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Should I unroot before taking my phone in for a screen replacement?

I went by the print store today to ask about getting my screen replaced. the guy I talked with said that for a hardware fix it wouldn't matter if I were rooted.
But they couldn't put my phone on any kind of blacklist or anything could they? I'd rather not waste the time unrooting if I don't have to.
Thanks
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Sprint will work on rooted phones for hardware issues. It's internal policy for them now as of recently. I confirmed this with my local Sprint repair store.

They may work on them, but they may also take note of the fact that you're rooted in case you have software problems. Takes 10 min, just make a backup before you do, so when you root again, easy to get back to where you were.

Do not unroot your phone to take to sprint. Ive had 2 screen rep;acements and many other replacements rooted. And that was before the alleged new policy regarding root. Used to be, they would say (after fixing), 'yeah, as long as you atleast try to make it look stock, thats all good'.
But apparently/allegedly now, even obvious root is ok. I'd still flash a stock theme
Why are there so many threads about this? people no searchy?

thanks for the info.
scottspa74 said:
Why are there so many threads about this? people no searchy?
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sorry about that search on the xda app is almost unbearable...

I would unroot it. Better safe than sorry.
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I took my Evo's for screen repairs, speaker phone repair and battery issues many times, all while having MIUI flashed. No one ever said anything to me.
Sprint people didn't even know what it was. I just said "oh I downloaded a new theme."

I thought rooting was not illegal anymore. Maybe it depends on the technician you speak with. Some are cool, some are not. I say unroot just to be safe. Thank god for easy rooting practices...

screen fix and root
I think it all depends on what store you are taking it into, i took my rooted phone in and had the screen replaced no issues,

Will Verizon know?

If i dont accept the up coming ota? Im going to start working for them soon, dont wanna look bad.
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watt9493 said:
If i dont accept the up coming ota? Im going to start working for them soon, dont wanna look bad.
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They'll know if your phone accepted the OTA or not. I seem to recall reading that VZW would "assume" that if your phone didn't receive the OTA that you'd be rooted, or something to that effect.

RMarkwald said:
They'll know if your phone accepted the OTA or not. I seem to recall reading that VZW would "assume" that if your phone didn't receive the OTA that you'd be rooted, or something to that effect.
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Fvck.
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Honestly I wouldn't worry about it. Rooting just voids your warranty, so if they knew that when you try to get a warranty replacement, they may charge you full price. That's assuming they even check it. So if you're rooted and not making a warranty claim, the phone is yours, VZW will still take your money happily.
Whenever I've been in VZW stores, the reps even have theirs rooted. So I wouldn't worry about it too much bro!

Just act like nothing is wrong and keep it rooted. Seriously

Im going to. Eff them
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Im going to. Eff them
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That's the spirit

Like the people that work at VZW don't have rooted phones? LOL I think they do...

RMarkwald said:
They'll know if your phone accepted the OTA or not. I seem to recall reading that VZW would "assume" that if your phone didn't receive the OTA that you'd be rooted, or something to that effect.
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not trolling but. i dont see how they can see if you updated or not. i mean everything on the phone is google and not VZW so i dont see how they would know. if they did know then everyone with a root phone couldn't get a replacement and i was one of them. first phone i got the speaker went out in 3 weeks. i RUU to stock and took it in and they gave me another one that day.
if you do have the link to what you read i would like to see it. (again not being a d!ck. im just wondering.

OTA, you mean the new gingerbread we never received we are finally getting?
On the HTC incredbile right?
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The real question is why would Verizon care if you took the update or not?

synisterwolf said:
not trolling but. i dont see how they can see if you updated or not. i mean everything on the phone is google and not VZW so i dont see how they would know. if they did know then everyone with a root phone couldn't get a replacement and i was one of them. first phone i got the speaker went out in 3 weeks. i RUU to stock and took it in and they gave me another one that day.
if you do have the link to what you read i would like to see it. (again not being a d!ck. im just wondering.
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I don't have a link so I'm not exactly sure, but I saw something about how some VZW tech support could see the build # (and maybe some other things you'd see in the "about phone" menu) of the device you were talking to them on. So from there, it could be assumed you were rooted if not running a stock rom.
Again, assuming they could extrapolate that information in that specific circumstance, I don't know why they would care (aside from software-related warranty issues). Most reps I've talked to in a VZ store that had some measure of expertise in their field has a rooted phone.

I believe you have nothing to be concerned about with working for them and having a rooted phone I know a few people who work for Big Red, but they don't have their phone rooted because they just don't care for it (simple minded lol).
They will entice you to upgrade to the latest greatest new phone with your employee discount lol. But assuming you're going to stick with what you have, just don't go volunteering information unless they ask since it's no of their business.
But do be prepared to sign a buttload of nondisclosure papers that you won't share any inside information (but should hehehe).

wildstang83 said:
Like the people that work at VZW don't have rooted phones? LOL I think they do...
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they do, one of them pulled me out of the main floor once when i asked him about the gb update, then recommended this site
but, as far as the OTA gingerbread. don't take it, the risks outweigh the benefits.
risks
. No root for a while (months, or a year)
. Bloatware, that you can't take off, see risk #1
. no roms for a while either
to be honest, ive been running GB for a month now via gingersense, and i like it, yeah the 720p is choppy, yeah, i have other stuff.
but, i'm mainly concerned about the new radio and new kernal
so, take others advice, and just wait.

Will do. And anything i hear, ill post in general. The store im going to work at is pretty chill. I rooted and s-offed my first inc, broke mms (somehow) and they exchanged itbeven looking at the bootloader.
Your phone has now contracted phone AIDS. Shoulda used protection while rooting. LD

So... Sprint rooted my phone...

I have had both Camera and GPS issues since the day I bought my E4GT. My Camera will randomly give me "Recording Failed" when I try to take photos. Changing Camera settings was also a good way of reproducing "Recording Failed" And my GPS simply just doesn't lock, and if it does it is unbelievably inaccurate.
So, I took my phone in several months back, of course all they did was flash it to stock, I came back in an hour and they claimed it was fixed. Within 24 hours I was still having the same Camera issue, and GPS wasn't improved.
I have dealt with this issue up until today and simply ignored it, used my girlfriends GPS etc. Keep in mind that both these issues exist on stock EK02, EL30, and any custom ROM I install, and GPS status or other GPS related apps don't help either.
So, after flashing to EK02, using a USB Jig to reset my download count and then doing the OTA to EL30, the problem persisted. I brought it to the Sprint store, came back an hour and a half later, and they claimed it was fixed. I instantly starting taking photos in the store, after 2 photographs my phone actually just restarted itself. Once it restarted, I tried taking several more photographs and received my usual "Recording Failed" message. At this point the tech takes the phone back, fiddles around on his computer and tells me they will just have to order a new one.
Great news! Glad I'm getting a brand new E4GT. The real kicker... I got back in my car, drove to work and then I noticed something funny, I have the superuser app installed. I installed Titanium backup to confirm I had root, and I did. The Sprint tech seems to have rooted my phone, most likely in attempt to try a few 3rd party fixes.
Has anyone had a similar experience? Doesn't rooting technically void my warranty... Or is it only flashing non-official ROMs? I know I'm still ok on my warranty because they already confirmed they are shipping a phone to the store for me to pick up. I was just shocked to have Sprint root my phone.

Fendulon said:
I have had both Camera and GPS issues since the day I bought my E4GT. My Camera will randomly give me "Recording Failed" when I try to take photos. Changing Camera settings was also a good way of reproducing "Recording Failed" And my GPS simply just doesn't lock, and if it does it is unbelievably inaccurate.
So, I took my phone in several months back, of course all they did was flash it to stock, I came back in an hour and they claimed it was fixed. Within 24 hours I was still having the same Camera issue, and GPS wasn't improved.
I have dealt with this issue up until today and simply ignored it, used my girlfriends GPS etc. Keep in mind that both these issues exist on stock EK02, EL30, and any custom ROM I install, and GPS status or other GPS related apps don't help either.
So, after flashing to EK02, using a USB Jig to reset my download count and then doing the OTA to EL30, the problem persisted. I brought it to the Sprint store, came back an hour and a half later, and they claimed it was fixed. I instantly starting taking photos in the store, after 2 photographs my phone actually just restarted itself. Once it restarted, I tried taking several more photographs and received my usual "Recording Failed" message. At this point the tech takes the phone back, fiddles around on his computer and tells me they will just have to order a new one.
Great news! Glad I'm getting a brand new E4GT. The real kicker... I got back in my car, drove to work and then I noticed something funny, I have the superuser app installed. I installed Titanium backup to confirm I had root, and I did. The Sprint tech seems to have rooted my phone, most likely in attempt to try a few 3rd party fixes.
Has anyone had a similar experience? Doesn't rooting technically void my warranty... Or is it only flashing non-official ROMs? I know I'm still ok on my warranty because they already confirmed they are shipping a phone to the store for me to pick up. I was just shocked to have Sprint root my phone.
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lol the only thing that happened to me like that was:
i brought my evo 3d in so they could check out the power button... (it was pushed down and wouldnt turn on) the phone had cm7 on it... and the tech showed me his OG evo with cm7 on it with the same theme on it (cm7 red remix)
i couldnt restore it back to a stock RUU because of the power button...but he got a replacement for me even when he got it turned on and seen cm7 on it

I've noticed that most techs don't care if your phone is rooted or not. In fact, I used to go down to the Sprint store to look at new accessories, and I would show off that mine was rooted and running CM. I had a couple of the people working there have me root their phone for them.
It would surprise me at all if the tech rooted your phone. Probably jumped on XDA to see if anyone else had solved the problem yet too.

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Probably jumped on XDA to see if anyone else had solved the problem yet too.
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LOL i bet he did... anyone that has any problems with their phones i direct them here... im waiting for the day that the techs in the sprint store ask me "have you checked xda to see if they have any resolution to this problem"
because ive had customer service reps/android tech department (on the phone) tell me to check xda or android community..

Out of curiosity, when recording video were you recording to internal memory or a microSD card? And if a microSD card, what Class? I got that error all the time with my Class 2 16GB, but when I upgraded to my 32GB Class 4 I have no trouble. Apparently the write speed wasn't high enough for the video stream.

Weird. I've got problems where my GPS sometimes won't lock.... but I reboot and it seems to work for another day or whatever.

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Out of curiosity, when recording video were you recording to internal memory or a microSD card? And if a microSD card, what Class? I got that error all the time with my Class 2 16GB, but when I upgraded to my 32GB Class 4 I have no trouble. Apparently the write speed wasn't high enough for the video stream.
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I actually never recorded video really. This was an issue with simple picture taking at any resolution. I could save to internal or external storage and receive this error. I currently have a class 8 16gb that I use that hasn't given me issues that I know of.
As for the GPS, it was a longstanding and ongoing issue with my phone. No amount of reboots, reflashes or GPS fixes would remedy it. I've tried at least a half dozen roms, plus every OTA and sprint leak. I'm just glad to be getting a new phone.
Also, I've never dropped this phone once. It is literally in pristine condition, you could probably put it in a box and nobody would know that it was used.

yea crazy.. obviously the sprint rep thought he knew what he was doing but in the end, you probably know more than he does .. then again, anybody can read lol. i would have pointed it out in the store and been like hey buddy, whats this? lol then watched him try to explain himself..

elliwigy said:
yea crazy.. obviously the sprint rep thought he knew what he was doing but in the end, you probably know more than he does .. then again, anybody can read lol. i would have pointed it out in the store and been like hey buddy, whats this? lol then watched him try to explain himself..
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Lol that would have been a fun one to watch him try to talk his way out of. At least you had a competent sprint guy, my stores in reno seem to never have people who know anything, not even the selling points of a phone in their store!
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Haha I would have loved to ask in store, but unfortunately I didn't notice this for about a half hour when I was at work.
I'll definitely be asking them about it when I go to pick up my replacement phone. I still have my "Sprint Rooted and certified" phone in my hands haha.

Lol.
Once again, contrary to popular belief, rooting does not void your protection plan with us, nor does it prevent us from doing a paid repair (no TEP). Only the iPhone holds the distinction of having it's protection plan voided by software modification, as per Apple.
Now, are we allowed by corporate rules to root your phone as a method of repair? No, of course not. But we're also supposed to only use software that's provided to us, and a lot of times that just isn't enough.
Of course, there are special cases; if somebody carelessly lost their wimax keys when trying to get s-off, i wouldn't replace the phone for two reasons: it's nonessential to telephony functions (meaning youre not stuck if you need to call 911), and it's technically DBR (damaged beyond economical repair), because our warehouse wont be able to get them back, and the board would end up being scrapped.
To that end, hard bricked phones could be rejected due to DBR, but i have no way of telling if it happened due to flashing the phone, now do I?
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squshy 7 said:
Lol.
Once again, contrary to popular belief, rooting does not void your protection plan with us, nor does it prevent us from doing a paid repair (no TEP). Only the iPhone holds the distinction of having it's protection plan voided by software modification, as per Apple.
Now, are we allowed by corporate rules to root your phone as a method of repair? No, of course not. But we're also supposed to only use software that's provided to us, and a lot of times that just isn't enough.
Of course, there are special cases; if somebody carelessly lost their wimax keys when trying to get s-off, i wouldn't replace the phone for two reasons: it's nonessential to telephony functions (meaning youre not stuck if you need to call 911), and it's technically DBR (damaged beyond economical repair), because our warehouse wont be able to get them back, and the board would end up being scrapped.
To that end, hard bricked phones could be rejected due to DBR, but i have no way of telling if it happened due to flashing the phone, now do I?
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Well thank you very much for this info. Its nice to know the ins and outs of my warranty service. May even take a look into the the terms of service and such for it. It'll nice to have a shiny new phone though for sure.
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Bear gri11z said:
because ive had customer service reps/android tech department (on the phone) tell me to check xda or android community..
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I have the Viewsonic G-tablet and if you contact viewsonic customer support, they always point you to XDA fourms. lol. I wish i could get paid just telling people to check XDA

Just wanted to second this. At this time only jailbroken iPhones have their warranty/protection voided.
You should have no problem getting help even if your phone is rooted, though we should not be the ones doing it for you lol
squshy 7 said:
Lol.
Once again, contrary to popular belief, rooting does not void your protection plan with us, nor does it prevent us from doing a paid repair (no TEP). Only the iPhone holds the distinction of having it's protection plan voided by software modification, as per Apple.
Now, are we allowed by corporate rules to root your phone as a method of repair? No, of course not. But we're also supposed to only use software that's provided to us, and a lot of times that just isn't enough.
Of course, there are special cases; if somebody carelessly lost their wimax keys when trying to get s-off, i wouldn't replace the phone for two reasons: it's nonessential to telephony functions (meaning youre not stuck if you need to call 911), and it's technically DBR (damaged beyond economical repair), because our warehouse wont be able to get them back, and the board would end up being scrapped.
To that end, hard bricked phones could be rejected due to DBR, but i have no way of telling if it happened due to flashing the phone, now do I?
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Full Disclosure: I am a Sprint employee. Any opinions are my own and in no way endorsed by Sprint.
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When i went to go get my e4gt one of the salesmen was talking about his jailbroken iphone to someone he was selling an iphone to. I wasnt really paying attention since they were talking about iphones and i was downloading the xda app while they finished my paperwork.

You sure your method of returning to stock didn't preserve your root? It's possible.

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LOL i bet he did... anyone that has any problems with their phones i direct them here... im waiting for the day that the techs in the sprint store ask me "have you checked xda to see if they have any resolution to this problem"
because ive had customer service reps/android tech department (on the phone) tell me to check xda or android community..
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im a sales rep in a preferred retailer. but because of the time ive spent here, im also the unofficial lead technician in our store, and the last resort for our actual techs when they cant fix it themselves... and they went into training for their job..
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Just wanted to second this. At this time only jailbroken iPhones have their warranty/protection voided.
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99% correct. if an android has a rom flashed, its warranty is void. but we can still repair/replace them with TEP, and paid repairs are fine too. its the unlocking of the bootloader that is looked at, not the actual rooting
see: htc evo3d (htcdev dot com), unlocking nexus s, flash/binary counter in E4GT

As much as I like to side with Sprint employees in regards to TEP & rooting, it tends to be more of a personal Sprint employee decision as opposed to actual TEP policy.
After reading over the TOS in regards to TEP, there are some things written in there that could potentially be used against you should rooting be considered the cause of your problem:
"Sprint is not liable for the websites you visit or anything you download or cause to be downloaded to your device. Damage related to websites visited or downloads to your device may not be covered by Sprint's Service and Repair policy or your device insurance policy."
Personally, it's a chance one takes & it depends on who you deal with on any given day should you run into any trouble. There just seems to be alot if what if's in how it's written, how it's defined & how a Sprint rep would handle the situation.

You are right in that it may change but their are policies and procedures in place that dictate how we do our job. We have clear direction to help Android customers who have rooted devices. The other poster who corrected me is right in the fact that your manufacturer warranty is likely voided from rooting but Sprint will still make an attempt to help you with paid repair or TEP.
We also have clear direction that a jailbroken iPhone loses it's protection.
That is in the ToS so you cannot hold Sprint liable if you break your phone, if you download a virus/malware, install custom apps/software etc.
Yes you can break your phone beyond a point that can be fixed but that doesn't mean that we won't try to help you. Sprint doesn't get anything out of a customer who cancels because their rooted phone breaks and can't be fixed.
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As much as I like to side with Sprint employees in regards to TEP & rooting, it tends to be more of a personal Sprint employee decision as opposed to actual TEP policy.
After reading over the TOS in regards to TEP, there are some things written in there that could potentially be used against you should rooting be considered the cause of your problem:
"Sprint is not liable for the websites you visit or anything you download or cause to be downloaded to your device. Damage related to websites visited or downloads to your device may not be covered by Sprint's Service and Repair policy or your device insurance policy."
Personally, it's a chance one takes & it depends on who you deal with on any given day should you run into any trouble. There just seems to be alot if what if's in how it's written, how it's defined & how a Sprint rep would handle the situation.
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Overstew said:
You sure your method of returning to stock didn't preserve your root? It's possible.
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I can honestly say I am absolutely certain I didn't have root when I handed them my phone to be repaired.
I ODINed EK02, which removed my root, then I used a USB Jig, which reset my download count, and then I booted up my phone and was informed there was an update, and so I did the OTA to EL29. At this point I actually tried to install Titanium for ****s and giggles, only to be told I didn't meet the requirements to use the app, root, so I uninstalled it.

Replacing Phone (With KNOX_WARRANTY)

Alright, so one of my buddies that works at T-Mobile, he Claims that as long as your phone is on Stock (Or looks like Stock) you should be able to turn your phone in for a Replacement or towards a different phone with Jump.
Obviously the phone I will be attempting to trade in has its Knox_Warranty flag at 0x1
I am going to try this tomorrow with one of my S4's that I unrooted today and back to 4.3 Stock. Anyone that has been curious on Replacement or upgrading with Jump etc, I should find out tomorrow hopefully. Wish me luck.
I will post results when I get back!

I wouldn't worry. I did a warranty exchange cause the back camera stopped working. All I did was Odin back to stock.
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Android_Monsters said:
I wouldn't worry. I did a warranty exchange cause the back camera stopped working. All I did was Odin back to stock.
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Since you put it that way, it should be a walk in the park then

Do post your result, but I think it should be ok
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It was accepted! Got me a iPhone. Never had one so im gonna try one out. So GS4 and iPhone for me lol

Thought so, but now I'll feel more confident when I go trade mine in
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I have a friend who works at a store, I asked him if they are told to look for anything (customization, etc) or even check the bootloader.
He said the only thing they are told to look for is water damage, other than that they don't care. All they do when you Jump is send the phone back and i'm assuming TM just erases everything and resets the device before sending it out as a refurb one.
Just upgraded my phone, no problems, you're good to go

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I have a friend who works at a store, I asked him if they are told to look for anything (customization, etc) or even check the bootloader.
He said the only thing they are told to look for is water damage, other than that they don't care. All they do when you Jump is send the phone back and i'm assuming TM just erases everything and resets the device before sending it out as a refurb one.
Just upgraded my phone, no problems, you're good to go
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Are you saying, I could return my phone on GE for my jump upgrade and it will be accepted? [emoji33][emoji53]
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I'm actually glad to hear this. I may go and flash the latest bootloader so I can have everything up to date.
Just to make sure, if knox IS tripped, it does not effect the status of your warranty through T-Mobile? Meaning if something were to go wrong with my phone I won't have any issues getting a warrant replacement?
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Are you saying, I could return my phone on GE for my jump upgrade and it will be accepted? [emoji33][emoji53]
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What do you mean return phone on GE?
elesbb said:
I'm actually glad to hear this. I may go and flash the latest bootloader so I can have everything up to date.
Just to make sure, if knox IS tripped, it does not effect the status of your warranty through T-Mobile? Meaning if something were to go wrong with my phone I won't have any issues getting a warrant replacement?
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I mean I don't know the specifics, i'm sure if you actually asked T-Mobile if it voids the warranty they would say yes, all i'm saying is if you take the phone to use the Jump program they don't even look at the bootloader, most of those guys don't even know how to get into Download Mode let alone check it.
I would say No I don't think you would have a problem, but you never know, the decision is up to you.

TripFlex said:
I mean I don't know the specifics, i'm sure if you actually asked T-Mobile if it voids the warranty they would say yes, all i'm saying is if you take the phone to use the Jump program they don't even look at the bootloader, most of those guys don't even know how to get into Download Mode let alone check it.
I would say No I don't think you would have a problem, but you never know, the decision is up to you.
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To confirm what you said earlier, what T Mobile is doing is taking your used phone and doing a complete factory refurb on it. That means a total wipe of the entire memory and a clean now install, as well as replacing worn out body panels like a cracked glass or scratched up plastic peices, etc.
Doing this the way a factory refurb does it that will wipe out Knox and flash counters and custom ROMs and all that jazz. They have equipment that will do what Odin can't. So they don't care.
If you do get a T Mobile store rep who does check the bootloader and makes a big deal out of the Knox flag, just take your phone to another T Mobile store. Or come back to that one the next day and talk to someone else. 9 out of 10 store clerks are not phone nerds like us. They are people with minimal phone training just working a retail sales job. If you get get the 1 phone nerd, another store will have 4 guys who don't even know what a bootloader is.
Once T Mobile takes the phone from you and processes the exchange, they cannot come back later and claim that it doesn't qualify. If they did you can just say you have no idea what they are talking about and their rep inspected prior to the exchange so something must have happened after it left your possession.

elesbb said:
I'm actually glad to hear this. I may go and flash the latest bootloader so I can have everything up to date.
Just to make sure, if knox IS tripped, it does not effect the status of your warranty through T-Mobile? Meaning if something were to go wrong with my phone I won't have any issues getting a warrant replacement?
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Probably won't. You should be able to still send it in for a replacement and get a different model back.
@LoopDoGG79 - Yup I got a different phone via jump so you should be good to go

TripFlex said:
What do you mean return phone on GE?
I mean I don't know the specifics, i'm sure if you actually asked T-Mobile if it voids the warranty they would say yes, all i'm saying is if you take the phone to use the Jump program they don't even look at the bootloader, most of those guys don't even know how to get into Download Mode let alone check it.
I would say No I don't think you would have a problem, but you never know, the decision is up to you.
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Thanks. I asked in here because two T-Mobile Reps told me if the warranty is void on the phone, then they cannot honor the jump program. And seeing as they are accepting knox tripped devices for the jump program, it seems like knox does not void your warranty.. which makes me like Samsung even more (and T-Mobile)
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Tmobile Store Checks For Root?

Hey guys, so I just went to a tmobile store to trade my phone in on the Jump Program and the associate said I'll be right back I have to scan your ID and hook your phone up to my computer for a second. He returned a moment later saying that my phone was not eligible to trade in because his computer said my phone had been rooted or jail broken. He asked if I had rooted it and I lied and said no. Now I didn't remove the root or TWRP from my phone because I never ever had them check all I did was restore my TWRP backup I took of stock when I first rooted my device. I am baffeled. I had no clue they were even doing this now. Anyone have any experience with this? I am going home to completely unroot and then go to a different store and try again. Are the carriers getting this smart now? I searched but hadn't found any similar experiences
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Interesting. Was your Knox tripped as well?

The phone rooted or not shows with "MyTmobile" app under "device management". You will see a warning about the device is no longer secure. So yes, Tmobile knows. TWRP tripped the Knox warranty to 0x1. So unless you could find some unexpirienced csr even the warranty is voided.
Some say it doesn't matter but it does now for Tmobile.

jondoe27 said:
The phone rooted or not shows with "MyTmobile" app under "device management". You will see a warning about the device is no longer secure. So yes, Tmobile knows. TWRP tripped the Knox warranty to 0x1. So unless you could find some unexpirienced csr even the warranty is voided.
Some say it doesn't matter but it does now for Tmobile.
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Yes they do have system apps that spy on device status and some other thing but that's another story. Its not just their apps but the system apps located in the app manager under all apps. You should notice that there are 3 apps(system that will auto start even if force closed and can not be disabled/removed unless super user access. Also log you GPS coordinates and more. Should notice a jump in CPU and mabile data usuage upon unlock/lock and power on/off/reboot. Logging with/out data enabled. And funniest is ota patches for tether exploits or data hack/mods but still not chance of getting a simple android update ota lmao. As for warranty least jump/replacement so far hasent effected it on me end probably because how much their making on these phones now since the manufacturers been cut out lol. Could change I'd flash the ota before either jumping or replacements is possible.
Forced me to root.

Right, of course, TWRP tripped Knox. So they're checking, be advised. Root only without tripping and don't run a custom recovery.

rawdaddymagraden said:
Hey guys, so I just went to a tmobile store to trade my phone in on the Jump Program and the associate said I'll be right back I have to scan your ID and hook your phone up to my computer for a second. He returned a moment later saying that my phone was not eligible to trade in because his computer said my phone had been rooted or jail broken. He asked if I had rooted it and I lied and said no. Now I didn't remove the root or TWRP from my phone because I never ever had them check all I did was restore my TWRP backup I took of stock when I first rooted my device. I am baffeled. I had no clue they were even doing this now. Anyone have any experience with this? I am going home to completely unroot and then go to a different store and try again. Are the carriers getting this smart now? I searched but hadn't found any similar experiences
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Was able to replace my note other day but had to install Ota and stock recovery. Side note I also downgraded back to Ota kk from lp no issues. Least this time. Set up was Ota this time. But on note 3 had custom rom lp but had hidden su binary temp, and hid su and other apps from being seen by Android via search bar and install devices. Oh and never had installed/updated or enabled any tmobile Knox or lookout apps. Device status stayed official offlinedevice) and online under device status. Even with xposed installed(status fix) no issues. But again have to hide stuff and never allow their Spyware aka device manager(the main issue) lookout kies and knox. Can try and see if u downgrading from lp to fix/reset knox. Since then system updated and noticed harder to keep them from spying.
Ps never do the device diagnostics. Smh data mining with a pinch of Spyware lol. Still track your things when you opt out but least your have a legal way to sue if we get chance. Opting out don't mean crap sadly. Thought Google put an end to bloat ware and mucking up android after they released lollipop. But ig we still can dream for that day
Ps Ps twrp was issue for knox being tripped people lol is when you root device and/or install rom/recovery. Thank Sammy for charging 600 or 800 then voiding warranty when you do decide to root device(I did simply to fix stuff broken in lp and the ton of cap Sammy messed up or deleted)

jondoe27 said:
The phone rooted or not shows with "MyTmobile" app under "device management". You will see a warning about the device is no longer secure. So yes, Tmobile knows. TWRP tripped the Knox warranty to 0x1. So unless you could find some unexpirienced csr even the warranty is voided.
Some say it doesn't matter but it does now for Tmobile.
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Yes, Knox was tripped but that wasn't the issue. I ended up calling my friend who works in a T-Mobile store and explained the issue to him. He said " yeah we have a computer in the back that we can hook your phone up to and check if your rooted or jail broken but I have never heard of anyone actually using it! He said to remove root and custom recovery and go to his store. He said they won't check at my store but just do it to be safe. So I went home and odin flashed back to stock and went to his store. His store did it in 10 minutes no problem. They didn't even take it into the back like they did at the other store.
Lesson is that it depends on what store you go to. They have the capability to check but if they do or not depends on the store. Also the guy at the original store said that his machine would know if it was rooted even if it was undone. Don't know if this is true or he was bluffing lol. Just wanted to share my experience with the community.
ytj87 said:
Interesting. Was your Knox tripped as well?
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rawdaddymagraden said:
Hey guys, so I just went to a tmobile store to trade my phone in on the Jump Program and the associate said I'll be right back I have to scan your ID and hook your phone up to my computer for a second. He returned a moment later saying that my phone was not eligible to trade in because his computer said my phone had been rooted or jail broken. He asked if I had rooted it and I lied and said no. Now I didn't remove the root or TWRP from my phone because I never ever had them check all I did was restore my TWRP backup I took of stock when I first rooted my device. I am baffeled. I had no clue they were even doing this now. Anyone have any experience with this? I am going home to completely unroot and then go to a different store and try again. Are the carriers getting this smart now? I searched but hadn't found any similar experiences
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Umm, first things first, never let anyone take your cellphone out of your sight to "check" it. I don't care if you have nothing to hide on that device, that is not proper procedure for any cell phone store. That dude was most likely looking for nudes on your phone while "in the back", and if there were any, you can be sure they're now in his possession. Not to mention he probably read through most of your texts, since that's where the nudes would most likely be.

MadJoe said:
Umm, first things first, never let anyone take your cellphone out of your sight to "check" it. I don't care if you have nothing to hide on that device, that is not proper procedure for any cell phone store. That dude was most likely looking for nudes on your phone while "in the back", and if there were any, you can be sure they're now in his possession. Not to mention he probably read through most of your texts, since that's where the nudes would most likely be.
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Thanks for the concern But I was going to tmobile with the intent of jumping to another phone so I had already factory reset to wipe all my data before going to the store. This is my regular practice.
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rawdaddymagraden said:
Thanks for the concern But I was going to tmobile with the intent of jumping to another phone so I had already factory reset to wipe all my data before going to the store. This is my regular practice.
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That's all well and fine, but it doesn't change the fact that they should never have taken the phone "in the back" out of your sight for any reason. The time I Jump'd a phone, they gave me my new device and a padded envelope to send in my trade-in, they never took my old device from my possession.

This is new, never happen to me, I just go and trade for new devices. I guess it's difference now.

zlinhz said:
This is new, never happen to me, I just go and trade for new devices. I guess it's difference now.
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