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I have a problem with the newest version of the Dungeon Defenders on froyo. It was smooth and stable under 2.1 but the os was crappy, so i updated to the 131, then to the 145 and after the 34.4.9 US official froyo during the past few weeks, but the problem remained on every version. Sometime the game is fully playable for hours, sometimes it freezes the whole phone, or extremely slow right after i start the game and almost impossible to quit (0.01 FPS) and i have to remove the battery. Other games like Dungeon Hunter are always good and the the problem never occured, but Sygic Aura(a GPS software) sometimes produces the same problem. The phone is rooted but not overclocked.
Anyone else experiences the same or my phone is faulty? Thank you in advance!
I have exactly same problem in 2.2.1 with any 3D application (kwaak3, raging thunder). Killing all apps with Advanced Task Killer makes phone smooth again without reboot, but all 3D applications are unusable.
After some searching i still haven't solution.
This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826507 isn't working, neither this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008645
After exiting problematic application CPU usage is 0%, but phone is choppy and unresponsive.
i have downgraded back to eclair and everything is good. The cpu usageis 0% but the IOW is realy high. That is why the phone is choppy. I have tried every froyo rom from 107 to 164 and none of it is working right for me. I dont know that the problem is because of the beta firmware or our phone is faulty? But if it is goog under eclair it cannot be faulty? Isnt it?
This problem has been reported even with the official/unofficial current Motor release of 2.2
Try a stock rom withou blur, 3.4.2-155-002.
With blur, many games lag, don't start, or crash while playing. Tested in stock 2.1, 3.4.3-11, with blur. If you test in stock 3.4.2-155-02, you will see the difference.
I'm in barebones 1.4 now, playing all my games, overclocked and undervolted ([email protected], [email protected], [email protected] 75 threshold).
The best game to test your Defy is Asphalt 6, if this game run, all other will run too (Dungeon Hunter II tested too).
I have done a little bit of build.prop tweak and I found it reduced the problem slightly (doesn't eliminate). Very rarely for games to lag now, but still exists in Google Map, only if you navigated a wide region.
dalivik.vm.heapsize=30m
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dalivik.vm.heapsize=40m
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=70
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windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60
**currently using 34.4.9, this also worked on 34.4.4 (t-Mobile)**
The results are obtained from trail-n-error. Not very scientific, but you could give it a try and post some feed back. Thank you.
Problems start appearing some time after phone reboot, but for now everything runs fine. Thank you very much for posting this !
i think i found the solution or at least some kind of workaround for dungeon defenders running on froyo. when the game starts lagging (in most cases in lobby) just press the home button und return to homescreen, slide a few times and return back to the game and it plays smoothly and laggfree as if nothing ever happened. works for me everytime. hope it does for you too.
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Unfortunately problem is still there, maybe its little bit better with teruyume's tweak. I found thread about this bug in official motorola forum, so let's hope someone can solve it.
Caleb_cz said:
Unfortunately problem is still there, maybe its little bit better with teruyume's tweak. I found thread about this bug in official motorola forum, so let's hope someone can solve it.
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did you try my trick?
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did you try my trick?
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Yes, but phone is very choppy after bug appears, sliding in homescreens is almost unpossible.
Because the problem occurs for me not only in Dungeon Defenders I think it has to be a known bug to motorlola nad dont release the the update this buggy. Editing the heap is a good idea i will test it tonight and reports how it is works.
i edited the build prop and tried the home screen trick bot none ofthem helped.. i am on 3.4.2-155. going back to eclair agan
You guys now something? i tried DefyFroyoSense and Dungeon Defenders was COMPLETLY smooth. Smoother than on 2.1. This ROM is magic.
sometimes it is smooth for a couple hours. But once it starts to lag i cannot make it to work right once again only just by restarting the phone. but i will try that sense rom
Since I'm a fairly new user here I cant post to the development section I'll post my bug reports here.
ROM: WhiteRabbit 1.5.2
clean installation with beatsaudio, motorola defy red lens GB kernel.
(*)FC on miui music player when choosing a file to play.
(*)false pairing on A2DP headset, says its paired yet i cant control or hear anything from the phone, music is still played through speaker.
(*)Default messaging app hides the "Enter" button on keyboard (other apps keyboards are fine).
(!) Reinstalling (not clean) without the beatsaudio (default CM7) solves the FC and A2DP pairing issues.
Hopefully this thread will be just moved into the development thread.
I had many issues with the 2.3.6 version!!
when the battery got below 26% and I tried to open any rooted app they would not open as they would get errors.
I had a few other errors and things I didnt like but I cant remember them ATM wether they where program conflicts (or lack of programs or services I choose not to install) I am not sure.
I thought it was really good, but the lack of some things put me off it and I liked the go launcher but I can put that on any ROM!.
I now run CM7.2 latest by quartx with V6 supercharged and cant be happier. Fast enough and battery usage is minimal with using the power control panel and everything turned off apart from 3G. Got rid of JuiceDefender now and just use the control panel I can turn things off and on when I like on the main screen so no hassles
I've had the Tab S 10.5 for about a month now and the lag while using everyday apps is driving me crazy. My top three offenders are:
1. Chrome
2. Play Newsstand
3. Play Store
I've done the following to help improve things:
- Changed launcher to Nova.
- Disabled bloatware (everything I can without rooting).
- Installed Chrome Samsung support library.
3D heavy games seem to run fine. My last tablet was a HP touchpad running CM11 so I am used to dealing with a few quirks. I stepped up to the Tab S to get away from some of that though. I know Android is infamous for scroll stutter, but it seems to me that a flagship tablet should easily beat out a bootleg touchpad.
Is this on par? Also, does anyone else's tab s get really hot around the touch screen near the Samsung logo? Maybe the Nexus 9 is worth another look. :silly:
Thanks for your comments.
Edit: I've read similar posts on lag. It seems like the argument boils down to: 1. Personal perception or 2. A mysterious "bad batch" of hardware.
i did the same steps,my tab is full of apps and games but i have 0 lag and the browsing is also fcking smooth. In the settings i also turned of features like dual window.
Are you sure you turned off fully power saving mode? About heating,if i play a game like gta or hearthstone i can also feel a warm area under samsung logo but is not hot and pretty common if you play games.
edith and use chrome beta instead of the standard chrome
Chrome lags on the tab s. Happens to most people. To fix over heating i installed a custom kernel that would optimise and prevent heating. Some big games do lag aswell.
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i did the same steps,my tab is full of apps and games but i have 0 lag and the browsing is also fcking smooth. In the settings i also turned of features like dual window.
Are you sure you turned off fully power saving mode? About heating,if i play a game like gta or hearthstone i can also feel a warm area under samsung logo but is not hot and pretty common if you play games.
edith and use chrome beta instead of the standard chrome
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I am already using chrome beta. The stock broswer is smoother.
can you upload a video to see the lag we are talking about?
I want to buy this tablet, and Ive read many posts about lag... but actually, is it very annoying? is there any video to see it?
Latiosman said:
can you upload a video to see the lag we are talking about?
I want to buy this tablet, and Ive read many posts about lag... but actually, is it very annoying? is there any video to see it?
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Only on certain apps. Chrome and a few others. On some games it just lags on loading screen but not during gameplay. Watch a veiw reviews on youtube. Theres some videos talking about the lag. Touchwiz launcher also has lag but can be fixed.
Latiosman said:
can you upload a video to see the lag we are talking about?
I want to buy this tablet, and Ive read many posts about lag... but actually, is it very annoying? is there any video to see it?
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I think it depends on your perception of lag and what apps you mainly use. In my case, Chrome and Newsstand are always up so I see the lag constantly. I wish I had a Nexus 9 side by side for comparison. If I get a chance I'll take a video, but it might be hard to see. I played with a demo model at Best Buy and it seemed faster than mine as well.
I came from a iPad mini 2 (last year's model) to this tablet. As smooth as my iPad was I have to say I have very little if any lag on mine. It's runs beautifully for me. I'm OCD, any bit of lag would drive me up the wall. I really don't notice hardly anything. I'm still running bone stock everything minus using Nova launcher. Don't even feel like I need to root or flash anything. Although I'm going to once there is a root released for my model. Maybe I'm just lucky I don't know. Have had zero issues.
I'm used to an overloaded gs3 so this looks ultra smooth to me [emoji3]
It lags more with multiple user logged in, always reboot of you don't need the additional user
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I came from a iPad mini 2 (last year's model) to this tablet. As smooth as my iPad was I have to say I have very little if any lag on mine. It's runs beautifully for me. I'm OCD, any bit of lag would drive me up the wall. I really don't notice hardly anything. I'm still running bone stock everything minus using Nova launcher. Don't even feel like I need to root or flash anything. Although I'm going to once there is a root released for my model. Maybe I'm just lucky I don't know. Have had zero issues.
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For example, this thread's website lags a great deal in chrome beta when scrolling. Other sites aren't too bad. Newsstand is the worst though. Are you using the stock broswer?
This site does lag a little when scrolling. That I do have to admit. For whatever reason it doesn't really bother me however. I've never noticed any scroll stutter on stock android so I attribute it to touchwiz. This thing debloated or running a custom rom probably flys. I imagine any scroll stutter would be gone at that point.
I use the stock browser. I was never a fan of chrome. I know that on touchwiz your going to get the best performance from the stock browser unless there's a fix I'm unaware of which could be a possibility. Newsstand I actually haven't used so I can't speak for it. TouchWiz is just eating up so much ram. I'm like always at 1.5 to 2 gigs of ram with nothing running (other then the tons of unnecessary system apps I can't terminate) That is pretty ridiculous to me. Is touchwiz smooth as stock android? Definitely not. But I really have little to no lag other then scroll stutter on certain sites. I'm still going to root and debloat this thing when it's available for my model so I can truly experience the power of this tablet.
Lol, chrome sucks
It's about time Samsung optimised their flagship device. Had 3 since July and they all lag, stutter when scrolling and render pics poorly. Nova didnt fix the problems and changing some apps like using chrome beta marginally helped.
About time they fixed this via an update rather than just forget about the device and launch more/different models. Samsung will always fail unless it focuses on a core product set and spend the time making the hardware work properly with the software.
I was attacked when I first got my first device for stating lag. Whether an first time user or someone who doesn't want to root (glad I didn't after having 3 replacements), I shouldn't have to kill apps, install different roms and root.
Certain other OS fix problems like these quickly. Where's support from Samsung??
I have the note 4, their es8000 led TV, fridge freezer and various other bits so I'm not a Samsung hater by any means, just someone who expects upgrades to fix problems.
It's hard to determine how much lag is there until you run the same apps side by side with another tablet.
Over Xmas I got a chance to do just that. Ran S 10.5 side by side with my sister's nexus 7 2013. Both running kit kat (hers is 4.4.3 instead of 4.4.2).
Play Store and chrome both run smoother on hers, less jerking and stopping when scrolling. Tapatalk about same. She has Google now launcher, feels faster and smoother than nova launcher on mine. Overall, every thing just feels a little smoother and more fluid.
Granted, the nexus is 1920x1200 so it's pushing fewer pixels around, but the nexus is one year older and I paid $179 for it vs $379 for the S.
I think Samsung slapped on the OLED display and said heh, good enough. Which is true because I bought it
Custom Rom?
I made a rom that is all stock, just a few optimisations. Better performance, better batterylife and so on, here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/prerooted-stock-touchwiz-rom-t2973107
I'd use only stock browser, if it had a full screen option and some gestures, but nope.
My alternative browser is maxthon pioneer, it has everything but stutters a lot
I've had my S 10 since August....I don't like chrome, never have, but after reading all this I opened chrome and came to this forum and I see no issues at all. NONE, other than I don't like chrome
I'm stock not rooted or ROMed. I have Apex launcher installed since day one and disabled all the Samsung and google bloat I could disable.
I have no issues with this tablet other than posting on some forums is a little quirky but that's just the way things are. I normally use Dolphin with the Jetpack or Boat Browser for tablet.
I love this tablet! Sure beats the stuffing out of my Asus TF700T! What a total POC that is!
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I'd use only stock browser, if it had a full screen option and some gestures, but nope.
My alternative browser is maxthon pioneer, it has everything but stutters a lot
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I just throw in a wipe cache once every few days, and stock browser experience is very smooth, even with the second account logged on, with Facebook, dropbox, carousel and plenty other services in background
Don't worry about the Lag
This lag on Tab S is only temporarily, the Android 5.0 will get rid of 90% of the lag. I know this for fact because I have Note 3 with Touch-wiz it lags often, after installing Android 5.0 I have NOT ONCE run into lag after 1 month of using it.
As of now, the Tab S is supporting android 5.0 cm 12 which there should definitely be no lag but again its unofficial ROM as of now, there are still things they are working on. Samsung's android 5.0 will get rid significant amount of lag, because Android 5.0 have 60 fps animation smoothness, and efficient RAM usage.
I've also heard rumors Samsung is working to refreshing their Touchwiz Interface with slim amount of lag. So, the future is promising.
As of now, if you really can't stand the lag, Install the Android 5.0 ROM for Cm 12, there are afew things not working in their such as Camera, NFC or something else, but the usage should show NO LAG!!!
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As of now, if you really can't stand the lag, Install the Android 5.0 ROM for Cm 12, there are afew things not working in their such as Camera, NFC or something else, but the usage should show NO LAG!!!
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Cyanogenmod for Galaxy tab S??
ive installed this rom and found that there are quite a few bugs in it which are :
1. Proximity sensors turn display off but still tender to function which results in notification panel opening and calendar app popout.
2. Many apps dont seem to work after installation and FC is thrown.
3. Dialer doesnt function all the time and not able to call to people after the OS runs for an hour.
4. NOT ABLE TO RECIEVE CALLS , as the person calling gets a SWITCH Off feedback from operator ( very annoying)
5. Calling is a major bug in this and is not advisable for far travellers
6. Annoying soft reboots when multiple apps are open and you're multitasking with them (3 apps trigger this)
Pros : amazing fresh Ui, lollipop tag and amazing kernel that offers Interactive governor. Rest is pretty much the same.
Conclusion : new build of lollipop 5.0.2 hence the bugs. I would just wait for a few more days or weeks for a better and improvised version comes out
Now switched back to miui v6 6.3.2.0 by syhost and is the most stable and perfect OS for redmi 1s right now.
Please go through other threads before posting a review. Except for the first bug, every other bug u said works flamelessly.
Stop scaring people with wrong info. First learn to flash properly.
I had flashed to rom twice and had downloaded two different times each file, and had confirmed the same with my friend.
The apps that throw FC in my test were BOOM BEACH, BUS SIMULATOR, REAL RACING 3.
No wrong info provided. If you don't get it then you're lucky.
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Plz write correct review this not review this your problem .... Call working ... App working fine ... I have open up to 15 app no problem and no lag
Greetings.
In hopes of finding someone who's facing a similar problem, I'd like to ask you about a certain issue.
I've installed the Xperia Play Z Ultimate Edition rom on my Xplay r800i. It's running all cool and great, but there's one problem. The apps are closing for no reason. It's like, one moment you're playing a game, and all of a sudden the main screen appears, as if you pressed the home button, but the app is gone. It looks like they're crashing when the phone is under heavy load. It happens to literally everything. Even Messenger bubbles often disappear when there's a new heavy app starting.
I've searched the rom's thread, but didn't find any information about such problem.
If this matters, I've flashed the kernel that was supplied by rom creator - 480p DoomKernel.
This is the first rom I've seen which has an issue like that, and I don't think there's any alternative, as this is the only ICS rom I know that keeps all of Xplay's core features while significantly improving speed and functionality.
Please help. Does anyone know why this happens?
Update: out of frustration, I've changed to another ICS rom, Honami 2.1.3, together with switching to a Lupus V7 kernel (ram version)... and the same thing happens. Although with the new rom my phone's performance seems to have DRASTICALLY improved, apps are still closing for no reason. There's not even a popup or error, or anything like that - it just pulls the plug and suddenly kicks me to the main screen.
This problem renders heavy games literally UNPLAYABLE. It runs perfect for like 5 or 10 minutes, with high framerate even, then out of a sudden BAM - back to the main screen. No error, no nothing.
Browsing around Lupus settings I've found something called Low Memory Killer. From what I understand, this thing kills the apps when the device is on critically low memory. Maybe this is the cause? And if it is, why the heck is it "going rogue" and killing apps that I'm ACTIVELY USING? How do I configure this? I assume you can't just disable it...
Please help.
Seriously? No one has ANY IDEA what's happening? Please help! I literally have no clue what may be causing this.
Switched to YET ANOTHER rom and kernel - Nexplay, with bundled Lupus kernel, this time also changing the firmware to R800i_4.0.2.A.0.58_Enhanced. With this one, the phone runs definitely the fastest, but guess what... same thing happens as before. Games commit suicide when played for too long. Out of all I've tested, the only ones that don't shut down are OpenTyrian and Nes emulator. Gun Bros worked fine for like 5 minutes, and suddenly closed, working very slow for like 2 seconds before it happened. Same thing with Vendetta Online but this one outright REBOOTED THE PHONE! And these games supposedly are optimized for xplay, so it doesn't make any sense why there's such a problem going on...
I'm starting to wonder if maybe it's because I'm using ICS roms? But then, I've never seen anybody reporting such problems with ANY rom. This definitely isn't a common issue. I'm also using Link2SD, but again, I've never seen anyone mentioning it causing anything like that.
I can relate to your problem. I've experienced the same (apps randomly closing while in use) issues 1 or 2 years ago and to me the development on these roms are dead since the developers have moved onto newer devices. Currently my xperia play is dead (bricked) however with experience of using many of the roms i can safely say that ICS is not meant for the xperia play. Sony themselves didn't officially release ICS for this device due to the number of bugs and problems associated with it. I'd recommend you to use GB roms to bring out the best potential of your device. ICS lags some way or another whereas GB doesn't. All games run smooth on Gingerbread and they certainly do not have issues like ICS does. The best rom for this device is Gin2kitkat ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631144 ) and my personal favourite Xperia NXT 2 r1 (i've used this rom the longest). Here's the link for that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649368
From experience, as long as you use a Gingerbread rom you should be good to go as they are the most stable for our device. Good luck
Aaw, that's a real bummer. The problem with GB roms is that there's a lot of ICS apps and games that I really need. One of the main reasons I've decided to unlock bootloader on this device is because I wanted to get an upgrade to ICS. It's really strange. I've seen people play advanced games on this phone (example) and there are no signs of problems such as the one I'm experiencing.
Thanks a lot for your reply. I guess I'll use one more ICS rom, and if that fails, I'll give GB roms a try.
Btw, what do you think about NXT Gaming rom? I don't care much about flashy UI and widgets, and as long as everything in the phone works (camera, xLoud etc.) priority for me is gaming performance, and from description, this rom seems to be the most aggresive I've seen when it comes for optimizing performance for games.
I agree, from the vid the user is seen to be running the ROM "ICS Ultimate". Also i haven't tried the NXT gaming rom only the NXT 2r1 but regardless, with that rom i've been able to play emulator games and heavy intensive games such as Fifa 2012. I'd only imagine the 'NXT Gaming rom' is faster and better but since i haven't tried it, i'm unable to give you a direct response, sorry. Anyways Gingerbread will always be the best in terms of gaming performance and functionality, but if you're able to find a good ICS rom that is smooth when playing games such as GTA then it's entirely up to you whether you want to stay on ICS or not. Also correct me if i'm wrong but i remember GTA3 (not san andreas) being playable on gingerbread.
Correct, GTA3 DOES work on Gingerbread, but unfortunately only this one and Vice City do so. GTA San Andreas and Chinatown Wars will not work on anything lower than ICS. This is an example anyway, cuz there are few more things that I need and will work only on ICS.
Anyways, guess what. I've tried YET another Rom from a portuguese site (rom is Fusion ICS 2.4), and the problem stopped - apps no longer spontaneously shut down. There's another problem though... as this system is ridiculously unstable. Sometimes it's fast as lightning, then sometimes it slows down to a crawl for no reason - it has nothing to do with active apps; it often happens with no active apps running and with tons of free ram available. It's completely random. Even the interface sometimes crashes for no reason. Curiously though, all games run extremely fast and they never shut down on their own. Unfortunately, it's not worth using such a train wreck. Games running well while the rest of the system goes haywire defeats the purpose for me.
I'd give "ICS Ultimate" rom a try, but for some reason, I get virus alerts when trying to download or open the file. I guess I'll either wait until it's confirmed false alert, or go for GB roms finally.