the phone, but now it isn't working. It's obviously a different Note 2 (the old one was having a problem, so service center provided me a new one), but that shouldn't be any reason.
I just type my username, then password, select Manual setup, tap on MS Exchange ActiveSync, then I tap on next and that error pops up! The server address is m.google.com like you said. But I've tried with different address like m.gmail.com, no luck!
Now I had a Nandroid backup from my old Note 2, which I was restoring some minutes back with Nandroid Manager, and when I restored the email and Exchange service the old email data is back, as Exchange ActiveSync.
This is the most weird thing I've seen since a long time!
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Did u try add accont from "settings -> add account -> email" atleast for me phone automatically converted it to exchance acticesync account. (Windows Live account)
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Tried that mate. No better.
Now could any one of you test it for me? I'm strongly recommending to NOT delete the account you're already having with ActiveSync, just try with another account and see, please? I've GMail and YMail accounts, so can't say about any other account.
Thanks in advance.
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GMail. That's how it worked since the day I got the phone, but now it isn't working. It's obviously a different Note 2 (the old one was having a problem, so service center provided me a new one), but that shouldn't be any reason.
I just type my username, then password, select Manual setup, tap on MS Exchange ActiveSync, then I tap on next and that error pops up! The server address is m.google.com like you said. But I've tried with different address like m.gmail.com, no luck!
Now I had a Nandroid backup from my old Note 2, which I was restoring some minutes back with Nandroid Manager, and when I restored the email and Exchange service the old email data is back, as Exchange ActiveSync.
This is the most weird thing I've seen since a long time!
Tried that mate. No better.
Now could any one of you test it for me? I'm strongly recommending to NOT delete the account you're already having with ActiveSync, just try with another account and see, please? I've GMail and YMail accounts, so can't say about any other account.
Thanks in advance.
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What are you entering for domain?
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What are you entering for domain?
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It's the default, I'm not changing anything.
The domain by default is, \[email protected]
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For GMail, the domain should be google.
http://email.about.com/od/accessinggmail/f/Gmail_Exchange_ActiveSync_Settings.htm
Good luck,
Mike
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For GMail, the domain should be google.
http://email.about.com/od/accessinggmail/f/Gmail_Exchange_ActiveSync_Settings.htm
Good luck,
Mike
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I've already tried that, no difference! Actually I've tried a lot of things showed up by Googling, none if them is working!
I don't know, could this be this Unique device identifier or something, which is messing something?
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AFAIK Google have dropped support for active sync for Gmail on new device since last week Jan 13.
(Just replied pm too)
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Yep read at least 6-7 articles about it. What a stupidity by Google! http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/14/...-sync-exchange-support-for-gmail-calendar-and
Anyway, that was it for me, created a Hotmail account and a Live account as well (love the name, Live, lol) and Exchange ActiveSync created the account easy.
Now I guess there is no way I can have all my messages transferred to the Hotmail account from the Gmail account right, and have the new emails in Hotmail instead of Gmail? I have to manually edit the email id everywhere from Gmail to Hotmail or is there any trick?
Yes, This is good way and I am also doing same since long. I have yahoo account and forwarding Gmail to yahoo always.
I don't think you need to change ID everywhere, just use both ID atleast for now, may be there will be some solution for Gmail comes.
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