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Hi there,
Anyone coming from gnex (Samsung galaxy nexus)?
Just need some feedback on software support, size handling and personal impression.
Thank you
The Note 2 is better at everything, screen, battery, and if you like aosp, there are a lot of those roms for you. The only thing we are missing from a nexus, as far as I can tell, is photoshpere. The devs for this phone are fantastic, so many roms to choose from. The size of the phone should not bother you. Oh yeah, the camera on the Note 2 blows away the Galaxy Nexus. I've had the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4, and the Note 2 when running an aosp rom is just as smooth as the Nexus 4, IMO.
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Touchwiz is bearable on the gnote2 because most of the features are actually useful AND work. Great all around phone. Reception, form factor is great for its size, put your own launcher like nova to get the aosp launcher feel, volume is great on ear speaker and loudspeaker and the 720p screen is beautiful even when compared to 1080p. And the SD card slot and removable battery are bonus. Oh yeah, can't forget battery life. Battery just doesn't stop. Expect 6+ hours of screen time easily. Only the most demanding of games will put a hurt on it and even then it still does great. All that and you can get this phone for less than $550 currently and it should still hold nicely for at least another year and I wouldn't be surprised if it holds it down another 2. Don't forget to get a wireless receiver to put inside the battery compartment and a compatible wireless charger.
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It's definitely worth upgrading. This phone is better in every respect - sure we only have Android 4.1 officially but unless you really need the multi user feature then you actually gain quite a bit from TouchWiz. The launcher itself blows but the rest is great - things like multi window and driving mode. I don't even run custom roms anymore it's that good - rooted stock is all you need on this bad boy.
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lyall29 said:
The Note 2 is better at everything, screen, battery, and if you like aosp, there are a lot of those roms for you. The only thing we are missing from a nexus, as far as I can tell, is photoshpere. The devs for this phone are fantastic, so many roms to choose from. The size of the phone should not bother you. Oh yeah, the camera on the Note 2 blows away the Galaxy Nexus. I've had the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4, and the Note 2 when running an aosp rom is just as smooth as the Nexus 4, IMO.
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what rom you are running ?
Bn Waheed said:
what rom you are running ?
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I am what you would call a flashaholic. At the moment I'm running Hawkish rom with Perseus kernel. On the days I want aosp I either use Sentinel rom or ParanoidAndroid.
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My friend has a Gnex, He definitely likes the ability to change screentone but didn't feel huge difference between the two screens, He is quite happy with the gaming performance where he said even games like vector would sometimes have framedrop on the gnex, But he is soooo annoyed that we don't have 4.2 yet, he knows it's not an important update but the feeling that he actually needs to "wait" for the update is really annoying him, that alone is making him consider the Nexus 4
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My friend has a Gnex, He definitely likes the ability to change screentone but didn't feel huge difference between the two screens, He is quite happy with the gaming performance where he said even games like vector would sometimes had framedrop on the gnex, But he is soooo annoyed that we don't have 4.2 yet, he knows it's not an important update but the feeling that he actually needs to "wait" for the update is really annoying him, that alone is making him considering the Nexus 4
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That is my main fear! !
albsat said:
That is my main fear! !
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Touchwiz hurts my eyes but at least you have the "choice", my advice to you is to go for it at least you can install CM and switch back to TW,Just don't get it new, the Note 3 is on the horizon get a cheap note 2 for now, good luck buddy
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Touchwiz hurts my eyes but at least you have the "choice", my advice to you is to go for it at least you can install CM and switch back to TW,Just don't get it new, the Note 3 is on the horizon get a cheap note 2 for now, good luck buddy
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Touchwiz isn't so bad on gnote2. Put nova launcher to get rid of the eyesore on the home screens and the rest is OK.
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@rbiter said:
Touchwiz isn't so bad on gnote2. Put nova launcher to get rid of the eyesore on the home screens and the rest is OK.
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Coming from a Galaxy Nexus I personally couldn't stand Touchwiz for long. However AOSP roms are pretty much stable by now and almost everything is working correctly. That said the Note 2 is one of the best phones I've ever owned so I highly suggest it or waiting for the Note 3
albsat said:
That is my main fear! !
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Have no fear my friend. Like I said, I came from a nexus 4 running Paranoid Android. My note 2 running PA ROM is just as smooth and has every feature that the nexus 4 has minus photosphere. The devs that are working with the note 2 will most likely keep working on new ROMs for at least another year or 2, probably longer. You will not be dissatisfied with either the Nexus 4 or a Note 2. My personal opinion would be get the Note 2.
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Have come over to Note 2 from galaxy nexus..I really liked the gnex but couldn't stand the horrible camera and battery life.
I would say the better camera and brilliant battery life on the Note2 should be reason enough. Plus there is some great development work for Note 2 . So no fears. Using the Project AOSP v1.4 ROM by modstorm .. And this makes the Note2 almost perfect.:laugh:
i came over from the gnex too and the battery was terrible. The note 2 is pretty much better in everything. Only thing i preferred on the gnex was the position of the led notification
We may not be on the cutting edge when it comes to Android versions but we do gain several enhancements over stock. Better camera software, driving mode, voice control of apps, and multi window are my favourites. Smart stay and motion gestures seem more gimmicky to me although others my get value from them. Also I prefer having my toggles at the top of the notification window rather than in a separate box.
Oh then there is the micro sd slot, battery life, removable battery, and s-pen.
I don't miss my Nexus 4 one bit.
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my impressions after 1-2 weeks with note2 (vs gnex):
better:
- samsung-only (proprietary) features
- battery life
- reading PDFs in landscape possible at last (fonts at least for me in gnex were too small)
- FM radio!!! (last phone from sammy that supports this? such moron assumption that everybody now has/will have limitless data plans)
- much nicer for watching videos
- supernice camera, actually anything better than camera in gnex is supernice
- micro sd
- spen (sam ROM only, yeah i know about apps for aosp...still)
- removable battery (the same actually, just want to stress the fact it is there)
worse:
- samsung-only (proprietary) features, i.e they will never-ever be available for AOSP ROM (BIG ONE for me, means I have to stay on samsung ROM) or suffer tons of features in AOSP simply not there
- btw. camera because of this somehow reported to work a lot better in samsung ROM than AOSP
- touchwiz is a bit painful to use after AOSP, miss the flexibility/configurability of cyanogen...
- shape/size of gnex is ideal for my hand, this one is a bit too much, not a big deal though and apparently getting used to (BUT i will never use armor case, makes it simply far too big)
- unstable WIFI (lots of disconnects) in 4.1.2 by samsung, some fixes available currently testing one to revert 4.1.1 wifi stack (rooted phone needed)
- a bit more gimmicky rooting/custom recovery - not a big deal
- not worse but dont like: handwriting seems to work only with samsung keyboard app? sort of eliminates slide-it,swype etc... need to find some workaround...
- pockets: yeah defo a challenge to fit in shirt's pocket, barely fits in trousers' pockets
@yogi
Thanks man. This was exactly the necessary info needed before taking a decision.
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@yogi
Thanks man. This was exactly the necessary info needed before taking a decision.
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thanks, happy to hear...actually I just noticed note2 has also non-AOSP custom ROMs, which after gnex is kind of new category for me. What this seems to mean I will have the chance to get the combined samsung ROM + AOSP-type extra customization, one example seems Hawkish mentioned earlier on this thread -> sounds interesting, I will give it a try in next 1-2 weeks and can report here if you are interested?
I understand they're running the same hardware but with kitkat, I am generally unsatisfied with the note 10.1 even after running clean rom and nova launcher. I'm using a note 3 and it is insanely fast, I really don't understand why the 10.1 cannot run at the same pace.
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I understand they're running the same hardware but with kitkat, I am generally unsatisfied with the note 10.1 even after running clean rom and nova launcher. I'm using a note 3 and it is insanely fast, I really don't understand why the 10.1 cannot run at the same pace.
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I tested both devices.... and both are running really smooth..... I stayed with the note 10.1 .. and its awesome.... I debloated the stock rom... running energy saving mode all the time and have no lags delay whats so ever.....
The new note has abit less battery life than the old one... and the note 12.2 Has about the same as the old note...
Just to be clear youre talking about the note 2014? Since i can confirm that it really runs as fast as the note 12.2.....
Maybe you should revert back to stock rom..... customs roms are not always the way to go..... in my oppinion they are pretty useless if you have a device that has the latest firmware and stuff.... maybe take a look at what task are running at the background ... and disable any unneccary stuff with titanium.... it feels to me youre talking about the old note 10.1 2012..... or maybe you are just running a bad browser app or smth and wonder why your device is slow ... shoutout to firefox app .... maybe u can give more details about whats up
Greetings
Yes note 3 is fast ... note 10.1 Has less specs,.. but you dont really notice much difference in terms of speed... for normal usage.... dont know if youre running some kind of graphical things...
Chrome is a pain in the ass for the note 2014
kingofthebraves said:
Chrome is a pain in the ass for the note 2014
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From a N12 owner...
rkirmeier said:
Well I picked up a Note 12.2 (black/32GB) Friday and well have some mixed feelings considering the cost.
1. Need to root for more multiwindow apps
2. Chrome performance is still lacking - Googles fault, not Samsung's but figured raw performance would address it.
3. Really hate the physical home button and cap buttons more then I even thought I would. Why Samsung thinks this is a good idea beats me!
4. Really don't like that everything is scaled up in size for the larger screen. I realize it's the same resolution as my Nexus 10 but a DPI setting would have addressed this. Just makes it feel cheap and like it's for old people or kids. Need to root to change DPI...
5. Seems Samsung took big step backwards on some S Pen apps. The demos I watch for the previous Note devices work much better and more streamlined then on the Note 12.2. Really not sold on the S Pen and think mine is going back for a Tab Pro 12.2 if it's released soon otherwise maybe just a outright return.
6. Seems really stupid they hide the menu button under the multitask button (long press). I know many apps have a menu button but for those that do not this could really throw off a person who is not resourceful. This is the kind of crap that backs up the idea that an iPad is easier to use.
7. Definitely some random lag. Why does Samsung need to over bloat everything. stock Android fits in like 300MB and TW Android is like 8GB!
8. Very limited development activity!
I probably have more to say just not coming to mind yet. If I keep it I simply have to root in order to address the DPI and multi-window apps. It's an expensive device to give up warranty on... Only on day 3, we'll see how the next few go...
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Is the Google Now Launcher laggy for the G3?
I'm using it flawlessly on my Nexus 7 FHD, my dad uses on his S3 i9300 with Lollipop, also flawlessly.
But on my LG G3, it stutters and lag during transitions. Phone is overall snappy, and doesn't lag on Nova Launcher.
Does it happen with someone else?
It's a bit laggy for me too so I'm using Nova.
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It's a bit laggy for me too so I'm using Nova.
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I've a feeling this might be related to the resolution... But Nexus 6 uses the same resolution so.. I don't know
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I've a feeling this might be related to the resolution... But Nexus 6 uses the same resolution so.. I don't know
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Nexus 6 has a better CPU and GPU.
It laggy because its rubbish. Its like that on a number of devices, even some N5 owners are complaining about it.
Nova just updated to look like Google Now Lollipop launcher.
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Nova just updated to look like Google Now Lollipop launcher.
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Hell Yes! I'll have a look
Thanks for the info
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It'll do! Just wish Nova Launcher had the same Google Now integration =/
id say its down to the resolution and power of the phone
the nexus 6 is beefier than the g3, so can push the extra pixels
but to be honest, it varies between users. it hasn't been laggy for me at all other than when i have really low battery.
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id say its down to the resolution and power of the phone
the nexus 6 is beefier than the g3, so can push the extra pixels
but to be honest, it varies between users. it hasn't been laggy for me at all other than when i have really low battery.
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Yeah well, like, it does run good, but I feel it's not as fast and smooth as my Nexus 7. Sure, it's pure android after all.. But the G3 has way more hardware power..
I don't know. I'm too picky.
I liked the effects of GNL, but now Nova has it, so I couldn't care less anymore, lol
Tapatalked thru my sexy Nexy7
In my opinion it's impossible that a phone like our beloved G3 can't run a simple app drawer smothness like a Nexus 6 or 6P...
NEITHER setting CPU and GPU governor on performance and locking frequency at the maximum (2,4GHz and 500MHz) GNL app drawer lags... Everything else run lagfree... Only the app drawer of Google Launcher... Why?
I currently have an original Nexus 7, which I love but it's getting increasingly laggy and the battery is awful. Though I'm loathe to lose the lovely stock android interface, I'm considering getting a galaxy tab (with a few tweaks it should be bearable!) as they seem to be some of the best on the market at the moment.
The Tab S and Tab Pro (8.4) are both available at John Lewis for £249 and £199 respectively for the wifi versions, and I can't make up my mind which to get.
Any views on which is a better buy? Is the S worth the extra £50? I mostly use my tablet for media - videos, light gaming, news, reading, web browsing, that sort of thing.
I have an T800, but the fight was the same..
I was in the same dilemma, and tried both (S and Pro version).. my answer was obviously, Tab S!
Much slimmer, way better screen, feel good in hands.
You do have some aosp roms for t700.
All I can say about the Tab S is the screen! Truly awesome in which is why I chose this over the iPad. There is a hitch of lag on stock touchwiz. But installing an aosp ROM makes everything better
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Tab S!
I recently upgraded from Nexus 7 and i loved it, but i wanted something a little bigger with more storage and after trying Samsung Amoled screens there was no question on what to get. Its thin, light, fast and this screen is just amazing for videos. Im typing this on my Tab S 8.4
The main differences between the pro and the s are the scren types (lcd vs Samoled), the ability to use a digitizer pen like the note uses, ram (2GB vs 3GB) and assorted minor differences.
If video is your main thing then the Tab S is amazing. If you like games better the best is the Nvidia Shield (stockish android too). The pro wil do anything the tab S does just with pen support and a screen that while it is nice is just not as nice as the S.
Dose tab pro has stylus support like note ? ... I don't think so
I also upgraded from a Nexus 7 2012 to a Tab S 8.4 (also got from John Lewis).
I was running Liquid Smooth Unofficial on the Nexus 7 and am now running Liquid Smooth on the Tab S. Took about an hour to root, install rom, and restore apps via TB. The Tab S is a nice step up from the Nexus 7. As others have said the main difference is the screen. I prefer the AMOLED screen and the deep blacks. Other people prefer the "truer" colour representation of the LCD screen. Whichever you choose I'm sure you'd be happy with it. Maybe there's a place with both tabs so you can try side by side?
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I currently have an original Nexus 7, which I love but it's getting increasingly laggy and the battery is awful. Though I'm loathe to lose the lovely stock android interface, I'm considering getting a galaxy tab (with a few tweaks it should be bearable!) as they seem to be some of the best on the market at the moment.
The Tab S and Tab Pro (8.4) are both available at John Lewis for £249 and £199 respectively for the wifi versions, and I can't make up my mind which to get.
Any views on which is a better buy? Is the S worth the extra £50? I mostly use my tablet for media - videos, light gaming, news, reading, web browsing, that sort of thing.
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Wait to TAB S 2
Tab S is also first in line for OTAs (it has lollipop) and has some nice software enhancments
and xda has more support and roms for it.
Xperia Z3 Tab! Great Battery! I mean best battery for a tab! it lasts almost a week!
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All I can say about the Tab S is the screen! Truly awesome in which is why I chose this over the iPad. There is a hitch of lag on stock touchwiz. But installing an aosp ROM makes everything better
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What AOSP ROM did you use for your tablet?
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What AOSP ROM did you use for your tablet?
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Liquid smooth of course xD
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I have to say that S6 is a great phone, but: I hate Touchwiz and physical home button. As there's no way to get rid of the Touchwiz, I thought of buying a Nexus 5X.
What do you suggest?
No. You would lose about practically everything, except software, camera and fingerprint sensor. Maybe, S6->N6P would be a better choice.
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I bought a 5x around a month ago, switching from an s6. Although the hardware is a downgrade, I have to say the overall experience is way better. I love the freedom I get with a Nexus, and I'll never be able to get that with anything else on Verizon.
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Thanks, N6P is too big for me...
I've switched from s6 edge to n5x, the best choice I've ever made. If you don't care about premium material, don't even think about it.
I switched from my S6 flat to N5X.
I'm loving it... And the battery is awesome!
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I also just sold my s6 yesterday and ordered the 5x. S6 is a beautiful phone no doubt, but the experience on a nexus is worth it
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No. You would lose about practically everything, except software, camera and fingerprint sensor. Maybe, S6->N6P would be a better choice.
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Maybe you should think about the experience instead of specs ^^ And 6P is a phablet more expansive so that's not the same thing
They are many alternative launchers to eliminate your anti-touchwiz concerns. Even Google Now launcher is avail, which is what I did on my S4.
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dude hell yes, trust me. if you're like me and values the overall experience over just bland specs, you're going to be very happy with the switch.
Galaxy S6 had really ****ty software, memory management bugs, and crappy battery. Yes it looks nice with its all glass body but to me that was actually a minus because i was so scared to break it. Nexus 5x is better in every sense except maybe the custom samsung chip and the camera. And the pure software experience oh man this is were nexus 5x and even a nexus 5 has an edge over any samsung phone. Pure stock android is infinitely better than touchwiz in EVERY way. So much cleaner and faster. Bro buy an nexus 5x and you will never look back.
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They are many alternative launchers to eliminate your anti-touchwiz concerns. Even Google Now launcher is avail, which is what I did on my S4.
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Launchers do not eliminate touchwiz unfortunately, only the launcher aspect of it. I switched s6-->N5X and don't regret it the slightest. Only regret is that I didn't give the moto x pure a shot as I liked my 2013 and 2014 moto x quite a bit
I also made the switch from the S6E to the 5X and couldn't be happier. The 5X is just a more enjoyable experience, it doesn't heat up like the S6E did, the animations are smoother, endless runners like Sonic Boom 2 don't drop frames like it did with the S6E and the list goes on. Stock Android is where it's at.
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dude hell yes, trust me. if you're like me and values the overall experience over just bland specs, you're going to be very happy with the switch.
Galaxy S6 had really ****ty software, memory management bugs, and crappy battery. Yes it looks nice with its all glass body but to me that was actually a minus because i was so scared to break it. Nexus 5x is better in every sense except maybe the custom samsung chip and the camera. And the pure software experience oh man this is were nexus 5x and even a nexus 5 has an edge over any samsung phone. Pure stock android is infinitely better than touchwiz in EVERY way. So much cleaner and faster. Bro buy an nexus 5x and you will never look back.
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This guy said everything.
I'm loving my 5X... I use Android on my job and in my old S6 the battery sucks. I charged it 3 times per day..every single day. With the nexus I can finish a day of work...
And after all the nexus experience Is better... When u are tired about the UI u can flash a different ROM...
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You won't be disappointed by switching from the Galaxy S6 to the Nexus 5X. Mostly for the exact reasons you mentioned, no TouchWiz and no outdated physical navigation buttons. The battery life of the Nexus 5X is better but it isn't very good either. Although no phone has what I would call "good" battery life anyways.
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They are many alternative launchers to eliminate your anti-touchwiz concerns. Even Google Now launcher is avail, which is what I did on my S4.
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Replacing the TouchWiz launcher would be an improvement but it doesn't totally remove TouchWiz. TouchWiz goes way deeper than the launcher or even just the UI. Plus, installing a different launcher doesn't remove the TouchWiz launcher which I think still ends up running in the background so you may end up having the TouchWiz launcher still using some resources as well as the possibility that the new launcher doesn't preform very well(like Go Launcher and Nova Launcher).
Thanks guys, the pros are just the motives I would switch over to N5X...
But now I'm even divided between 5X and Moto X Force...
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gpvecchi said:
I have to say that S6 is a great phone, but: I hate Touchwiz and physical home button. As there's no way to get rid of the Touchwiz, I thought of buying a Nexus 5X.
What do you suggest?
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Come on! NO
install custom launcher
i think it s not fair to compare Galaxy S6 with N5X
I m not SammyFan. But there s lots of gr8 software and hardware features on S6
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Come on! NO
install custom launcher
i think it s not fair to compare Galaxy S6 with N5X
I m not SammyFan. But there s lots of gr8 software and hardware features on S6
from nice design to gr8 camera & ...
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You're not a Samsung fan? Lol. Might want to edit that post then. Haha.
Well, Touchwiz is not just launcher. It's a heavy Android modification that makes many mods incompatible. And the lack of Exynos source code not allows custom AOSP roms...
Gonna go over from a S6 to 5x in a couple of days when my phone arrives. S6 only beats the 5x in materials and camera, a 2gb ram will still be better than the 3gb in S6 with their ****ty ram management implementation that has been present since launch and no updates or even an acknowledgement forthcoming for it. Terrible for a flagship honestly.
I'm never gonna give samsung a chance again. S6 was my 1st samsung phone actually, their high prices for cheap materials and slow updates was what kept me back then, now they lost a customer for good. But their camera and the availability of various accessories is great although its not a priority for me.