I have a problem with the newest version of the Dungeon Defenders on froyo. It was smooth and stable under 2.1 but the os was crappy, so i updated to the 131, then to the 145 and after the 34.4.9 US official froyo during the past few weeks, but the problem remained on every version. Sometime the game is fully playable for hours, sometimes it freezes the whole phone, or extremely slow right after i start the game and almost impossible to quit (0.01 FPS) and i have to remove the battery. Other games like Dungeon Hunter are always good and the the problem never occured, but Sygic Aura(a GPS software) sometimes produces the same problem. The phone is rooted but not overclocked.
Anyone else experiences the same or my phone is faulty? Thank you in advance!
I have exactly same problem in 2.2.1 with any 3D application (kwaak3, raging thunder). Killing all apps with Advanced Task Killer makes phone smooth again without reboot, but all 3D applications are unusable.
After some searching i still haven't solution.
This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826507 isn't working, neither this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008645
After exiting problematic application CPU usage is 0%, but phone is choppy and unresponsive.
i have downgraded back to eclair and everything is good. The cpu usageis 0% but the IOW is realy high. That is why the phone is choppy. I have tried every froyo rom from 107 to 164 and none of it is working right for me. I dont know that the problem is because of the beta firmware or our phone is faulty? But if it is goog under eclair it cannot be faulty? Isnt it?
This problem has been reported even with the official/unofficial current Motor release of 2.2
Try a stock rom withou blur, 3.4.2-155-002.
With blur, many games lag, don't start, or crash while playing. Tested in stock 2.1, 3.4.3-11, with blur. If you test in stock 3.4.2-155-02, you will see the difference.
I'm in barebones 1.4 now, playing all my games, overclocked and undervolted ([email protected], [email protected], [email protected] 75 threshold).
The best game to test your Defy is Asphalt 6, if this game run, all other will run too (Dungeon Hunter II tested too).
I have done a little bit of build.prop tweak and I found it reduced the problem slightly (doesn't eliminate). Very rarely for games to lag now, but still exists in Google Map, only if you navigated a wide region.
dalivik.vm.heapsize=30m
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dalivik.vm.heapsize=40m
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=70
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windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60
**currently using 34.4.9, this also worked on 34.4.4 (t-Mobile)**
The results are obtained from trail-n-error. Not very scientific, but you could give it a try and post some feed back. Thank you.
Problems start appearing some time after phone reboot, but for now everything runs fine. Thank you very much for posting this !
i think i found the solution or at least some kind of workaround for dungeon defenders running on froyo. when the game starts lagging (in most cases in lobby) just press the home button und return to homescreen, slide a few times and return back to the game and it plays smoothly and laggfree as if nothing ever happened. works for me everytime. hope it does for you too.
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Unfortunately problem is still there, maybe its little bit better with teruyume's tweak. I found thread about this bug in official motorola forum, so let's hope someone can solve it.
Caleb_cz said:
Unfortunately problem is still there, maybe its little bit better with teruyume's tweak. I found thread about this bug in official motorola forum, so let's hope someone can solve it.
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did you try my trick?
derbestimmer said:
did you try my trick?
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Yes, but phone is very choppy after bug appears, sliding in homescreens is almost unpossible.
Because the problem occurs for me not only in Dungeon Defenders I think it has to be a known bug to motorlola nad dont release the the update this buggy. Editing the heap is a good idea i will test it tonight and reports how it is works.
i edited the build prop and tried the home screen trick bot none ofthem helped.. i am on 3.4.2-155. going back to eclair agan
You guys now something? i tried DefyFroyoSense and Dungeon Defenders was COMPLETLY smooth. Smoother than on 2.1. This ROM is magic.
sometimes it is smooth for a couple hours. But once it starts to lag i cannot make it to work right once again only just by restarting the phone. but i will try that sense rom
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My DHD is like 2 months old and I admit that it has lots of apps on it. it started to lag and I found out that turning the usb debugging on solved the problem and everything is smooth and fine but after I root it with visionary v14 it started to lag badly in sometimes and it will never return normal unless I restart and I never turn fast boot on. So then I used ADW launcher. It reduces the lag but not that much. Then at last after reading forums I found out that flashing buzz kernel is one solution so I tried it and it succeed to reach up to 1.5Ghz and solves the lag problem. Everyone in the forum said that it runs really smoothly and has no problem but for my phone, after 2 days, it freezes and restart and then just now when I was charging, it started to freeze and one way to get out of it is to pull out the battery. What is wrong with my DHD? it seems that I have one of the slowest DHD it scored only 1700 on quadrant standard at 1Ghz. please help me...
thanks in advance
anyone can help me?
Try installing osmonitor or any task manager, try to look at each process, identify which ones are busy using the cpu..
Alternatively, try turning off auto-sync..
Ive installed all of them and my auto-sync is off. when I open my osmonitor, everything is 0% except the os monitor and the android system...
thx for the reply though
craze96 said:
Ive installed all of them and my auto-sync is off. when I open my osmonitor, everything is 0% except the os monitor and the android system...
thx for the reply though
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Forgot to mention, i read somewhere that the sd card can sometimes cause lags.. i dunno.. for me, i had it last time when i use stock sense.. turning usb debugging on reduces the lag, but it still there.. now i just use cm7, smooth as a butter..
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My DHD is like 2 months old and I admit that it has lots of apps on it. it started to lag and I found out that turning the usb debugging on solved the problem and everything is smooth and fine but after I root it with visionary v14 it started to lag badly in sometimes and it will never return normal unless I restart and I never turn fast boot on. So then I used ADW launcher. It reduces the lag but not that much. Then at last after reading forums I found out that flashing buzz kernel is one solution so I tried it and it succeed to reach up to 1.5Ghz and solves the lag problem. Everyone in the forum said that it runs really smoothly and has no problem but for my phone, after 2 days, it freezes and restart and then just now when I was charging, it started to freeze and one way to get out of it is to pull out the battery. What is wrong with my DHD? it seems that I have one of the slowest DHD it scored only 1700 on quadrant standard at 1Ghz. please help me...
thanks in advance
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it could be the undervolt in the buzz kernel that's causing the instability and reboots .... it did for me btw i have over 500 apps on my phone and it runs fine (apart from sence fc'ing if i try to use my phione too soon after boot) lol
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Forgot to mention, i read somewhere that the sd card can sometimes cause lags.. i dunno.. for me, i had it last time when i use stock sense.. turning usb debugging on reduces the lag, but it still there.. now i just use cm7, smooth as a butter..
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Is cm7 really that smooth? No lag at all...
N what are the disadvantages of cm7? I am really noob in this so where can i find step by step tutorial?
I am quite interested in flashing it
Thanks
craze96 said:
Is cm7 really that smooth? No lag at all...
N what are the disadvantages of cm7? I am really noob in this so where can i find step by step tutorial?
I am quite interested in flashing it
Thanks
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Hmm, disadvantages? I've seen almost none apart from certain apps not gingerbread friendly, eg: need for speed shift.. Other than that, it's just a plain new android system, and not clutter over fancy ui such as sense.
You can try reading the step-by-step tutorial in the android developement thread. There are currently 3 (i guess) different compilation of cm7, but still the same none the less..
I love the one in my signature, u can try to check it out.. happy flashing..
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Hmm, disadvantages? I've seen almost none apart from certain apps not gingerbread friendly, eg: need for speed shift.. Other than that, it's just a plain new android system, and not clutter over fancy ui such as sense.
You can try reading the step-by-step tutorial in the android developement thread. There are currently 3 (i guess) different compilation of cm7, but still the same none the less..
I love the one in my signature, u can try to check it out.. happy flashing..
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ummm... 1 more thing is there any way that I can return back once im in CM7?
Hey guys,
Wondering if anyone could help me track down what the issue of me experiencing recent choppy graphics (lags a bit, as if skipping frames, not smooth) on a certain 3d game (Gunbros) could be?
I'm finding it a pain to isolate the problem as it was running smoothly back when I was with CM7.0
However I upgraded to CM7.1 (there was also a big Gunbro update at that time) and I briefly remember it became choppy shortly after.
Now I've switched to MIUI and I still have the issue however, I uninstalled, re-installed, asked me for the re-download data and at that same instance the game ran fine.
Next day, same issue.
Now i'm completely stumped on the cause. Possible culprits:
-CM7.1 / New MIUI
-Gunbros Update?
-Something else (lol I don't know what)
Anyone here experience anything similar? I don't know if I should make a nandroid backup and go to CM7.0.3 to check but I thought I would check if anyone has/is experiencing similar issues.
Usually its because there is not much avalible ram that causes games to lag. But i know miui and cm7 have lots of avalible ram. Have you checked how much avalible ram you have before playing the game?
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Yeah I did suspect the RAM once, I've decided to tweak things a bit to make sure I have between 120-150mb free RAM before playing and still the same issue.
Looking through some customer AOSP kernels I noticed one mention "-allocated more GPU memory".
Now I wonder if the Kernels from CM7.1 and MIUI 1.7.8+ had less GPU memory allocated... but now I'm possibly over-thinking a bit.
I haven't had issues with other games BUT I haven't really tried any other games that are equally this 3D intensive.
Hello all!
Usually I strut about the Android Development forum only, but I've a question for you Arc (S) owners.
I own an Arc S, and I'm quite ok with it. One thing is bugging me though, and I want to know how you are doing with it to know if it's supposed to be like this or not.
Whenever I run a game such as Corby (great game, bought full content and also worked normally on my old HTC Desire), it goes crazy after a couple of minutes of playing. This happened on stock Gingerbread, stock ICS (though even quicker) and all custom ROMs I tried.
Going crazy here means: not accurately registering touch at all, or not at all, or at random, on and off. The game keeps on running, but the touch input is ignored at most, severed at best.
As Corby has a couple of levels to try for free, and as it's fun enough to play for say 15-30 minutes, I was wondering:
Could any of you perhaps install and play it and let me know how/if it works for you, and what setup you have? With setup I mean:
Phone: Arc / Arc S
ROM: Stock ICS/Stock Gingerbread/Custom, being...
Kernel: Stock ICS/Stock Gingerbread/Custom, being ... with ... governor and ... IO, on clock speeds ... to ...
Game: HD graphics/low graphics (switchable in game settings)
I want to know because if it does run properly for any of you, I'm going to return my phone and get another one back as it's still under warranty for me, though I won't bother the hassle if you all have the issue.
I'd really, really appreciate your help!
Oh, and here's a link to Cordy in Play Store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.silvertree.cordy&hl=nl
Arc, Stock rom (v6 supercharged) & stock kernel (1ghz, deadline), HD graphics - i've played the game for about 10 minutes and i had no problems.
Just do full wipe and reinstall rom with pc companion, changing phone is a bad idea
Questions go in the Q&A section
Works fine, no lag, no errors.
Even with 1 Ghz. Settings: HD, smartassv2, sio
mando508 said:
Arc, Stock rom (v6 supercharged) & stock kernel (1ghz, deadline), HD graphics - i've played the game for about 10 minutes and i had no problems.
Just do full wipe and reinstall rom with pc companion, changing phone is a bad idea
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Changing as in replacing my possibly faulty Arc S with a normally working Arc S, a bad idea?
PS: Stock as in Gingerbread or ICS?
Believe me your Arc is not damaged ;p. I'm on gingerbread, on ICS i've got too many performance issues like yours here.
If you mean bugs like holding a button that I am not anymore holding, I have them as well in many games. It's almost like the game freezes, but without the graphics and sound freezing - no input is being registered for a few seconds, but game is "running" normally.
I explained this to myself by assuming it's when the phone runs out of RAM, but not sure..
mando: problem is, I have had it on gingerbread to, both Stock and Arconium...
matus: that's exactly what's happening, although, if my knowledge on Android's memory management is correct, that can't be the cause. If anything the entire game should close, not just the input. Also while you say for a few seconds, with my Arc S it's more: once it's gone it stays gone. Doesn't come back until reboot, and not for long either.
Anyone else got issues like this?
Hi all,
I'd usually always had average speeds in scrolling through menus etc. on my Arc S. Then I installed Nova Launcher a few months ago which made it lightning fast!
But recently, it's become painfully slow to the point of being unusable. I've installed several new games and apps lately, and I know that I could uninstall them one by one and see if that's causing the problem, but I'd rather not go through that and lose my data - especially if the cause is something else.
Is there a menu option somewhere that shows me what all the processing power is being spent on? In a similar way to the battery drain screen? I also notice that my Arc S will start chugging, and stutter several times, whenever I'm playing games. It'll have every minute or two, stutter around three times for about five seconds, then go back to normal.
But menu screens are painfully slow. Does any have any ideas? Is there a cache I can clear too? I'm rooted and on the latest ICS ROM.
Thanks in advance,
schnide
schnidex said:
Hi all,
I'd usually always had average speeds in scrolling through menus etc. on my Arc S. Then I installed Nova Launcher a few months ago which made it lightning fast!
But recently, it's become painfully slow to the point of being unusable. I've installed several new games and apps lately, and I know that I could uninstall them one by one and see if that's causing the problem, but I'd rather not go through that and lose my data - especially if the cause is something else.
Is there a menu option somewhere that shows me what all the processing power is being spent on? In a similar way to the battery drain screen? I also notice that my Arc S will start chugging, and stutter several times, whenever I'm playing games. It'll have every minute or two, stutter around three times for about five seconds, then go back to normal.
But menu screens are painfully slow. Does any have any ideas? Is there a cache I can clear too? I'm rooted and on the latest ICS ROM.
Thanks in advance,
schnide
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Itll be best for you to install a custom rom stripped of all bloatware (the useless programs that use up all tie processing power) and with speed tweaks apps such as "root cleaner" and "seeder" are also very useful apps to speed up your phone good luck!
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Settings>apps>Active, and see what uses the most RAM.
Go back to Gingerbread...Ics is not for Arc S (Even custom rom's etc etc..only fancy graphics.....)...:good:
AW: [Q] Arc S has become painfully, almost unusably, slow..
Sorin90 said:
Go back to Gingerbread...Ics is not for Arc S (Even custom rom's etc etc..only fancy graphics.....)...:good:
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schnidex said:
Hi all,
I'd usually always had average speeds in scrolling through menus etc. on my Arc S. Then I installed Nova Launcher a few months ago which made it lightning fast!
But recently, it's become painfully slow to the point of being unusable. I've installed several new games and apps lately, and I know that I could uninstall them one by one and see if that's causing the problem, but I'd rather not go through that and lose my data - especially if the cause is something else.
Is there a menu option somewhere that shows me what all the processing power is being spent on? In a similar way to the battery drain screen? I also notice that my Arc S will start chugging, and stutter several times, whenever I'm playing games. It'll have every minute or two, stutter around three times for about five seconds, then go back to normal.
But menu screens are painfully slow. Does any have any ideas? Is there a cache I can clear too? I'm rooted and on the latest ICS ROM.
Thanks in advance,
schnide
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Chuck CM10 on that bad boy. It will feel like a brand new phone
jader13254 said:
ICS is for arc S if its right omptimized... I use my (ics-based) rom since it was released & fully satisfied
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It runs ok for some time...and then becomes slow like other ics rom...quite sure of what I'm saying ! I've tryed a lot of ics rom( From August 2012 until today some day ago! xD)...I'm not saying that your rom is ****...but the best rom for the Arc's hardware is GingerBread....
Try CM10. Your quadrant and AnTuTu scores will falter but don't let that bother you. It made my phone much more usable and not to mention quicker! Make sure you OC your Arc to 1.6Ghz and turn on 16bit transparency.
The thing I do, use titanium backup to backup everything then factory reset...thereafter it may feel faster n new
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It runs ok for some time...and then becomes slow like other ics rom...quite sure of what I'm saying ! I've tryed a lot of ics rom( From August 2012 until today some day ago! xD)...I'm not saying that your rom is ****...but the best rom for the Arc's hardware is GingerBread....
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Restart your phone periodically when lags occur...
Silencer96 said:
Try CM10. Your quadrant and AnTuTu scores will falter but don't let that bother you. It made my phone much more usable and not to mention quicker! Make sure you OC your Arc to 1.6Ghz and turn on 16bit transparency.
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Don't OC. Unless you want to get rid of the phone ASAP.
Thanks for all the suggestions - I actually went through all the apps I'd installed lately and removed a few to see if it would help. Strangely, it was Canabalt HD which seemed to be causing the problems. I uninstalled it, and it's back to normal. I reinstalled it again to see if it would slow down, and it did.
I think that game uses OpenFeint, so I don't know if that's anything to do with it. I may install CM at some point but right now I'm happy with the latest, rooted stock (and besides, I can upgrade in two months and might get the Xperia Z).
Thanks again!
Mine's been overclocked to 1.6Ghz for a year now and I haven't faced any issues so far.
Greetings.
In hopes of finding someone who's facing a similar problem, I'd like to ask you about a certain issue.
I've installed the Xperia Play Z Ultimate Edition rom on my Xplay r800i. It's running all cool and great, but there's one problem. The apps are closing for no reason. It's like, one moment you're playing a game, and all of a sudden the main screen appears, as if you pressed the home button, but the app is gone. It looks like they're crashing when the phone is under heavy load. It happens to literally everything. Even Messenger bubbles often disappear when there's a new heavy app starting.
I've searched the rom's thread, but didn't find any information about such problem.
If this matters, I've flashed the kernel that was supplied by rom creator - 480p DoomKernel.
This is the first rom I've seen which has an issue like that, and I don't think there's any alternative, as this is the only ICS rom I know that keeps all of Xplay's core features while significantly improving speed and functionality.
Please help. Does anyone know why this happens?
Update: out of frustration, I've changed to another ICS rom, Honami 2.1.3, together with switching to a Lupus V7 kernel (ram version)... and the same thing happens. Although with the new rom my phone's performance seems to have DRASTICALLY improved, apps are still closing for no reason. There's not even a popup or error, or anything like that - it just pulls the plug and suddenly kicks me to the main screen.
This problem renders heavy games literally UNPLAYABLE. It runs perfect for like 5 or 10 minutes, with high framerate even, then out of a sudden BAM - back to the main screen. No error, no nothing.
Browsing around Lupus settings I've found something called Low Memory Killer. From what I understand, this thing kills the apps when the device is on critically low memory. Maybe this is the cause? And if it is, why the heck is it "going rogue" and killing apps that I'm ACTIVELY USING? How do I configure this? I assume you can't just disable it...
Please help.
Seriously? No one has ANY IDEA what's happening? Please help! I literally have no clue what may be causing this.
Switched to YET ANOTHER rom and kernel - Nexplay, with bundled Lupus kernel, this time also changing the firmware to R800i_4.0.2.A.0.58_Enhanced. With this one, the phone runs definitely the fastest, but guess what... same thing happens as before. Games commit suicide when played for too long. Out of all I've tested, the only ones that don't shut down are OpenTyrian and Nes emulator. Gun Bros worked fine for like 5 minutes, and suddenly closed, working very slow for like 2 seconds before it happened. Same thing with Vendetta Online but this one outright REBOOTED THE PHONE! And these games supposedly are optimized for xplay, so it doesn't make any sense why there's such a problem going on...
I'm starting to wonder if maybe it's because I'm using ICS roms? But then, I've never seen anybody reporting such problems with ANY rom. This definitely isn't a common issue. I'm also using Link2SD, but again, I've never seen anyone mentioning it causing anything like that.
I can relate to your problem. I've experienced the same (apps randomly closing while in use) issues 1 or 2 years ago and to me the development on these roms are dead since the developers have moved onto newer devices. Currently my xperia play is dead (bricked) however with experience of using many of the roms i can safely say that ICS is not meant for the xperia play. Sony themselves didn't officially release ICS for this device due to the number of bugs and problems associated with it. I'd recommend you to use GB roms to bring out the best potential of your device. ICS lags some way or another whereas GB doesn't. All games run smooth on Gingerbread and they certainly do not have issues like ICS does. The best rom for this device is Gin2kitkat ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631144 ) and my personal favourite Xperia NXT 2 r1 (i've used this rom the longest). Here's the link for that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649368
From experience, as long as you use a Gingerbread rom you should be good to go as they are the most stable for our device. Good luck
Aaw, that's a real bummer. The problem with GB roms is that there's a lot of ICS apps and games that I really need. One of the main reasons I've decided to unlock bootloader on this device is because I wanted to get an upgrade to ICS. It's really strange. I've seen people play advanced games on this phone (example) and there are no signs of problems such as the one I'm experiencing.
Thanks a lot for your reply. I guess I'll use one more ICS rom, and if that fails, I'll give GB roms a try.
Btw, what do you think about NXT Gaming rom? I don't care much about flashy UI and widgets, and as long as everything in the phone works (camera, xLoud etc.) priority for me is gaming performance, and from description, this rom seems to be the most aggresive I've seen when it comes for optimizing performance for games.
I agree, from the vid the user is seen to be running the ROM "ICS Ultimate". Also i haven't tried the NXT gaming rom only the NXT 2r1 but regardless, with that rom i've been able to play emulator games and heavy intensive games such as Fifa 2012. I'd only imagine the 'NXT Gaming rom' is faster and better but since i haven't tried it, i'm unable to give you a direct response, sorry. Anyways Gingerbread will always be the best in terms of gaming performance and functionality, but if you're able to find a good ICS rom that is smooth when playing games such as GTA then it's entirely up to you whether you want to stay on ICS or not. Also correct me if i'm wrong but i remember GTA3 (not san andreas) being playable on gingerbread.
Correct, GTA3 DOES work on Gingerbread, but unfortunately only this one and Vice City do so. GTA San Andreas and Chinatown Wars will not work on anything lower than ICS. This is an example anyway, cuz there are few more things that I need and will work only on ICS.
Anyways, guess what. I've tried YET another Rom from a portuguese site (rom is Fusion ICS 2.4), and the problem stopped - apps no longer spontaneously shut down. There's another problem though... as this system is ridiculously unstable. Sometimes it's fast as lightning, then sometimes it slows down to a crawl for no reason - it has nothing to do with active apps; it often happens with no active apps running and with tons of free ram available. It's completely random. Even the interface sometimes crashes for no reason. Curiously though, all games run extremely fast and they never shut down on their own. Unfortunately, it's not worth using such a train wreck. Games running well while the rest of the system goes haywire defeats the purpose for me.
I'd give "ICS Ultimate" rom a try, but for some reason, I get virus alerts when trying to download or open the file. I guess I'll either wait until it's confirmed false alert, or go for GB roms finally.