Does anyone have any recommendations on which one I should try?
I've read through the forums for both of them. Just trying to get a feel for what everyone else thinks about them
dva010 said:
Does anyone have any recommendations on which one I should try?
I've read through the forums for both of them. Just trying to get a feel for what everyone else thinks about them
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They're both pretty similar in my opinion at the current time but I think Eclipse might be getting more customization soon, the NOS version hasn't been updated for a while and I think I saw he might be waiting till it can be updated to 4.3 so depends on how much customization you want I suppose.
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They're both pretty similar in my opinion at the current time but I think Eclipse might be getting more customization soon, the NOS version hasn't been updated for a while and I think I saw he might be waiting till it can be updated to 4.3 so depends on how much customization you want I suppose.
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Any idea on if the HTC TV app can be installed onto Eclipse's GPE rom? I had seen that NOS made the HTC TV available. Since they're basically the same, I figured it could be possible. Didn't know if anyone else had tried it yet?
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Any idea on if the HTC TV app can be installed onto Eclipse's GPE rom? I had seen that NOS made the HTC TV available. Since they're basically the same, I figured it could be possible. Didn't know if anyone else had tried it yet?
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I'm pretty sure that the TV app is included in the rom but I'm not positive.
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I'm pretty sure that the TV app is included in the rom but I'm not positive.
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No big deal. I'll give it a look and maybe test it out myself if it's not included. Thanks
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Any idea on if the HTC TV app can be installed onto Eclipse's GPE rom? I had seen that NOS made the HTC TV available. Since they're basically the same, I figured it could be possible. Didn't know if anyone else had tried it yet?
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I don't touch AOSP ROMs, just never liked them on a phone with such great software, Sense 5 is really nice upgrade from 4.1+ which I wasn't a huge fan of many things.
Reading the OP of a ROM though does wonders...
"All of my source for modded apps can be found at http://github.com/nitroglycerine33
Overview
Jellybean 4.2.2 Google Play Edition based
Deodexed, zipaligned, rooted.. etc..
Removed non-essential Google Apps and languages
Extended power menu
T9 inverted Dialer from Eclipse AOSP source
Quick-reply inverted Mms from Eclipse AOSP source
Added HTC IR blaster control
Sense Calendar
Sense Browser
Inverted Eclipse AOSP Email
CM File Manager
Lock Clock widgets
4.3 Photosphere camera
init.d support
More to come!! "
I have tried both, but Eclipse had several issues on my phone. I don't really like the inverted apps, but I didn't mind. The straw that broke the camel's back was when my messaging app just disappeared after a random reboot. I'm on NOS now, with no problems.
I've been using eclipse with xposed and gravity box. I've had no issues and really like it.
Sent from my Eclipsed Verizon HTC One.
I noticed lag when I tried Eclipse GPE. I have a TW based Eclipse on my S4, which is awesome. Hopefully the developer does a Sense-based Eclipse.
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I noticed lag when I tried Eclipse GPE. I have a TW based Eclipse on my S4, which is awesome. Hopefully the developer does a Sense-based Eclipse.
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Check his site
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I tried both of them yesterday. With Eclipse and NOS I was getting horrible data connection which seems to be the norm with alot of the Roms so far since it's still fairly early with development for the VZW One. Eclipse had more problems than NOS. It was constantly switching me to WCDMA and even using the LTE Toggle app wasn't correcting the issue. This got annoying quick. Every Rom I've tried so far has been pretty bad with data, except for Andy's BoneStock Rom.
Just gotta be patient though, soon there will be stable versions popping up everywhere.
Gonna stick with Bonestock for now
andybones said:
I don't touch AOSP ROMs, just never liked them on a phone with such great software, Sense 5 is really nice upgrade from 4.1+ which I wasn't a huge fan of many things.
Reading the OP of a ROM though does wonders...
"All of my source for modded apps can be found at http://github.com/nitroglycerine33
Overview
Jellybean 4.2.2 Google Play Edition based
Deodexed, zipaligned, rooted.. etc..
Removed non-essential Google Apps and languages
Extended power menu
T9 inverted Dialer from Eclipse AOSP source
Quick-reply inverted Mms from Eclipse AOSP source
Added HTC IR blaster control
Sense Calendar
Sense Browser
Inverted Eclipse AOSP Email
CM File Manager
Lock Clock widgets
4.3 Photosphere camera
init.d support
More to come!! "
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My bad Andy. Just must have overlooked it.
BTW keep up the good work with Bonestock. You're the reason I'm done with AOSP on this phone.
dva010 said:
Does anyone have any recommendations on which one I should try?
I've read through the forums for both of them. Just trying to get a feel for what everyone else thinks about them
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Trying them both is the only way you're going to find out. Everyone has a different viewpoint.
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Personally I'm loving eclipse. I have had one data issue that just randomly appeared and kept me stuck in roaming, I just re flashed and all has been well since. I flashed a few before I fell in love with eclipse, just my 2 cents.
Both ROMS are pretty good imo. Only problems are data and battery life.
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Both ROMS are pretty good imo. Only problems are data and battery life.
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"Only" problems? Those seem like pretty big problems to me.
To answer the OP - neither. NuSenseONE for the win (Android 4.3, Sense 5.5). Everything works, great battery life, updated frequently, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505541
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"Only" problems? Those seem like pretty big problems to me.
To answer the OP - neither. NuSenseONE for the win (Android 4.3, Sense 5.5). Everything works, great battery life, updated frequently, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505541
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If that ROM didn't have a blue theme I would be using it. Currently on NOS.
Running Santod 4.3 and battery life is ok but I know santod will continue to work on that. After all he took the leaked ics for the bolt and made the battery life a hundred times better.
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mrjinglesusa said:
"Only" problems? Those seem like pretty big problems to me.
To answer the OP - neither. NuSenseONE for the win (Android 4.3, Sense 5.5). Everything works, great battery life, updated frequently, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505541
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Probably should have been a bit more descriptive.
Battery isn't horrible. It's just a bit worse than that of a sense rom. Same with data. Isn't horrible, just isn't as good as sense.
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Probably should have been a bit more descriptive.
Battery isn't horrible. It's just a bit worse than that of a sense rom. Same with data. Isn't horrible, just isn't as good as sense.
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I'll second that. Battery life is not bad at all. But battery life on sense seems to be better. I haven't had any problems with data whatsoever.
Related
I thought it would be fun to take a poll to see which ROM folks in this forum think is best...
Baked Snacks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701685
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Baked Snacks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701685
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What makes you prefer Baked Snack? I'm not doubting your choice, just curious what makes it better than the others.
Been using Calk's builds for a long time now. Seems my taste in ROMs is very similar to his. Keep in mind "the best" is extremely subjective.
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Been using Calk's builds for a long time now. Seems my taste in ROMs is very similar to his. Keep in mind "the best" is extremely subjective.
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Of course... It seems there are a few popular ones out there, and then a lot of "second tier" ROM's. What makes Calk's builds "the best" for you?
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Of course... It seems there are a few popular ones out there, and then a lot of "second tier" ROM's. What makes Calk's builds "the best" for you?
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I like the combination of performance and battery life of the kernel he chose to use. He also does an awesome job getting a bunch of graphical changes for the "cool" factor too.
Beyond the ROM, Calk contributes a lot of other things to the community. He's been making kitchen and kitchen development tools for the Windows Mobile groups for a while and I was very pleased to see him come to the Android team at the same time I made the leap. It's a big change for people like me that have been Windows Mobile sideline hackers for a while and it's really nice to see a familiar face.
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I like the combination of performance and battery life of the kernel he chose to use. He also does an awesome job getting a bunch of graphical changes for the "cool" factor too.
Beyond the ROM, Calk contributes a lot of other things to the community. He's been making kitchen and kitchen development tools for the Windows Mobile groups for a while and I was very pleased to see him come to the Android team at the same time I made the leap. It's a big change for people like me that have been Windows Mobile sideline hackers for a while and it's really nice to see a familiar face.
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Good info... I'm currently running CM6 and loving it, but I'm torn what to try next... EViO, Baked Snack and VaelPak are all possibilities.
None of the ROM's really have the exact thing I want. Ideally, I'd like a ROM that has the following:
- Sense E-mail App
- Sense Calendar App
- Sense Lock Screen
- Sense Status Bar (with Custom Battery Icon)
- AOSP Contacts & Dialer
- AOSP Messaging (SMS/MMS)
- AOSP Gallery
- 4G Support
- FM Radio
- WiFi/Wired Tether
- Sprint Bloatware Removed (apart from Sprint TV)
- ADK Laucher (easy to add after the fact)
Any ideas on how to get this? I wish I was a Dev... I would build my own
Matt_TX said:
Good info... I'm currently running CM6 and loving it, but I'm torn what to try next... EViO, Baked Snack and VaelPak are all possibilities.
None of the ROM's really have the exact thing I want. Ideally, I'd like a ROM that has the following:
- Sense E-mail App
- Sense Calendar App
- Sense Lock Screen
- Sense Status Bar (with Custom Battery Icon)
- AOSP Contacts & Dialer
- AOSP Messaging (SMS/MMS)
- AOSP Gallery
- 4G Support
- FM Radio
- WiFi/Wired Tether
- Sprint Bloatware Removed (apart from Sprint TV)
- ADK Laucher (easy to add after the fact)
Any ideas on how to get this? I wish I was a Dev... I would build my own
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I would think that this wouldn't be that tough. Try starting with a Sense ROM, pull out the dialer/messaging/gallery and whatever else you don't want, then install the AOSP apps you want. I'm sure the apk's can be found around here.
Where is the love for Burnt Droid - by netarchy?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745738
Simple Sense ROM with great firmware, and a couple nice apps tacked on.
JTNiggle said:
I would think that this wouldn't be that tough. Try starting with a Sense ROM, pull out the dialer/messaging/gallery and whatever else you don't want, then install the AOSP apps you want. I'm sure the apk's can be found around here.
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Is it as simple as just uninstalling the Sense apk's that I don't want and installing the AOSP ones? If so, I can probably restore the apps I want from a Titanium backup of CM6. For some reason I thought it was more involved that that - especially with the AOSP Contacts & Dialer.
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I like the combination of performance and battery life of the kernel he chose to use. He also does an awesome job getting a bunch of graphical changes for the "cool" factor too.
Beyond the ROM, Calk contributes a lot of other things to the community. He's been making kitchen and kitchen development tools for the Windows Mobile groups for a while and I was very pleased to see him come to the Android team at the same time I made the leap. It's a big change for people like me that have been Windows Mobile sideline hackers for a while and it's really nice to see a familiar face.
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Agree entirely with Dissenter. Calk brings a lot to the table.
Really enjoyed Hero's early EVO work and Baked is still great. Also used Cyanogen on my G1 forever, but Calk's stuff has been stable, fast and clean (at least for me) as long or longer than anyone else on EVO. It is a beautiful thing. I had problems with most of the other ROMs, but for the EVO, Hero and Calk always seem to have there kitchens working.
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Agree entirely with Dissenter. Calk brings a lot to the table.
Really enjoyed Hero's early EVO work and Baked is still great. Also used Cyanogen on my G1 forever, but Calk's stuff has been stable, fast and clean (at least for me) as long or longer than anyone else on EVO. It is a beautiful thing. I had problems with most of the other ROMs, but for the EVO, Hero and Calk always seem to have there kitchens working.
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So, what would you say are the pros/cons of EViO vs. Baked Snack?
there is a fine line between the "best rom" and my "favorite rom"
best i have had was a stock rooted rom, granted it wasnt fast but it had everything working and no bugs that i could find ...
my fav has been CM6 ... fast and snappy ... but lacking the Fm radio and 4G i disire ...
i have a hard time finding a big difference between sense roms ... but thats just me, i'm slow on this stuff still
I like Fresh 3.2
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ThrowingKs said:
Where is the love for Burnt Droid - by netarchy?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745738
Simple Sense ROM with great firmware, and a couple nice apps tacked on.
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Ya, where's the love?
I prefer my evo burnt for sure.
modded fresh for me. Dude is on point with his ROMs.
Gotta have my Apps2SD support.
Thinking about coming out with my own ROM based solely off of his as a base.
Evio cured my flashaholic's issues for a while, but with Baked Snack update and the Evio update its tough, i have to give the slight edge to fresh right now because of the new release, that thing is sick. I am pumped once that thing hits the street its going to be on! Too many choices is a good thing as i think the Evo is THE android device to have with all the Dev support
My two cents
1. Fresh 3.28
1.a Evio
1.a Baked Snacks
YMMV
Matt_TX said:
Good info... I'm currently running CM6 and loving it, but I'm torn what to try next... EViO, Baked Snack and VaelPak are all possibilities.
None of the ROM's really have the exact thing I want. Ideally, I'd like a ROM that has the following:
- Sense E-mail App
- Sense Calendar App
- Sense Lock Screen
- Sense Status Bar (with Custom Battery Icon)
- AOSP Contacts & Dialer
- AOSP Messaging (SMS/MMS)
- AOSP Gallery
- 4G Support
- FM Radio
- WiFi/Wired Tether
- Sprint Bloatware Removed (apart from Sprint TV)
- ADK Laucher (easy to add after the fact)
Any ideas on how to get this? I wish I was a Dev... I would build my own
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Evio = pure win
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EViO2 is the best! Everything works and its a speed demon. Its the fastest 2.2 and smoothest I have ever used.
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i can't even imagine what hero and calk can do with that new release! Damn it feels good to be a gangsta
wsantiagow said:
EViO2 is the best! Everything works and its a speed demon. Its the fastest 2.2 and smoothest I have ever used.
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Hi guys,
Is there any chance a ROM with vanilla ICS will be made. I dont think i like this Sense.. IMO, ics is better consumed in its pure glory.
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calypso666 said:
Hi guys,
Is there any chance a ROM with vanilla ICS will be made. I dont think i like this Sense.. IMO, ics is better consumed in its pure glory.
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I would personally like this as well, and I doubt we're alone... (And then provide apks for the stock HTC apps separately, so we can choose the ones we actually want to keep.)
knoxploration said:
(And then provide apks for the stock HTC apps separately, so we can choose the ones we actually want to keep.)
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It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
I'd say there is a very good chance we will get vanilla ICS roms - other Tegra3 devices are already getting them. Only difficulty will be the camera I imagine.
M.
Hopefully the device is popular enough for a CM9 official release.
Hopefully soon..that way I can update all my black&cyan themed gapp's
mattman83 said:
It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
I'd say there is a very good chance we will get vanilla ICS roms - other Tegra3 devices are already getting them. Only difficulty will be the camera I imagine.
M.
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There is "ics" roms based on Sense, that is all sense apps are replaced with ICS apps except where they are better (camera and album for instance) but everything else is ICS. And it works great, i have tested some of these on my evo (wich doesnt even have official ICS yet) so it is possible.
but those are sense based and the advantage is that all hardware works as well as stock but if you want pure AOSP you have to wait a month or two, or more, before a proper aosp kernel and compile from aosp is made.
Has htc released kernel-source for one x yet?
mattman83 said:
It never works like this. You either have sense or you don't.
I'd say there is a very good chance we will get vanilla ICS roms - other Tegra3 devices are already getting them. Only difficulty will be the camera I imagine.
M.
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I didn't say Sense, I said apps. I don't know exactly what apps are on the phone yet, and whether there's anything worth having; on my Asus tablet there's a bunch of crap, but there are also a few things (eg. Splashtop) that are worthwhile.
I hope so. S
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I didn't say Sense, I said apps. I don't know exactly what apps are on the phone yet, and whether there's anything worth having; on my Asus tablet there's a bunch of crap, but there are also a few things (eg. Splashtop) that are worthwhile.
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Yep, and the sense apps are all tied into the sense framework, which means you need a sense rom.
I don't think there is any question of whether or not this phone will be popular enough for CM9 to take it on board - this and the SGSIII are going to be the 2 biggest phones this year. It's just a matter of time before it happens.
M.
mattman83 said:
Yep, and the sense apps are all tied into the sense framework, which means you need a sense rom.
I don't think there is any question of whether or not this phone will be popular enough for CM9 to take it on board - this and the SGSIII are going to be the 2 biggest phones this year. It's just a matter of time before it happens.
M.
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In ICS you can dissable apps (essentialy uninstalling apps but they come back after a whipe) like for instance 3'rd party music-apps like soundhound etc.
But sense is there. rosie, clock app etc.
But most apps can also be added back from ICS from what i have seen, like clock, alarm, calendar, e-mail etc and thuss making a sense device "aosp" like without acctualy removing things you need from a sense based rom like binary drivers.
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What? oO
Ain't Sense just being another laucher app? Everything else basically being reskins and shameless rips of "unsensed" apps (like Twitter for sense and all that ****) ?
You can install another launcher, and use Titanium to kill/freeze most Sense apps. I use a ICS launcher from a N1 ICS rom. And it works fine. Wish I could replace the status bar / notification drawer as well tho.
Calibrae said:
What? oO
Ain't Sense just being another laucher app? Everything else basically being reskins and shameless rips of "unsensed" apps (like Twitter for sense and all that ****) ?
You can install another launcher, and use Titanium to kill/freeze most Sense apps. I use a ICS launcher from a N1 ICS rom. And it works fine. Wish I could replace the status bar / notification drawer as well tho.
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There is something called a framework. You can't use sense Widgets on another launcher because of it.
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Again, I wasn't referring to Sense apps. This is my first HTC phone; most other manufacturers usually bundle stock apps, I know HTC is bundling some free versions like TuneIn, but don't know if they also bundle any paid ones worth having. Those are what I'm referring to, NOT Sense.
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I'd also love a stock ics rom. Only thing that needs to be ported would be the camera app. Omg the app is just the best cam app. The stock camera app is useless in comparison.
Everything else can be scrapped
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KamikaZeeFu said:
I'd also love a stock ics rom. Only thing that needs to be ported would be the camera app. Omg the app is just the best cam app. The stock camera app is useless in comparison.
Everything else can be scrapped
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Not to belabor the point already raised in this thread, but the Sense Camera cannot be ported over to any other ROM. As previously mentioned, the Sense Camera is one of the apps that are inextricably tied to the overall Sense framework. You need to have a Sense-based ROM for the Sense Camera to work.
Just to save any potential heartache for people hoping to port it over to an AOSP-based ROM. Too many tears have been shed already-- many of them mine :]
I hope this happens...The day this ROM comes out for HTC ONE X...is the day i buy it!
OR SGS 3..whichever is quicker!
The ARHD Rom has a lite version stripped from sense.. try that in the development section
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Just to clarify here, there's "senseless" and then there's "AOSP".
Senseless is based on HTC stock rom but with many HTC apps removed and replaced with ICS stock. Many of the apps are better however you still have the same underlying framework, it's still a htc sense rom at the core.
AOSP is built from google source, there's not one line of sense in it. It's leaner, meaner, faster, better on battery, but it'll take alot longer to get it running properly. It WILL NOT support most HTC apps, particuarly the camera as these all tie into the HTC core (which doesn't exist in AOSP).
You cannot remove sense from a HTC rom, you can just remove the apps. It's like chopping the top off a weed but leaving the roots. You can't see it, but you still have weeds
M.
I have no idea what you are all talking about, but I know I need Vanilla!! Really hate SENSE...
If I had AOSP would it mean that my camera would not work at all? Or would it just mean that some of the SENSE functions would not be possible to use?
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I have no idea what you are all talking about, but I know I need Vanilla!! Really hate SENSE...
If I had AOSP would it mean that my camera would not work at all? Or would it just mean that some of the SENSE functions would not be possible to use?
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If you had a proper AOSP rom (like CM9, AOKP etc) then the camera would work to take photos and videos, but none of the dual record/high speed type stuff is likely to work. There may even be problems in early builds just trying to get it working, a dedicated imaging chip is quite unusual and depends on what architectural changes there are.
And, if you don't know what I'm talking about with senseless vs aosp, how can you even know that you *need* vanilla ics??
M.
So my upgrade is coming up on November 1st, and I will be looking into getting a new phone in the near future, and I am finally done waiting for this ICS update that isn't coming from HTC. I was wondering if there are any fully functioning roms for the Incredible 2, or if anyone can tell me the one that is closest to fully working. Of course looking for something ICS or above and appreciate any suggestions on where I should begin...
kalojado said:
So my upgrade is coming up on November 1st, and I will be looking into getting a new phone in the near future, and I am finally done waiting for this ICS update that isn't coming from HTC. I was wondering if there are any fully functioning roms for the Incredible 2, or if anyone can tell me the one that is closest to fully working. Of course looking for something ICS or above and appreciate any suggestions on where I should begin...
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I have not tried Psycho's CM9 Global yet, but I hear it is pretty much fully functional except for the FFC is upside down or something...I have tried their CM10 Global and it is a smooth running rom, just a couple of little bugs they are working out. Mimicry CM9 based rom is almost fully functional...only thing not working that I know for sure is the FFC. Those are the only roms I have tried recently. I have also read that the Viper Sense rom is pretty good too, but it is Sense 4. I prefer the Paranoid Android, but there are some camera issues with it and a couple of other small bugs that don't affect me that much so I never notice them. Other than that I am out of suggestions, I have not tried UKB, MIUI, or any of the other roms that I hear are great roms.
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I have not tried Psycho's CM9 Global yet, but I hear it is pretty much fully functional except for the FFC is upside down or something...I have tried their CM10 Global and it is a smooth running rom, just a couple of little bugs they are working out. Mimicry CM9 based rom is almost fully functional...only thing not working that I know for sure is the FFC. Those are the only roms I have tried recently. I have also read that the Viper Sense rom is pretty good too, but it is Sense 4. I prefer the Paranoid Android, but there are some camera issues with it and a couple of other small bugs that don't affect me that much so I never notice them. Other than that I am out of suggestions, I have not tried UKB, MIUI, or any of the other roms that I hear are great roms.
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I started with aeroevan's CM9 ROM and it was terribly slow and pretty buggy. I had to reboot it at least once a day. I'm now running Psycho's CM10 Global and it's actually been really great, aside from the nonfunctional FFC, graphic tearing with Chrome, and unstable Bluetooth. Also, the CM10 Global ROM has an issue where after locking the phone it will take 1-2 seconds before allowing you to unlock again.
Why does everyone keep posting questions in general :cries:
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Why does everyone keep posting questions in general :cries:
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Sorry, this is the only thread I ever check, so I didn't even think about it. Is there a way for me to move it? If not I guess I can just delete it...
IC Tazz has been flawless for me. I tried CM9 and CM10 for a few weeks, they work pretty good but are not 100%.
I'm using the new viper Rom. In the past I've always preferred sense tho. Viper is nice. But I prefer my own non sense widgets. So my phone basically looks the same as it did when running cm10. So I'm not sure what the point of staying on viper. Must say battery life is impressive, especially for a sense Rom. Battery life was one reason why I hated sense. But then my phone doesn't really look like sense anyways since I'm using all the same widgets as I did w aosp. *confused*
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Sorry, this is the only thread I ever check, so I didn't even think about it. Is there a way for me to move it? If not I guess I can just delete it...
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No problem man... Just I have minor ocd and it really bugs me... Lol
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No problem man... Just I have minor ocd and it really bugs me... Lol
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Haha, I can understand that. I've only been around this one for the past few months. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I won't forget next time haha
for an ics rom, i gotta say viper sense is the most bug-free. both the ffc camera and rear cameras work fine, and you can shoot fine in 720p HD recording, a problem with many other roms.
this was one of the main problems i had with most CM's and aosp roms was that the stock camera sucked. it didnt even compare to the sense camera and pictures looked they were taken with a basic phone. the viper sense camera was great, maybe even better than stock.
as for bugs, i think the only thing was that taking a picture while recording didnt work, i dont think its supposed to though cuz the inc2 isnt designed for it? also for some reason after a reboot it changed from cdma to gsm, and i think the only way to change that it running the aroma installer again.
I'm no expert or developer but there is quite a few Roms that I have found a pretty stable that could be used as a daily driver with no problem. If you're not rooted I recommend trying it and giving some Roms a test run and seeing what you like before ditching your inc2 its a whole new experience.
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Sadly nit had to pull the ViperINC ROM earlier today due to virtuous teams request... Regarding the use of m10 I think...
Was just about to download and finally move on from GB too...
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are you serious?! i wanted to download that as soon as i got near some reliable wifi. (there's none available where i live so i use wifi tethering)
Fully functional eh? Both dkstunna and Aerovans cm9 & 10 both run nicely. Just have to make some changes depending on your carrier but youll find the solutions by reading the threads. But don't forget most roms are like that woman in the red light district. She's pretty and fun and can do a lot but there is also something under that skirt that is fully functional.
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Currently Running: Mimicry 1.5 w/ vivow-tiamat-ics-031412 Kernel, JB_ADRENO_DRIVERS_V2.ZIP.
It's been a pretty solid experience for a few months now.
Condemned Sense's Stock Build Odexed.
Depends on your definition of "fully-functional." For me that means everything that the stock ROM has including FFC, rotating softkeys, 720P camcorder, wifi-tethering, etc. Most of the ROMS listed (excluding stock ROMS) so far have issues with at least one of these things. I don't consider a mentality of "living with minor bugs" consistent with "fully-functional."
Personally my list would include:
- any of the the "standard" Sense 2.1 Gingerbread ROMs like GingerSense, SkyRaider Zeus, etc. (they all use the official 2.65 kernel specifically built for GB)
- Arctic Ascension 2.02 (aka IC Tazz 3.6) - Sense 3.6 using the leaked Chinese v3.x OTA kernel - everything including the stuff I mentioned works on it. It even includes features not even the stock ROM has such as automatic 3G switching when sending and receiving MMS messages.
Try CM 7.2, it was the first rom i flashed. the battery life is extraordinary and it runs fast like hell! only problem is its a bit old fashioned.
I'm currently running ViperSense 1.1, but its just slightly slow because its using a stock kernel
Thanks everyone for taking the time to give me this information. I have been busy but plan to look into these very soon! Much appreciation!
Miui 1.12.9 with Aerovan's 0.7 CFS kernel.
So I've had CM10 for about 3 weeks now, and I can't say I'm terribly impressed.
Sure, it was Jelly Bean and had Google Now, and was fairly fluid and all that. But there are definitely issues, including occasional freezing (and even a couple of random reboots), a 'scheduled' alarm that requires me to constantly switch it back on every night, and camera photos that for some reason don't show up (just a blank image). But the worst thing, by far, is the terrible battery life. I don't know why, but for some reason my phone refuses to last even a full day since installing CM10. I don't know what the hell CM10 is doing to kill my battery, but it is.
All of which is a round-about way of saying that I am ready to move on. I know there are a lot of ROMs out there, but I was wondering which ones are worth it.
Any recommendations? And would the process for loading these ROMs be the same as it was for CM10, i.e. flash it from the 'fastboot' recovery thingy?
(Alternatively, if other ROMs are actually worse than CM10, then can someone tell me how to go back to Sense?)
All require the commands for fastboot. Aosp roms are quality cams not as good. Don't go sense yet try miui then at least you've tried them all
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What is "cams"? I tried Googling it but couldn't find anything. MIUI looks like it might be a pretty heavy ROM? And I'm not sure about the whole idea of not having an app drawer.
What other AOSP ROMs are there? Is there some place where I can check out the various alternatives? Is CM10 an AOSP?
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What other AOSP ROMs are there? Is there some place where I can check out the various alternatives?
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The original development sub-forum.
CM10 is based on aosp.
Also try ice cold jelly.
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Sorry cams=camera
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All require the commands for fastboot. Aosp roms are quality cams not as good. Don't go sense yet try miui then at least you've tried them all
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Translation: All require you to use commands in fastboot. The quality of pictures taken in the camera application in AOSP/AOKP/CM10 ROMs is not as good compared to Sense ROMs. Don't go back to a Sense ROM yet, try MIUI, then go back to Sense once you've tried them all.
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So I've had CM10 for about 3 weeks now, and I can't say I'm terribly impressed.
Sure, it was Jelly Bean and had Google Now, and was fairly fluid and all that. But there are definitely issues, including occasional freezing (and even a couple of random reboots), a 'scheduled' alarm that requires me to constantly switch it back on every night, and camera photos that for some reason don't show up (just a blank image). But the worst thing, by far, is the terrible battery life. I don't know why, but for some reason my phone refuses to last even a full day since installing CM10. I don't know what the hell CM10 is doing to kill my battery, but it is.
All of which is a round-about way of saying that I am ready to move on. I know there are a lot of ROMs out there, but I was wondering which ones are worth it.
Any recommendations? And would the process for loading these ROMs be the same as it was for CM10, i.e. flash it from the 'fastboot' recovery thingy?
(Alternatively, if other ROMs are actually worse than CM10, then can someone tell me how to go back to Sense?)
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Im wondering this same question... tried few CM10 based roms --> bad battery, freezing, errors etc.
now im having sense based rom, and market doesnt work, cool aint it?
dont like the ui look of sense at all, messy and disturbing.
im just wondering if theres any fully STABLE CM9, maybe CM7 roms? dont really care about these google now, nfc etc..
and dont say me to change to iOS, thats not a solution.
Good luck searching for ROM!
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So I've had CM10 for about 3 weeks now, and I can't say I'm terribly impressed.
Sure, it was Jelly Bean and had Google Now, and was fairly fluid and all that. But there are definitely issues, including occasional freezing (and even a couple of random reboots), a 'scheduled' alarm that requires me to constantly switch it back on every night, and camera photos that for some reason don't show up (just a blank image). But the worst thing, by far, is the terrible battery life. I don't know why, but for some reason my phone refuses to last even a full day since installing CM10. I don't know what the hell CM10 is doing to kill my battery, but it is.
All of which is a round-about way of saying that I am ready to move on. I know there are a lot of ROMs out there, but I was wondering which ones are worth it.
Any recommendations? And would the process for loading these ROMs be the same as it was for CM10, i.e. flash it from the 'fastboot' recovery thingy?
(Alternatively, if other ROMs are actually worse than CM10, then can someone tell me how to go back to Sense?)
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I love my Sense ROMs, so I've actually reflashed the stock software. I've tried the CM10, ARHD 17 (Good sense ROM), Paranoid android (A very interesting ROM, may not give the best experience but it's certainly very unique in its own respect) Also, check out the new Blade ROM, apparently it's super smooth and amazing battery life. I have to delve into it myself, but perhaps you could share your experience?
I want to switch to an AOSP rom because NFC media sharing doesn't work on stock roms,
But I'm worried about all those bugs in AOSP roms ...
do you guys recommend switching or staying on stock????????????????????????????????
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I want to switch to an AOSP rom because NFC media sharing doesn't work on stock roms,
But I'm worried about all those bugs in AOSP roms ...
do you guys recommend switching or staying on stock????????????????????????????????
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Well i can recommend ARHD 17.1, if u can stand looks of sense UI.
After installing apex launcher and holo locker (JB style locker) i managed to make it good looking for me. And its very smooth scrolling etc (AFTER APEX)... on sense it was as laggy as stock.
PS. im not sure if NFC media sharing works cause i wont need it but you can allways make sure of it:
-> [ROM] Android Revolution HD 17.1 | High Quality & Performance | Sense 4+ | BEST STOCK
:good:
I just flashed to Liquid JB from ViperX and am pretty happy so far... Also ViperX was awesome, with tons of customizable features. :good:
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Translation: All require you to use commands in fastboot. The quality of pictures taken in the camera application in AOSP/AOKP/CM10 ROMs is not as good compared to Sense ROMs. Don't go back to a Sense ROM yet, try MIUI, then go back to Sense once you've tried them all.
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Yeah I'm fairly sure the need for such an extensive translation was not really warranted. Lol
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what about Slim Bean for the HOX, anyone got good expierience with that ROM ?
Slim beans a great Rom. Same story though with the camera if not overly fussed about it though. Great rom
The gnex version is sweet
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thanks ! Seems ROMs are like women, so many are beautiful but you have to pick the lesser evil for you
Try ICJ AOKP. It has a lot of customization and its very stable.
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Slim beans a great Rom. Same story though with the camera if not overly fussed about it though. Great rom
The gnex version is sweet
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How much worse the camera on AOSP/AOKP vs Sense roms?
Both Still and VIdeo quality, less options? Whats the problem?
It's not tragic. You will notice it though. You have to try really
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It's not tragic. You will notice it though. You have to try really
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But still can you explain a bit please?
The quality is worse? the features? what exactly is the difference?
Okay the quality isn't as good. In low light or dark the flash makes a green tint on your picture. Though loads use it still give it a try
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So I am new to the XDA forum, I am not new to Android. Now however I am in a bit of a spot. Looking for that one ROM which actually works properly without bugs or stability issues. This has proven to be a rather big challenge.
Almost every single ROM I have looked up, either on this forum or other forums, has issues. Most of them are seen as minor, but for my part, the lack of WiFi or USB tethering is not acceptable. Nor are those small bugs which makes apps crash from time to time.
So I am looking for a ROM with offers me the pure Android experience, so no Sense UI, with a few custom tweaks like battery indicator removal and the like. The ROM should be OTA compatible and based on Android 4.2.2.
I have looked all the big ROM's and many of the smaller ones. And like I write earlier, they all seem to have issues that makes renders them a defect product in my eyes. It is my no means easy to create a custom ROM, and all the hard work that developers put in to it, that I will praise :good:
But since I am looking for a complete product that take run my HOX until a new Android phone worth having comes out, stability issues, app craches, sluggishness and so on, are not acceptable.
It is a tall order I realise, but I figures that there is nothing lost by posting this thread. So are there anyone out there who knows an custom ROM?
AOKP and CM both have WiFi tethering and USB tethering working fine. I've been using CM since its alpha days, never had something not working that bothered me (meaning that i don't use MHL or FM radio, both of which don't work iirc. Any AOSP-based rom won't have them working.)
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AOKP and CM both have WiFi tethering and USB tethering working fine. I've been using CM since its alpha days, never had something not working that bothered me (meaning that i don't use MHL or FM radio, both of which don't work iirc. Any AOSP-based rom won't have them working.)
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I have downloaded the CM 10.1 M3 release, thought about installing it, it also comes with OTA updates, for some people at least, by the time the stable release version comes out, it should work for all users.
But I could not find any information regarding the possibilities of tweaking the notification bar. Do you have the option of modifying or removing the battery indicator?
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I have downloaded the CM 10.1 M3 release, thought about installing it, it also comes with OTA updates, for some people at least, by the time the stable release version comes out, it should work for all users.
But I could not find any information regarding the possibilities of tweaking the notification bar. Do you have the option of modifying or removing the battery indicator?
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You can modify it to show icon, icon+percentage, circle and circle+percentage, as well as hidden.
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You can modify it to show icon, icon+percentage, circle and circle+percentage, as well as hidden.
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I have a beautiful battery widget, which looks much much better then any other, still hoping that the developer will add moving it to the right side for root users. So I want the default one hidden. So another question would be, if you hide it, does it leave an empty space, or do the other right-side indicators re-align to fill that empty space, so to avoid blank space?
They fill the blank space.
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They fill the blank space.
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I will try the CM10.1 M3 release. What about bootanimation, is there an inbuilt function for that, and if not, do you know where the bootanimation.zip file is located?
Ohh, and what's the word on Google Apps being installed directly from the Play Store?
TeamVenom look @ my signature this rom rocks advice before you flash any rom just read
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TeamVenom look @ my signature this rom rocks advice before you flash any rom just read
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I have already looked at Team Venom Viper X ROM. But it comes with Sense UI, and I have no use for it, not anymore. Since Android 4.0 and Holo UI, there is no need for a UI overlay, and if one really wants that, there are plenty of Launchers in Play Store.
And there are also issues with WiFi tethering.
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I have already looked at Team Venom Viper X ROM. But it comes with Sense UI, and I have no use for it, not anymore. Since Android 4.0 and Holo UI, there is no need for a UI overlay, and if one really wants that, there are plenty of Launchers in Play Store.
And there are also issues with WiFi tethering.
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No worries i use to use trips rom's i was a flasholic until i flashed TeamVenoms rom and never looked back.
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Interesting, maybe I should do the same. Please tell us what rom you decide to use
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I will try the CM10.1 M3 release. What about bootanimation, is there an inbuilt function for that, and if not, do you know where the bootanimation.zip file is located?
Ohh, and what's the word on Google Apps being installed directly from the Play Store?
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Replace it manually in /system/media/bootanimation.zip. Really, most of these questions can be solved by just flashing CM and finding your way around it
Honestly, you can't go past Slim Bean when it comes to stability and features. It has pretty much as many features as AOKP, but it also has features from CM and some of its own unique features too. If you use Apex launcher with Slim, it's easily one of the fastest and smoothest ROMs around.
I've been using Slim Bean for a week now and i hardly EVER keep a ROM for more than 3 days because i always find small issues. With Slim Bean, performance is great, battery life is phenomenal (i got 60 hours up time with close to 4 hours of screen on time, i can attach screenies if you want), there are no outstanding bugs and it just works like it should.
With CM10.1, i always run into small issues here and there and battery life is not so great. When it comes to Ice Cold Jelly, battery life wasn't so good for me and performance was all over the place and it was rather unstable when i tried it a few versions ago.
So, Slim Bean is the absolute winner for me when it comes to ROMs without Sense. I highly, HIGHLY recommend that you try it out. Krarvind only produces very high quality ROMs.
Got your ROM?
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Honestly, you can't go past Slim Bean when it comes to stability and features. It has pretty much as many features as AOKP, but it also has features from CM and some of its own unique features too. If you use Apex launcher with Slim, it's easily one of the fastest and smoothest ROMs around.
I've been using Slim Bean for a week now and i hardly EVER keep a ROM for more than 3 days because i always find small issues. With Slim Bean, performance is great, battery life is phenomenal (i got 60 hours up time with close to 4 hours of screen on time, i can attach screenies if you want), there are no outstanding bugs and it just works like it should.
With CM10.1, i always run into small issues here and there and battery life is not so great. When it comes to Ice Cold Jelly, battery life wasn't so good for me and performance was all over the place and it was rather unstable when i tried it a few versions ago.
So, Slim Bean is the absolute winner for me when it comes to ROMs without Sense. I highly, HIGHLY recommend that you try it out. Krarvind only produces very high quality ROMs.
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From what I can tell, Slim Bean is running some sort of custom launcher, is that correct? Because like I wrote, I have no interest in that nor any other launcher, I just want want the stock Android Holo UI and a few additional features.
Does Slim Bean support OTA?
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Replace it manually in /system/media/bootanimation.zip. Really, most of these questions can be solved by just flashing CM and finding your way around it
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Sounds like CM is the way to go. SlimBean is tempting, but it uses a form of launcher other the stock one, and that holds no interest for me.