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Thinking I May Return My Tab 3 8"

I'm pretty disappointed with the Tab 3. Seems very slow/laggy. In addition, there is zero development on XDA for the tab 3. I know this just came out in the US, but it has been out for months worldwide. I've had this tablet for a couple weeks, so it's not just a first impression at this point.....
Currently, very unstable root and recovery. No custom roms. No way to install scripts/intd.
I've had a Galaxy 3 phone for about a year and love it. My phone runs circles around the Tab 3 in terms of responsiveness, processing......pretty much everything actually.
Am I getting a unique experience with my Tab or is everyone noticing the slow, dragging, instability of this tab? Size and screen are great, but do not outweigh the performance issues in my book.
Anyone else returned/exchanged their Tab 3? If so, what did you return it for? Thinking about going w/ the new Nexus 7, but there are a lot of options out there....please help!!!!!!

Weird. I had the nexus 7 2, the note 8, and now the tab 3 8. I don't think the tab is slow at all. Granted I don't play games, but overall I think its quite responsive and solid all around.
But I've seen a few complaints about how awful it is so it seems people have vastly different experiences.
Did it get slower over time? What are you doing when it lags? Did you install a ton of weird stuff?

rumatt said:
Weird. I had the nexus 7 2, the note 8, and now the tab 3 8. I don't think the tab is slow at all. Granted I don't play games, but overall I think its quite responsive and solid all around.
But I've seen a few complaints about how awful it is so it seems people have vastly different experiences.
Did it get slower over time? What are you doing when it lags? Did you install a ton of weird stuff?
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Not at all. I don't play games on it or anything that requires heavy cpu usage. Just basic navigation is very slow. Is your tab rooted?
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arshull said:
Not at all. I don't play games on it or anything that requires heavy cpu usage. Just basic navigation is very slow. Is your tab rooted?
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Nope not rooted.

Yeah I wish I could return mine at this point the asus memo 7 hd seems like a much better choice for 50 less than this thing.

arshull said:
I'm pretty disappointed with the Tab 3. Seems very slow/laggy. In addition, there is zero development on XDA for the tab 3.
Currently, very unstable root and recovery. No custom roms. No way to install scripts/intd.
Am I getting a unique experience with my Tab or is everyone noticing the slow, dragging, instability of this tab?
Anyone else returned/exchanged their Tab 3? If so, what did you return it for? Thinking about going w/ the new Nexus 7
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I owned a Nexus-7 2013.. Took it back on the 15th day.. (Walmart) They're a lot of issues going on with the N7.. GPS being the main one.. And there are some bad ones out in the field.. So be warned. I was lucky and got a good one, but it just did not justify the price (32 Gb) $294.00 out the door.. for the size of the Tablet for me.. I also own an iPad Mini.. and the 7" Screen of the N7 just was not cutting it for me after being exposed to the 8" 4:3 Screen of the iPad Mini for the last year or so.. The N7 just seem too small.. lots of development for it.. but for me they were the same ROMs I was running on my recently sold Galaxy Note.. so they were Quite Boring and offered nothing new. Then I spotted this Tablet and the Beautiful Saturated Colors and it's 8" Screen won me over on 1st sight.. You got a bad Tablet.. You should just do a Factory Reset Wipe everything and go back to how the Tablet was when it came out of the box. if it's still laggy.. Return it and try another Tab 3 8.0 or something else. Mine was fast out of the box .. is now rooted and still smokes.. have you tried a different launcher? have you gone into developer options and adjusted your animations for faster response...?
rumatt said:
Weird. I had the nexus 7 2, the note 8, and now the tab 3 8. I don't think the tab is slow at all. Granted I don't play games, but overall I think its quite responsive and solid all around.
But I've seen a few complaints about how awful it is so it seems people have vastly different experiences.
Did it get slower over time? What are you doing when it lags? Did you install a ton of weird stuff?
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No issues with my Tab 3 8.0 either..
mirrin said:
Yeah I wish I could return mine at this point the asus memo 7 hd seems like a much better choice for 50 less than this thing.
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I think this is about the Tab 3 "8.0" but you are correct... the Asus would be a better choice when comparing to the Tab 3 7.0.. IMO..
Sell what you got for $150.00... Then buy the Asus.
You are still cutting someone a deal if your unit is still in "Like New" Condition..

Speed
Mine is rooted and still is quite responsive.
Speed wise it was not as fast as the Note 8.0 but it is only dual core!
Ran Antutu on Note 8.0 and tab 3 before buying tab 3 8.0
note was 16,000 and tab 12,000
Where as my mtk6569 Note 5.5' clone came in at 16,138.
my old mtk6575 was around 9,000 from memory. But it has gone to the gods RIP.

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Speed wise it was not as fast as the Note 8.0 but it is only dual core!
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This is potentially misleading. It's the same clock rate processor. For many tasks the Tab 8 is just as fast as the Note 8. Exactly the same speed.
Where a quad core will shine over a dual core is when you're trying to do lots of stuff at once. The main area I noticed a difference is something like loading a huge web page and trying to scroll while it's still loading. Lots of stuff happening at the same time there so more processors makes a clear difference.
But for basic, one at a time tasks where there's not much parallelism to be found, there isn't much noticeable performance difference.

I don't know if the '8 is that much different, but my tab 3 10.1 is among the speediest i' ve ever used(tablets)
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8.4 or 10.1?

I'm looking at the galaxy tab pros as my next tablet, I'm trying to decide between the 8.4 or 10.1. I currently have a transformer tf700, so I'm used to 10.1, but I'm thining the smaller 8.4 being lighter may be more comfortable to use (I've always thought 7" tabs were too small, but 8.4 may be my sweet spot). My main uses are videos, comic books, and browsing.
Does anyone with experience have any opinions? It looks like the 10.1 has a better processor and maybe a better battery. If i get the 8.4 and decide its too small i can always exchange, but thought i would ask here to see if anyone has played with both and their thoughts (i had limited exposure to them at best buy but they are tethered to the displays so really hard to get a feel for them).
Thanks!

I picked up the 8.4 and while it's perfect for me...it probably won't be for you. Browsing and comic books are REALLY small on the 8.4 inch screen, given that the resolution is so high. A lot of the apps do not allow for the system to override the tiny fonts, so it's tough to deal with sometimes. It's perfect for what I need it for...twitter, RSS feeds and some web browsing but if I was looking at magazines or comics, I'd pull out my iPad Air.

dbdynsty25 said:
I picked up the 8.4 and while it's perfect for me...it probably won't be for you. Browsing and comic books are REALLY small on the 8.4 inch screen, given that the resolution is so high. A lot of the apps do not allow for the system to override the tiny fonts, so it's tough to deal with sometimes. It's perfect for what I need it for...twitter, RSS feeds and some web browsing but if I was looking at magazines or comics, I'd pull out my iPad Air.
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That was what I was afraid of. The app I use on my transformer allows resizing of the page, so I resized to what I measured out to be an 8.4" screen size and it still appeared very readable, but I'm not sure how accurate of a representation that really was.

mattbooty said:
I'm looking at the galaxy tab pros as my next tablet, I'm trying to decide between the 8.4 or 10.1. I currently have a transformer tf700, so I'm used to 10.1, but I'm thining the smaller 8.4 being lighter may be more comfortable to use (I've always thought 7" tabs were too small, but 8.4 may be my sweet spot). My main uses are videos, comic books, and browsing.
Does anyone with experience have any opinions? It looks like the 10.1 has a better processor and maybe a better battery. If i get the 8.4 and decide its too small i can always exchange, but thought i would ask here to see if anyone has played with both and their thoughts (i had limited exposure to them at best buy but they are tethered to the displays so really hard to get a feel for them).
Thanks!
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I have the Note 2014 and the 8.4. The Note is similar to the Pro 10 without KK. I had the Nexus 7 and the 8.4 is the sweet spot because the Nexus was a bit to small. The Note 2014 is great but not as easily portable. As far as speed of processors, the Exynos is slightly faster CPU and the Snapdragon 800 has a bit better GPU. They are very close speed wise.

nrage23 said:
I have the Note 2014 and the 8.4. The Note is similar to the Pro 10 without KK. I had the Nexus 7 and the 8.4 is the sweet spot because the Nexus was a bit to small. The Note 2014 is great but not as easily portable. As far as speed of processors, the Exynos is slightly faster CPU and the Snapdragon 800 has a bit better GPU. They are very close speed wise.
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I'm thinking since i know what a 10.1 is like I'm going to grab the 8.4 with the idea that i can try it out and if I'm unhappy with the smaller size i can exchange it for the 10.1. If i just get the 10.1 i'll always wonder if the 8.4 would have been better.
Thanks!

mattbooty said:
I'm thinking since i know what a 10.1 is like I'm going to grab the 8.4 with the idea that i can try it out and if I'm unhappy with the smaller size i can exchange it for the 10.1. If i just get the 10.1 i'll always wonder if the 8.4 would have been better.
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That's a pretty good strategy...one I always live by with technology. Let us know how it turns out!

dbdynsty25 said:
That's a pretty good strategy...one I always live by with technology. Let us know how it turns out!
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Will do. I'm not sure my time frame on picking it up yet, but when I do I will post my impressions.

How much of a difference will the 2GB vs the 3GB of Ram be between the 8.4 and 10.1? I'm about to the get the 8.4 but I just wanna know if anyone has had the opportunity to check this between the two devices...
And where did everyone get their 8.4? Best buy or amazon or somewhere else offer a better deal?

10.1 also has 2gb ram. Only the 12.2 has 3. I'm used to the 3 in my note 3 so I notice a slowdown
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I just wanted to update this thread as I said I would. I grabbed the 8.4" last night and so far I'm impressed. The screen seems about the perfect size for comics, yes 10" more closely resembles and actual size, but at 8.4 i can still read everything fine, but its much easier to hold. Very happy so far!

mattbooty said:
I just wanted to update this thread as I said I would. I grabbed the 8.4" last night and so far I'm impressed. The screen seems about the perfect size for comics, yes 10" more closely resembles and actual size, but at 8.4 i can still read everything fine, but its much easier to hold. Very happy so far!
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I've had, just recently, the Note 2014, Note Pro 12.2 and now the Tab 8.4 Out of them all I prefer the tab 8.4. The 2014 seemed was neither that portable or easy to hold. The screen wasn't so large that it made it worth it either. The Note 12. 2 screen was amazing, but it was impossible to get used to due to it's size . You really needed it on a desk, but why not just use a laptop if you're going to do that? I want to hold my tablet ...if I am going to have one.
Which leaves the 8.4. Very light, easy to hold either way. PPI is off the charts. The only thing I am not fond of is 16gb storage and less than stellar battery, but for this size you cannot have everything. So you know there is a but with External SD cards on these new Sammy devices.

I have an SD i put most of my stuff on anyways for my old tablet, so I'm just going to keep using it which should eliminate the storage as any issue. I haven't had it long enough yet to see how the battery stacks up.

I have both and both are great tablets it really comes down to what size you want
I am going to keep the 10.1 and return the 8.4 tomorrow
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golfinggino said:
I have both and both are great tablets it really comes down to what size you want
I am going to keep the 10.1 and return the 8.4 tomorrow
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I also have both. 8.4 will be a keeper. 10.1 is a little big and awkward. Plus 8 feels a little snappier.

10.1 have Better battery life,8.4 very bad

Does anybody know of a 32gb 8.4 coming out? Or even a 32gb 10.1?
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Is a Tab Pro 10 worth for a Nexus 10 replacement ?

I got an original Samsung 10.1v in the past and was decently pleased with it, then I moved to a Nexus 10. Screen is great but it lags quite a lot now and I'm considering to get a Tab Pro 10 to replace it, as the future of the Nexus line seems uncertain.
I really fear TouchWiz but on the other hand, 4.4 AOSP isn't great for a 10 inch tablet either and I actually think that some of the tweaks Samsung implemented in TouchWiz could be helpful.
Is it worth the upgrade ? I'm also concerned about the lack of custom roms for it, if I'm referring to the current state of roms in these boards.
Thank you !

I have a tab 12.2 pro and I'm very happy with it. TW isn't as laggy as some people made it out to be. Could be smoother but it honestly doesn't interfere with my use for it (browsing, video watching, gaming, etc.)
Development for the tab 10.1 and 12.2 wifi pros are pretty slow right now with all the focus mainly on the 8.4 (there's now a custom rom for the 10.1). All in all, I think you'd be pleased with it coming from the nexus 10.

I still have my N10, the 12.2 is much faster, brighter screen, battery life is much better and charges much faster as well.
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I to am/have been a Nexus fan. I choose the tab over the N. Would love to have the HDMI out on the nexus, but just couldn't go without the extra storage with the sd card. Phone storage was not an issue but want to be able to have movies and music vids and games that you wouldn't necessarily use or want on the phone.
Oh yeah, I just bought the 10.1 pro today, just finished rooting it. Gonna go see about xposed now.
And I forgot to turn off auto update in the play store b4 letting it connect. Had to update all those crappy apps don't even use. I hate when that happens. thankfully we have titanium bu.

[Q] Tab Pro 10.1, Tab S 8.4 or Ipad Air ?

Hi,
I'm going back and forth with this..
I have a budget around $400 to $450... and I basically want to use the table as a replacement of the laptop for basic stuff ( browsing, FB, youtube, videos, movies, email, etc). I like how IOS look right now, my mom has an ipad retina display and look and feel good, but my budget allow me to but the 16gb one... and isn't enought since I'm planning to copy movies on the table and watch them... beside ipads doesnt allow me to watch movies on divx, xvid, mkv, etc... I had to converted to mp4 and thats a hazzle...
I was thinking on buying the Tab Pro 10.1 because of the size, the screen definition and the battery life... but now that the Tab S is around the corner I don't know what to do... I don't care about the fingerprint... the Super Amoled is a nice touch (I have a galaxy S4) but the screen on the Pro look good enought for me... the selling point for me is the extra GB of ram...I don't know if is really work it to pay extra for that GB of ram (assuming that I can go up to $500 for the galaxy S 10.5) or paying the same as the Pro 10.1 ($400 on amazon) for the Galaxy S 8.4 and downgrade the size of the screen...
What do you guys say? Ipad air ($450), Pro 10.5 ( $400), S 8.4 ($400) or S10.5 ($500). Paying an extra $100 for 1GB of ram seem pricy to me if the feeling and performance is similar of the 2gb pro 10.1.... but I don't know if the cost/benefit is really good?

I bought a Tab Pro 10.1. It's not perfect, but I'm pretty happy. Obviously it's what I would do, since it's what I did. Just make sure Tha at you are comfortable doing a root... Of course that's the case with any android device.
Good luck!
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Well, you could save yourself some money by buying the iPad as a refurb straight from apple. It comes down to the ecosystem and os that you prefer. Is ios nice? Sure. But does it work for you? Do you struggle with the 2gb of ram in your phone today? If not then I wouldn't worry about the 2 vs 3gb of ram. If you're worried about ram, I'm pretty sure iPad air only has 1gb.
I've tried 2 different ipads and I keep coming back to android. I just started using a tab 8.4 today and it's smooth. If you keep a ton of apps open at once then it may get laggy, but I'd imagine the iPad would have the same issues. The iPad air has what seems limitless keyboards, cases...while there are significantly less for the tab pro. I think the s line is going to have Samsung accessories.
Don't forget the real file browser, micro sd, USB support, and vast selection of keyboards on androids. You can't really go wrong with any of them, all nice devices. Pick the he one that fits your budget and hits your biggest priorities.

I have a tab pro 8.4 and it is a really good tablet. I am considering getting the pro 10.5. I've also thought about an iPad air too, so I am in a similar situation. I do love the fact that the iPad has a plethora of keyboard case options. Supposedly with the S Series Samsung is going to get more Keyboard cases. Logitech has already announced one for the 10.5.
I am probably going to go with the pro 10.5. If you have a micro SD card it is really simple to expand the storage in which the iPad would not be able to do. If you already have purchased apps on your Android phone, it's much easier just to use an Android tablet then using an iPad and paying more money for apps you already have.
That's how I work things out in my head anyway.
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I am a long time user of apple , I think apple lost me after the 4S, the closed ecosystem is terrible in my view. So I switched to nexus 5 and never looked back. On tablet I bought the tab 8.4 , and put aside my iPad retina . I last week upgrade it to iOS 8 , and have to say I'm disappointed and not impressed . so I'm still loyal to my macbook on the PC side. But as far as tablet and phone no question in my mind that you get better value and better ecosystem in an android device. I also didn't root my tab, only put on it Google now lquncher and I love it , love the density and sharpness of the screen
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Jumping in the thread :
So I got 7 and 10.1 tablets in the past. They both have their strengths and weaknesses but I would like to have your opinions on the 8.4/10.1 Pro more specifically.
By default, I'd go with the 10.1 for the bigger screen and battery especially as it seems quite light, especially in comparison to my past 10.1 devices.
However, the 8.4 seems to have more ROM support and looks more powerful. Plus, the 8.4 format allows a better grip with one hand. But I'm afraid the battery won't hold as much as I want to.
So, here my questions :
- Is there any work done on CM11 for the 10.1 ?
- How comfortable is the 10.1 to hold ?
- Is the 8.4 really much more powerful and snappy ?
Thanks !

DannyBiker said:
Jumping in the thread :
So I got 7 and 10.1 tablets in the past. They both have their strengths and weaknesses but I would like to have your opinions on the 8.4/10.1 Pro more specifically.
By default, I'd go with the 10.1 for the bigger screen and battery especially as it seems quite light, especially in comparison to my past 10.1 devices.
However, the 8.4 seems to have more ROM support and looks more powerful. Plus, the 8.4 format allows a better grip with one hand. But I'm afraid the battery won't hold as much as I want to.
So, here my questions :
- Is there any work done on CM11 for the 10.1 ?
- How comfortable is the 10.1 to hold ?
- Is the 8.4 really much more powerful and snappy ?
Thanks !
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You need to be more specific on the 10.1... For the 10.1 LTE (sm-t525 aka picassolte) CM11 is coming along nicely but for the WiFi only 10.1 (sm-t520) there is no known work on it for CM11.

I was thinking about the Wifi version, sorry. I forgot that the LTE model is also Snapdragon and benefits, I guess, of the work done on the 8.4.

Acutally, I need my tablet for some productivity as well. Mostly, taking meeting notes on the go. Is the 8.4 screen big enough in landscape to do so ?

[Q] Thinking about getting a Tab S 10.5

Hello,
I'm thinking about buying a Tab S 10.5 to replace my HP Touchpad.
I recently got a brand new Galaxy S4 phone and was kind of disappointed with the lack of ROM options and that I am limited to using Safestrap as a recovery. Are there similar limitations with the Tab S 10.5 if I were to buy a new one today?
How would you guys compare the 10.5 Tab S to the new Nexus tablet?
Thanks,
ClockerXP

The tab s is different from the nexus is the screen. The tab s has an amoled screen which is way better than nexus. Well if you get the WiFi version of the tab s... We have a cm11 ROM, bliss stalk ROM based on cm11 and a few stock debloated ROMs. We also have one kernel for the tab s 10.5. We also have twrp, and philz recovery. The limitations of this tablet is that we get slight lag in apps like chrome. But battery life on this tablet is awesome and even better with a custom kernel. I once got 9 hours screen on time of watching movies with a custom kernel tweak for battery savings. The tab s should last 8 or 7 hours screen on time.
Another limitation is development. There are more developers on nexus tablets vs samsung tablets. We don't know if anymore developers buy this tablet. But if your happy with cm11 then we have it and most things work.
Another bad thing is touchwiz. Samsung put their own skin into most tablets like these and takes for ever for us to get an update. Touchwiz also lags too.

I'm not looking to have a ton of rom options but would like to have CM available for a while and a nice stock debloated one available. Specifically lollipop versions. Do you think I'll be disappointed?
Thanks,
CxP

Probably not for the tab s. The nexus 9 already has lollipop and a ton more ROMs. I'm not sure if the nexus 9 has cm12 yet. Best to check there first For the tab s were gonna have to wait a bit for a staple cm and lollipop build.

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Probably not for the tab s. The nexus 9 already has lollipop and a ton more ROMs. I'm not sure if the nexus 9 has cm12 yet. Best to check there first For the tab s were gonna have to wait a bit for a staple cm and lollipop build.
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I'm fine waiting as long as it comes eventually!

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I'm fine waiting as long as it comes eventually!
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Yeah lollipop will come! Most likely a developer will make a stock debloated ROM when it comes out.

I actually bought both to compare side by side. I will be honest, the SAMOLED screen is eye-popping. By default the color calibration is set to oversaturate a bit. That said, the SAMOLED even in basic mode still blows the nexus 9's screen away. And then there's the better resolution. However, I prefer the Nexus 9's aspect ratio. I do more browsing than video watching on my tablet and 4:3 is perfect for this. Also, nexus 9 is buttery smooth, even on stock. The speakers are also way better.
So it comes down to this: what do you plan on doing with your tablet? Videos = Tab S. Hands down. Browsing/reading = Nexus 9, so much more comfortable and literally ZERO lag. Games... Either one, though that Kepler GPU is awesome.\
I'm obviously sticking with the Nexus 9 and returning the Tab, though I know that I will really miss that screen sometimes.

The micro SD slot is important to me. I'm glad I went to the store to try them out because now I think I am going to go with the Tab S 8.4. The 10.5 just seems too big and I don't like the position of the home button on the long end of the screen. The 8.4 is great in the hand as well.
Thanks guys... I think I'm going to watch for a good deal on a Tab S 8.4.
CxP