Hey guys,
Wondering if anyone could help me track down what the issue of me experiencing recent choppy graphics (lags a bit, as if skipping frames, not smooth) on a certain 3d game (Gunbros) could be?
I'm finding it a pain to isolate the problem as it was running smoothly back when I was with CM7.0
However I upgraded to CM7.1 (there was also a big Gunbro update at that time) and I briefly remember it became choppy shortly after.
Now I've switched to MIUI and I still have the issue however, I uninstalled, re-installed, asked me for the re-download data and at that same instance the game ran fine.
Next day, same issue.
Now i'm completely stumped on the cause. Possible culprits:
-CM7.1 / New MIUI
-Gunbros Update?
-Something else (lol I don't know what)
Anyone here experience anything similar? I don't know if I should make a nandroid backup and go to CM7.0.3 to check but I thought I would check if anyone has/is experiencing similar issues.
Usually its because there is not much avalible ram that causes games to lag. But i know miui and cm7 have lots of avalible ram. Have you checked how much avalible ram you have before playing the game?
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Yeah I did suspect the RAM once, I've decided to tweak things a bit to make sure I have between 120-150mb free RAM before playing and still the same issue.
Looking through some customer AOSP kernels I noticed one mention "-allocated more GPU memory".
Now I wonder if the Kernels from CM7.1 and MIUI 1.7.8+ had less GPU memory allocated... but now I'm possibly over-thinking a bit.
I haven't had issues with other games BUT I haven't really tried any other games that are equally this 3D intensive.
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I (still) love my Desire, unfortunately after two weeks of usage or so the screen starts annoying me! Any live wallpaper is unusable due choppy home screen scrolling and some menus like "All Apps" or "Customize" become very slow at the bottom. At first I thought it was problem of custom ROM, but this is happening even on stock ROM, so it's probably a HW problem (GPU maybe?).
Can someone help me?
Thanks.
HW problem? Don't think so. However, can be, but it's not likely.
I suggest to try a different kernel and if that not helps do a full wipe & reflash.
I see, that we use the same radio & kernel (except that I'm on LeeDroid) - but i never experienced that slowdowns.
Nah, coutts, CM, HTC, ziggy... All the same.
Try changing your governor
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Maybe a ram thing .... i use (i know not all think this is good but) a taskmanager with a auto close apps widget
with kind regards...Alex
Still the same and I have plenty of free RAM.
If your device can still play 3d intensive games without slow downs or errors then I doubt it's a hardware problem. So...Does it play games properly?
Recommend such game that is OK on your Desire, so we can compare.
Try nenamark (1.5 free in the market). I get 20.9 FPS with the stuff in my signature. So if you get more than 15 then I think it won't be a hardware problem.
Also I noticed the lag when something is installing. So can be the a2sd+ slowing down your phone.
It can't be due A2SD (read OP).
Btw, I got 18,6 FPS.
Hmm, then the gpu/cpu seems to be fine. Must be a software error.
But what SW? Every ROM and every kernel behave in the same way.
That's what I try to figure out. So if you do a full wipe & changing ROM - Lag remains.
Changing kernel - lag remains.
Seriously, I have no idea. Usually a full wipe & reflash helps (ROM+kernel).
Can't it be the radio?
Can't be, this problem started in virgin stock ROM (I have copyright on that ).
Have you tried aosp roms its probaly a HTC sense issue
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AOSP ROMs have the same issue.
maybe your NAND got corrupted in some way?
maybe after you install new ROM try not to restore your previous apps or system setting with neither titanium backup or mybackup, whichever you use.
however,i would assume you tried that already.
also you could try going back to stock ROM and or even HD rom which fits on NAND and try booting without SD card which maybe trying to read something and it cant.
so was your phone branded?
and when did you noticed this performance issue?
Unbraded. And I noticed it during using stock ROM.
Don't know if its just imagination but i think my desire has also gotten more laggy lately.
My phone has definitely slowed down LWPs are pretty much unusable & Sense always slows right down at the bottom of some menus, including the app drawer.
I have a problem with the newest version of the Dungeon Defenders on froyo. It was smooth and stable under 2.1 but the os was crappy, so i updated to the 131, then to the 145 and after the 34.4.9 US official froyo during the past few weeks, but the problem remained on every version. Sometime the game is fully playable for hours, sometimes it freezes the whole phone, or extremely slow right after i start the game and almost impossible to quit (0.01 FPS) and i have to remove the battery. Other games like Dungeon Hunter are always good and the the problem never occured, but Sygic Aura(a GPS software) sometimes produces the same problem. The phone is rooted but not overclocked.
Anyone else experiences the same or my phone is faulty? Thank you in advance!
I have exactly same problem in 2.2.1 with any 3D application (kwaak3, raging thunder). Killing all apps with Advanced Task Killer makes phone smooth again without reboot, but all 3D applications are unusable.
After some searching i still haven't solution.
This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826507 isn't working, neither this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008645
After exiting problematic application CPU usage is 0%, but phone is choppy and unresponsive.
i have downgraded back to eclair and everything is good. The cpu usageis 0% but the IOW is realy high. That is why the phone is choppy. I have tried every froyo rom from 107 to 164 and none of it is working right for me. I dont know that the problem is because of the beta firmware or our phone is faulty? But if it is goog under eclair it cannot be faulty? Isnt it?
This problem has been reported even with the official/unofficial current Motor release of 2.2
Try a stock rom withou blur, 3.4.2-155-002.
With blur, many games lag, don't start, or crash while playing. Tested in stock 2.1, 3.4.3-11, with blur. If you test in stock 3.4.2-155-02, you will see the difference.
I'm in barebones 1.4 now, playing all my games, overclocked and undervolted ([email protected], [email protected], [email protected] 75 threshold).
The best game to test your Defy is Asphalt 6, if this game run, all other will run too (Dungeon Hunter II tested too).
I have done a little bit of build.prop tweak and I found it reduced the problem slightly (doesn't eliminate). Very rarely for games to lag now, but still exists in Google Map, only if you navigated a wide region.
dalivik.vm.heapsize=30m
to
dalivik.vm.heapsize=40m
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=70
to
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60
**currently using 34.4.9, this also worked on 34.4.4 (t-Mobile)**
The results are obtained from trail-n-error. Not very scientific, but you could give it a try and post some feed back. Thank you.
Problems start appearing some time after phone reboot, but for now everything runs fine. Thank you very much for posting this !
i think i found the solution or at least some kind of workaround for dungeon defenders running on froyo. when the game starts lagging (in most cases in lobby) just press the home button und return to homescreen, slide a few times and return back to the game and it plays smoothly and laggfree as if nothing ever happened. works for me everytime. hope it does for you too.
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Unfortunately problem is still there, maybe its little bit better with teruyume's tweak. I found thread about this bug in official motorola forum, so let's hope someone can solve it.
Caleb_cz said:
Unfortunately problem is still there, maybe its little bit better with teruyume's tweak. I found thread about this bug in official motorola forum, so let's hope someone can solve it.
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did you try my trick?
derbestimmer said:
did you try my trick?
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Yes, but phone is very choppy after bug appears, sliding in homescreens is almost unpossible.
Because the problem occurs for me not only in Dungeon Defenders I think it has to be a known bug to motorlola nad dont release the the update this buggy. Editing the heap is a good idea i will test it tonight and reports how it is works.
i edited the build prop and tried the home screen trick bot none ofthem helped.. i am on 3.4.2-155. going back to eclair agan
You guys now something? i tried DefyFroyoSense and Dungeon Defenders was COMPLETLY smooth. Smoother than on 2.1. This ROM is magic.
sometimes it is smooth for a couple hours. But once it starts to lag i cannot make it to work right once again only just by restarting the phone. but i will try that sense rom
Hey guys,
I've recently joined the Galaxy Nexus bandwagon from the Apple Crowd and I'm enjoying the experience thanks to the awesome community here.
However...
As soon as I got the phone I unlocked and rooted. I've been experimenting with Custom Roms, and I'm yet to find a completely smooth "lag free" experience.
What I mean by this, is that using (for example) Spotify and browsing around (nothing intensive) causes an occasional "skip" like you'd hear when your computer is low on memory/cpu cycles when listening to music. This happens in operation and in some ROMS when the screen is locked. I had a shot with Seeder which rinsed the battery and still had a small amount of skipping.
It really comes into its own when installing apps from the Play Store, the phone slows down to a crawl, even freezing for at least 10 seconds while it's sorting out the data, and then not fully going back to smooth after.
I've seen some people recommend going back to Stock, which is no fun, should I really go back to Stock to fix this issue?
What are the "perfect lag free" ROM/Kernel/CPU settings for the Galaxy Nexus that removes these stutters and provides a pure experience?
I understand that's a broad question, so what's your combo and is your experience totally smooth?
i've noticed this too while downloading something from the playstore or my dropbox account, it just lags like crazy. even on my N7 running Dirty AOKP, i just started having problems with that. no matter what i do kernel wise, it still lags. i guess the only way around this is to not use the phone while it's downloading something.
There is nothing you can do - it is related to the hardware of this device overall. The IO performance of this device sucks, plainly. About the maximum transfer speed of the internal SD is roughly 10mb/sec.. compare that to a typical consumer-grade SSD that can write around 200-300mb/sec with a 6gb/sec interface it really puts this in to perspective.. when you're downloading something from the play store it is writing to memory and then installing to SD almost simultaneously, which these operations take priority over the UI thread obviously.
We need higher performance memory and faster SD read/write speeds to overcome this bottleneck. I am unsure of the interface between the memory, sd to the CPU.
Stock ROM does not stutter that much. I'm using AOKP mr1 build5 and it's pretty close to stock when it comes to lag.
Seen some roms freezing for 5 seconds while using market intensively... Crazy
Better then the incredible
i am currently trying to play Sonic 2 game form the market on XPLAY HONAMIv2.1.4 ICS ROM but for some weird reason the game is running in fast motion I'ts like theirs no frame limiter on or something. i goggled this issue and it seems its common but no one seems to know how to fix it or why it occurs. on most ics roms this issue does not happen but here it does. i dont want to change my rom i want to fix this. my only thought could be something to do with the video card drivers/config.
Greetings.
In hopes of finding someone who's facing a similar problem, I'd like to ask you about a certain issue.
I've installed the Xperia Play Z Ultimate Edition rom on my Xplay r800i. It's running all cool and great, but there's one problem. The apps are closing for no reason. It's like, one moment you're playing a game, and all of a sudden the main screen appears, as if you pressed the home button, but the app is gone. It looks like they're crashing when the phone is under heavy load. It happens to literally everything. Even Messenger bubbles often disappear when there's a new heavy app starting.
I've searched the rom's thread, but didn't find any information about such problem.
If this matters, I've flashed the kernel that was supplied by rom creator - 480p DoomKernel.
This is the first rom I've seen which has an issue like that, and I don't think there's any alternative, as this is the only ICS rom I know that keeps all of Xplay's core features while significantly improving speed and functionality.
Please help. Does anyone know why this happens?
Update: out of frustration, I've changed to another ICS rom, Honami 2.1.3, together with switching to a Lupus V7 kernel (ram version)... and the same thing happens. Although with the new rom my phone's performance seems to have DRASTICALLY improved, apps are still closing for no reason. There's not even a popup or error, or anything like that - it just pulls the plug and suddenly kicks me to the main screen.
This problem renders heavy games literally UNPLAYABLE. It runs perfect for like 5 or 10 minutes, with high framerate even, then out of a sudden BAM - back to the main screen. No error, no nothing.
Browsing around Lupus settings I've found something called Low Memory Killer. From what I understand, this thing kills the apps when the device is on critically low memory. Maybe this is the cause? And if it is, why the heck is it "going rogue" and killing apps that I'm ACTIVELY USING? How do I configure this? I assume you can't just disable it...
Please help.
Seriously? No one has ANY IDEA what's happening? Please help! I literally have no clue what may be causing this.
Switched to YET ANOTHER rom and kernel - Nexplay, with bundled Lupus kernel, this time also changing the firmware to R800i_4.0.2.A.0.58_Enhanced. With this one, the phone runs definitely the fastest, but guess what... same thing happens as before. Games commit suicide when played for too long. Out of all I've tested, the only ones that don't shut down are OpenTyrian and Nes emulator. Gun Bros worked fine for like 5 minutes, and suddenly closed, working very slow for like 2 seconds before it happened. Same thing with Vendetta Online but this one outright REBOOTED THE PHONE! And these games supposedly are optimized for xplay, so it doesn't make any sense why there's such a problem going on...
I'm starting to wonder if maybe it's because I'm using ICS roms? But then, I've never seen anybody reporting such problems with ANY rom. This definitely isn't a common issue. I'm also using Link2SD, but again, I've never seen anyone mentioning it causing anything like that.
I can relate to your problem. I've experienced the same (apps randomly closing while in use) issues 1 or 2 years ago and to me the development on these roms are dead since the developers have moved onto newer devices. Currently my xperia play is dead (bricked) however with experience of using many of the roms i can safely say that ICS is not meant for the xperia play. Sony themselves didn't officially release ICS for this device due to the number of bugs and problems associated with it. I'd recommend you to use GB roms to bring out the best potential of your device. ICS lags some way or another whereas GB doesn't. All games run smooth on Gingerbread and they certainly do not have issues like ICS does. The best rom for this device is Gin2kitkat ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631144 ) and my personal favourite Xperia NXT 2 r1 (i've used this rom the longest). Here's the link for that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649368
From experience, as long as you use a Gingerbread rom you should be good to go as they are the most stable for our device. Good luck
Aaw, that's a real bummer. The problem with GB roms is that there's a lot of ICS apps and games that I really need. One of the main reasons I've decided to unlock bootloader on this device is because I wanted to get an upgrade to ICS. It's really strange. I've seen people play advanced games on this phone (example) and there are no signs of problems such as the one I'm experiencing.
Thanks a lot for your reply. I guess I'll use one more ICS rom, and if that fails, I'll give GB roms a try.
Btw, what do you think about NXT Gaming rom? I don't care much about flashy UI and widgets, and as long as everything in the phone works (camera, xLoud etc.) priority for me is gaming performance, and from description, this rom seems to be the most aggresive I've seen when it comes for optimizing performance for games.
I agree, from the vid the user is seen to be running the ROM "ICS Ultimate". Also i haven't tried the NXT gaming rom only the NXT 2r1 but regardless, with that rom i've been able to play emulator games and heavy intensive games such as Fifa 2012. I'd only imagine the 'NXT Gaming rom' is faster and better but since i haven't tried it, i'm unable to give you a direct response, sorry. Anyways Gingerbread will always be the best in terms of gaming performance and functionality, but if you're able to find a good ICS rom that is smooth when playing games such as GTA then it's entirely up to you whether you want to stay on ICS or not. Also correct me if i'm wrong but i remember GTA3 (not san andreas) being playable on gingerbread.
Correct, GTA3 DOES work on Gingerbread, but unfortunately only this one and Vice City do so. GTA San Andreas and Chinatown Wars will not work on anything lower than ICS. This is an example anyway, cuz there are few more things that I need and will work only on ICS.
Anyways, guess what. I've tried YET another Rom from a portuguese site (rom is Fusion ICS 2.4), and the problem stopped - apps no longer spontaneously shut down. There's another problem though... as this system is ridiculously unstable. Sometimes it's fast as lightning, then sometimes it slows down to a crawl for no reason - it has nothing to do with active apps; it often happens with no active apps running and with tons of free ram available. It's completely random. Even the interface sometimes crashes for no reason. Curiously though, all games run extremely fast and they never shut down on their own. Unfortunately, it's not worth using such a train wreck. Games running well while the rest of the system goes haywire defeats the purpose for me.
I'd give "ICS Ultimate" rom a try, but for some reason, I get virus alerts when trying to download or open the file. I guess I'll either wait until it's confirmed false alert, or go for GB roms finally.