[Q] Will 2GB RAM be enough for Android 4.5 ? - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, saw this article about Android 4.5 expected features ( link ) , and the multitasking feature caught my attention. Im about to buy the M8 and was worried whether 2GB ram will be enough for the phone to cope with heavy multi tasking. Other phones like the LG and Sony Z2 are bumping up their RAM.
Any devs have an outlook/opinion on this ?
Thanks!

I doubt really doubt it. the nexus 5 Also has 2 gigs. They are not going to make it obsolete.
Shouldn't put any stock in rumors.
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I am sure it will handle it better than the note 2 which only had 2gb of ram. It may slow down performance temporarily but I don't see the phone being unusable especially when not in use. Sure newer phones will always come out but once the "next big thing"comes out the " next next big thing" will be just around the corner. I say get this phone be happy with. And if something comes out which is far superior you can always sell it
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Need an extra opinion.

So. I've got a friend who tonight just offered to trade a 32gb HTC One X International for my AT&T 16gb Galaxy S3. I've already got two friends saying it's a good trade, and I'm inclined to agree because of the Tegra 3 and the LCD screen. Just curious to see what anyone else thought and if they'd give a thumbs up or down.
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Yes its a good trade. Tegra 3 and 32 gb, but you will NOT get LTE with the hox, is this a deal breaker?
Also the battery life on the hox is a lot less than the s3, but if rooted there are a couple of roms that utilize battery use very well.
Another good reason to trade is the latest sense, its brilliant.
Check the hox thoroughly, make sure its a perfect runner before you swap.
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Don't now about circumstances in us, but here in Germany its not good, better to sell your galaxy s3 on ebay or Craig list and buy hox, it'll give you some extra bucks
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Check what your network uses. GSM or CDMA. If you haven't, go read some reviews. I've been debating getting the one x international myself but I've read the battery life is god awful.
Been holding out on getting a new phone since I wanted one with a decent physical keyboard and other specs. Since HTC decided they don't want to anymore and I love sense its hard to look at anything else. Can't stand AOSP stock look or touchwiz for sure though personally.
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armorized said:
Check what your network uses. GSM or CDMA. If you haven't, go read some reviews. I've been debating getting the one x international myself but I've read the battery life is god awful.
Been holding out on getting a new phone since I wanted one with a decent physical keyboard and other specs. Since HTC decided they don't want to anymore and I love sense its hard to look at anything else. Can't stand AOSP stock look or touchwiz for sure though personally.
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Your out to date, mate. The battery life with last stock rom is pretty good. With 4-5 screen on time hox can live for a hole day. Gaming will cause some battery drain, bur even playing 1,5hrs Sega virtua tennis my phone gives me 3hrs screen on time.
P. S. : typing on 4,7 display with swiftX keyboard is such a pleasure after some time it collects your type of lexicon and it becomes really hard to use something other than that (ok, full qwerty is still nice on PC, but everything alse kind of suxx)
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free ram on galaxy note 2

hiya, a bit of a random question, but could someone please tell me how much free ram they have on their note 2 on average? (should be checkable in the task manager if the note 2 still has one) i know it has 2gb total ram, but im curious to see how much of that ram is already used and how much i will actually have to play around with.
i know some of you will argue that 'free ram is wasted ram' and 'it doesnt matter since android will auto kill off background apps to give your current app more ram', but to me, these arguments are meaningless/irrelevent. on my current galaxy note, the ram management doesnt suit my usage style. everytime i open the browser, switch out of it and load another app, then re open the browser, all tabs have to reload, which is a sign to me that all the memory used by the browser has been dumped. vice versa as well, as occasionally i will switch out of a game to send a message and then when i switch back to the game, i find out that the memory used by the game has been dumped as well and i have now lost my progress in said game.
TLDR version: basically, what i wanna know is if i were to purchase the note 2 as an upgrade for my note, can i expect to be able to multitask between an app or three without it dumping the memory used by the previous app.
you will have about 1.75gb of ram
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you will have about 1.75gb of ram
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im assuming not all of that will be free. ie. on my galaxy note n7000, theres 800mb of the 1gb listed as usable, but on average, only 100-200mb of that is free.
1.75gb free at boot
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im assuming not all of that will be free. ie. on my galaxy note n7000, theres 800mb of the 1gb listed as usable, but on average, only 100-200mb of that is free.
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1.75 available to the user, of that about 1.25 free after boot.
I have updated from note 1 to 2 only because of ram, believe me, now works nice and like note 1 should have been, the biggest improvement.
ram is the only thing i am hating galaxy s3 for, if rams is all good on note 2, i will buy
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Ram is actually very impressive better than my wifes s3
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1.75GB after the reboot
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goo to devep option and click DONT KEEP ACTIVITY should always use less ram
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goo to devep option and click DONT KEEP ACTIVITY should always use less ram
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But this defeats the benefits of having 2gb of ram.
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The best ram management is having a program like rom toolbox or fast reboot and configuring android to start to kill apps when they have less than 250mb available.
It will kill when the phone hits the line of possible struggle, so it will be always fast and snappy, and you will have about 1gb of apps in memory to open it fast.
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Ram is actually very impressive better than my wifes s3
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wow, i am really jealous, s3 uses almost same amount of ram but the remaiming is just like 150-200mb, really laggy
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I have free ram around 1200
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Hi guys, just got mine today and I absolutely love it! I'm coming from a S2.. so this is my first note... When I saw this thread. .I got curious and have been checking my ram.. surprisingly contrary to all the parts above except for the op.. I always see that my ram is used to the extent of 1.55 gigs all the time Is this something I should be concerned about? My phone actually froze a couple of times as well. It could be that since its so new I'm on it continuously and therefore so little ram is available... Please let me know your thoughts..
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mancuk29 said:
Ram is actually very impressive better than my wifes s3
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hmm, wow, thats exactly what i was after. thanks!
while on the topic of ram I'm curious if the LTE models have less ram available to them vs the standard hspa model? I wouldnt think there would be much difference, but maybe some
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But this defeats the benefits of having 2gb of ram.
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Certainly does! I really don't understand why some people chase free RAM as it is only of any use whilst it is being used.
Coming from a Note 1, with only 1GB of memory, I notice a massive difference in multitasking performance because the OS isn't having to kill tasks in order to launch new ones, meaning switching between them is so much faster.
Android does a very good job of managing available memory, so let it do its job.
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Dave
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With the note 2 I never had to go to the task manager and manually free the ram (except before launching benchmarks). It just works lol.
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CreepyDroid said:
With the note 2 I never had to go to the task manager and manually free the ram (except before launching benchmarks). It just works lol.
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Oh noes now Apple will sue your a**! they have that term patented! you better hide boy :silly:
After a day of use from a reboot, I still have between 1Gb and 800Mb of free RAM, without deliberately shutting anything down or changing any developer settings from stock.

Samsung GS4 3GB of RAM :P

Alot of people are hating...for me this is sick!!! what u guys think???
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s4-other-2013-samsung-smartphones-pack-3gb-ram-120434/
In hope its true I can't wait for the S4 either way
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In hope its true I can't wait for the S4 either way
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pretty sure its true+ exynos 5450 2Ghz Quad Core+ the new 13MP camera samsung is working on it...
lol sick already killing the next iCrap 6 hahahahaahhahaahhaahah
I think 4 gb of ram should be the minimum.
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I thought they already announced that a gs4 won't come out next year, I mean people that bought the S3 would be disappointed, especially if their locked into a contract. Not to say that I wouldn't mind paying full price. Plus 2gigs of ram is not bad, most phones are still playing catch up with the S3, just look at the iphone hahaha
There must be some feature that eats a ton of ram for them to put 3gigs
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There must be some feature that eats a ton of ram for them to put 3gigs
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we all know they gonna drop alot of heavy features...but those make companies jealous and hard to catch up...thats what makes Galaxy line unique
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I thought they already announced that a gs4 won't come out next year, I mean people that bought the S3 would be disappointed, especially if their locked into a contract. Not to say that I wouldn't mind paying full price. Plus 2gigs of ram is not bad, most phones are still playing catch up with the S3, just look at the iphone hahaha
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There are trusted source rumors of a slightly revamped s3 starting to float around with only a few changes...like quadcore, additional ram and more mp camera...
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pretty sure its true+ exynos 5450 2Ghz Quad Core+ the new 13MP camera samsung is working on it...
lol sick already killing the next iCrap 6 hahahahaahhahaahhaahah
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Hah, prepare to be disappointed.
I'm gonna guess it'll just be a minor upgrade...
1.8Ghz Tegra 4/Exynos CPU
Standard 8MP camera
2 or 3GB of RAM
4.8" or 5" 720p SAMOLED++ screen, can't say whether they'll use PenTile or not.
One thing it should have is at least 2GB ddr3 maybe even a 128GB storage model, I'm sure the iphone6 will use these parts and Sammy may as well to, since they wIll be the first to produce them in a mobile chip
It needs a usb port on the top and bottom too.
That would be awesome.
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Of course people in the HTC camp are gonna hate. Samsung pulls out all the stops. Bring on the 3GB!
They need to do away with ex_sdcard... what's more external than dropbox? add 32 gb of internal and your good.
Well they probably will make it into quad core since the note 2 will come with the exynos chip. They finally support lte. I would still wait for the next galaxy though.
Blasphemy! A new phone coming out that's faster than my phone?! Omg
6in screen with 4gb would be nice.
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They need to do away with ex_sdcard... what's more external than dropbox? add 32 gb of internal and your good.
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Ah the eternal debate. I like expandable storage that doesn't rely on a good connection to access my stuff. Hey freeza, how are you liking the s3 so far?
Hope its true I'll be having an update about that time
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Ah the eternal debate. I like expandable storage that doesn't rely on a good connection to access my stuff. Hey freeza, how are you liking the s3 so far?
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I like external storage too. They just need to find a better way to utilize it when having large internal storage as well.
Oh, and this is easily the best phone I've owned. I say that about almost every phone I get, but I was just kidding myself if I ever said it with the EVO 3D and EVO 4G. I haven't had one issue with this phone since I bought it. I would have had to already return any HTC phone for some reason or another and I did with the EVO 3D, 4G, and LTE. 3D had screen separation issues, 4G developed a random spot, and the LTE had a weird lighting problem towards the bottom that looked like a string of LEDs were at the bottom of my screen.
I have the evo lte and was thinking about switching to the sg3, I'm not really a fan of the hardware button though. I can't decide that's why I wanted your opinion, I've used your stuff since the original evo.

[POLL] Fellow gnex owners: buying N4?

Just to get it in numbers...
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Definitely
Probably
Maybe
Probably not
Definitely not
Maybe!
I've decided that I'm going to buy one. Mainly because I know I can't make it another full year with the Gnex. I've never had a phone longer than 15 months.
I want to stay on the cycle
Im deff getting one...... Passing by nexus to my mom lol
Nope
No.
The price are really cool but I will keep my gnex and wait for the nexus 5.
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SprigganMaster said:
No.
The price are really cool but I will keep my gnex and wait for the nexus 5.
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this
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Its not like the iPhone where there's like significant improvement every year over last year's model, the Nexus 4 is about the same size, all it really has on the GalNex is the 8MP camera, but coming from LG that may not even be an improvement, at least a noticeable one.
I'll get around to voting on PC but, no.
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Its not like the iPhone where there's like significant improvement every year over last year's model, the Nexus 4 is about the same size, all it really has on the GalNex is the 8MP camera, but coming from LG that may not even be an improvement, at least a noticeable one.
I'll get around to voting on PC but, no.
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The CPU is easily 2-3x faster, and it has twice the RAM
I'm undecided. I'll probably get it just because I have an addiction to all things Google, but I'll hold off for a few weeks to make sure there's no glaring issues.
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The CPU is easily 2-3x faster, and it has twice the RAM
I'm undecided. I'll probably get it just because I have an addiction to all things Google, but I'll hold off for a few weeks to make sure there's no glaring issues.
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And better screen and wireless charging
Tempted, of course.
But rationally thinking, It would probably be not much more then a caprice... waiting for the 5.
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The CPU is easily 2-3x faster, and it has twice the RAM
I'm undecided. I'll probably get it just because I have an addiction to all things Google, but I'll hold off for a few weeks to make sure there's no glaring issues.
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Just because it has twice the cores and twice the RAM, doesn't necessarily make it 2x faster. That's not how things like that work. It all depends on the application and how it's being used.
Such as browsing the web. It'll probably be just as "fast" on both phones (talking about the application, not webpage load time). Sure, the Nexus 4 will be a faster overall, but not 2x faster.
Now, when applications are going to be made to support all 4 of those cores, THEN you'll start seeing some very nice performance increases! That's one of the reasons why this is a great phone - it's pretty much future proofed for quite a while.
Although, I'm not buying it. I'm very happy with my GNex right now. It does everything I could ask it to and more. (Not to mention I'm stuck with version, but that's a different subject).
Yes. I'm buying it... gonna hand the gnex down to m'lady. I have my birthday and Christmas just around the corner so I justify it by saying it is a gift from me for me.
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I'm definitely getting one.
The camera doesn't work on my current GNex.
I have no excuses otherwise. I just feel like getting a new phone,
Probably Not.
I've got my phone listed for sale on craigslist. If it sells for a decent price, I'll get a N4.
If not, no big deal, I'll just wait till the next nexus.
For sure, hoping the battery can get me through the whole day. However, if speaker blows its might get returned.
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Definitely getting it
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IAreKyleW00t said:
Just because it has twice the cores and twice the RAM, doesn't necessarily make it 2x faster. That's not how things like that work. It all depends on the application and how it's being used.
Such as browsing the web. It'll probably be just as "fast" on both phones (talking about the application, not webpage load time). Sure, the Nexus 4 will be a faster overall, but not 2x faster.
Now, when applications are going to be made to support all 4 of those cores, THEN you'll start seeing some very nice performance increases! That's one of the reasons why this is a great phone - it's pretty much future proofed for quite a while.
Although, I'm not buying it. I'm very happy with my GNex right now. It does everything I could ask it to and more. (Not to mention I'm stuck with version, but that's a different subject).
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Actually you are wrong. He stated the CPU is 2-3 times faster. He did not say apps would be 2-3 times faster as you pointed out. In actuality the CPU on the Nexus 4 is a beast. Overclocked Galaxy Nexus at 1.7 GHz I can get on average 105 MFLOPS on the multi thread portion of Linpack but the S4 quad gets 460 MFLOPS on the same test so the real answer is YES it is 2-3 times or more faster. But linpack and quadrant scores don't count in day to day stuff.......at least that's what everyone says.
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-s4-pro-vs-exynos-4412-benchmarks-127274/
Oh and HELL YES I am getting one.
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My answer is maybe, just bought my Galaxy Nexus month ago for about $300 and still worth about the same here, if the price for n4 here is around $400 i'll definitely buy it.
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How good is this phone still?

Hi,
About a year and a half ago I went from an iPhone 3 to a Galaxy Gio (my first android phone) and I've been happy ever since with Android. But the phone is on it's last legs, so time for a new phone.
Now with the arrival of the Nexus 4 I was really excited about it and was thinking about getting one.
But the issues with delivery, the fact it can't be found in the Netherlands and the fact that no retailer sells it for the 299e it's supposed to go (LG told a big Spanish retailer to sell it for 599 I read yesterday, MediaMarkt in Germany sells it for 395) made me look for an alternative.
I don't want to spend too much, so my budget is around 300 as I recently bought an iPad for the "heavy" things such as games.
I purely want a phone with a large screen that is able to play games you play for a few minutes. Stuff like Temple Run, racegames etc etc.
I'm now leaning towards the Google Nexus, my question is how future proof is this phone? Will it be able to run games that come out, say, the next year or so? Will updates after 4.2 also appear for the Galaxy Nexus?
I found a brand new one for 249e, is it still worth the money? Many thanks in advance.
Definitely worth it . Over a Year old and its still one of the best phones on the market . It has no problem with any current games and I don't see that changing for some time. Dual cores are still on top! a quad core is almost pointless ....for now. They still put the dual core chip sets in the galaxy Slll.
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Definitely worth it . Over a Year old and its still one of the best phones on the market . It has no problem with any current games and I don't see that changing for some time. Dual cores are still on top! a quad core is almost pointless ....for now. They still put the dual core chip sets in the galaxy Slll.
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They put dual core S4 in the American S3 because of LTE not playing well with Exynos Quad. Same for the HTC One X/S.
I just bought my second one. It is a very very capable device. Personally I don't game on my phone aside from the occasional Bad Piggies or GTA Vice City when I'm bored at work, I use my Nexus 7 for all my gaming needs, but when it comes to every day computing it is still a top performer. Due in large part to the Project Butter enhancements that make it super speedy. Switching between applications or multi tasking is a breeze.
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People still underestimate the dual core processors, the Snapdragon S4 dual core is still a beast processor.
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It's aight, still haven't found a phone worthy to upgrade to
Why not the Nexus 4 when it comes into stock? Same price, and next version of the phone.
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Why not the Nexus 4 when it comes into stock? Same price, and next version of the phone.
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A lot of us feel the LG Nexus is a step down in terms of build quality and the cost isn't really worth the benefits. Yeah it has more ram and processors but the camera is just as sad compared to the what it could/should have been. Its just not worth that extra cost. For instance I bought a mint GSM Nexus about 2 weeks ago, it is 6 months old and I got 4 OEM batteries + charger, and 7 cases including a SGP Neo Hybrid and a mess of screen protectors for 299. I would have paid no less then 399 w/tax & ship for a Nexus4 with nothing else.
It would be better for most of us to keep on chugging with the Gnex until the next Nexus device comes out that should be a good sized leap from the N4. Phones have that 2 cycle evolutionary leap. Like how the first HTC phones were great and the 2nd series (sensation....) Sucked pretty bad. But the OneX is great and the OneX+ isn't a huge improvement. Same thing with the Nexus phones. The Nexus One was spectacular. 1GHZ processor when 550 was unheard of. 512 ram, when 256 was normal and a S-AMOLED screen. The Nexus S was moderate. A curved screen, NFC and 1gb ram ( I could be wrong about the ram) were the only major improvements. But then the Galaxy Nexus introduced a dual core processor, huge 720P HD screen, on screen keys and a lot more.
I think the next Nexus will be huge
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This phone rocks and I love it but recently 4.2.1 has been giving me issues and I feel like a beta tester for Google. Don't say flash factory images, I did and I factory reset a few times. Hoping on 4.2.2 to fix the issues otherwise this phone is still extremely capable and does everything I need it do and can easily last me another year.
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altimax98;35670839 The Nexus One was spectacular. 1GHZ processor when 550 was unheard of. 512 ram said:
A. The Droid had a 600mhz TI omap processor, same as the Palm Pre so 550mhz was definitely "heard of".
B. The Nexus 1 had a regular Amoled display.
C. The Nexus S had 345 RAM. Advertised as 512 same as the S1.
D. The GNex didn't "introduce" anything but the 720p display.
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I just bought my second one. It is a very very capable device. Personally I don't game on my phone aside from the occasional Bad Piggies or GTA Vice City when I'm bored at work, I use my Nexus 7 for all my gaming needs, but when it comes to every day computing it is still a top performer. Due in large part to the Project Butter enhancements that make it super speedy. Switching between applications or multi tasking is a breeze.
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That's how I want to use it too. Mostly for browsing, communicating and a game from time to time.
Plus it's very customizable with all the ROM's and kernels I saw here. .
I guess you guys will have a new member on your side soon .
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Why not the Nexus 4 when it comes into stock? Same price, and next version of the phone.
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Because nobody sells it for 299 in Europe. The 299 version goes for 395. Black market at the moment is 500e.
Plus there is a 7 week waiting time for the people that already ordered. It will take well over 2 to 3 months before it will be widely available. Who knows how long it will take before it's available for 299.
Maybe in a year or so I'll upgrade to the 4 .
E. I'd love to hear how the gnex "introduced" a 720p display.
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A. The Droid had a 600mhz TI omap processor, same as the Palm Pre so 550mhz was definitely "heard of".
B. The Nexus 1 had a regular Amoled display.
C. The Nexus S had 345 RAM. Advertised as 512 same as the S1.
D. The GNex didn't "introduce" anything but the 720p display.
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Yep gnex is still an excellent device. Before I got my nexus 7 I was playing dead trigger and nova 3 on my gnex with no problems, only game my gnex ever struggled with was gta3. As far as web browsing and phone purposes, works like a phone is supposed too.
I intend on using my gnex at least until the next nexus is released, maybe longer.
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E. I'd love to hear how the gnex "introduced" a 720p display.
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Find a phone that had one before it.
My friend asked the same question. It's old and it may be dropped by Google (look at the Nexus S).
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Find a phone that had one before it.
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Rezound...
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Rezound...
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he shud hav said a 720p samoled display. 720p LCDs are **** compared 2 that. I had seen a rezound b4 buying my gnex in Nov 2010. It literally blew.
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Rezound...
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GNex - October 2011
Rezound - November 2011
Apparently it's still this good: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052339 :good:

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