Develop Bugs

Custom ROM Help

Hi,
I'm currently running CM6 and loving it, but I'm torn on what to try next... EViO, Baked Snack and VaelPak are all possibilities.
None of the ROM's really have the exact thing I want. Ideally, I'd like a ROM that has the following:
- Sense E-mail App
- Sense Calendar App
- Sense Lock Screen
- Sense Status Bar (with Custom Battery Icon)
- AOSP Contacts & Dialer
- AOSP Messaging (SMS/MMS)
- AOSP Gallery
- 4G Support
- FM Radio
- WiFi/Wired Tether
- Sprint Bloatware Removed (apart from Sprint TV)
- ADK Laucher (easy to add after the fact)
Any ideas on how to get this? I wish I was a Dev... I would build my own

I have been really happy with my testing of Evio. I have installed just about every rom in an attempt to find the perfect rom for me. The 2 i ussually come back to are Damage Control and Evio.
Some are upset that Dc hasnt had an update in a while but in my opinion it works well and is stable and there arent a lot of reasons they need a big update unles they have something to actually improve it.
As for evio VERY very solid rom. My suggestion if you like CM is to try one of these 2 (since evio is on your list i would go witht hat one) Remove all the sense ui crap and then search the forum for ASOP phone/contacts and messaging apks that were modded to work with sense roms. I know i have seen galelry and am pretty sure i ahve seen phone/contacts. the only one i dont think i have seen is messagin. (i am a handcent fan so havent really watched for ASOP messaging).
once you find the apks of the modded apps you can simply remove the Sense versions and replace with the ASOP version. This would give you pretty much what you are looking for at least for the hard parts. the bloat ware and launcher you can easily adapt to any rom. evio also comes with wired and wifi tether apps preinstalled.
anyway of the 3 i would try Evio next and good luck getting everything for your perfect rom set up.

omegasun18 said:
I have been really happy with my testing of Evio. I have installed just about every rom in an attempt to find the perfect rom for me. The 2 i ussually come back to are Damage Control and Evio.
Some are upset that Dc hasnt had an update in a while but in my opinion it works well and is stable and there arent a lot of reasons they need a big update unles they have something to actually improve it.
As for evio VERY very solid rom. My suggestion if you like CM is to try one of these 2 (since evio is on your list i would go witht hat one) Remove all the sense ui crap and then search the forum for ASOP phone/contacts and messaging apks that were modded to work with sense roms. I know i have seen galelry and am pretty sure i ahve seen phone/contacts. the only one i dont think i have seen is messagin. (i am a handcent fan so havent really watched for ASOP messaging).
once you find the apks of the modded apps you can simply remove the Sense versions and replace with the ASOP version. This would give you pretty much what you are looking for at least for the hard parts. the bloat ware and launcher you can easily adapt to any rom. evio also comes with wired and wifi tether apps preinstalled.
anyway of the 3 i would try Evio next and good luck getting everything for your perfect rom set up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I looked but couldn't find the AOSP apk's that I need. Do you think it will work if I just extract the apk's that I like from CM6, by copying them to my SD card and then moving them to my laptop? I can see MMS.apk, phone.apk, contacts.apk, and Gallery3D.apk in /system/app. Are there any other files that need to be copied with these?
Any help would be much appreciated.

[Q] Sense Apps for vanilla/cyanogen

is there any way to get sense apps like the Music, camera, and phone onto vanlla phones or on cyanogen

I was hoping there was a way to get the dialer from a sense rom onto any stock rom. I actually may try that out later this week and see if it works (doubtful).

It requires sense framework for the Widgets as I've asked this before, as far as camera mods and what not I've seen that on vanilla roms but I'm sure there are geniuses that dwell on XDA that could figure it out.
Sent from my Google Phone

Eventually, there will be hacked up ROMs with bits and pieces from every corner of the earth - I wanted the same thing on my Nexus (stock with the HTC cam) and there were a few options (though all had bugs here and there). Given the G2 was *just* permrooted, it might be a few weeks/months before you see some really creative ROMs.
Other stuff, like the lockscreen, can be changed with apps like widgetlocker and such.
You should definitely try out the Desire Z rom, though. It's all kinds of awesome, with new features that weren't there in previous versions of Sense. Hell, the camera app alone is worth it - makes the stock Android camera app look like a joke.

Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ

Lennyuk said:
Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
Enomther's TheOfficial has the option of both the HTC Camera and the HTC Music app - plus you can install the HTC IME (onscreen keyboard) easily as an APK (there's even a kitchen that lets you customize the colors and such).

Your sig claims you've owned 4 android phones. So you're obviously not a super noob. So my question to you is -
Did searching just not occur to you, or did you honestly believe you were not the 7,548th person to ask this question?

I am not asking about sense widgets because im aware that i need to have the sense framework running but im just wondering about the 2 apps Camera and Music. i know that enmothers rom gives you the option to install the 2 if you want and am just wondering if its possible to do the same for cyanogen.
also i have used the Sense Roms for the G2 but i was never really a fan of non Vanilla android.

the orange bandit said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
Enomther's TheOfficial has the option of both the HTC Camera and the HTC Music app - plus you can install the HTC IME (onscreen keyboard) easily as an APK (there's even a kitchen that lets you customize the colors and such).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A couple of apps may have been REBUILT to work without sense, but its not an easy job and certainly isn't something a lot of people have done.
the HTC IME keyboard was pretty much an entire rewrite of the code based on what the htc one looked like, its not the apk from sense just moved over.
I can't comment on the camera or music, but I imagine these are the same.

Lennyuk said:
Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There has been a sense app ported to stock. Enom ported the HTC camera to his stock ROM for the Nexus... I remember running it.. That was a great ROM
Sorry, I see this has already been covered... But I know the app wasn't rewritten, it was a straight port, with the stock framework rewritten, so it was a straight app port
JD
Sent from my HTC Desire Z Beast

I really like the browser from sense, I use lpp for widgets so I'm good there. I asked about getting some sort of plug in for google translate onto vanilla browser and got nothing but flame. Hopefully gingie brings this to us... I mean is there any other plug ins other then flash? Honest question
Sent from my Google Phone

[Q] Notification Power Controls??

I have the stock 3.26.605.1 rom deodexed on my phone that I have been working on to make myself my own rom with rom kitchen. What I am wondering is, how do I go about getting the power control widgets in the pull down?? Does someone have or maybe make an update.zip or mm that will add these? I already have the 6 bar signal meter and circle battery with % with location removed and don't really want to lose them. No I don't know how to code so that isn't an option. Thanks for any help!

SkyRaider Sense 3.5
I recommend SkyRaider Sense 3.5 as a solution for getting the power widgets on the notification drop-down.
You can check out the Official Thread here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764787
EDIT: Location icon is removed with SR; you can apply 6-bar and circle battery meters. See the OP in the above thread.

Yeah I was running skyraider 3.5. But I wanted something "my own". Thats why I want to be able to add the power widgets to the stock rom. Because I am playing with and learning the "kitchen". That way I have something for myself that is to my taste.

Wow!! I didnt think I was asking for the impossible here. I have read tons and tons of post and I know that the files where posted on here till that thread was closed down due to peoples behavior.

It is not that it is impossible, but there are many working parts. The drop down notification is in the Services.jar file. You need a framework apk that came from a ROM that had the notification drop down (for the added png files). The 6 bar signal and battery % is also in the services jar file. There are a few ROMS that have this combo. What color are you looking to theme?

Honestly I was hoping for just the stock look with power widgets. I work outside all day and the transparent drop downs are hard to see outside. Man I wish I was a little more tech savvy. I tried the framework from Nilsp (hope thats spelled right) business sense 3.1 but the notifications are kinda hard to see in the drop down. So i am back to stock framework.............. If there was a way to add it to Virtuous I would just his framework.

I posted a theme for Redemption in the themes section. I believe it will flash over Virtuous. Check out the screen shots and let me know if that is the look. I have a flashable zip that can give you that.

Yeah, I like that!! But is there anyway to do it without the transparent pull down? And I have big hands so I am not real fond of the 5 app wide app drawer.
I checked it out again and, I love the status bar theme, the pulldown widgets and scooby fonts!!!! I am just not a big fan of the transparent pulldown, 5 wide app drawer and rosie remaps.......... But at this point I willing to settle with I can get! LOL
So I downloaded your theme, deleted the rosie mod and clock mod. Flashed it and it works perfect on Stock deodexed 3.26.605.1 framework!! The market is force closing on me but I am fixing that as I am typing. Thank you so very much!!!!!!

Be wary that the initial port of the power widgets to the incredible contained a lot of EVO code to the point where you were pretty much running on the EVO framework (the framework-res.apk was code for code an EVO apk). ihtfp (and I a little) have been working on a port to un-modified Sense ROMs such as Virtuous. Once we do, you can be assured we'll distribute the files accordingly or make a how-to.

Oh thanks and good to know. This would probably explain why I always get boot loops when I try to put my framework into the mod lol
Sent from my Incredible using XDA App

Berzerker7 said:
Be wary that the initial port of the power widgets to the incredible contained a lot of EVO code to the point where you were pretty much running on the EVO framework (the framework-res.apk was code for code an EVO apk). ihtfp (and I a little) have been working on a port to un-modified Sense ROMs such as Virtuous. Once we do, you can be assured we'll distribute the files accordingly or make a how-to.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used the files that lllboredlll put into his Incredible rom. Wasn't that ported specifically for the Incredible. I have not experienced any boot loops when using this on the Inc framework. I initially tried to utilize what was in Redemption (Evo hybrid) and THAT put me into a boot loop.

Just wanted to give a personal thanks to Spence341 for all his help and hard work!! And thanks to all the developers that made this mod possible. I wish I was half as good as they are with this stuff!
Great theme Spence341. I took your files and fonts and added them to my framework and ran it through the kitchen again so I have it all zipaligned and everything. Runs smooth as butter and looks very awesome! Even the wife wanted it on her phone!
Thanks again

All the credit goes to lllboredlll and JsChiSurf. They did the development... glad it worked for you. Love to see some screen shots when you are done.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

spence341 said:
I used the files that lllboredlll put into his Incredible rom. Wasn't that ported specifically for the Incredible. I have not experienced any boot loops when using this on the Inc framework. I initially tried to utilize what was in Redemption (Evo hybrid) and THAT put me into a boot loop.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes. It won't bootloop, but what they didn't tell you/refused to tell you is that they kanged the EVO stuff that jschisurf made for his *EVO* in the first place. They "ported" this by copy and pasting smalis, rather than the code itself. Thus making it an EVO framework. They just kanged the entire framework-res, didn't even copy files. If you look into the AndroidManifest, it has permissions for WiMAX.

So the mod you have in your theme thread, is it strictly Inc framework? What are the negatives to using it as it is is "kanged" (that's a term I haven't heard in a while). I was trying to achieve what I wanted with my limited ability.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

It's pretty much about 99% Inc framework, ported *the right way* by ihtfp himself. It's just nice not to have EVO framework on your phone if you're not using an EVO, no? He also added a few more features, such as an updated look and not needing the txt file (that's not released yet though).

Screen shots
O.K. its been busy around here! Gotta love the holidays! So I finally got some screen shots taken. I think it turned out really well!

[Debate]What rom and why?

Alright.. so we all probably use virtuous rom, gingervillian,cyanogen or miui.
I wanna know why everyone chooses each one.. I've flashed all and am just curious to why everyone else chooses the roms they do.. what really makes you stay with the rom you have??
I run miui. To me cyanogen lacks full customization. And has no benefitial features over miui. I get same battery life and phone runs smoothly at 1ghz as it would on any other rom. ONLY issue is random reboots. Which is a theme issue not a rom issue.. And I don't care for sense roms.. to me they slow the phone down.. although I am waiting for cm7 to become stable before my first flash.
Sent from my G2.

Currently I am running MIUI. I'm still getting used to it but overall I like it. I love the UI. It looks clean and it's quick.

Stock post ota deodexed.... because every other rom gives me some sort of problem that there is no guide to fixing and I don't have the time to troubleshoot the bull****

Whats deodexed mean??
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

The 1.2Ghz clock speed from the God speed thread.
Anything higher than that affects my battery and I don't see any obvious benefit as I don't play any games that need a higher CPU.

virtuous because of eye candy and htc streams are awesome!!

which rom saves battery most?

I use CM6.1.1
I previously tried Virtuous because I always wanted a Sense phone but realized Sense actually sucks, well the messaging, gallery and dialer at least.
I use my phone heavily for A2DP bluetooth streaming and apperantly cyanogenmod is pretty much the best rom for bluetooth audio quality, also the added equalizer feature is awesome. Its just like the stock rom whish I loved since my nexus days but with just the right amount of customization.
MIUI looks annoying as hell, why not just buy an iDevice if your into that UI?

shady503403 said:
Whats deodexed mean??
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When you install an app, sometimes it comes with an odex file (i believe it's an extension of some sort to the app) When you are de-odex'd, it merges the extension (dot odex file) with the apk. The only reason I wanted this rom was to use themes for stock roms. I also found that it boots the phone up a hell of a lot faster.
Highly recommended for people who want the stock feel but like small mods here and there.
curbsam said:
The 1.2Ghz clock speed from the God speed thread.
Anything higher than that affects my battery and I don't see any obvious benefit as I don't play any games that need a higher CPU.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's not a rom...
that's a kernel........... *facepalm*

I run Virtuous for a few reasons:
1. camera - the stock Android camera app is abysmal. Few options and not easy to use in the least.
2. music player - genre support is a big one for me
3. Sense - I use LauncherPro, but I prefer the sense contacts and other features.
4. I installed the 3D gallery from stock, so I have access to both. One other small benefit of the otherwise useless Sense gallery is a scrollable 'share' pop-up. On stock ROMs (or CM), if you have too many options in this menu, you can't scroll so you can't access them. Sense lets you scroll the 'share' list.

ungarisch said:
I use CM6.1.1
I previously tried Virtuous because I always wanted a Sense phone but realized Sense actually sucks, well the messaging, gallery and dialer at least.
I use my phone heavily for A2DP bluetooth streaming and apperantly cyanogenmod is pretty much the best rom for bluetooth audio quality, also the added equalizer feature is awesome. Its just like the stock rom whish I loved since my nexus days but with just the right amount of customization.
MIUI looks annoying as hell, why not just buy an iDevice if your into that UI?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not everything about miui is iphonish... and even the parts that are you have options.. the menus? I turn those to the standard grid. the icons? Not all are uniformed "squares" all thou the theme is use they are. But I actually am I fan of uniformed icons. I think it looks cleaner.. imho. What about miui looks annoying?? I admit the original launcher is lame. But I don't use it.. I think docks and notification bars are lame. I don't use either and rock adw.. swipe down for notifications and up for apps. plus you can't tell me miui lock screen isn't sexy..
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

[Q] Can a rom be made...

Can a rom be made with nothing in it, no sense, email, txt, nothing. where you install everything you actually want from recovery. every time i install a new rom i rip out everything i don't want using titanium backup. i use my own launcher, and download all my own apps off the android market. I was just wondering i as i never use the stuff like 4g, hdmi, Netflix, YouTube, or 90% of the other stuff that gets packed in with all the other releases.
all i do ever do with my phone is listen to music, txt, check email, check the time, and once in a blue moon get a call from someone. nothing else. I use all paid apps like launcher pro, power amp pro and the like.
just wondering if its possible, and thanks again. currently using synergy but bugs keep popping up so looking to switch, just want something simplistic lol.

Try dsixda's Android Kitchen, use it to modify ROMs and such link

I'd like to see this too. Perhaps a sense based ROM that allows for just about any modifications. I am not a developer nor am I to savvy on some of the terms but I believe a stock "deodexed" ROM would suffice. I am gonna try it. I'll let you know what I find.

thanks tropicalbrit, ill try that and see how far i can get. but my ultimate goal would be no sense at all, if its possible, just apps that i chose off the market

Shckr57 said:
thanks tropicalbrit, ill try that and see how far i can get. but my ultimate goal would be no sense at all, if its possible, just apps that i chose off the market
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Start with an AOSP base then. I suggest Deck's or SalvageMod

Lithid already made that rom for you. It is in the dev section somewhere. He called it like bare aosp gb or something. Omgb is pretty close too. That one is by r2doesinc.
Salvagemod is also tiny. Like 58mbs without gapps, and not many apps

I agree with tropicalbrit. I would start with a watered down version of an ASOP rom and go from there. Maybe even try a CM rom. Although CM is loaded with a lot of things too. also you can unzip the file and take a lot of the apk's out there.

tried decks, but there is no market app, so..... lol. how would i add the market? downloaded the apk but it wont show up in recovery and there is no file browser in the rom, so cant install it there lol. this will be a very long night
edit: not to be a party pooper but i give up. ima just stick with sense and keep tearing everything out. just easier

you add the market with gapps. you can find them at cyanogenmod. They are flashable zip file.

I have been down this road too, and in fact, just using a stock sense rom (I use Fresh by Flipz) and stripping everything you don't want is indeed the easiest.