Hi guys,
Is there any chance a ROM with vanilla ICS will be made. I dont think i like this Sense.. IMO, ics is better consumed in its pure glory.
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calypso666 said:
Hi guys,
Is there any chance a ROM with vanilla ICS will be made. I dont think i like this Sense.. IMO, ics is better consumed in its pure glory.
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I would personally like this as well, and I doubt we're alone... (And then provide apks for the stock HTC apps separately, so we can choose the ones we actually want to keep.)
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(And then provide apks for the stock HTC apps separately, so we can choose the ones we actually want to keep.)
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It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
I'd say there is a very good chance we will get vanilla ICS roms - other Tegra3 devices are already getting them. Only difficulty will be the camera I imagine.
M.
Hopefully the device is popular enough for a CM9 official release.
Hopefully soon..that way I can update all my black&cyan themed gapp's
mattman83 said:
It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
I'd say there is a very good chance we will get vanilla ICS roms - other Tegra3 devices are already getting them. Only difficulty will be the camera I imagine.
M.
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There is "ics" roms based on Sense, that is all sense apps are replaced with ICS apps except where they are better (camera and album for instance) but everything else is ICS. And it works great, i have tested some of these on my evo (wich doesnt even have official ICS yet) so it is possible.
but those are sense based and the advantage is that all hardware works as well as stock but if you want pure AOSP you have to wait a month or two, or more, before a proper aosp kernel and compile from aosp is made.
Has htc released kernel-source for one x yet?
mattman83 said:
It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
I'd say there is a very good chance we will get vanilla ICS roms - other Tegra3 devices are already getting them. Only difficulty will be the camera I imagine.
M.
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I didn't say Sense, I said apps. I don't know exactly what apps are on the phone yet, and whether there's anything worth having; on my Asus tablet there's a bunch of crap, but there are also a few things (eg. Splashtop) that are worthwhile.
I hope so. S
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I didn't say Sense, I said apps. I don't know exactly what apps are on the phone yet, and whether there's anything worth having; on my Asus tablet there's a bunch of crap, but there are also a few things (eg. Splashtop) that are worthwhile.
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Yep, and the sense apps are all tied into the sense framework, which means you need a sense rom.
I don't think there is any question of whether or not this phone will be popular enough for CM9 to take it on board - this and the SGSIII are going to be the 2 biggest phones this year. It's just a matter of time before it happens.
M.
mattman83 said:
Yep, and the sense apps are all tied into the sense framework, which means you need a sense rom.
I don't think there is any question of whether or not this phone will be popular enough for CM9 to take it on board - this and the SGSIII are going to be the 2 biggest phones this year. It's just a matter of time before it happens.
M.
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In ICS you can dissable apps (essentialy uninstalling apps but they come back after a whipe) like for instance 3'rd party music-apps like soundhound etc.
But sense is there. rosie, clock app etc.
But most apps can also be added back from ICS from what i have seen, like clock, alarm, calendar, e-mail etc and thuss making a sense device "aosp" like without acctualy removing things you need from a sense based rom like binary drivers.
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It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
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What? oO
Ain't Sense just being another laucher app? Everything else basically being reskins and shameless rips of "unsensed" apps (like Twitter for sense and all that ****) ?
You can install another launcher, and use Titanium to kill/freeze most Sense apps. I use a ICS launcher from a N1 ICS rom. And it works fine. Wish I could replace the status bar / notification drawer as well tho.
Calibrae said:
What? oO
Ain't Sense just being another laucher app? Everything else basically being reskins and shameless rips of "unsensed" apps (like Twitter for sense and all that ****) ?
You can install another launcher, and use Titanium to kill/freeze most Sense apps. I use a ICS launcher from a N1 ICS rom. And it works fine. Wish I could replace the status bar / notification drawer as well tho.
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There is something called a framework. You can't use sense Widgets on another launcher because of it.
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Again, I wasn't referring to Sense apps. This is my first HTC phone; most other manufacturers usually bundle stock apps, I know HTC is bundling some free versions like TuneIn, but don't know if they also bundle any paid ones worth having. Those are what I'm referring to, NOT Sense.
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I'd also love a stock ics rom. Only thing that needs to be ported would be the camera app. Omg the app is just the best cam app. The stock camera app is useless in comparison.
Everything else can be scrapped
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KamikaZeeFu said:
I'd also love a stock ics rom. Only thing that needs to be ported would be the camera app. Omg the app is just the best cam app. The stock camera app is useless in comparison.
Everything else can be scrapped
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Not to belabor the point already raised in this thread, but the Sense Camera cannot be ported over to any other ROM. As previously mentioned, the Sense Camera is one of the apps that are inextricably tied to the overall Sense framework. You need to have a Sense-based ROM for the Sense Camera to work.
Just to save any potential heartache for people hoping to port it over to an AOSP-based ROM. Too many tears have been shed already-- many of them mine :]
I hope this happens...The day this ROM comes out for HTC ONE X...is the day i buy it!
OR SGS 3..whichever is quicker!
The ARHD Rom has a lite version stripped from sense.. try that in the development section
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Just to clarify here, there's "senseless" and then there's "AOSP".
Senseless is based on HTC stock rom but with many HTC apps removed and replaced with ICS stock. Many of the apps are better however you still have the same underlying framework, it's still a htc sense rom at the core.
AOSP is built from google source, there's not one line of sense in it. It's leaner, meaner, faster, better on battery, but it'll take alot longer to get it running properly. It WILL NOT support most HTC apps, particuarly the camera as these all tie into the HTC core (which doesn't exist in AOSP).
You cannot remove sense from a HTC rom, you can just remove the apps. It's like chopping the top off a weed but leaving the roots. You can't see it, but you still have weeds
M.
I have no idea what you are all talking about, but I know I need Vanilla!! Really hate SENSE...
If I had AOSP would it mean that my camera would not work at all? Or would it just mean that some of the SENSE functions would not be possible to use?
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I have no idea what you are all talking about, but I know I need Vanilla!! Really hate SENSE...
If I had AOSP would it mean that my camera would not work at all? Or would it just mean that some of the SENSE functions would not be possible to use?
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If you had a proper AOSP rom (like CM9, AOKP etc) then the camera would work to take photos and videos, but none of the dual record/high speed type stuff is likely to work. There may even be problems in early builds just trying to get it working, a dedicated imaging chip is quite unusual and depends on what architectural changes there are.
And, if you don't know what I'm talking about with senseless vs aosp, how can you even know that you *need* vanilla ics??
M.
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As a developer myself, just no in the tech field, I find it helpful to know what other want so that I can produce the best. I'm sure that most of you do this because it's something that YOU personally want and or like. I deeply appreciate the work that has gone into such wonderful ROM's and I can't wait to see more.
As for me, I've tried out RR, CM, SR, Frank, Jager, ASOP, and a few other odds and ends.
It seems to me there should be a blend. A blend between Sense and well....nonsense.
Currently, I'm on the Ultimate ASOP. This ROM has been amazing because of the ability to customize. Like every ROM, there are quirks or just small things that bother me, but it's SOOOO close to greatness, IMHO. I like a lot about a lot of ROMS but if they're lacking Sense then I miss that. If they have Sense, I miss the customizing of the Non Sense. My question is, can the two be made to be CommonSense?
What I'm talking about is a ROM that combines a little bit of the HTC Sense side with the applications and setting and customization of the Non HTC Sense ROMs. For instance, the email application in the Driod root IMHO opinion is much better then the Sense one. You can easily check multiple emails and the default background is back. What if you could have Sense, but change the lock screen to something different and be able to add different themes easily? There are several instances where the two could be combined to make CommonSense. And, if you have some ideas please share!
I guess i'm just looking for ideas from others that I can take a pitch to a Chef along with a few $$$ to make a ROM that'll do just that. Is there anyone else that thinks the same or I am the only one riding the HellaNoSense boat?
check out IncDoes AOSP. but you should have posted in q/a or general for future reference
This incredible forums is in desperate need for vanailla Roms AND ASOP kernels
DESPERATE NEED
VANILLA ROMS ARE THE BEST performing and give the most memory
we have great phones and we havent taken full advantage imo from what i have seen so far
i prefer a sense based rom with virtually every sense component gutted aside from dialer and contacts (and other key vital stuff). most users use launcher pro, yet most devs seem to focus their [sense] work around modified rosie. Which doesnt seem to make a ton of sense to me. im sure the launcher pro dev would allow the use of his work cooked into roms with his permission right?
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i prefer a sense based rom with virtually every sense component gutted aside from dialer and contacts (and other key vital stuff). most users use launcher pro, yet most devs seem to focus their [sense] work around modified rosie. Which doesnt seem to make a ton of sense to me. im sure the launcher pro dev would allow the use of his work cooked into roms with his permission right?
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actually no. LP isnt open source. thats also whay CM uses ADW rather than LP
How about a JD froyo MASH-UP! That wud b hot! You know, cause a phone that won't boot gets the best battery life
Edit: I LOVED SR vanilla, but it's a little long in the tooth... at least for now. I still have issues with AOSP stability. But I haven't flashed anything new in a month so maybe I'm full of it.
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This incredible forums is in desperate need for vanailla Roms AND ASOP kernels
DESPERATE NEED
VANILLA ROMS ARE THE BEST performing and give the most memory
we have great phones and we havent taken full advantage imo from what i have seen so far
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Yeap. This.
Minimalism.
Bare bones, minimal special effects, no clutter.
Basically a tiling WM or Openbox layout with basic text menus or no menus with touch commands.
Hopefully I'll be able to get into cooking whenever I get my machine in order. I've been wanting to actually contribute to some coding/hacking projects but I've never found anything of interest that would motivate me... until now :3
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... For instance, the email application in the Driod root IMHO opinion is much better then the Sense one. You can easily check multiple emails and the default background is back......
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FYI: the new Sense lets you multi select in the mail widget...Desire HD/Z
I love sense but need a landscape homescreen! I wish rosie could do this because adw and LP drive me nuts! Currently ruining SR. 3.3.3 but will make the switch when I find something that suits my needs...the reason...I frequently use a car dock and I'm on the road for at least2 hours a day
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All I would like is someone to modify the bluetooth stack to support bluetooth keyboards (I have an old iGo keyboard).
I'm still hoping for a webOS port even though that's probably not gonna happen ever
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lexdad86 said:
I'm still hoping for a webOS port even though that's probably not gonna happen ever
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Want. I just wish android took more looks from webOS. It is so beautiful!
The look & feel of the new Sense UI (The Desire Z ROM specifically), the fastest and most optimized speed possible, working camera w/ 720p video (only thing wrong with Desire Z ROM, imo), lots of free memory, clear of all the bloatware apps, aaaaaaaaaaaaand.... Ability to quickly change theme settings (transparency, selection colors, etc).
Oh, and great dev support.
ToyTank said:
How about a JD froyo MASH-UP! That wud b hot! You know, cause a phone that won't boot gets the best battery life
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Bahahaha!!
DS36 said:
This incredible forums is in desperate need for vanailla Roms AND ASOP kernels
DESPERATE NEED
VANILLA ROMS ARE THE BEST performing and give the most memory
we have great phones and we havent taken full advantage imo from what i have seen so far
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http://www.droidforums.net/forum/lithiummod/89559-lithium-mod-returns-more-devices.html
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My perfect rom would be:
Sense based Vanilla rom
htc keyboard
htc camera
htc gallery
htc contacts
either HTC facebook or contacts syncable with market facebook.
emmc working properly
adw built in
customizations avalable in cyanogen's latest rom
power widget built in to notification pull down.
figure out how to change the answer/silence to tabs
reboot option in power menu
6 signal bars
htc battery icon with %
keep the colored sense settings menu icons.
tab or rotary music controls (hidden when not in use)
thats all i can think of.
Having tried just about every ROM out there (and a couple of them a number of times) I think the problem I run into is there are little things here and there that I like about each.
All of our tastes are different, thus we like different things. Some people like the circle battery mod, some people like the rotary lock screen, etc etc...
What would be really cool is if there were a way to easily choose the specific mods you wanted... kinda like picking out options on a new car.
Ultimately, I think the answer is a dev that is willing to build you a custom ROM to your exact specifications. Of course, this would come with a price tag, but hey, it's exactly what you wanted (and it would be worth it IMO... any takers LOL).
In the meantime, I'm trying to figure out how to get what it is that I want and experiment. It's been fun, frustrating at times, and I still don't have everything I like, but at least we have lots of options to choose from, and I'm learning something new in the process
Is it not possible to build a Rom with a bunch of on off switches that allow you to select sense or no sense , or give you the option for circle battery vs stock ....
IMO.... this would be the ULTIMATE Rom .....
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@ The OP: Maybe you should initiate a poll.
is there any way to get sense apps like the Music, camera, and phone onto vanlla phones or on cyanogen
I was hoping there was a way to get the dialer from a sense rom onto any stock rom. I actually may try that out later this week and see if it works (doubtful).
It requires sense framework for the Widgets as I've asked this before, as far as camera mods and what not I've seen that on vanilla roms but I'm sure there are geniuses that dwell on XDA that could figure it out.
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Eventually, there will be hacked up ROMs with bits and pieces from every corner of the earth - I wanted the same thing on my Nexus (stock with the HTC cam) and there were a few options (though all had bugs here and there). Given the G2 was *just* permrooted, it might be a few weeks/months before you see some really creative ROMs.
Other stuff, like the lockscreen, can be changed with apps like widgetlocker and such.
You should definitely try out the Desire Z rom, though. It's all kinds of awesome, with new features that weren't there in previous versions of Sense. Hell, the camera app alone is worth it - makes the stock Android camera app look like a joke.
Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
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Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
Enomther's TheOfficial has the option of both the HTC Camera and the HTC Music app - plus you can install the HTC IME (onscreen keyboard) easily as an APK (there's even a kitchen that lets you customize the colors and such).
Your sig claims you've owned 4 android phones. So you're obviously not a super noob. So my question to you is -
Did searching just not occur to you, or did you honestly believe you were not the 7,548th person to ask this question?
I am not asking about sense widgets because im aware that i need to have the sense framework running but im just wondering about the 2 apps Camera and Music. i know that enmothers rom gives you the option to install the 2 if you want and am just wondering if its possible to do the same for cyanogen.
also i have used the Sense Roms for the G2 but i was never really a fan of non Vanilla android.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
Enomther's TheOfficial has the option of both the HTC Camera and the HTC Music app - plus you can install the HTC IME (onscreen keyboard) easily as an APK (there's even a kitchen that lets you customize the colors and such).
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A couple of apps may have been REBUILT to work without sense, but its not an easy job and certainly isn't something a lot of people have done.
the HTC IME keyboard was pretty much an entire rewrite of the code based on what the htc one looked like, its not the apk from sense just moved over.
I can't comment on the camera or music, but I imagine these are the same.
Lennyuk said:
Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
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There has been a sense app ported to stock. Enom ported the HTC camera to his stock ROM for the Nexus... I remember running it.. That was a great ROM
Sorry, I see this has already been covered... But I know the app wasn't rewritten, it was a straight port, with the stock framework rewritten, so it was a straight app port
JD
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I really like the browser from sense, I use lpp for widgets so I'm good there. I asked about getting some sort of plug in for google translate onto vanilla browser and got nothing but flame. Hopefully gingie brings this to us... I mean is there any other plug ins other then flash? Honest question
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I'm actually on AOKP build8, with Faux kernel, everything is fine, I like the look and feel (but missing the original HTC feeling, would love them to unbloat sense a bit and get to the origins...)
The one big thing missing (for many peoples I guess) is the Camera app...
Now here comes the question : haven't there been sens phones which camera app had been ported to aosp allready (like HTC Desire ?)
If this was possible then, isn't it now ? (while taking in consideration 4.0 is different from 2.X...
I'm just thinking to have a look at Venom (but hey, AOKP will get Jellybean much much faster )
Should I try Venom or is it justwaist of time ? Is there a way for the camera to beThanks for everything
ChriKn said:
I'm actually on AOKP build8, with Faux kernel, everything is fine, I like the look and feel (but missing the original HTC feeling, would love them to unbloat sense a bit and get to the origins...)
The one big thing missing (for many peoples I guess) is the Camera app...
Now here comes the question : haven't there been sens phones which camera app had been ported to aosp allready (like HTC Desire ?)
If this was possible then, isn't it now ? (while taking in consideration 4.0 is different from 2.X...
I'm just thinking to have a look at Venom (but hey, AOKP will get Jellybean much much faster )
Should I try Venom or is it justwaist of time ? Is there a way for the camera to beThanks for everything
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The HTC camera needs the Sense framework, so it's almost impossible to make it work. The only way to have the best of both worlds is to use a sense rom with an aosp theme.
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The HTC camera needs the Sense framework, so it's almost impossible to make it work. The only way to have the best of both worlds is to use a sense rom with an aosp theme.
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I know it need the senese framework, else I would not ask for it to be ported to AOSP
My question is not on how top prt it, but if a camera apk from sense has ever been ported outside of it.
I'm not too eager to go bck to sense, as multitasking is crap and just have 300MB more romsize for the camera ? Not sure...
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I know it need the senese framework, else I would not ask for it to be ported to AOSP
My question is not on how top prt it, but if a camera apk from sense has ever been ported outside of it.
I'm not too eager to go bck to sense, as multitasking is crap and just have 300MB more romsize for the camera ? Not sure...
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This will not happen due to the closed drivers. Hence why on most aosp and aokp roms on any device we rarely see the stock applications running on them.
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im bit late, but its possible (maybe just WAS with older versios): www.androidcentral.com/get-htc-desire-camera-nexus-one-without-loading-htc-sense
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The Sense camera app is the reason im not using a custom rom yet, I want to use Epsilon Project (based on AOKP 4.1.2), but I want the sense camera, it is sad to hear that it is imposible to do this :crying:
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The Sense camera app is the reason im not using a custom rom yet, I want to use Epsilon Project (based on AOKP 4.1.2), but I want the sense camera, it is sad to hear that it is imposible to do this :crying:
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EpsilonProject has a pretty nice camera that makes me forget the Sense one.
I only need to figure out how to disable face recognition.
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I could only a sense Rom from epsilonproject, are you sure that it isn't the sense cam?
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MetinKale38 said:
I could only a sense Rom from epsilonproject, are you sure that it isn't the sense cam?
Tapatalked with my HTC Desire
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You have also this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030904
but why dont you install a APK for good camera ??
camera + ?
I recently updated my wife's Desire HD with an AOSP ROM. I hadn't realised just how good Android has become without any manufacturer customisation. After playing around with the ROM for a while I was disappointed to go back to Sense on my One X. The default Google UI just feels very modern and consistent. Sense feels outdated.
I've looked around for the current best AOSP ROM for the One X, or an HTC based ROM with most Sense stuff removed. After looking at several I'm only more confused, all have pros and cons.
So, advice welcomed, what's good for an AOSP style experience right now? (A working camera is essential)
U can use ViperX ROM with apex launcher and geenyous aosp theme, the ROM is super fast, looks like aosp and has got the HTC camera app.
U can alternatively use cm9 or if u want jelly bean, then use cm10 by tbalden.
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I'd suggest domination rom by owain if customization is your thing, or tgascoigne's aosp jelly been port if you like stable, streamlined, stock android, no tweaks.
All roms on the forum have a working camera and almost no bugs thanks to the awesome devs we have working on the HOX.
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To everyone saying 'camera is essential' - if it's essential you'll have a proper camera. To rely on a phone is just silly
I find Trips roms are always fantastic. This is his Jelly Bean rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784185, I believe the camera might not be working in the current version, however, a camera app off the market should work fine instead.
Thank for the advice guys, I'll look into those ROMs
EddyOS said:
To everyone saying 'camera is essential' - if it's essential you'll have a proper camera. To rely on a phone is just silly
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I'm a really keen amateur photographer and carry my Canon 60D, G12 or Ixus with me a lot. Carrying one of them at all times isn't feasible though.
There are plenty of times when you don't expect to be taking photos but the opportunity arises. Finally having a respectable camera on a phone (such as the HOX) makes sure you don't lose the moment. It's also nice to be able take photos and email them on the spot.
nickynoodles said:
Thank for the advice guys, I'll look into those ROMs
I'm a really keen amateur photographer and carry my Canon 60D, G12 or Ixus with me a lot. Carrying one of them at all times isn't feasible though.
There are plenty of times when you don't expect to be taking photos but the opportunity arises. Finally having a respectable camera on a phone (such as the HOX) makes sure you don't lose the moment. It's also nice to be able take photos and email them on the spot.
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try MIUI and you still get to keep the sense camera
Goku80 said:
try MIUI and you still get to keep the sense camera
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How so? I thought the sense camera required the sense framework
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I don't recommend a JB rom atm if camera is necessary. There are crashes and sometimes the pics taken are gibberish. I had to use my camera to take photos of some documents(no scanner nearby ) and got annoyed with the above problem.
ICS 4.1 roms are best.
Give Ice Cold Jelly a try. Camera is working fine for me. Is it sense camera you want to keep, or just need a working camera?
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How so? I thought the sense camera required the sense framework
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Because MIUI build their ROM on-top of official releases from the different manufacturers.
For Sense ROM go to viperX or ARHD .. for AOSP go to Domination
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Give Ice Cold Jelly a try. Camera is working fine for me. Is it sense camera you want to keep, or just need a working camera?
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Any camera will do. Ice Cold Jelly looks good, will give it a try at the weekend.
There is no such thing as best ROM every ROM is good in it's own aspect. Because of these comparison we lot a great Kernel developer.
stezo2k said:
How so? I thought the sense camera required the sense framework
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yep and the MIUI is based on sense framework mate
rohitbalan said:
U can use ViperX ROM with apex launcher and geenyous aosp theme, the ROM is super fast, looks like aosp and has got the HTC camera app.
U can alternatively use cm9 or if u want jelly bean, then use cm10 by tbalden.
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ViperX custom install with geenyous aosp theme mod. Sense camera with full edit (Hq mod camera built in too)
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jimmy-boi said:
I find Trips roms are always fantastic. This is his Jelly Bean rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784185, I believe the camera might not be working in the current version, however, a camera app off the market should work fine instead.
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Poor Trip is the victim of failure to read. The boot.img and modules (kernel) in his CM10 ROM has everything working fine. He has a 3.x kernel which is not 100% yet. For some reason people keep posting the same kernel bugs that are already known in his ROM thread.
The ROM is fine and I am using the 009 kernel and it's perfect.
I highly recommend cm10 endeavor unleashed by trip raver (tripndroid mobile engineering) fast, smooth and solid reliability.
I didn't think I'd root my One X but I too just got bored with sense. I have a comprehensive understanding of branding principles but I think HTC take the concept too far with every phone for about 4 years having only slight changes in UI. When I buy a new phone I want it to feel new when I use it. Time to drop Sense and come up with something new.
Goku80 said:
yep and the MIUI is based on sense framework mate
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I stand corrected
Does anyone have any recommendations on which one I should try?
I've read through the forums for both of them. Just trying to get a feel for what everyone else thinks about them
dva010 said:
Does anyone have any recommendations on which one I should try?
I've read through the forums for both of them. Just trying to get a feel for what everyone else thinks about them
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They're both pretty similar in my opinion at the current time but I think Eclipse might be getting more customization soon, the NOS version hasn't been updated for a while and I think I saw he might be waiting till it can be updated to 4.3 so depends on how much customization you want I suppose.
fatmando2 said:
They're both pretty similar in my opinion at the current time but I think Eclipse might be getting more customization soon, the NOS version hasn't been updated for a while and I think I saw he might be waiting till it can be updated to 4.3 so depends on how much customization you want I suppose.
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Any idea on if the HTC TV app can be installed onto Eclipse's GPE rom? I had seen that NOS made the HTC TV available. Since they're basically the same, I figured it could be possible. Didn't know if anyone else had tried it yet?
dva010 said:
Any idea on if the HTC TV app can be installed onto Eclipse's GPE rom? I had seen that NOS made the HTC TV available. Since they're basically the same, I figured it could be possible. Didn't know if anyone else had tried it yet?
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I'm pretty sure that the TV app is included in the rom but I'm not positive.
fatmando2 said:
I'm pretty sure that the TV app is included in the rom but I'm not positive.
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No big deal. I'll give it a look and maybe test it out myself if it's not included. Thanks
dva010 said:
Any idea on if the HTC TV app can be installed onto Eclipse's GPE rom? I had seen that NOS made the HTC TV available. Since they're basically the same, I figured it could be possible. Didn't know if anyone else had tried it yet?
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I don't touch AOSP ROMs, just never liked them on a phone with such great software, Sense 5 is really nice upgrade from 4.1+ which I wasn't a huge fan of many things.
Reading the OP of a ROM though does wonders...
"All of my source for modded apps can be found at http://github.com/nitroglycerine33
Overview
Jellybean 4.2.2 Google Play Edition based
Deodexed, zipaligned, rooted.. etc..
Removed non-essential Google Apps and languages
Extended power menu
T9 inverted Dialer from Eclipse AOSP source
Quick-reply inverted Mms from Eclipse AOSP source
Added HTC IR blaster control
Sense Calendar
Sense Browser
Inverted Eclipse AOSP Email
CM File Manager
Lock Clock widgets
4.3 Photosphere camera
init.d support
More to come!! "
I have tried both, but Eclipse had several issues on my phone. I don't really like the inverted apps, but I didn't mind. The straw that broke the camel's back was when my messaging app just disappeared after a random reboot. I'm on NOS now, with no problems.
I've been using eclipse with xposed and gravity box. I've had no issues and really like it.
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I noticed lag when I tried Eclipse GPE. I have a TW based Eclipse on my S4, which is awesome. Hopefully the developer does a Sense-based Eclipse.
mtva24 said:
I noticed lag when I tried Eclipse GPE. I have a TW based Eclipse on my S4, which is awesome. Hopefully the developer does a Sense-based Eclipse.
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Check his site
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I tried both of them yesterday. With Eclipse and NOS I was getting horrible data connection which seems to be the norm with alot of the Roms so far since it's still fairly early with development for the VZW One. Eclipse had more problems than NOS. It was constantly switching me to WCDMA and even using the LTE Toggle app wasn't correcting the issue. This got annoying quick. Every Rom I've tried so far has been pretty bad with data, except for Andy's BoneStock Rom.
Just gotta be patient though, soon there will be stable versions popping up everywhere.
Gonna stick with Bonestock for now
andybones said:
I don't touch AOSP ROMs, just never liked them on a phone with such great software, Sense 5 is really nice upgrade from 4.1+ which I wasn't a huge fan of many things.
Reading the OP of a ROM though does wonders...
"All of my source for modded apps can be found at http://github.com/nitroglycerine33
Overview
Jellybean 4.2.2 Google Play Edition based
Deodexed, zipaligned, rooted.. etc..
Removed non-essential Google Apps and languages
Extended power menu
T9 inverted Dialer from Eclipse AOSP source
Quick-reply inverted Mms from Eclipse AOSP source
Added HTC IR blaster control
Sense Calendar
Sense Browser
Inverted Eclipse AOSP Email
CM File Manager
Lock Clock widgets
4.3 Photosphere camera
init.d support
More to come!! "
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My bad Andy. Just must have overlooked it.
BTW keep up the good work with Bonestock. You're the reason I'm done with AOSP on this phone.
dva010 said:
Does anyone have any recommendations on which one I should try?
I've read through the forums for both of them. Just trying to get a feel for what everyone else thinks about them
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Trying them both is the only way you're going to find out. Everyone has a different viewpoint.
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Personally I'm loving eclipse. I have had one data issue that just randomly appeared and kept me stuck in roaming, I just re flashed and all has been well since. I flashed a few before I fell in love with eclipse, just my 2 cents.
Both ROMS are pretty good imo. Only problems are data and battery life.
Sonic2756 said:
Both ROMS are pretty good imo. Only problems are data and battery life.
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"Only" problems? Those seem like pretty big problems to me.
To answer the OP - neither. NuSenseONE for the win (Android 4.3, Sense 5.5). Everything works, great battery life, updated frequently, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505541
mrjinglesusa said:
"Only" problems? Those seem like pretty big problems to me.
To answer the OP - neither. NuSenseONE for the win (Android 4.3, Sense 5.5). Everything works, great battery life, updated frequently, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505541
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If that ROM didn't have a blue theme I would be using it. Currently on NOS.
Running Santod 4.3 and battery life is ok but I know santod will continue to work on that. After all he took the leaked ics for the bolt and made the battery life a hundred times better.
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mrjinglesusa said:
"Only" problems? Those seem like pretty big problems to me.
To answer the OP - neither. NuSenseONE for the win (Android 4.3, Sense 5.5). Everything works, great battery life, updated frequently, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505541
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Probably should have been a bit more descriptive.
Battery isn't horrible. It's just a bit worse than that of a sense rom. Same with data. Isn't horrible, just isn't as good as sense.
Sonic2756 said:
Probably should have been a bit more descriptive.
Battery isn't horrible. It's just a bit worse than that of a sense rom. Same with data. Isn't horrible, just isn't as good as sense.
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I'll second that. Battery life is not bad at all. But battery life on sense seems to be better. I haven't had any problems with data whatsoever.