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Cant they track it?
You could sell it, but that's kinda morally objectionable.
Plus it will be flagged as having a bad ESN, so it won't be able to be activated on Sprint.
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You could sell it, but that's kinda morally objectionable.
Plus it will be flagged as having a bad ESN, so it won't be able to be activated on Sprint.
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Yea But cant you still use it??
the point is you can do what you want but sprint is not going to let it be put on a line.The ESN has been blacklisted so if you want to use it as a music player or whatever you want that does not use phone service or data then yes but as a phone No.
I will buy it for forty dollars!
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Once you lose a phone, Sprint places it on a lost/stolen list. If you sell it, the purchaser will not be able to activate it.
Sell on ebay and state has bad esn
I think if you only went through asurion the phone might still work. I had a phone that was lost and I did it through the website and i gave the phone to someone else when i found it and they told me that it activated. So maybe have a friend try and see if it works.
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Ill Buy it for $50 dollars, no questions ask!! I want to start into development roms, and ill be good for me!!!
Why even ask a question like that? Once you accepted the condition to file the claim then the phone belongs to the insurance company. The only sense to this question is that you want to know if you will be in any kind trouble.
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i thought the same thing too when i lost my phone in the movie theatre after it fell out of my pocket. I filed a claim and got the replacment then i was able to find my lost phone shortly after. i checked the ESN and it was still clean. i was surprised but now i have two evos. You can always call them and check if its still a valid esn.
Because I don't want to cause anyone any undo trouble. I would like to get my deductible back so I will say bad esn on eBay for $100 as another forum member sugested. Thank you for all input into this discussion.
Why even ask a question like that? Once you accepted the condition to file the claim then the phone belongs to the insurance company. The only sense to this question is that you want to know if you will be in any kind trouble.
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You certainly can activate it still.
I lost my TP2 and got a new one thru insurance and then Sprint called me and told me someone turned in my lost tp2.
I reactivated my original the second I got home. I sold the new TP2. I called Sprint and they told me I was supposed to send the lost one to the insurance but it was up to me. They didn't really care.
Moral wrong..yes... doable .. yes.
if you call ausrion and get a replacement phone they send you another one out but by law or sprint policy (not sure which its to early for me to google it a few sprint employees have told me though) they cant contact sprint and flag it as bad ESN your suppose to do that yourself. So you can activate the old one if you like with 0 issues. Been their and have done it. (on accident found the missing phone like a week or 2 later) sold it to a friend and he is still using it.
There are methods to make a phone work on another carrier if it has a bad ESN on Sprint. Cricket and Metro PCS are the carriers that are most commonly used in the US. I actually bought an Evo on Craigslist a while back for a good price. It wasn't listed as lost/stolen, but it was still tied to a suspended Sprint account. I later sold it on eBay for $360 and listed it with a bad ESN and a bad headphone jack. I think the guy I sold it to was planning on using it in Mexico.
Even without activation, an Evo makes a pretty nice MID on Wifi. Just be warned that most Android devices won't connect to an ad-hoc Wifi network, so it's hard to tether it to another phone.
You could sell it for more than $100. Can't you hack it to work with VZW PRL? Maybe that'll sell for more.
Technically you could sell it to someone on metro pcs or cricket.. they dont care about esn's being blacklisted they'll activate it anyway.
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Why even ask a question like that? Once you accepted the condition to file the claim then the phone belongs to the insurance company. The only sense to this question is that you want to know if you will be in any kind trouble.
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Oh God the moral police is here. Its a very valid question. I would do the same damn thing this Guy is doing. Just think of it as a way to recover that 10 dollars extra a month we are ALL getting hosed for every month.
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The "moral" thing to do is call the insurance company, explain that you found your old phone and you would like to return the phone and get your deductible returned as well.
I would think they would go for it as they make out in the end.
And you can sleep at night knowing they won't catch on to you some day and deactivate your phone. (highly doubt that could ever happen, but I tend to have a really guilty conscience. what's a $100 anyway.....)
I was proposed an offer to trade my ET4G for a GNex. Im considering doing it. What we want to do is the nice lady that wants my phone is to use her upgrade for the GNex then when she receives the phone trade it for my ET4G (She like Touchwiz, I prefer AOSP). What Im concerned about is if Sprint will allow this exchange to happen right after she receives it. I don't want them to hit her for the full amount or anything like that. She plans on calling in ans saying she doesn't like the phone and wants to add swap the phones. Will Sprint allow this to happen right after she receives the phone? I kinda hate to leave the ET4G but LTE is lighting up soon in Chicago and where I live there is no WiMax.
Up to what I know, yes, Sprint will let you do this, they'll just make you activate it on her account, resign the 2 year agreement on her account, then you can do the swap. The only thing is, buy the phone directly from Sprint, not Simplexity or something. If you buy it from Simplexity, they'll hit her with the full price, but directly bought from Sprint is A ok.
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I was proposed an offer to trade my ET4G for a GNex. Im considering doing it. What we want to do is the nice lady that wants my phone is to use her upgrade for the GNex then when she receives the phone trade it for my ET4G (She like Touchwiz, I prefer AOSP). What Im concerned about is if Sprint will allow this exchange to happen right after she receives it. I don't want them to hit her for the full amount or anything like that. She plans on calling in ans saying she doesn't like the phone and wants to add swap the phones. Will Sprint allow this to happen right after she receives the phone? I kinda hate to leave the ET4G but LTE is lighting up soon in Chicago and where I live there is no WiMax.
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So long as it is an upgrade and not a new customer, it's ok. She doesn't even have to make up that story. What I would advise, though, is to wait to do the trade until after the 14 day is up, simply to be safe guarded if the device is defective out of the box. Not saying that the ESN swap voids our policy, but it would just make it logistically tough in a retail store, with how it would look on our end.
Also, she'll need an inactive phone to complete the transaction. We can't just flip-flop two different accounts' ESNs simultaneously, and an account can't be left without an ESN, even temporarily. She'll need to activate another phone (not yours, since it's tied to your account, unless you activate another phone instead of her), the gnex will then be inactive and free to go on your account, and then you can put your E4GT on hers.
What this all really amounts to is that this whole transaction will be much much easier in a store than over a phone lol.
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He is exactly right. Listen to him
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So long as it is an upgrade and not a new customer, it's ok. She doesn't even have to make up that story. What I would advise, though, is to wait to do the trade until after the 14 day is up, simply to be safe guarded if the device is defective out of the box. Not saying that the ESN swap voids our policy, but it would just make it logistically tough in a retail store, with how it would look on our end.
Also, she'll need an inactive phone to complete the transaction. We can't just flip-flop two different accounts' ESNs simultaneously, and an account can't be left without an ESN, even temporarily. She'll need to activate another phone (not yours, since it's tied to your account, unless you activate another phone instead of her), the gnex will then be inactive and free to go on your account, and then you can put your E4GT on hers.
What this all really amounts to is that this whole transaction will be much much easier in a store than over a phone lol.
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Damn, I thanked you on accident. If I may interject... You are correct up until the whole inactive phone part. Sales Rep should contact NSS and they should be able to do the flip flop over the phone... At least that is what I gather from past experience.. :highfive:
If NSS gives you a hard time simply hang up and call again until you speak to someone who knows what they are doing..
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Damn, I thanked you on accident. If I may interject... You are correct up until the whole inactive phone part. Sales Rep should contact NSS and they should be able to do the flip flop over the phone... At least that is what I gather from past experience.. :highfive:
If NSS gives you a hard time simply hang up and call again until you speak to someone who knows what they are doing..
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Lol this is correct, though I know many in my store would rather do it themselves to save some time.
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Thanks everyone! Now I need to decide if I want to leave the ET...
Well if they want an esn on the account at all times and she is using her upgrade then she would have a phone with a clean esn that you could swap your phone for then she swaps your e4gt to her account and then you swap the GNex on to yours. Yes its a lot of extra work but its an option if you have to have an active phone on both accounts
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Thanks everyone! Now I need to decide if I want to leave the ET...
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I'm leaving it for the Nexus. My sister want my E4GT and her upgrade is available next month, so she wants me to take her upgrade and give her my phone. I'm leaving sprint in December anyways, so it's not worth getting a phone like the S3 or Evo LTE. And the iPhone is a definite no anyways.
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Hey gang, long story short;
I lost my phone on Halloween, got my Asurion replacement but now I'm considering switching to AT&T to get back on my family plan with my wife.
I'm within my 30 days to cancel my contract. I don't have my original hardware but I do have a new Asurion one. I'm willing to eat the deductible to get out. Is this going to be a problem. any advice will be appreciated.
It probably depends on who you talk to but they might stick you with the etf because its not the original equipment you opened the line with
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I think T-Mobile's Return Policy is 14 DAYs not 30days.
mha1021 said:
I think T-Mobile's Return Policy is 14 DAYs not 30days.
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California is 30 days cancel and return.
I talked to tech support to reactivate my account to see if I really want to switch back or not and they said that it shouldn't be a problem to return this handset versus the one I got in store. It is the same phone and now it is 2 weeks newer than the one I got. I guess we'll see how it goes.
I love this phone, though and really hope I can convince my wife to join me on Tmo so I can keep it.
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California is 30 days cancel and return.
I talked to tech support to reactivate my account to see if I really want to switch back or not and they said that it shouldn't be a problem to return this handset versus the one I got in store. It is the same phone and now it is 2 weeks newer than the one I got. I guess we'll see how it goes.
I love this phone, though and really hope I can convince my wife to join me on Tmo so I can keep it.
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it should be fine, my store said that they'll charge a $50 restocking fee if I return the phone within 30 days (then again I bought my phone outright without a contract, so maybe no restocking fee for you).
I know I can return and pay a restock fee with "original" hardware but does my insurance replaced phone count as "original" hardware?
Thanks again for the input and sorry I didn't think to stick this in Q&A in the first place.
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I know I can return and pay a restock fee with "original" hardware but does my insurance replaced phone count as "original" hardware?
Thanks again for the input and sorry I didn't think to stick this in Q&A in the first place.
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In general no but you never know it's always worth a try
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Why dont you take the phone with you? Not 100% sure the tmobile will take it back. You have a receipt for a particular imei not just a certain phone. I wouldnt be surprised if they flat out refuse.
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Why dont you take the phone with you? Not 100% sure the tmobile will take it back. You have a receipt for a particular imei not just a certain phone. I wouldnt be surprised if they flat out refuse.
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Not looking good according to the feedback here
So what would they expect me to do, pay for the phone outright even though it was lost and I paid for insurance? Then after I cancel, what do i do with the replacement. This isn't a very good system if this is the case.
I've returned 2 new phones in the past 6 months on Verizon. The first time was with a GS3, the rep just looked at the outside to make sure there was nothing obviously damaged, never turned it on or checked the IMEI. The second return was a MAXX HD, where the rep didn't even open the box, he just processed my return and I went on my way.
I would say go to the store, attempt to return it but don't mention that you got it replaced with insurance unless they ask.
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Not looking good according to the feedback here
So what would they expect me to do, pay for the phone outright even though it was lost and I paid for insurance? Then after I cancel, what do i do with the replacement. This isn't a very good system if this is the case.
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Heres the thing. Your local t-mobile store is a franchise and owned by someone who sets the rules for that store, following guidelines from t-mobile. None of us are going to accurately be able to give you any insight into how the store will handle your transaction.
That being said, are you having buyers remorse? Is the t-mobile coverage bad? You mentioned your wifes family plan, t-mobile offers better plans vs at&t...cost wise. Whats the reason you are returning the phone?
For those who returned phones and are saying they dont check, they do and will. Your imei is in a lot of other places than just in jellybean. Again, its different by store. Just go in and be honest with the salesman and manager and let us know how they handled it.
What I missed in all of this is your reasoning behind getting rid of the phone.
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Heres the thing. Your local t-mobile store is a franchise and owned by someone who sets the rules for that store, following guidelines from t-mobile. None of us are going to accurately be able to give you any insight into how the store will handle your transaction.
That being said, are you having buyers remorse? Is the t-mobile coverage bad? You mentioned your wifes family plan, t-mobile offers better plans vs at&t...cost wise. Whats the reason you are returning the phone?
For those who returned phones and are saying they dont check, they do and will. Your imei is in a lot of other places than just in jellybean. Again, its different by store. Just go in and be honest with the salesman and manager and let us know how they handled it.
What I missed in all of this is your reasoning behind getting rid of the phone.
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I love the phone but the contract is just more than I want to spend and becuase I can get the same phone at ATT, I just figure I might want to wait until I can just buy the phone outright or wait until my ETF isn't $230. Tmo has been a little spotty during my trial, a lot of data switching to edge or worse. So all in all, I guess I was just hoping Tmovile would wow me enough that I'd go the extra mie to keep it but they did not. So now I'm hoping I'm not stuck over something dumb on my part by losing my original hardware.
Good advice, though.
Basically, I lost my s3 without the sim card in it, instead in my Mytouch 4g for tethering purposes. Now asurion wouldn't insure my s3. I know this isn't the first time this has happened to someone, but I've yet to find a solution. Is there anything I can do? I've filed about 7 claims , but they've all been rejected because of this.
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Basically, I lost my s3 without the sim card in it, instead in my Mytouch 4g for tethering purposes. Now asurion wouldn't insure my s3. I know this isn't the first time this has happened to someone, but I've yet to find a solution. Is there anything I can do? I've filed about 7 claims , but they've all been rejected because of this.
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There is nothing you can do. Insurance only covers the phone that is currently activated (ie., the one with the SIM card in it).
Why would you expect them to cover a phone that isn't actively being used? That's ridiculous. Sorry about your luck but with insurance, it has always been the activated device. With CDMA carriers you had to call with the ESN. With GSM its done automatically with the SIM.
When I bought the insurance, it was for my GS3 and no other phone. I wouldn't want them to replace the mytouch if it was lost, because I didn't buy insurance for that phone.
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When I bought the insurance, it was for my GS3 and no other phone. I wouldn't want them to replace the mytouch if it was lost, because I didn't buy insurance for that phone.
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Read your insurance contract. Insurance only covers whatever device is currently active on the account at the time of the claim. Sorry but you won't find a way out of this one.
He's right, when I called to report a faulty device they wouldn't give me an exchange because I was using another phone at the time, they told me I had to put my sim card in it and use it for at least 3 days before they would give me an exchange.. Well it wasn't to asurion, it was to T-Mobile but it makes sense they would do the same
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That's why the monthly fee is the same regardless of your device. Only the deductible is determined by the device.
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That's why the monthly fee is the same regardless of your device. Only the deductible is determined by the device.
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The monthly fee is not the same for the HTC One or S4 and possibly other devices. Its one of the things holding me back. Its 12 a month for a "premier" bundle versus the 8 per phone we pay for the "premium" bundle on our S3s. There is a 7.49 option for premier devices but it doesn't have the warranty with it. I don't know how the warranty add on goes with T-Mobile but if you didn't have it with Sprint it was a nightmare trying to get replacements for manufacturing defects.
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My bad, I didn't realize that. May be it was just the ones I looked at at the time were the same.
Anyway, if they are charging different monthly rates for different devices, and you pay for the S3, then I think they should be a bit more lenient on honoring it. I understand they are not and understand why, but still, if you sign up and pay for the service.....well, you should be provided that service or a refund.
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So, by this logic, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but ANY phone I put the simcard into, should be insured without question, right? What's stopping me from putting the simcard in a really broken s3 and replacing that?
Its gotta be actice on the network and match that imei.
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The IMEI has to match what? They say that they will insure my Mytouch 3g, just because the sim is in it. and that phone was never even mine. Also when does the sim recognize what phone it's in? Will it recognize before I go through the setup process?
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The IMEI has to match what? They say that they will insure my Mytouch 3g, just because the sim is in it. and that phone was never even mine. Also when does the sim recognize what phone it's in? Will it recognize before I go through the setup process?
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The imei most recently registered on the network has to match the imei of the device you're trying to file a claim on. The sim just allows it to use the network. As soon as you connect your device registers itself and thats is the info they use. The sim is attached to your account.
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The IMEI has to match what? They say that they will insure my Mytouch 3g, just because the sim is in it. and that phone was never even mine. Also when does the sim recognize what phone it's in? Will it recognize before I go through the setup process?
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I know you're looking for a way out of this but you won't find one. Even if you swap devices with someone for a few days, calling Asurion for a replacement will make that phone Asurion's property once the replacement arrives. As soon as you turn on the device and it registers with the network, the update is made in the system and the IMEI is updated on your account to match the phone you are using.
They will not make an exception ever. From what I understand, Asurion can't even see the information to replace a phone that you're not actively using period.
You might be able to get a sympathetic loyalty rep at T-Mobile that can help you recover some of the cost of a new phone but that's your only option at this point.
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I know you're looking for a way out of this but you won't find one. Even if you swap devices with someone for a few days, calling Asurion for a replacement will make that phone Asurion's property once the replacement arrives. As soon as you turn on the device and it registers with the network, the update is made in the system and the IMEI is updated on your account to match the phone you are using.
They will not make an exception ever. From what I understand, Asurion can't even see the information to replace a phone that you're not actively using period.
You might be able to get a sympathetic loyalty rep at T-Mobile that can help you recover some of the cost of a new phone but that's your only option at this point.
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I was thinking of just getting a broken phone and putting the sim card in there, and sending it back as damaged. The reason I asked about the sim activation is because if the phone isn't working, and if it's factory reset, and mice won't work on the initial setup screen (where it asks you to select your language and connect your account), then would the sim still recognize the phone from the very first screen where it says english? Thanks for all your help so far though. I really appreciate it.
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I was thinking of just getting a broken phone and putting the sim card in there, and sending it back as damaged. The reason I asked about the sim activation is because if the phone isn't working, and if it's factory reset, and mice won't work on the initial setup screen (where it asks you to select your language and connect your account), then would the sim still recognize the phone from the very first screen where it says english? Thanks for all your help so far though. I really appreciate it.
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With how many claims they have already rejected they will likely reject that claim too - I would be careful because they CAN take away your insurance benefits (they did it to me on Sprint for 6 months after getting into a fight with a supervisor at Asurion). Not to mention that you're forgetting a key thing - you have to have that phone registered on the network for at least 72 hours. So you want to carry around a phone you can't use for 3 days?
As for activation, if the device powers up and connects to the network, it will register. You don't have to go through the setup process - as long as the phone gets a signal from the tower, you will be registered.
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With how many claims they have already rejected they will likely reject that claim too - I would be careful because they CAN take away your insurance benefits (they did it to me on Sprint for 6 months after getting into a fight with a supervisor at Asurion). Not to mention that you're forgetting a key thing - you have to have that phone registered on the network for at least 72 hours. So you want to carry around a phone you can't use for 3 days?
As for activation, if the device powers up and connects to the network, it will register. You don't have to go through the setup process - as long as the phone gets a signal from the tower, you will be registered.
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That company is horrible. When I left Sprint they were looking for another company to use because they had so many complaints... and guess what. If you file a claim and they send you a phone... it has zero warranty through them. So you could get stuck with a dead phone. It's a horrible company to deal with.
tmobile s3 running wicked. I still use a t9 text app so excuse the errors
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That company is horrible. When I left Sprint they were looking for another company to use because they had so many complaints... and guess what. If you file a claim and they send you a phone... it has zero warranty through them. So you could get stuck with a dead phone. It's a horrible company to deal with.
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That wasn't my experience with Asurion and Sprint. If I replaced a phone through Asurion, TEP covered my warranty on the replacement phone every time.
The problem I had with Asurion was all the "lemon" phones HTC was churning out back then - I would swap a phone 4 or 5 times under warranty and one time Sprint was out of stock on refurbs so they made me go through Asurion, long story short I made the supervisor at Asurion upgrade me to the Touch Pro 2 from the Mogul but lost my insurance for 6 months. Didn't matter because I didn't keep the TP2 long anyway before I moved on but yeah.
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With how many claims they have already rejected they will likely reject that claim too - I would be careful because they CAN take away your insurance benefits (they did it to me on Sprint for 6 months after getting into a fight with a supervisor at Asurion). Not to mention that you're forgetting a key thing - you have to have that phone registered on the network for at least 72 hours. So you want to carry around a phone you can't use for 3 days?
As for activation, if the device powers up and connects to the network, it will register. You don't have to go through the setup process - as long as the phone gets a signal from the tower, you will be registered.
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Yeah, I'm just going to take the risk and hope that they don't reject this claim, if I can get a broken phone. Also, not having a phone for a few days is fine with me, also, I don't really care about the insurance benefits for 6 months, I'll just have to be more careful for a while. Besides you got what you wanted from the fight, right? They shouldn't have anything to fall back on if they reject this claim, since everything should check out. Thanks for the help again, you've been so useful.
Make a comaint against t mobile and bbb. This has worked for me 2times. Do this if your story is legite and not bsing us or asurion.
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Make a comaint against t mobile and bbb. This has worked for me 2times. Do this if your story is legite and not bsing us or asurion.
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He should make a complaint to the BBB about T-Mobile for not being compliant with the terms and conditions outlined in the insurance policy that he has with Asurion? Hmm, that's some great logic.
Here are the terms in question:
"The wireless device owned by you for which: 1) the unique
identification number (International Mobile Equipment Identity (IMEI)),
Electronic Serial Number (ESN) or Mobile Equipment ID (MEID) of
such wireless device is reflected in the records of the Wireless Service
Provider at the time your coverage initially became effective; and 2)
for which outgoing airtime usage has been logged with the Wireless
Service Provider on your account after coverage became effective;
unless you have logged outgoing airtime on a different wireless phone
immediately prior to the time of loss, in which case such wireless
device becomes the covered property so long as: i) such wireless
device is owned by you and you provide us proof of ownership; and
ii) airtime usage was logged on such device on your account with the
Wireless Service Provider immediately prior to the time of loss."
The bold part is what matters. This is Asurion policy, not T-Mobile policy. File a complaint with the BBB against Asurion if you think you have been wronged.
The "proof of ownership" clause doesn't count in GSM phones, it goes by the IMEI registered in the system as has been explained.
Individual results may vary. I am not responsible for the device you gain/lose
Believe it or not, you may actually be able to swap your current S3 for the LTE Variant Right Now.
Let me give you some backstory:
I called my salesrep and asked about coming in to swap my HSPA variant S3 for the LTE variant. I simply explained that when I originally switched to TMO from Sprint, I started with the S2 due to money issues, but later swapped to the S3. Upon swapping, I SPECIFICALLY asked about this device getting LTE once the towers launch. He told me yes, whether it's a firmware push or already there, he wasn't quite sure, but assured me I'd get it. The salesrep told me he understands my concern and talked to his manager, I was on hold for about 5 minutes being asked random questions about my device; How long I've been a customer, phone color, etc. When he finally returned, he told me that because I'm out of my 30 day trial period, he cannot swap my device. Even with a restocking fee, he sadly could not bypass the system to do it, otherwise he would right there on the spot.
He told me to try and call TMO customer support and get through to Loyalty. So after thanking him and discussing LTE things, I went on my way.
I got a hold of this woman whom I did not remember to take down her name, but I started off by saying how amazing TMO is compared to Sprint. Customer service, support, coverage, and speed; when she told me she actually came from Sprint herself as a Rep. We joked for a bit about how slow Sprint was at rolling out towers compared to TMO and how pitiful the speeds were, and she tried to discourage me about swapping since there are new phones out there, LTE may not be available in my area, speeds may be minimal, etc. But she did say she'd transfer me anyway if I desired. I said sure, I may not qualify, but couldn't hurt to try. Here's where it gets interesting.
I got pushed through to Loyalty, and spoke to a gentleman named AJ, but the system has him down as Andrew. I again expressed my concerns and issues, and he said he completely understood. He proceeded to tell me that at the time, the salesrep I originally asked about LTE was technically right, at the time. (You all know how reps know little to nothing until a week or two until it's released.... and he confirmed this.) But it turned out it wasn't the case as a separate device was released.
He continued to tell me that He would be glad to send me another device, ALTHOUGH NOT GUARANTEEING it would be the LTE variant, but most likely being the case. He said that there was a 6 day back order at the moment and said once it's available, he'd overnight ship for no extra charge; although there is a chance it might be a Refurb. There was a 5$ fee of swapping or something, but said he'd waive it, and if by chance the device I got wasn't the LTE variant, I might be able to get it waived again and send it back and start over. I had 7 days upon receiving the device to mail either one back or be charged around 500$, I'm assuming the rest of the money I owe on my current device. If I sent either back with water or other damage, be charge about 130$, which I assume is a slightly higher deductible for the protection plan. I was told that upon receiving the device, it would have instructions how to setup and activate, as well as how to ship either device back.
Bottom line, you may be able to have the same happen to you. as I said at the top, results may vary, and I cannot be held responsible for which device you get and/or not backing up data before switching. Give it a try, I got lucky on the first try, maybe it's because I'm a new customer, try what I did and let the rest of us know. Once I get my new device I will of course report back and tell my results.
So basically a warranty exchange. You go to T-Mobile and tell them your "story" and for $5 they send you a refurbished (rarely new) phone and back cover, you send the back your phone and back cover.
So you haven't received the phone yet?
If you do get the LTE version, don't brick it, currently no way to unbrick it.
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I rather keep my T-999 version.
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Da Kine said:
So basically a warranty exchange. You go to T-Mobile and tell them your "story" and for $5 they send you a refurbished (rarely new) phone and back cover, you send the back your phone and back cover.
So you haven't received the phone yet?
If you do get the LTE version, don't brick it, currently no way to unbrick it.
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How is a warranty exchange? I have no issue with my current device and I'm not paying any deductible. And a T999L Is basically new, refurb'd or not. It's been out what, a little over a month?
Naturesretard said:
How is a warranty exchange? I have no issue with my current device and I'm not paying any deductible. And a T999L Is basically new, refurb'd or not. It's been out what, a little over a month?
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Sorry but this process is called a warranty exchange through Tmobile. Proof. I used to work for their call centers and processed a billion of these. Yes normally its 5$ if you have the insurance and anyone with the insurance gets the overnight shipping waived. . The chances of you getting a brand new t999l are lessthan 90% . proof: they'll send it to you in a white box where it will cone with instructions to return your "defective device" without battery and back cover. They told you that right. The "new device" will not come with a battery and back cover that's why they have you keep that stuff. Not to be rude but this is nothing special. There is a good chance you may get a t999l or just a regular t999 depending in their stock. Rarely do they send brand new units. You may get lucky though and they send you a new one but its rare. Good luck. Basically even if the t999l is new they use devices that people return or can be rwfurb to give back to those using warranty exchange.
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Naturesretard said:
How is a warranty exchange? I have no issue with my current device and I'm not paying any deductible. And a T999L Is basically new, refurb'd or not. It's been out what, a little over a month?
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My sister has done it through T-Mobile with her mytouch 4g slide the same way. They sent her the same thing T-Mobile said they would send you, Except she really had problems with her phone and wasnt trying to get a new or better phone out of T-Mobile.
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Sorry but this process is called a warranty exchange through Tmobile. Proof. I used to work for their call centers and processed a billion of these. Yes normally its 5$ if you have the insurance and anyone with the insurance gets the overnight shipping waived. . The chances of you getting a brand new t999l are lessthan 90% . proof: they'll send it to you in a white box where it will cone with instructions to return your "defective device" without battery and back cover. They told you that right. The "new device" will not come with a battery and back cover that's why they have you keep that stuff. Not to be rude but this is nothing special. There is a good chance you may get a t999l or just a regular t999 depending in their stock. Rarely do they send brand new units. You may get lucky though and they send you a new one but its rare. Good luck. Basically even if the t999l is new they use devices that people return or can be rwfurb to give back to those using warranty exchange.
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Monkeypaws is correct.
Also, the device you receive will most likely give you more problems than you had with your original S3, T-Mobile will only do so much to a device to mark it as "refurbished". Who knows how many exchanges you'll go through until you are happy with an S3 that is issue free or a t999l with few problems.
Personally, I wouldn't waste the time or money on trying to get the the t999l, when my phone works and looks as it should. But who knows, you might end up being one of those lucky SOBs who get a t999l that is issue free.
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Come on guys, just because you get a refurb doesn't mean its gonna give you problems, I have a refurb t999 and I have never had any problems, the only reason I got the refurb was because I messed something up on my previous s3.. OP is just trying to help those that were fooled by tmo employees that guaranteed them their s3 would get lte once it was rolled out.. I don't wanna make a big deal about this, but if lte is up and running in your area I think its definitely worth a try.. If you don't think its worth it then just don't worry about it and carry on
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Come on guys, just because you get a refurb doesn't mean its gonna give you problems, I have a refurb t999 and I have never had any problems, the only reason I got the refurb was because I messed something up on my previous s3.. OP is just trying to help those that were fooled by tmo employees that guaranteed them their s3 would get lte once it was rolled out.. I don't wanna make a big deal about this, but if lte is up and running in your area I think its definitely worth a try.. If you don't think its worth it then just don't worry about it and carry on
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I agree with you. I went through 2 warranty exchanges with my sgs3. All awesome. Also the op was making it seem like this was a trick to get an LTE version when any rep can process this same exchange without going all the way to loyalty. I've also been lucky where loyalty actually sent me a new phone in sealed box but that was a special case where thru screwed up . I've also had it where they were out of stock on a certain color and sent me a new white sgs3 for my black.
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I was unaware this is a common thing. But figures I'd offer my story anyway. Refurb or not, t999L is new, chances of having a serious issue on one is slim right?
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I was unaware this is a common thing. But figures I'd offer my story anyway. Refurb or not, t999L is new, chances of having a serious issue on one is slim right?
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If say slim. They do go through testing and making sure its working before they ship out. That is not to say there may be hardware issues that may happen but that is the same chance when buying a new device also. Samsung builds quality devices so I'd say not to worry. Check everything out as soon as you get it since you have seven days to return your older device out. My wife on the other hand went through more than 7 returns of a mytouch4g. Even loyalty couldn't help me there.
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Not for nothing but im in nj and i have s3 without lte and my wife have s4 and about a month ago she begin getting lte and i dont see any diff with the speed actually i did a speedtest full bars on both n mine marked 25+mbps and hers 10mbps with her lte... Im happy with my s3 w/o lte , i can get the s4 anytime but s3 is working fine n my speed is great anywhere i go
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If that's the average she sees when on lte, then something is very wrong. Lte should get an average of 30-40mbps as I'm aware. I've even seen people report over 50.
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If that's the average she sees when on lte, then something is very wrong. Lte should get an average of 30-40mbps as I'm aware. I've even seen people report over 50.
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Most I've ever seen from hspa + I've seen is 15mbs on a good day. But that was only once. LTE offers faster upload... That's mainly the big difference besides penetration
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Lte is supposed to be blazing fast! The only place there may not be much difference is when you're comparing to HSPA+42. Its fast but still not as fast as lte.
On hspa I can generally get around 20mbps. But have seen peaks quite a bit higher.
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I mostly get 23 down and 24 up with good signal strength on my Note 2. That is in the Seattle-Bellevue market.
I used to get 24 down and 3.5 up on HSPA+ (installing the LTE modem chopped my HSPA download performance down to 15 down typically). Where lte shines in my opinion is latency. Super low compared to HSPA+. My wife's S3 is still smoking fast on hspa, latency just sucks.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
I dont really care for the T999L. Im happy with what I have. Here in Dallas, My friend have a AT&T S3 with LTE and he wasnt near as fast as mine.
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Just an FYI, T-Mobile is out of S3 refurbs and so is Asurion. If you go through T-Mobile warranty exchange you will get a refurb T999. If you pay your deductible and go through Asurion, because of Asurions contract with you to provide you with a "comparable" device the fact they currently have no refurbs to send out means you will get a new in box S3 LTE - why? Because unlike T-Mobile, Asurion is required to have a low turn around for customers because you are paying the deductible and you've been billed monthly for the privilege.
Here's a tip though - break the phone, call Asurion from a landline or someone else's phone, make the claim, and use an older phone only AFTER you have reported it broken - if you do it beforehand, as soon as the IMEI changes in the system, that phone becomes the covered phone and its a ***** to deal with them in that situation.
Finally, none of this is worth it. The T999L is the same old technology on the at&t version and if you're going to pay the deductible, you might as well upgrade.
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I like that Remnant guy. He's always a glass half empty but usually fully correct.
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I like that Remnant guy. He's always a glass half empty but usually fully correct.
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That just made my day lol!
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I'd like LTE cuz it sound so cool but I get 1.3-2 megaBYTES regularly so I really don't see the need for more speed...
Plus after the things my phone has seen... I really wouldn't want to use a refurbished one that someone else used.. I'll be getting the S5 :silly: