How can ZendroKat be got run without needing an SD card? Even in NAND version, kernel is loaded from sd (maybe recovery, too) - how can everything be transfered to internal memory and run from there?
Maheshwara said:
How can ZendroKat be got run without needing an SD card? Even in NAND version, kernel is loaded from sd (maybe recovery, too) - how can everything be transfered to internal memory and run from there?
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Impossible without modifying FOTA or partition table (need to rebuild kernel).
And you'll get no external storage, not sure android can run without external storage.
Uhhhh, this means there is not any "real" NAND version of Android for Samsung Wave??? What do I need a NAND ROM, if I need a SD card anyway? Do not understand that...
Maheshwara said:
Uhhhh, this means there is not any "real" NAND version of Android for Samsung Wave??? What do I need a NAND ROM, if I need a SD card anyway? Do not understand that...
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Full nand, nope, except if you change some lines of code, not a big deal but it need sources.
Loop rom (virtual partition on Nand), don't need sdcard (look at Badadroid.)
Does this loop ROM need Bada? Or is it independent?
Maheshwara said:
Does this loop ROM need Bada? Or is it independent?
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Yes, it need bada 2. But, its dual boot, so you can run both android and bada side by side.
Maheshwara said:
Does this loop ROM need Bada? Or is it independent?
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TheBasterd said:
Yes, it need bada 2. But, its dual boot, so you can run both android and bada side by side.
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In fact, it don't really "need" bada (at least what is in nand), but it just need bada partition layout. You can install badadroid if your nand is formated with 3 fat partition, like in bada, you can also install it with any partition scheme if you change some lines of code in kernel. (It doesn't improve anything but you can have badadroid without bada on your phone, useless i know )
BenzoX said:
In fact, it don't really "need" bada (at least what is in nand), but it just need bada partition layout. You can install badadroid if your nand is formated with 3 fat partition, like in bada, you can also install it with any partition scheme if you change some lines of code in kernel. (It doesn't improve anything but you can have badadroid without bada on your phone, useless i know )
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But, I think it is much better to have bada 2 as well, because the alpha android ROMS are not optimised to be daily drivers and hence it is much better to have dual boot. Dont you agree? SD Roms and Badroid are really cool for that reason.
TheBasterd said:
But, I think it is much better to have bada 2 as well, because the alpha android ROMS are not optimised to be daily drivers and hence it is much better to have dual boot. Dont you agree? SD Roms and Badroid are really cool for that reason.
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Android is ready for daily use except it has crappy battery life. But it's of course better to have bada as a backup system.
You can have badadroid only but it's (almost) pointless.
BenzoX said:
Android is ready for daily use except it has crappy battery life. But it's of course better to have bada as a backup system.
You can have badadroid only but it's (almost) pointless.
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True, the battery life is very poor, and installing apps takes ages!
You can have badadroid only but it's (almost) pointless.
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Hmm.., then which ROM are you using? The other one that cannot be named?
TheBasterd said:
True, the battery life is very poor, and installing apps takes ages!
Hmm.., then which ROM are you using? The other one that cannot be named?
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ICZen SD, Badadroid v4.4 and Bada Turko v10.2. Maybe i'll try android 4.4.3 rom by nima.yavari (it's badadroid based)
BenzoX said:
ICZen SD, Badadroid v4.4 and Bada Turko v10.2. Maybe i'll try android 4.4.3 rom by nima.yavari (it's badadroid based)
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I thought ICZen SD and Badadroid v4.4 did not have compatible FOTA and bootfiles with each other .
TheBasterd said:
I thought ICZen SD and Badadroid v4.4 did not have compatible FOTA and bootfiles with each other .
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Bootfiles are the same, and Fota just change kernel location, default boot and key combination.
Related
1/ Please could someone do me a guide, of how to setup my 8gb sd card.
2/ Whats apps i need from the Market store to run them
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3/ A link if possible for the application for my HTC desire.
Just a little confused, i have a rooted phone, and stock / Market fixed rom
installed running froyo 2.2 (which is excellent. )
I would be very greatful.
Many Thanks
Sean
1: backup all data on the SDCards as it will be wiped
2: if it is not already in the ROM - install ROM Manager: http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/tools/rom-manager_fjxs.html
3: use Rom Manager to partition the SDCard. (I use 'no swap' and 512MB EXT3)
4: put the data that you backed up in step 1 back on the SDCard
5: install a ROM that supports app2sd. All ROM cooks publish if whether their ROM supports apps2sc or apps2sd+
5: reinstall all your apps. They will now be installed on the SDCard until that runs out of space.
6: done.
I have rooted my htc desire with Goldcard, installed Involkd image for recovery
do i need to run any scripts or anything to get the apps2sd to work, i currently have Market fixed rom installed, as like to keep it as close to the org rom as possible,
So if the apps2ds is not installed with the rom were can i download this from, please you give me a link,? so i can flash this to the phone. also how do i use that rom manager, what is no (Swap)
Many Thanks for the help.
tapperace2010 said:
do i need to run any scripts or anything to get the apps2sd to work
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No. On booting the phone will link the memory on the SDCard to your internal memory, so the phone thinks it is loading all apps in internal memory, while it is actually stored on the SDCard.
tapperace2010 said:
i currently have Market fixed rom installed, as like to keep it as close to the org rom as possible,
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This ROM does not support App2sd. If you want to stay close to the original AND use apps2sd, use a ROM like NextSense: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742371
tapperace2010 said:
also how do i use that rom manager, what is no (Swap)
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On creating an extra partition on your SDCard, the Rom manager will ask what size the swap part needs to be (I used 0) and what size the EXT3 (I used 512).
tapperace2010 said:
Many Thanks for the help.
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No problem.
This Rom seems to be very unstable, i want a rom close to the org as possible, but also to include apps2sd, or a download for app2sd how to guide please.
I love the one i got, as its hardly been messed with, bloatware drives me crazy, if its
not broke do not fix it.
Thanks
Tapper
Has all the problems with Sense rom been fixed.
Is their anyway i can update the rom i have, with the Apps2ds added to it, or do it has to be embedded into the rom.?
Also when you say ext 2 3 4, do i need to format my sd card 1st. and if so how to format in the phone or by a program from the market, ie : what you suggested before.
Thanks
Tapp
tapperace2010 said:
This Rom seems to be very unstable, i want a rom close to the org as possible, but also to include apps2sd, or a download for app2sd how to guide please.
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Just try them all. I used NextSense for a while (5.1) and for me it was very stable.
New ROMs come out every day, so just try a couple of them and see which work well for you.
At this moment I use WhiteXperience 2.0 which does not use sense, so I do not use Sense at this very moment. Btw.: WhiteXperience 2.0 is extremely fast with low batery use. For me this is more important than Sense.
With Rom Manager you can quickly create a full backup of your ROM with all the apps and data. So, create a full backup, install a new ROM, play with it for a few hours and either keep the new ROM or restore the old ROM.
This way you can quickly test a new ROM and see if it does what you need.
tapperace2010 said:
I love the one i got, as its hardly been messed with, bloatware drives me crazy, if its
not broke do not fix it.
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That is the reason I use WhiteXperience, since it is based on CyanogenMod 6.
But again it is not based on Sense, which is what you want.
tapperace2010 said:
Is their anyway i can update the rom i have, with the Apps2ds added to it, or do it has to be embedded into the rom.?
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I have not tried that. I have only tried ROMs that support Apps2sd.
But then again, just try it out: http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-appstosd2-qBx.aspx and let us know if this works for you.
However, since Froyo uses another way of storing apps in SD, you might end up with an unstable system.
tapperace2010 said:
Also when you say ext 2 3 4, do i need to format my sd card 1st. and if so how to format in the phone or by a program from the market, ie : what you suggested before.
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After the partition has been created you end up with a formatted, empty SDCard. So no prior formatting is necessary.
tapperace2010 said:
This Rom seems to be very unstable, i want a rom close to the org as possible, but also to include apps2sd, or a download for app2sd how to guide please.
I love the one i got, as its hardly been messed with, bloatware drives me crazy, if its
not broke do not fix it.
Thanks
Tapper
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I've tried most of them if not all and NexTSense 5.3 is by far the most stable and best Rom on here. It's almost as stock as they come with Apps2sd installed. I think the only app changed is google maps to the slightly better brut version.
Define unstable? Most roms require a clean wipe before installing.
I agree with sbdags. NextSense is absolutely stable and, if you want Sense, this Rom would be the best choice to try out.
Hi guys i am a COMPLETE NEWBIE to android rooting (recently sold my iPhone 4 and got a desire at a SUPER-DUPER bargain price lol) I've rooted with unrevoked but haven't had time to burn the alpharev to do the S-OFF etc.
What can I do with a bog standard stock ROM'd Desire?
Every reply appreciated...as said I really have no idea from here what I can customise etc.
Thanks a lot guys
ScRiVs said:
Hi guys i am a COMPLETE NEWBIE to android rooting (recently sold my iPhone 4 and got a desire at a SUPER-DUPER bargain price lol) I've rooted with unrevoked but haven't had time to burn the alpharev to do the S-OFF etc.
What can I do with a bog standard stock ROM'd Desire?
Every reply appreciated...as said I really have no idea from here what I can customise etc.
Thanks a lot guys
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Flash new ROMs
If you want Android 2.2 and Sense then try LeeDroid - very fast and very stable !
If you want to try Gingerbread before its officially released on the Desire then im finding GingerVillain excellent for day to day use
Rooting will allow certain apps more access..... and allow things like a nandroid backup.
Suggest you try ROM Manager from the market - will allow nandroid backup (ie a FULL backup of your phone in case you screw anything up). It also makes ROM flashing very easy
Apart from that.... "what can you do ?" ... try all the launchers and apps available .... LauncherPro is great, as are all the "GO" apps. Im on Launcher7 at the mo but have also tried SPB shell.
The great thing about android over apple is that you can tweak pretty much anything. try a new dialer or a new keyboard and you can always revert back to the original ...
Basically perform a nandroid backup and then play to your hearts content
.... oh ... and try the UOT Kitchen if you really want to play at customising .... looks scary at first but really isnt
wilbur-force said:
Flash new ROMs
If you want Android 2.2 and Sense then try LeeDroid - very fast and very stable !
If you want to try Gingerbread before its officially released on the Desire then im finding GingerVillain excellent for day to day use
Rooting will allow certain apps more access..... and allow things like a nandroid backup.
Suggest you try ROM Manager from the market - will allow nandroid backup (ie a FULL backup of your phone in case you screw anything up). It also makes ROM flashing very easy
Apart from that.... "what can you do ?" ... try all the launchers and apps available .... LauncherPro is great, as are all the "GO" apps. Im on Launcher7 at the mo but have also tried SPB shell.
The great thing about android over apple is that you can tweak pretty much anything. try a new dialer or a new keyboard and you can always revert back to the original ...
Basically perform a nandroid backup and then play to your hearts content
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Thanks a million mate.
EDIT never mind it was telling me to install it!
Gonna have a browse on this ROM manager which looks to be a fantastic app!
***one more thing***
I want to download "InsertCoin" rom through the rom manager app and theres 4 versions on there:
InsertCoinS BETA 2 A2SD
InsertCoinHD 2.0.0
InsertCoinHD 2.0.0 DATA2SD
InsertCoinHD 2.0.1 DATA2EXT
Which one do i go for buddy?
ScRiVs said:
Thanks a million mate.
Just downloaded ROM manager and it's giving me the prompt make sure you have "ClockWorkMod Recovery" installed or something...how do i know if i have that mate?
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Its the top menu option in ROM Manager - Flash clockwork recovery
Once thats done you should be ok to install ROMs or perform backups straight from ROM manager
wilbur-force said:
Its the top menu option in ROM Manager - Flash clockwork recovery
Once thats done you should be ok to install ROMs or perform backups straight from ROM manager
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Take a look at my EDIT mate
*********HELP***********
I just tried to backup my stock rom and it seems to have crashed on a black screen with a little android guy and a triangle with an exclamation mark??????? :|
ScRiVs said:
Take a look at my EDIT mate
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hmmm. dont know with that particular ROM. I tend to download ROMs separately and the use ROM Manager to flash from SD
Try looking at the thread in the Android development subforum and it will tell you which does what. There are various flavours of app to SD solutions.
One more thing you might want to do is use ROM Manager to create an EXT partition on your SD card - this will allow apps to be stored there and save system memory. Backup anything vital on your SD card first (on your PC) though. And when it asks go for the largest partition you cam - you will fill it
(its the Partition SD Card option in ROM Manager)
wilbur-force said:
hmmm. dont know with that particular ROM. I tend to download ROMs separately and the use ROM Manager to flash from SD
Try looking at the thread in the Android development subforum and it will tell you which does what. There are various flavours of app to SD solutions.
One more thing you might want to do is use ROM Manager to create an EXT partition on your SD card - this will allow apps to be stored there and save system memory. Backup anything vital on your SD card first (on your PC) though. And when it asks go for the largest partition you cam - you will fill it
(its the Partition SD Card option in ROM Manager)
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Just tried to partion the SD and it's crashed on the Triangle android screen AGAIN ...What am i doing wrong is there something missing? cause its not working
ScRiVs said:
Just tried to partion the SD and it's crashed on the Triangle android screen AGAIN ...What am i doing wrong is there something missing? cause its not working
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hmmm. not seen that happen before. ive had the exclamation mark occasionally elsewhere (press power to get rid).
You could parition using GPARTED (if you are a linux user) or Parition Wizard (for Windows). a few people have problems with partition wizard but ive used it OK.
You an flash without partitioning but you lose some of the the benefits of App to SD apps.
Google 'android partition SD' - there seem to be lots of other ways to do this (which i havent tried)
wilbur-force said:
hmmm. not seen that happen before. ive had the exclamation mark occasionally elsewhere (press power to get rid).
You could parition using GPARTED (if you are a linux user) or Parition Wizard (for Windows). a few people have problems with partition wizard but ive used it OK.
You an flash without partitioning but you lose some of the the benefits of App to SD apps.
Google 'android partition SD' - there seem to be lots of other ways to do this (which i havent tried)
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Found a fix in a thread on here all i had to do was clear download cache and everything is working now...im currently downloading a rom...do I need to partion the sd card before using a custom rom or?
Just wipe/factory reset and clear cache in recovery.
Then flash the rom (install .zip from sd card)
If we talk about partitioning it depends on which ROM you wanna use.
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k3lcior said:
Just wipe/factory reset and clear cache in recovery.
Then flash the rom (install .zip from sd card)
If we talk about partitioning it depends on which ROM you wanna use.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Right i've got insertcoidhd 2.0.0 running fine on my desire now and i have just partioned my sd card how do i get apps2sd now?
ScRiVs said:
What can I do with a bog standard stock ROM'd Desire?
Thanks a lot guys
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Have you tried setcpu yet?
Also you can take screenshots of your phone screens if you're into that kinda thing.
Look for shoot me in the Market.
App2SD
If the InsertCoin ROM has Apps2SD+ (Not totally sure if it does) and you have the ext partition then as far as I am aware it should pretty much take care of itself.
I personally have found the Redux 1.1.1 ROM to be the best one that I have used so far. It is a GingerBread ROM and with the EXT partition done all you need to do is apply the apps_dalvik2ext-UNSIGNED
.zip to use the extra memory.
Search for Redux throug this site.
You will not regret the move.
ScRiVs said:
Right i've got insertcoidhd 2.0.0 running fine on my desire now and i have just partioned my sd card how do i get apps2sd now?
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Awake again now .....
download quick system info from the market. that should show you whether apps2sd is working.
you dont have to 'do anything' to get apps2sd working. if you have the right partition, and the ROM supports it, then apps will install there rather than on internal memory (although most apps still require a small amount of internal memory).
wilbur-force said:
Awake again now .....
download quick system info from the market. that should show you whether apps2sd is working.
you dont have to 'do anything' to get apps2sd working. if you have the right partition, and the ROM supports it, then apps will install there rather than on internal memory (although most apps still require a small amount of internal memory).
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app2sd seems to be working
Oh and setcpu is awesome
Any other recommended root apps i get guys?
How do i wipe EVERYTHING from the phone to get the full 32GB of space?
I dont care about updates, when updates come out, i usually do an RUU from the HTC website anyway. i never do OTA. I have my ROM i want to flash and its only 2GB in size, but after everything is said and done, when i look in storage, theres 12GB already used with nothing on the phone.
Quadrider10 said:
How do i wipe EVERYTHING from the phone to get the full 32GB of space?
I dont care about updates, when updates come out, i usually do an RUU from the HTC website anyway. i never do OTA. I have my ROM i want to flash and its only 2GB in size, but after everything is said and done, when i look in storage, theres 12GB already used with nothing on the phone.
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You are aware of the fact that those 12 gb are the system itself, aren't you? Sense has never been one of the lighter operating systems.
Flippy498 said:
You are aware of the fact that those 12 gb are the system itself, aren't you? Sense has never been one of the lighter operating systems.
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What do you mean "system" though? when i wipe, there should be nothing on the phone at all until i flash my ROM?
Quadrider10 said:
What do you mean "system" though? when i wipe, there should be nothing on the phone at all until i flash my ROM?
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Oh, you meant that the 12 gb are used before you flash your rom? Then I missunderstood you. I thought you meant the 12 gb that are used by android and sense after flashing a rom (independet whether its a stock or a custom one).
It is allocated.
Flippy498 said:
Oh, you meant that the 12 gb are used before you flash your rom? Then I missunderstood you. I thought you meant the 12 gb that are used by android and sense after flashing a rom (independet whether its a stock or a custom one).
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Yea. Like if I use all the wiping options in twrp, then go into file manager, I can still see files. Like not everything pass being wiped.
Quadrider10 said:
Yea. Like if I use all the wiping options in twrp, then go into file manager, I can still see files. Like not everything pass being wiped.
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And have you already tried installing a rom and after that verifying whether you still "miss" 12 gb besides of the 12 gb that are then used by android and sense. I could imagine that fernandezhjr is right and that the 12 gb are simply allocated so that there is always enough free space to install a rom.
Flippy498 said:
And have you already tried installing a rom and after that verifying whether you still "miss" 12 gb besides of the 12 gb that are then used by android and sense. I could imagine that fernandezhjr is right and that the 12 gb are simply allocated so that there is always enough free space to install a rom.
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I guess it has to be just allocated space then.
anyone know if can i use my ext2sd partition as mount as "fake internal memory" like in CM12.1 donno if is buildin in the rom or script ( then i dont need to use 3rdparty app)
i look everywhere , just very old post 2006-8 that saying its impossible
Thanks
Of course you can. Give it a try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974972
Me Too
I Need A kernel For CM11 as like as mike CM12.1 Partition layout
Superrman said:
anyone know if can i use my ext2sd partition as mount as "fake internal memory" like in CM12.1 donno if is buildin in the rom or script ( then i dont need to use 3rdparty app)
i look everywhere , just very old post 2006-8 that saying its impossible
Thanks
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pablo7890 said:
Of course you can. Give it a try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974972
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rasoooli said:
Me Too
I Need A kernel For CM11 as like as mike CM12.1 Partition layout
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Try this MOD - it's for CM11.0 - [MOD]{CM10.1}{CM10.2}{CM11}{AOSP}Working Int2Ext for Xperia 2011 [ART-compatible]
Take a backup before trying.
yurasik_687 said:
Try this MOD - it's for CM11.0 - [MOD]{CM10.1}{CM10.2}{CM11}{AOSP}Working Int2Ext for Xperia 2011 [ART-compatible]
Take a backup before trying.
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thanks
so far work i choose ART and installed the zip file via recovery now i've got 2GB
instead of 300MB
but some apps are gone.. ill try to reinstall, and ill give it some test time, maybe it will better then link2sd
Superrman said:
thanks
so far work i choose ART and installed the zip file via recovery now i've got 2GB
instead of 300MB
but some apps are gone.. ill try to reinstall, and ill give it some test time, maybe it will better then link2sd
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Which build of CM11 do you use?
You enabled ART after installation of the script or before?
yurasik_687 said:
Which build of CM11 do you use?
You enabled ART after installation of the script or before?
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i change to ART in DEV menu
then the device restarted i entered to recovery and install the script
it somewhat abit faster... booting and apps what i've test so far.. still have to reinstall lots of apps
make nandroid(via recorery) and titanium backup before trying
i use CM11 from may 2015.05.10
because it works i maybe try the recent CM11
(Link2SD dosnt worked there at all)
my titanium backup was abit old (3 weeks) now my whatsapp missing some history
and titanium dosnt let me extract from nandroid (Get stuck)
i think i might restore and use the dalvik version, if i fail to restore my apps
Superrman said:
i use CM11 from may 2015.05.10
because it works i maybe try the recent CM11
(Link2SD dosnt worked there at all)
i think i might restore and use the dalvik version, if i fail to restore my apps
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Ok, thanks a lot!
If i understand right, you flashed script without clean install (dev wrote in manual - Flash the script BEFORE the first boot) and it worked?????
I think, dev means "clean install" - That is probably because not all apps will work after flashing script on working ROM.
had problem with gapps...(forced closed) i restored my backup >_<
took to much time,so.. i give up for now. didnt want to try clean installation and install ART gapps
update working untill 5.10 and only ART version working
so it wont so helping cuz i cant update
rasoooli said:
Me Too
I Need A kernel For CM11 as like as mike CM12.1 Partition layout
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@Mardon
Can anyone Build this Kernel
i have a problem with my phone i have this storage/emulated/0/storage/emuated/0/....
if you deleted it errase all files even the micro sd :crying:
somebody have the same problem?
Did you flash a CM based rom ?
The "O" folder is an emulated partition used in the file management system of android...
Some roms and OS versions require this folder...so deleting it within a software that requires it would obviously be bad....g
gregsarg said:
Did you flash a CM based rom ?
The "O" folder is an emulated partition used in the file management system of android...
Some roms and OS versions require this folder...so deleting it within a software that requires it would obviously be bad....g
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all stock not even root
You have marshmallow ??
If yes.....leave it....required
gregsarg said:
You have marshmallow ??
If yes.....leave it....required
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no 5.1
Checked mine on 5.1 after flashing back today ....I've got the folder as well....
Bone stock RUU....
Looks official....g
It all changed at 4.3. Dalvik got binned and art was invented.
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