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Convince me to root!

So far I have zero complaints about this phone, there are some ui things I would like fixed, and I know can be fixed via rooting, but they just don't seem to be enough to push me over the edge. I have files downloaded and ready to go, but just can't seem to take the plunge. I thought I had my first los today, but the phone recovered as soon as I was back in signal(if it hadn't that would have done it).
So why should I root?
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You can always revert back to the stock kernel if you have an issue (or have them that frequently that you can't stand it). Anybody who thinks that once you root there is no way to go back is an idiot. "lol, I got no LOS then I rooted and even though I put stock kernel back its all [email protected] lol" not true.
I got 2 LOS in the first week stock...rooted...got a bit more than usual, but nothing crazy. Flashed stock kernel back, still rooted, didn't have another for a few weeks until I flashed a new kernel...flashed back, have had none...etc etc etc, YMMV, but, umm, I don't think you have anything to be afraid of. Just know what you are doing...don't just flash stuff and figure it out later. Know why you want something and how to 'put it back'...also having/making a USB jig would be a good idea, but not necessary.
You can get them for like $3 on amazon or build one with a microUSB cable and $1 worth of stuff from radioshack.
I don't know about you but I certainly didn't get this phone to NOT mod it.

I didn't get the phone to keep it stock, not really worried about los, it recovers after flying for 2 hours with no signal, rooting shouldn't make much difference., planning on using viperom and lostkernel.
Maybe tomorrow I will root
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flyboy1100 said:
I didn't get the phone to keep it stock, not really worried about los, it recovers after flying for 2 hours with no signal, rooting shouldn't make much difference., planning on using viperom and lostkernel.
Maybe tomorrow I will root
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The only thing I can tell you is that read the directions and understand ODIN for all of the ODIN stuff you do. That is one of the ways you can brick the fnck out of this phone...not paying attention in ODIN. Don't write a partition if you are not told to...and try to only use it to flash a kernel+CWM and flash everything else from CWM if and when possible.
If you aren't worried about LOS (and it is real and under the right circumstances it'll effect every phone...reboot...no big deal...if it is flash a pulled stock kernel) then go for it.
I haven't tried ViperROM on this phone yet, but, I can tell you from my time with the E3D that kid knows what he's doin'....I'm sure this ROM is no different and I've heard nothing but great things about the LoST kernel.

If you don't want to root, don't. Why would anyone want to pressure you?
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Tell us how it goes. You won't be disappointed.
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If U need convincing, you probably don't need it.
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Someone convince me to strangle my puppy. I love him and all and he is very well mannered but if you guys can talk me into strangling him, I will.

ravizzle said:
If U need convincing, you probably don't need it.
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I agree. You root cause u want to. If u want someone to convince u then maybe u shouldn't.
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I don't understand why some people view this almost like losing their virginity, trying a drug or robbing a liquor store. It's a very well understood technical process with very specific pros and cons that are also very well understood.

Yep. First android phone for me, and I bought it with the full intention of making it MY phone. After all, they are basically an additional limb for most people, no? (I'd say if you're registered with xda that is most likely the case! ) So you might as well go balls to the walls, right? If you're not into that kind of thing, then keep it stock! This phone is AMAZING just sitting at the home screen...it looks awesome! It is a great piece of technology, with plenty of great features and capability, and will serve you very well whether its rooted or not. Good luck with whatever you do!

buggerritt said:
If you don't want to root, don't. Why would anyone want to pressure you?
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Not looking for pressure. I will probably root it tomorrow or next week
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Because all the cool kids are doing it!
I broke down and did it yesterday when someone said viper ROM solved his app freezing due to using a ton of CPU usage bug. So far, so good.
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OP if you are on EG30 baseband could you extract the modem.bin file for us so we could test it?

I would just stay stock. Honestly, no offense to the developers, but there is just nothing substantial out there. If you want a couple of different themes, you could consider rooting, but other than that every ROM I have flashed provided close to nothing really.
I mean, what? Battery percentage mod? Removed CIQ? "Speed" tweaks? A reboot option?
Nothing made this phone faster or more efficient than stock touchWiz. There is no real difference except that people like to flash, so they would flash anything.
Sorry. That's just my take on it.
Wait for MIUI or CM.

I gotta say i miss root, I was finicky on rooting my epic 4g ad once I did, oooh lord I never looked back , of course I've stumbled into troubles but following directions, I got back on track and learned a few this gs along the way, now what's stopping me on rooting the ET4G is not having the actual way to go back to full true stock,like we were able to do on the epic 4g with using Odin, giving you a factory full stock phone , or any older device, since we don't have true stock roms and kernels, unless I'm wrong g of course and I've been missing out! If so direct me!

Kikoshi said:
I gotta say i miss root, I was finicky on rooting my epic 4g ad once I did, oooh lord I never looked back , of course I've stumbled into troubles but following directions, I got back on track and learned a few this gs along the way, now what's stopping me on rooting the ET4G is not having the actual way to go back to full true stock,like we were able to do on the epic 4g with using Odin, giving you a factory full stock phone , or any older device, since we don't have true stock roms and kernels, unless I'm wrong g of course and I've been missing out! If so direct me!
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We have stock roms to ODIN, but it's not factory stock. We have the factory stock kernel that was pulled from a stock phone. What we lack is an OEM RUU to make it 100%-in-every-way-stock.
That said, I have trashed my 4G and wifi somehow on multiple occasions due to rampant recklessness on my part. I just factory-wiped (apparently...I don't remember that part but I must have) and flashed the ODIN rooted stock (with stock kernel) and it fixes everything every time.

daneurysm said:
We have stock roms to ODIN, but it's not factory stock. We have the factory stock kernel that was pulled from a stock phone. What we lack is an OEM RUU to make it 100%-in-every-way-stock.
That said, I have trashed my 4G and wifi somehow on multiple occasions due to rampant recklessness on my part. I just factory-wiped (apparently...I don't remember that part but I must have) and flashed the ODIN rooted stock (with stock kernel) and it fixes everything every time.
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So then you recommend rooting this early?

i rooted so i could have wifi tethering and control over CPU speeds (via setcpu) in addition, there's some neat functionality that starburst ROM allows:
- better lock screens
- motion controlled silencing of phone
- battery % viewing
some people care about the speed tweaks (i haven't noticed any speed increase) and ciq (i don't really care for this), but there are several reasons to root. that being said, if you don't need the additional functionality of the phone, then preserve your phone's warranty!

Yea I'd say stay stock in terms of the ROM and kernel, but hell yea why not root? Right now I'm running stock kernel with CWM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305099) and the stock ROM with root and busybox (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282415) and I love it. I was running Midnight ROM but I went back to stock to see if that helped the LoS issues at all. If you're like me and really just want control over the hotspot feature and CPU underclocking (things of that nature) then def go stock rooted fo shoski.

Damnit GPS

I got my replacement phone and GPS was incredible. For a week locks up 3 meters! Happened constantly and always until today. GPS ****ted out on me while my brothers EVO locked instantaneously. I'm tired of this and idk what to do anymore as i need GPS :/

Yeah, i havent had gps since day one se with my old nexus s. Unfortunately i dont think ill ever get a samsung again. The screen just isnt worth it. Its frustrating to say the least. Good luck on getting yours to work though, none of the roms or "fixes" helped mine.
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exploited789 said:
Yeah, i havent had gps since day one se with my old nexus s. Unfortunately i dont think ill ever get a samsung again. The screen just isnt worth it. Its frustrating to say the least. Good luck on getting yours to work though, none of the roms or "fixes" helped mine.
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I really tried to love this phone but GPS is def a killer for me. Unfortunately never a Samsung device for me either. Especially learning that at launch it re-used parts from the OG Epic

Lol I got my new refurb pun intended .GPS is incredible but for how long.
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humdrum2009 said:
Lol I got my new refurb pun intended .GPS is incredible but for how long.
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Refurb surprised me with its GPS and how fast it locked. A week later and trash. locks in at 100meters...

what rom are u using? also have u adjusted the settings?

Stock rooted EL29, flashing to FB15 stock just to see now. Everything related to GPS is on in settings. Also tried with sensor aiding off. no luck

locoboi187 said:
Stock rooted EL29, flashing to FB15 stock just to see now. Everything related to GPS is on in settings. Also tried with sensor aiding off. no luck
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I had great GPS Locks until I rooted to ICS Roms...No problem with GB and any rom on GB...When I went to ICS modem after modem just random locks...Then I tried a GB Rom on ICS...this worked the best...I was usin an EL29 Modem...Today I did the One Click Odin back to stock installed CWM...Gotta lock ...went back to CWM...restored ICS Rom...gotta lock in seconds...without usin WiFi...just GPS Test...Now I'll try drivin with it ansd see what happens...Usually I get the first lock quick...then stop the car go wherever ...return to car fire up GPS...and no lock...the only way to get it back is to reboot...then I get it again in seconds...It drives ya crazy...But like I said when I was on GB...whether Stock or rooted...never had a problem with GPS...ILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS TODAY...

i've flashed between different modems and roms over the 5 months i've had my e4gt and gps locks within seconds for me. i'm on blazer4 EL29 right now, with the EG30 modem. it's always had the best signal and speed for me. screwed around with some FC modems last night, bootlooped my phone trying to downgrade from FC07 in CWM. had to use heimdall to flash EL29. s'all good tho.

My gps works great on stock and all el29 roms since i got the phone when it first came out

jordan2333 said:
My gps works great on stock and all el29 roms since i got the phone when it first came out
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Here are my before and after shots.
Before = 3meters lock
Now = 200meters lock

The GPS issue is definitely a bummer. I'm unrooted fully stock & have tried everything possible to get GPS to lock on. The only thing not making me from making a big stink about to Sprint is that I hardly have to use GPS. Still this issue definitely needs to be addressed & fixed.

EL TEJANO said:
The GPS issue is definitely a bummer. I'm unrooted fully stock & have tried everything possible to get GPS to lock on. The only thing not making me from making a big stink about to Sprint is that I hardly have to use GPS. Still this issue definitely needs to be addressed & fixed.
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I took mine into sprint today. this BS needs to stop.

locoboi187 said:
I took mine into sprint today. this BS needs to stop.
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Do any of the other carriers variations of this phone suffer the same problem?

Okay if you are running ICS it is a known issue to have constant GPS lock-ups. I can run GB EL29 flawlessly with perfect GPS, and then flashed any ICS leak and have the GPS lock up after using it a few times.

Korey_Nicholson said:
Okay if you are running ICS it is a known issue to have constant GPS lock-ups. I can run GB EL29 flawlessly with perfect GPS, and then flashed any ICS leak and have the GPS lock up after using it a few times.
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Same here...But Ill live with it for now...At least I can get it to work...

Im on EL29 and no GPS lock. Sprint said my GPS was working perfectly fine but i showed them right in front of their face that it is not. And the guy STILL kept saying its working. I'm like no man the GPS light is still blinking and it's accurate to 70 meters...They decided to send me a replacement but I said that's not gonna do any good. They're still sending me one though...God damnit -__-

yokken said:
i've flashed between different modems and roms over the 5 months i've had my e4gt and gps locks within seconds for me. i'm on blazer4 EL29 right now, with the EG30 modem. it's always had the best signal and speed for me. screwed around with some FC modems last night, bootlooped my phone trying to downgrade from FC07 in CWM. had to use heimdall to flash EL29. s'all good tho.
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Hah! I thought I was the only one rocking the EG30 modem. Still is the best for me, and never had LOS.

Did you have to pay for the replacement? If so how much and do you have insurance?
Having the same problem with the damn good and thinking of either sending it back to samsung or send to sprint store.
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no and i have TEP. insurance means i have to go to ausrion and pay 100$. if i didnt have TEP i would have to pay 35$

Cannot connect to network - - have tried all suggestions on forums

Hey everyone, I have a T-mobile T989 being used on the AWS 1700 Mobilicity network in Canada. I just purchased the phone from ebay and I am having difficulty getting any signal. I can connect for about 10 seconds and then it drops signal. I went to a location right by a mobi tower and I did get some signal there, so something is causing my phone to have a VERY weak signal.
It's not a Mobilicity signal issue as my other phones have perfect reception and signal with the same sim put into them. A lot of the time I can't even find the mobi network.
Things I've tried:
1) Installed all radios listed on the forum
2) Checked APN
3) Rooted and tried CM10 plus Jedi knight roms
4) tried a bunch of little random tidbits I've found over searching the forums for the past week (permissions, wipes etc)
5) WCDMA 1700 band selected
Nothing seems to work at all, could this be a hardware issue?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated, I've spent day and night over the past week attacking every software related tip I could find, but no luck so far so I'm starting to think hardware. The phone does not have warranty

I have a quick question; did you buy the phone already rooted? When you said you unrooted the phone, you mean you brought the phone to factory stock? Well anyway I have Jedi jelly also, what version are you running, I know 3 doesn't work. All Jedi for me at least won't give me signal for the first five minutes.
From my Bauer seed in minecraft

bravouno said:
I have a quick question; did you buy the phone already rooted? When you said you unrooted the phone, you mean you brought the phone to factory stock? Well anyway I have Jedi jelly also, what version are you running, I know 3 doesn't work. All Jedi for me at least won't give me signal for the first five minutes.
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Sorry that was a typing error, I meant I rooted the phone, the phone arrived to me in stock form and wasn't getting signal.
Jedi Mind Trick X3
CM10 4.0 stable
T-mobile 4.04
Those are the ROM's I tried, it's the same for all of them, I have tried to leave the phone overnight to see if it picks up signal eventually, but no luck so far with that either.
Thanks for your response.

did you try to odin to stock and go from there yet?

I'm sorry to say you might have to clam a false item description with eBay and PayPal to get your money back. It sounds like it stopped working before you received it.
From my Bauer seed in minecraft

gulbir101 said:
did you try to odin to stock and go from there yet?
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It arrived to me stock so I didn't try to odin back to stock. Would it have any effect flashing a stock phone with stock again?
I will try it out anyway since there's no harm in trying.
bravouno said:
I'm sorry to say you might have to clam a false item description with eBay and PayPal to get your money back. It sounds like it stopped working before you received it.
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I got signal in the public library parking lot and could access data aswell at super slow speeds. As soon as I move positions it drops signal.
Looks like my best bet is to just buy another one and avoid the headaches, my only concern is if someone knowingly sold a defective phone they will probably put up a fight when I try to return it.

does the same sim card work fine in other phones?
Can you get a new sim card and try that? If that doesn't work, then I don't know what to try next. Maybe install TWRP and run the superwipe script and flash a new radio and stock rom.

mike-y said:
does the same sim card work fine in other phones?
Can you get a new sim card and try that? If that doesn't work, then I don't know what to try next. Maybe install TWRP and run the superwipe script and flash a new radio and stock rom.
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Yup the simcard works totally fine in my blackberry. I tried my friends Rogers simcard in the T989 and it did not work either.
I am going to flash an older ROM onto the phone 2.x.x next to see how it goes and then back to stock if that doesn't work.
I caught 3G using UVLE1, but that only lasted about 30 seconds haha.

New to Sprint & L900. What's the 411?

Okay, so I've been on Tmobile since taking the dive into the wonderful world of Android. I had the S2 for a few months and thdn after becoming infatuated I went out and got me an S3. Recently I decided to move on to Sprint as the coverage I received at work was, well, nonexistent. So, I am completely new to CDMA and my beautiful new Note 2, and after reading through the forums I've discovered that I am bout back to square one. Well, maybe not entirely, but definitely been knocked back quite a bit. Which when considering I've only been involved in the xda community for about 9 months pretty much leaves me with the feeling that I'm stuck in Paris with no map and no translator. So, I was hoping I could reach out to the wise and informed members of xda and ask a broad, but simple, question. What do I need to know so I don't F up my new mistress? I'm not asking for a tutorial on rooting or flashing, nothing generic. Just some helpful specifics. I saw somewhere that they were talking about resetting Wallet before flashing a new ROM or else it may be blocked on the phone, I guess, forever. I'm also unfamiliar with the modems and the updates yall have gotten. Etc, etc. And as I said, not looking for another, what is the benefit of rooting, what is CWM and TWRP, can I get rid of all the darned Sprint apps baloney. I was just hoping to basically just kinda do a crash course intro, a CDMA and/or L900 101 kinda thing so to speak. Any info you can offer up would be greatly appreciated!
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Psychotic-Cerebellum said:
Okay, so I've been on Tmobile since taking the dive into the wonderful world of Android. I had the S2 for a few months and thdn after becoming infatuated I went out and got me an S3. Recently I decided to move on to Sprint as the coverage I received at work was, well, nonexistent. So, I am completely new to CDMA and my beautiful new Note 2, and after reading through the forums I've discovered that I am bout back to square one. Well, maybe not entirely, but definitely been knocked back quite a bit. Which when considering I've only been involved in the xda community for about 9 months pretty much leaves me with the feeling that I'm stuck in Paris with no map and no translator. So, I was hoping I could reach out to the wise and informed members of xda and ask a broad, but simple, question. What do I need to know so I don't F up my new mistress? I'm not asking for a tutorial on rooting or flashing, nothing generic. Just some helpful specifics. I saw somewhere that they were talking about resetting Wallet before flashing a new ROM or else it may be blocked on the phone, I guess, forever. I'm also unfamiliar with the modems and the updates yall have gotten. Etc, etc. And as I said, not looking for another, what is the benefit of rooting, what is CWM and TWRP, can I get rid of all the darned Sprint apps baloney. I was just hoping to basically just kinda do a crash course intro, a CDMA and/or L900 101 kinda thing so to speak. Any info you can offer up would be greatly appreciated!
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The worst part about the android community, unfortunately, is the fragmentation of general knowledge. The rooting process for a Nexus is probably identical to a Note 2 but the names of everything and builds and versions are all different, so you have to learn new 'words' like it is a new language. Fortunately you have a great community so you just have to learn how to search for things. Check the general section for android development I think there is a sticky that has a glossory of terms that explains all the acronyms.
I've had mine for 3 months but I would still welcome a crash course as well.

Well I prefer twrp as my custom recovery. Depending on your firmware version you can root without your phone ever going to download mode. I did. I used exynos abuse to get root. Then used mobile odin to flash a new rom. Always reset google wallet if you are reseting or flashing a new rom. Its tempermental. I would stay around only the sprint veraion for now. There is a way to use roms from other note 2 variants. I believe its in the dev section. Recovery is standalone. So swirching roms doesnt change it. You cannot talk on the phone and be on the internet at the same time unless you are using wifi or 4glte. If you like to draw or doodle there is sketchbook mobile which is awesome. Btw ma7 is the most current firmware that I know of. Also you can sideload the google wallet apk with no extra work to get it working. Goodluck and read alot.
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Psychotic-Cerebellum said:
what is the benefit of rooting
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You need root to do most modifications to your phone. I find that I need root for everyday stuff too (Titanium backup, Stweaks, Root app delete, etc).
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what is CWM and TWRP
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ClockWork Mod and TeamWin Recovery Project. Both have custom recovery pieces. I personally had some troubles with CWM on this phone and just use Odin now. I head TWRP works better than CWM on the Note 2, but Odin is the Tool Samsung suggests. Note that TWRP is MUCH more feature-rich than Odin. You might choose TWRP (or CWM) if you wanted to flash stuff from your SD card rather than from your PC- good for jumping around between kernels on the fly, for example.
Odin and the other two are all ways to flash stuff to your phone. That's all Odin does; the other two have lots more features.
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can I get rid of all the darned Sprint apps baloney
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Heck yeah! Simplest way is to root it and uninstall everything you don't like (Root App Delete from the Play Store seems to work pretty well; be sure you have a backup before you start blowing stuff away).
If you'd like to take it a step further, get a custom ROM that's been debloated; they normally require a full wipe, so bye bye sprint stuff. (Again, root it and back it up first!)

tpeef said:
You need root to do most modifications to your phone. I find that I need root for everyday stuff too (Titanium backup, Stweaks, Root app delete, etc).
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I appreciate you taking the time to go through all that, but I think maybe I didn't explain too well what I was trying to get. I wasn't asking for the general info, just things specific to CDMA and the L900. Like what was replying about. Not trying to be a jerk, but I know there's already a thousand threads on recoverys, ROMs, and rooting. Just didn't wanna do anything to my phone that would be irreversible (i.e. The resetting Google Wallet thing) or something that would cause signal issues (I read stuff on flashing certain ROMs on certain modems may create issues). Stuff like that. Like I said though appreciate the time you took, and any info you may have like that would certainly be appreciated.
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Oh I forgot. If you are on ljc expect to not go back to it if you update to ma7. For some reason lots of people have had trouble going back. It would cause slot of problems. Ma7 is just fine for me though. Great battery life and what not. I would say do the update. If you are going custom rom and are currently unrooted just do the ota. Or there is a firmware file around here to flash. I updated firmware before going to ma7. Although I was already rooted using exynos abuse. Ma7 eliminates the exploit. So be prepared to do that before going to ma7. If there is anything I am missing that you still need answers to or don't understand just ask. Its also a good habit to update profile and prl when switching roms or modems.
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patrao_n said:
...If you are going custom rom and are currently unrooted just do the ota. Or there is a firmware file around here to flash. I updated firmware before going to ma7. Although I was already rooted using exynos abuse. Ma7 eliminates the exploit. So be prepared to do that before going to ma7...
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I picked up something along those lines from reading around. It took all of 15 minutes out of the box before I got all rooted with new ROMs being flashed after playing around on stock just to get a baseline with all the ROM hoping that was sure to follow. Needless to say I didn't read up on anything modem wise before doing all this as I, admittedly, jumped the gun a little (I was just so excited to have a whole new community with new dev teams and all these foreign ROMs to explore). I used Max's trusty galaxynote2root site to root (love that guy). And used the GalaxyNote2RootSprint.zip to obtain root. Then, went straight into the original development section and immediately flashed the absolutely amazing Liquid Smooth. Now I should say, I did receive a message saying the was an update to the phone through sprint and I did proceed with the OTA while dling the zip and giving root instructions a quick once over. So, I'm guessing that took care of going to ma7 for me? Cuz I'm definitely using the ma7 modem. Now I did leave my beloved aosp as I did want to see if I would actually use all the S pen features that aosp sadly doesn't offer us. I jumped around from Whapasaurous to Venom Ice a d finally to Macks All Star, but I'm assuming that unless it's totally different from GSM that flashing a new ROM has no effect on your modem (but by all means correct me if I'm wrong). So just wanna make sure I went about things the right way here.
P. S. I did use the zip to revert the sd cards file format when returning from aosp so I didn't have to deal with all that "0" and "legacy" nonsense.
Thanks again!
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P.P.S. I don't really seem to have any data issues so I'm guessing all is well, but I am having an issue where my wifi keeps turning itself on, like multiple times a day. I thought at first I may have been accidently hitting it, but upon further review, nope, not me. Sounds more like a ROM issue to me though, but as it seems like it may pertain I figured I'd bring it up
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Psychotic-Cerebellum said:
Okay, so I've been on Tmobile since taking the dive into the wonderful world of Android. I had the S2 for a few months and thdn after becoming infatuated I went out and got me an S3. Recently I decided to move on to Sprint as the coverage I received at work was, well, nonexistent. So, I am completely new to CDMA and my beautiful new Note 2, and after reading through the forums I've discovered that I am bout back to square one. Well, maybe not entirely, but definitely been knocked back quite a bit. Which when considering I've only been involved in the xda community for about 9 months pretty much leaves me with the feeling that I'm stuck in Paris with no map and no translator. So, I was hoping I could reach out to the wise and informed members of xda and ask a broad, but simple, question. What do I need to know so I don't F up my new mistress? I'm not asking for a tutorial on rooting or flashing, nothing generic. Just some helpful specifics. I saw somewhere that they were talking about resetting Wallet before flashing a new ROM or else it may be blocked on the phone, I guess, forever. I'm also unfamiliar with the modems and the updates yall have gotten. Etc, etc. And as I said, not looking for another, what is the benefit of rooting, what is CWM and TWRP, can I get rid of all the darned Sprint apps baloney. I was just hoping to basically just kinda do a crash course intro, a CDMA and/or L900 101 kinda thing so to speak. Any info you can offer up would be greatly appreciated!
Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk 2
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I think you should have stayed with Tmobile and there 70 dollar unlimited because in a few months to a year you would have had lte and hspa+42 &21 as a fall back before you went to slow data. Im making the jump slowly but surely. My wife is getting the S4 on Tmobile and when the note3 comes out ill be going as well im sick of cdma amd the slow data when there is no LTE
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Psychotic-Cerebellum said:
P.P.S. I don't really seem to have any data issues so I'm guessing all is well, but I am having an issue where my wifi keeps turning itself on, like multiple times a day. I thought at first I may have been accidently hitting it, but upon further review, nope, not me. Sounds more like a ROM issue to me though, but as it seems like it may pertain I figured I'd bring it up
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Sprint Connection Optimizer will do that
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Psychotic-Cerebellum said:
P.P.S. I don't really seem to have any data issues so I'm guessing all is well, but I am having an issue where my wifi keeps turning itself on, like multiple times a day. I thought at first I may have been accidently hitting it, but upon further review, nope, not me. Sounds more like a ROM issue to me though, but as it seems like it may pertain I figured I'd bring it up
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You need to turn off sprint connection optimizer in setting more settings I believe
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budde2 said:
I think you should have stayed with Tmobile and there 70 dollar unlimited because in a few months to a year you would have had lte and hspa+42 &21 as a fall back before you went to slow data. Im making the jump slowly but surely. My wife is getting the S4 on Tmobile and when the note3 comes out ill be going as well im sick of cdma amd the slow data when there is no LTE
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I really only made the move due to the fact that T-mobile is the only service provider that gets absolutely no coverage inside my work, and, unfortunately, I work 12 hour days, 4-5 days a week. So, being as my contract was up, I didn't wanna sign up for 2 more years with lte "coming soon." I know you all with Sprint know how that has the possibility of turning out. Plus, just because they were getting lte doesn't mean I'm going to see any improvement at work. Now I'm getting consistent 3g inside work and I'm loving it. Actually typing this inside, infamously, the worst service area in the entire building and still getting an almost constant connection. Occasionally I am getting 4g, not often, but it's happened. Playing around with modems tonight though. Did end up trying LJC after being on MA7,no problems so far, actually seeing improvement. Thanks for the heads up on the Sprint Connection Optimizer, gonna check that out now. Super annoying, especially as I do work 12 hour shifts and with wifi turning randomly on, don't wanna look to see my battery down to nada. That's just the kinda info I was hoping to get here, thanks again!
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Psychotic-Cerebellum said:
I really only made the move due to the fact that T-mobile is the only service provider that gets absolutely no coverage inside my work, and, unfortunately, I work 12 hour days, 4-5 days a week. So, being as my contract was up, I didn't wanna sign up for 2 more years with lte "coming soon." I know you all with Sprint know how that has the possibility of turning out. Plus, just because they were getting lte doesn't mean I'm going to see any improvement at work. Now I'm getting consistent 3g inside work and I'm loving it. Actually typing this inside, infamously, the worst service area in the entire building and still getting an almost constant connection. Occasionally I am getting 4g, not often, but it's happened. Playing around with modems tonight though. Did end up trying LJC after being on MA7,no problems so far, actually seeing improvement. Thanks for the heads up on the Sprint Connection Optimizer, gonna check that out now. Super annoying, especially as I do work 12 hour shifts and with wifi turning randomly on, don't wanna look to see my battery down to nada. That's just the kinda info I was hoping to get here, thanks again!
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Yeah the wifi thing Will kill your battery. Sprint is not as bad as everyone thinks and says I have great LTE in 90% of where I go. I'm thinking of going to T-Mobile because I'm sick of cdma devices we are always are considered last ro none over GSM. If sprint keeps up the good work with the LtE and 3g ill be saying. Glad you hot it figured out for rh the most part.
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Silly me not sure what I did

So today I bought a new Note 2 (SGH-i317M) on Bell Mobility Canada, as I was having issues with my first one. The first one had been rooted, and had a couple different roms on it. The last week or so my reception has been atrocious and constantly in "emergency calls only" mode, so I said "forget it" get a new one, send in the old one and sell it to my buddy when it gets back.
I managed to get a stock recovery and a stock rom on the old Note 2 using Samsung Galaxy Note2 Toolkit. Now, this is where it goes wonky and not sure what happened.
Upon initially getting the stock rom (4.1.1) on it, I noticed another update in the notification tray. At this point my SIM card has been pulled and I am using only wifi on it. I jumped on the update thinking cool my device isn't "modified" anymore, so I will take this update ( to 4.1.2)
After doing that update, I looked in my app drawer and it has 6 or 7 Roger's bloat apps in it, and the kernel version was different. Otherwise baseband, build and Android version are the same Not sure if it happened when I installed the stock rom from the Toolkit process or if the Roger's apps came with the OTA update to 4.1.2.
The problem is, this makes it hard to take a phone back to Bell for repairs with Roger's system apps in it. I've tried flashing the stock rom from the Toolkit via Odin again but there is still Roger's bloat there.
I have no idea what to do now. I pretty much used up all my brain power today getting this far. Could someone point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it greatly.
Thanks ahead of time for any responses, I've been at this most of the day now and I am just out of ideas now. :silly:

If you are getting rogers apps in a fresh flash via Odin...then you likely have the wrong rom being flashed....(it happens)
Look in the "Everything thread" in the development section for the stock bell firmware. this is the bell stock firmware from the thread...I pulled it for you...http://www.hotfile.com/dl/180165074/47da708/I317MVLALJ2_I317MOYAALJ2_RWC.zip.html
That rom is the link from the everything thread...
You are the second user this week that has flashed a mis-labeled rom from the kit...
Once bell is flashed, your rogers apps will go away...
Remember to wipe all data and caches in the stock recovery before booting the new rom....g

U need to change ur csc, all stock Canadian fw is the same... it will show bell bloat till u enter the proper csc.
Hopfully this helps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1988202
And this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2004029

twanskys204 said:
U need to change ur csc, all stock Canadian fw is the same... it will show bell bloat till u enter the proper csc.
Hopfully this helps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1988202
And this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2004029
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+1 csc will give you right firmware i always use Samsung Galaxy S csc from pstore. Just choose your carrier and no need to flash firmware again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manniakk.cscselector
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gregsarg said:
If you are getting rogers apps in a fresh flash via Odin...then you likely have the wrong rom being flashed....(it happens)
Look in the "Everything thread" in the development section for the stock bell firmware. this is the bell stock firmware from the thread...I pulled it for you...http://www.hotfile.com/dl/180165074/47da708/I317MVLALJ2_I317MOYAALJ2_RWC.zip.html
That rom is the link from the everything thread...
You are the second user this week that has flashed a mis-labeled rom from the kit...
Once bell is flashed, your rogers apps will go away...
Remember to wipe all data and caches in the stock recovery before booting the new rom....g
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Thanks so much. I wish found that earlier.
As well as this.........
twanskys204 said:
U need to change ur csc, all stock Canadian fw is the same... it will show bell bloat till u enter the proper csc.
Hopfully this helps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1988202
And this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2004029
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jon3sh said:
+1 csc will give you right firmware i always use Samsung Galaxy S csc from pstore. Just choose your carrier and no need to flash firmware again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manniakk.cscselector
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Thanks so much guys. This experience has really stumped me.
I did however manage to get this sorted in the mean time. I installed a custom recovery back in, did a full system wipe the put in a rom that supports Canadian variants (tell ya the truth can't even remember it's name) and in that install process it had an aroma installer. One of the options was to adjust CSC for your desired carrier. After I set it up, I started the intitial process of wiping, and flashing and such over and voila I had all Bell apps and no Rogers apps.
But, in the meantime, the wifi decided to do its hanging thing again and for the last 3 hours or so I have been trying to get Triangle Away running on it. The app requires more data to work with my phone, but as this phone doesn't have a registered SIM and the wifi wont start now I have to manage a way to get it working, reset my binary count, unroot and verify and be done with it.
I greatly appreciate your guys input and will be reading as much as possible. Generally I can go flash crazy with custom roms but Odin messes me up.
I hope others see this thread and don't do what I did, and learn about CSC before they get hung up. Thanks again guys.
p.s. my brain hurts

OK. I officially give up. This 5 month old phone is going in the garbage. If it isn't one thing, it's another. Managed to get the wifi (and BT which I didn't know at first wasnt working) by inserting my new phones SIM. Blam, both worked. Great, now I can install Triangle Away, do my thing, reflash the stock firmware and I'm good.
And now.............the Toolkit won't recognize ADB enabled. I have been at this for over 24 hours now and it's been one roadblock after another.
I am officially McGyver'ed out :crying:

Idk what ur doing wrong but, doing a freash install should fix ur issues..

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Idk what ur doing wrong but, doing a freash install should fix ur issues..
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Right on. Ya I kinda gathered my thoughts and buckled down and started over. So, now I have what appears be the proper firmware on my older Note 2.
Version: 4.1.1
baseband: i317MVLAJ2
kernel: 3.0.31-262790 / [email protected] #1 / SMP PREEMPT wed Oct 3 ........2012
build: JRO03C.I317MVLAJ2
Device Status: Normal
It seems like the exact same software as when I first cracked my new one out the box. After I updated it, the newer one now has:
Version: 4.1.2
baseband: I317MVLBMA3
kernel: 3.0.31-262790 / [email protected] #1 / SMP PREEMPT wed Oct 3..........2012
build: JZ054K.I317MVLBMA3
Pretty sure I got all the numbers right lol.
Still trying to figure out what to do now for Triangle Away, and making this phone seem like it's never been touched. Thanks for your help so far.

Root with cf root ,,run triangle away then do what u just did

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Root with cf root ,,run triangle away then do what u just did
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CF Root. OK I will check it out. Thank you ! I will let ya know how it goes. I appreciate this as it just seems like there is just way too much Note 2 info out there. Thanks for the filter lol !

Update. Well that did it. In the "Download" screen it is saying;
-Custom binary download: No
-Current Binary: Samsung Official
-System Status: Official
In Settings, the device status is Normal
As far as my research has gotten me, my understanding is that I should now be able to send it in with out any warranty issues. My wifi and BT are acting hinky again but I may try my SIM swap again and see if that helps, before I send it away.
Thank you so much for your help. That suggestion of CF Auto-Root helped big time!!!!!

No problem. . Get some rest and hit it up in the morning. .

Valkillmore said:
Update. Well that did it. In the "Download" screen it is saying;
-Custom binary download: No
-Current Binary: Samsung Official
-System Status: Official
In Settings, the device status is Normal
As far as my research has gotten me, my understanding is that I should now be able to send it in with out any warranty issues. My wifi and BT are acting hinky again but I may try my SIM swap again and see if that helps, before I send it away.
Thank you so much for your help. That suggestion of CF Auto-Root helped big time!!!!!
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Next time you are flashing stock rom for your phone just use rom from link below so you dont need to worry about rooting after. Roms are root injected already and good to go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2004650
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jon3sh said:
Next time you are flashing stock rom for your phone just use rom from link below so you dont need to worry about rooting after. Roms are root injected already and good to go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2004650
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Nice ! Ya I found the same root injected bell rom but unfortunately it was after I wanted to uninstall and unroot. I will be taking this approach from now on. Thank you good sir!!
I appreciate everyone's patience because I was certainly runnIngl out of it . Going to get the old Note 2 packed up and shipped off sometime today. Again all help greatly appreciated guys .

To add to my ordeal going on now, I did notice that my first Note 2 was made in China, and feels sloppy. Like the battery is slightly loose, and like the assembly just doesn't feel tight. I had to slip a piece of folded paper in behind the battery as the phone always rebooted even just gently dropping it on the table.
My brand new Note 2 I noticed was made in Korea. The battery is seated much, much better, and the phone itself feels like it was put together in a factory, not a car garage.
I am wondering if this is what is going on, because today after messing with the old one (which is now OTA'd to 4.1.2 *thanks again guys!*), and having the same persistent wifi hanging issue (not turning on and not really turning off, just suspended) and BT not wanting to turn on, alongside its original problem of poor cell reception......I thought I wonder if something is just hinky/loose or whatever. So I picked the phone up, dropped it flat on its back (in a case lol) from about 8 inches in the air, onto my coffee table. Opened the notification tray, and tapped the wifi toggle and it instantly turn on, bright lime and I was able to see available networks. The BT turned on immediately after pressing it too. Can't speak on cell signal, and it may well just be coincidence, but after several wipe/flash processes and BT and wifi acting hinky across several factory resets etc, then immediately working after the drop.......strange indeed.
More convinced now than ever that I have had somewhat of a lemon the whole time as I have had weird issues with reception for a long time from in the house to out in the world. The phone has never been seriously dropped and anytime it did slip it was in an Urban Armor Gear case, screen is near mint (didnt have protector first week) , and should be absolutely zero water damage.

Valkillmore said:
To add to my ordeal going on now, I did notice that my first Note 2 was made in China, and feels sloppy. Like the battery is slightly loose, and like the assembly just doesn't feel tight. I had to slip a piece of folded paper in behind the battery as the phone always rebooted even just gently dropping it on the table.
My brand new Note 2 I noticed was made in Korea. The battery is seated much, much better, and the phone itself feels like it was put together in a factory, not a car garage.
I am wondering if this is what is going on, because today after messing with the old one (which is now OTA'd to 4.1.2 *thanks again guys!*), and having the same persistent wifi hanging issue (not turning on and not really turning off, just suspended) and BT not wanting to turn on, alongside its original problem of poor cell reception......I thought I wonder if something is just hinky/loose or whatever. So I picked the phone up, dropped it flat on its back (in a case lol) from about 8 inches in the air, onto my coffee table. Opened the notification tray, and tapped the wifi toggle and it instantly turn on, bright lime and I was able to see available networks. The BT turned on immediately after pressing it too. Can't speak on cell signal, and it may well just be coincidence, but after several wipe/flash processes and BT and wifi acting hinky across several factory resets etc, then immediately working after the drop.......strange indeed.
More convinced now than ever that I have had somewhat of a lemon the whole time as I have had weird issues with reception for a long time from in the house to out in the world. The phone has never been seriously dropped and anytime it did slip it was in an Urban Armor Gear case, screen is near mint (didnt have protector first week) , and should be absolutely zero water damage.
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Flash away now
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jon3sh said:
Flash away now
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Well, I was thinking that, but seeing it's under warranty, I am going to see what happens at Samsung. Hopefully they don't have some new way of seeing its been customed *face palm* lol and just replace it, even if its with a working factory rebuild or whatever. As I had to purchase both devices out right, and I live in Canada, I may be able to buy a car with the money.......holy crap its expensive up here.
Nearly $800 for each one. Ridiculous lol
EDIT: It would be a crappy car, but a car none the less

Ya , im up in canada also.. mine was 840 when it first came out. I payed it right out and unlocked it.
Mind u my build quality is excellent, maybe except for the sqeeky back.
But no problems none the less.:thumbup:
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twanskys204 said:
Ya , im up in canada also.. mine was 840 when it first came out. I payed it right out and unlocked it.
Mind u my build quality is excellent, maybe except for the sqeeky back.
But no problems none the less.:thumbup:
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Ya it is just ridiculous the costs up here, and I live up in northern BC so everything is just a little more than everywher else as expensive at it is already, UGH !
I wonder if there is a new batch shipped because like I said, the one I bought 5 months ago was made in China, and like you say "squeeky". Loose. And big difference in at least mobile data / cell radio performance between my two devices.
This new one made in Korea, even the older battery slides in nice and tight. No squeaky back. Just feels tighter, even the S-Pen. It was always kind of loose on the older Note and even tossing the phone onto the table sometimes dislodged it. Even my camera lense on my older one seemed like it was mounted weird. I'd prefer stuff domestic if possible but I sure notice a difference between the Korean manufactured and the Chinese manufactured.
But I have a feeling I may be sending it back right away if service is as useless as it is everywhere else nowadays. I noticed after getting home on the work order it says
Wifi not connecting
BT not connecting
etc
Well, it was not that BT or wifi wouldn't connect. They connect to my devces/network immediately, BUT if and only if they actually turn on. The toggle stays half lit, and the wifi would say "turning on" then simply shut off a minute later. And the BT just wouldn't turn on at all, UNTIL I "dropped fixed" them this morning.
She also forgot to add that the S-Pen is totally haywire. I think that may be simply a sensitivy calibration issue I could maybe fix myself from YouTube vids I've seen. Just never got to it with other issues. I just hope the tech that checks it isnt as useless as I am picturing them in my mind and they show initiative and actually check the whole phone. Dream on I'm thinking HA !

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Ya it is just ridiculous the costs up here, and I live up in northern BC so everything is just a little more than everywher else as expensive at it is already, UGH !!
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I have to agree Valkillmore, northern BC has horrible pricing. I have had mine since January on Telus and also had strange problems with the radios.
My wireless randomly drops my home wifi signal, regardless of which frequency it uses. This started just the other day and I actually hadn't done any flashing or updates in a few days. Seems strange that it would start now.