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is there any way to get sense apps like the Music, camera, and phone onto vanlla phones or on cyanogen
I was hoping there was a way to get the dialer from a sense rom onto any stock rom. I actually may try that out later this week and see if it works (doubtful).
It requires sense framework for the Widgets as I've asked this before, as far as camera mods and what not I've seen that on vanilla roms but I'm sure there are geniuses that dwell on XDA that could figure it out.
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Eventually, there will be hacked up ROMs with bits and pieces from every corner of the earth - I wanted the same thing on my Nexus (stock with the HTC cam) and there were a few options (though all had bugs here and there). Given the G2 was *just* permrooted, it might be a few weeks/months before you see some really creative ROMs.
Other stuff, like the lockscreen, can be changed with apps like widgetlocker and such.
You should definitely try out the Desire Z rom, though. It's all kinds of awesome, with new features that weren't there in previous versions of Sense. Hell, the camera app alone is worth it - makes the stock Android camera app look like a joke.
Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
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Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
Enomther's TheOfficial has the option of both the HTC Camera and the HTC Music app - plus you can install the HTC IME (onscreen keyboard) easily as an APK (there's even a kitchen that lets you customize the colors and such).
Your sig claims you've owned 4 android phones. So you're obviously not a super noob. So my question to you is -
Did searching just not occur to you, or did you honestly believe you were not the 7,548th person to ask this question?
I am not asking about sense widgets because im aware that i need to have the sense framework running but im just wondering about the 2 apps Camera and Music. i know that enmothers rom gives you the option to install the 2 if you want and am just wondering if its possible to do the same for cyanogen.
also i have used the Sense Roms for the G2 but i was never really a fan of non Vanilla android.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
Enomther's TheOfficial has the option of both the HTC Camera and the HTC Music app - plus you can install the HTC IME (onscreen keyboard) easily as an APK (there's even a kitchen that lets you customize the colors and such).
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A couple of apps may have been REBUILT to work without sense, but its not an easy job and certainly isn't something a lot of people have done.
the HTC IME keyboard was pretty much an entire rewrite of the code based on what the htc one looked like, its not the apk from sense just moved over.
I can't comment on the camera or music, but I imagine these are the same.
Lennyuk said:
Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
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There has been a sense app ported to stock. Enom ported the HTC camera to his stock ROM for the Nexus... I remember running it.. That was a great ROM
Sorry, I see this has already been covered... But I know the app wasn't rewritten, it was a straight port, with the stock framework rewritten, so it was a straight app port
JD
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I really like the browser from sense, I use lpp for widgets so I'm good there. I asked about getting some sort of plug in for google translate onto vanilla browser and got nothing but flame. Hopefully gingie brings this to us... I mean is there any other plug ins other then flash? Honest question
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Short Version:
Making new Rom. instINCtive Rom? What features do you like? Include what apps? Include what mods? What features of other ROMs make them perfect for you?
Long Version:
Hey INC users. Since Redemptive Revolution hasn't been updated in a while, I've decided to abandon it as the base for my current theme/mod and upcoming themes/mods. (Sorry Lou, loved your rom, but i just need the newest of the new) I was trying to decide what ROM to switch to and I was drawn to the Re-Engineered ROM as it includes the newest version of jchisurf's power control pulldown mod (v2) that updates toggle status. For example, in Skyraider or Redemptive if you toggle wifi with a widget or in settings the pulldown will not reflect that change and will show the incorrect wifi state. In v2 of the mod which Re-Engineered has, this is fixed. Also I was drawn to the speed modifications and ram saving optimizations. HOWEVER, it is completely based on the EVO, and these types of ROMs do not work on my phone.
So, I decided to make my own ROM. In a way it's a kind of update to Redemptive Revolution, because that was my personal favorite ROM. Also, this way, I have a better understanding of what's going on internally when I try to make a theme and it will be easier for me.
So far the ROM is as follows (CONSTANTLY UPDATED) -
Most recent Incredible 2.2 base, all files are based on and from the most recent stock Incredible ROM except...
Framework-res.apk from the most recent EVO update (3.70 compared to redemptive's 3.30) with Jchisurf's power control pulldown mod v2 (updated from v1 found in redemptive)
Myn's Remappable Rosie (with some changes)
Custom Gingerbread-Sense Theme. Retains stock feel but darker and instead of solid greens there are green outlines and green glows. Gingerbread feel but completely custom by me. (Sense apps are not inverted like distINCtion)
"Reengineered" INC apps (not evo like in Reengineered Rom.
Inverted black and green Gmail.
Inverted black and green Facebook
Flashable distINCtion theme zip
Flashable distINCtive Acid theme zip (not released yet)
EDIT:
4in1 Reboot mod
Compressed powercontrol mod (saves space for notifications without losing functionality) (Ex removed those indicator bars and the space they were taking up... icons themselves will tell if enabled or not.)
Sensless Version in addition to Sense Version
Included Apps - Rom Manager, Titanium backup, XDA, Hulu modded flash, Skyraider Hulu app, Adobe Reader, ES File Manager, Pandora, Google suite of apps, Superuser, Call Confirm, DSP Manager, Facebook, Quickoffice, Spare Parts, Wireless tether... should i remove any? add more... if so what app?
***So my question is what else should I include? What would make this a good ROM choice for you? What features, mods, tweaks, or theme elements should i include/do you want? What stock apps should I include? Are there any other apps I should invert other than the ones i alread did? What do you think of instINCtive Rom as the name?***
Thank You!
I miss all the cool screen transitions from Incrom.
could you make a senseless version also?
A ROM with a full Bluetooth stack so I can use my wiimote with all the popular emulators and the modified flash.apk so I can view hulu videos. Oh yea, and the cool Gingerbread system shut down animation.
Smabbage said:
A ROM with a full Bluetooth stack so I can use my wiimote with all the popular emulators and the modified flash.apk so I can view hulu videos. Oh yea, and the cool Gingerbread system shut down animation.
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This ^^ with BT HID mouse & keyboard support & gingerbread sense.
I prefer as stock as possible, even without customized colors.. If I have an issue with the rom, I do not want to wonder if customizations are part of the problem.
Thx for the feedback.
Senseless version finished.
Added hulu modded flash. Now preinstalled .
And I'll look into BT
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Should I include...
Skyraider hulu app?
Titanium?
XDA app?
ROM Manager?
Others?
Also I have "re-engineered" the stock apps except they are inc apps instead of evo apps like on re engineered Rom
What apps are bloatware in all you opinions and should be removed?
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I say
include
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hulu app
and a sense-less version but looks like you already have that one..
and the BT stack for the WII mote.. etc.
thats bout it for me..lol
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Should I include...
Skyraider hulu app?
Titanium?
XDA app?
ROM Manager?
Others?
Also I have "re-engineered" the stock apps except they are inc apps instead of evo apps like on re engineered Rom
What apps are bloatware in all you opinions and should be removed?
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Definitely Titanium, XDA, ROM Manager, A file manager (EStrongs?), superuser with busybox ( a given I guess ), Pandora, Adfree Android, Dolphin Browser HD, Dropbox, the Google suite of apps (if they let you), a torch app, Quick Boot, and maybe Quadrant. All useful.
Bloat. Hmmm...
Amazonmp3, CityID, htcfootprints, Slacker Radio, My Verizon, Verizon Skype.
At least these are the apks I removed from the system when I rooted.
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Definitely Titanium, XDA, ROM Manager, A file manager (EStrongs?), superuser with busybox ( a given I guess ), Pandora, Adfree Android, Dolphin Browser HD, Dropbox, the Google suite of apps (if they let you), a torch app, Quick Boot, and maybe Quadrant. All useful.
Bloat. Hmmm...
Amazonmp3, CityID, htcfootprints, Slacker Radio, My Verizon, Verizon Skype.
At least these are the apks I removed from the system when I rooted.
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I won't include Adfree b/c the hosts file is already modified to block ads.
I don't see the purpose for quickboot when the 4in1 reboot mod is already included and quadrant is a pointless app IMHO. HTC flashlight included as a torch app.
As for Dolphin Browser HD and Dropbox... I don't know if those are completely universal apps that everyone uses.
Otherwise all the rest are good suggestions and I will include them thank you.
I'll do my best to "re-engineer" all the apps included, but for some less important ones i may save for a later update.
Assuming i can get permission from rmk, would the inclusion of virtuous buddy be a positive for you all?
THANKS! PLEASE KEEP THE ADVICE AND SUGGESTIONS COMING!
I updated the first post to reflect the changes I've made in the Rom and the apps that are preinstalled.
Let me know if there are any other features you want or apps to be preinstalled or removed.
Yeh screen transitions would be cool. Apps like quickoffice I don't think need to be there.
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I can't believe I forgot wifi tether and DSP Manager. I use them all the time.
I like the ROM name.
Additionally, perhaps one of the circle battery mods from this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819274&highlight=battery+mod
I love the way the status bar notification toggles look in skyraider 3.5 sense I'd love to see it have that look, no on else has it. it's perfect I think.
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A ROM with a full Bluetooth stack so I can use my wiimote with all the popular emulators and the modified flash.apk so I can view hulu videos. Oh yea, and the cool Gingerbread system shut down animation.
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+1 for full Bluetooth stack...it would be #1 rom
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not sure if this is possible or not but from the Z roms could it be possible to port over the DLNA "connected media" side of things, i know its integrated into the framework but i loved it on the z roms.
Other thing would be nice is the "recent apps" scroller in the pull down menu (i think SkyRaider already has this but i'm not 100% certain)
an inverted boot screen? maybe? been wanting to try one of those custom ones out but didn't want to get my hands dirty in that area
transparent icons/statusbar? (makes themeing the statusbar a lot easier without having to re-do all the icons to remove the black notification background
HTC's voicemail app? i've only seen it a couple of times in very few roms
Themed power control widget? (i've tried this and always had issues with it only stretching the graphic and not even making the buttons completely themed...)
eh, maybe i should include my grocery list lol j/k
great work and i can't wait to see it
What non stock and non google applications would you guys like "re-engineered"
Right now I've got the stock apps and the google apps along with pandora and facebook optimized and trimmed down.
Please suggest essential apps that don't update that often. I don't want to do this for every app in the market and for every update.
Edit: hah just owned the facebook app. Just cut that mofo's MBs in half. Oh and inverted it.
Have you had a chance to look into Bluetooth?
luke1987 said:
Have you had a chance to look into Bluetooth?
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Looks like HID bluetooth from CM6 conflicts with sense libraries. They don't work together. Tried messing with kernels... didn't work. It's beyond my abilities.
Sorry. Doesn't look good...
Guess i should just give up on making the rom huh? Alright I'll drag the folder to the trash.
Nooooooo
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I'm looking to remove all these extra apps and crap from my evo. With Sense 3.0 and GB and alot of apps were introduced since I've removed apps the last time.
I'm talking not only all the htc sense widgets but stuff like gsd.apk, fieltest.apk. I've looked through all the old listings but I have yet to find a complete GB and sense 3.0 listing.
Any help is appreciated.
Instead of stripping a sense ROM, why not just flash aosp? Prestripped with plenty of room for apps and whatnot. Just not as fancy looking as sense.
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was a list ever made?
Hi guys,
Is there any chance a ROM with vanilla ICS will be made. I dont think i like this Sense.. IMO, ics is better consumed in its pure glory.
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calypso666 said:
Hi guys,
Is there any chance a ROM with vanilla ICS will be made. I dont think i like this Sense.. IMO, ics is better consumed in its pure glory.
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I would personally like this as well, and I doubt we're alone... (And then provide apks for the stock HTC apps separately, so we can choose the ones we actually want to keep.)
knoxploration said:
(And then provide apks for the stock HTC apps separately, so we can choose the ones we actually want to keep.)
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It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
I'd say there is a very good chance we will get vanilla ICS roms - other Tegra3 devices are already getting them. Only difficulty will be the camera I imagine.
M.
Hopefully the device is popular enough for a CM9 official release.
Hopefully soon..that way I can update all my black&cyan themed gapp's
mattman83 said:
It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
I'd say there is a very good chance we will get vanilla ICS roms - other Tegra3 devices are already getting them. Only difficulty will be the camera I imagine.
M.
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There is "ics" roms based on Sense, that is all sense apps are replaced with ICS apps except where they are better (camera and album for instance) but everything else is ICS. And it works great, i have tested some of these on my evo (wich doesnt even have official ICS yet) so it is possible.
but those are sense based and the advantage is that all hardware works as well as stock but if you want pure AOSP you have to wait a month or two, or more, before a proper aosp kernel and compile from aosp is made.
Has htc released kernel-source for one x yet?
mattman83 said:
It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
I'd say there is a very good chance we will get vanilla ICS roms - other Tegra3 devices are already getting them. Only difficulty will be the camera I imagine.
M.
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I didn't say Sense, I said apps. I don't know exactly what apps are on the phone yet, and whether there's anything worth having; on my Asus tablet there's a bunch of crap, but there are also a few things (eg. Splashtop) that are worthwhile.
I hope so. S
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knoxploration said:
I didn't say Sense, I said apps. I don't know exactly what apps are on the phone yet, and whether there's anything worth having; on my Asus tablet there's a bunch of crap, but there are also a few things (eg. Splashtop) that are worthwhile.
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Yep, and the sense apps are all tied into the sense framework, which means you need a sense rom.
I don't think there is any question of whether or not this phone will be popular enough for CM9 to take it on board - this and the SGSIII are going to be the 2 biggest phones this year. It's just a matter of time before it happens.
M.
mattman83 said:
Yep, and the sense apps are all tied into the sense framework, which means you need a sense rom.
I don't think there is any question of whether or not this phone will be popular enough for CM9 to take it on board - this and the SGSIII are going to be the 2 biggest phones this year. It's just a matter of time before it happens.
M.
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In ICS you can dissable apps (essentialy uninstalling apps but they come back after a whipe) like for instance 3'rd party music-apps like soundhound etc.
But sense is there. rosie, clock app etc.
But most apps can also be added back from ICS from what i have seen, like clock, alarm, calendar, e-mail etc and thuss making a sense device "aosp" like without acctualy removing things you need from a sense based rom like binary drivers.
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It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
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What? oO
Ain't Sense just being another laucher app? Everything else basically being reskins and shameless rips of "unsensed" apps (like Twitter for sense and all that ****) ?
You can install another launcher, and use Titanium to kill/freeze most Sense apps. I use a ICS launcher from a N1 ICS rom. And it works fine. Wish I could replace the status bar / notification drawer as well tho.
Calibrae said:
What? oO
Ain't Sense just being another laucher app? Everything else basically being reskins and shameless rips of "unsensed" apps (like Twitter for sense and all that ****) ?
You can install another launcher, and use Titanium to kill/freeze most Sense apps. I use a ICS launcher from a N1 ICS rom. And it works fine. Wish I could replace the status bar / notification drawer as well tho.
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There is something called a framework. You can't use sense Widgets on another launcher because of it.
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Again, I wasn't referring to Sense apps. This is my first HTC phone; most other manufacturers usually bundle stock apps, I know HTC is bundling some free versions like TuneIn, but don't know if they also bundle any paid ones worth having. Those are what I'm referring to, NOT Sense.
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I'd also love a stock ics rom. Only thing that needs to be ported would be the camera app. Omg the app is just the best cam app. The stock camera app is useless in comparison.
Everything else can be scrapped
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KamikaZeeFu said:
I'd also love a stock ics rom. Only thing that needs to be ported would be the camera app. Omg the app is just the best cam app. The stock camera app is useless in comparison.
Everything else can be scrapped
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Not to belabor the point already raised in this thread, but the Sense Camera cannot be ported over to any other ROM. As previously mentioned, the Sense Camera is one of the apps that are inextricably tied to the overall Sense framework. You need to have a Sense-based ROM for the Sense Camera to work.
Just to save any potential heartache for people hoping to port it over to an AOSP-based ROM. Too many tears have been shed already-- many of them mine :]
I hope this happens...The day this ROM comes out for HTC ONE X...is the day i buy it!
OR SGS 3..whichever is quicker!
The ARHD Rom has a lite version stripped from sense.. try that in the development section
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Just to clarify here, there's "senseless" and then there's "AOSP".
Senseless is based on HTC stock rom but with many HTC apps removed and replaced with ICS stock. Many of the apps are better however you still have the same underlying framework, it's still a htc sense rom at the core.
AOSP is built from google source, there's not one line of sense in it. It's leaner, meaner, faster, better on battery, but it'll take alot longer to get it running properly. It WILL NOT support most HTC apps, particuarly the camera as these all tie into the HTC core (which doesn't exist in AOSP).
You cannot remove sense from a HTC rom, you can just remove the apps. It's like chopping the top off a weed but leaving the roots. You can't see it, but you still have weeds
M.
I have no idea what you are all talking about, but I know I need Vanilla!! Really hate SENSE...
If I had AOSP would it mean that my camera would not work at all? Or would it just mean that some of the SENSE functions would not be possible to use?
PoopTossnApe said:
I have no idea what you are all talking about, but I know I need Vanilla!! Really hate SENSE...
If I had AOSP would it mean that my camera would not work at all? Or would it just mean that some of the SENSE functions would not be possible to use?
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If you had a proper AOSP rom (like CM9, AOKP etc) then the camera would work to take photos and videos, but none of the dual record/high speed type stuff is likely to work. There may even be problems in early builds just trying to get it working, a dedicated imaging chip is quite unusual and depends on what architectural changes there are.
And, if you don't know what I'm talking about with senseless vs aosp, how can you even know that you *need* vanilla ics??
M.
I would suppose they add extra features, but nowhere in which they are mentioned do features seem to be mentioned as well. Consequently, I'm left very much confused. What sorts of things do custom ROMs add, specifically, and perhaps in more general terms, what are they?
(Sorry if this is in the wrong section, I wasn't quite sure where to post.)
Azhai said:
I would suppose they add extra features, but nowhere in which they are mentioned do features seem to be mentioned as well. Consequently, I'm left very much confused. What sorts of things do custom ROMs add, specifically, and perhaps in more general terms, what are they?
(Sorry if this is in the wrong section, I wasn't quite sure where to post.)
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The rom I'm on (MOAR) allows me to customize a lot of things that I couldn't change on a stock phone (notification panel, status bar, colors, battery style, etc). Some roms have themes that can be used to customize. Some roms don't allow for a lot of customization, but offer a debloated stock experience (with a lot of samsung/sprint bloat ware removed. Roms offer customized kernels.
My rom allows me to customize to my heart's content, and at the same time is built to make my phone run better.
Hope this helps...
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If you browse the XDA threads you will see there are a lot of benefits! One in particular is the hacked HOT SPOT!
I'm sure this looks like I'm asking to be spoonfed (I'm really just having trouble sorting through the overwhelming chaos of this forum), but could someone(s) post a recommendation(s) with a list of features and a link to a thread with install instructions?
Azhai said:
I'm sure this looks like I'm asking to be spoonfed (I'm really just having trouble sorting through the overwhelming chaos of this forum), but could someone(s) post a recommendation(s) with a list of features and a link to a thread with install instructions?
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All ROMS under original Android development section or android development section have full instructions to install. You must read carefully, instructions vary from ROM to ROM. There is a big difference between AOSP and TW based ROMs. If your not ready for the issues that may arise from running AOSP, I suggest modified TW ROMs. Most TW based ROMs are in Android development section. Any ROM that says 4.4 or above in either section is AOSP, because there is no official KitKat Samsung ROM yet.
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And the OP (original or first post) should show almost all the mods...
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