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first, im new to android so please bear with me. i've searched and cant find info on what i'm looking for, so if i missed it please just forward me to where i need to go.
i have an evo 4g that came with android 2.1, but i've updated to 2.2. i've read about rooting your android phone and i understand what thats about. i've also read only that you can root and remove the sense ui, just leaving the stock android platform.
once the phone is rooted, do you just uninstall htc sense? if not, do you need to load a different rom? if so, i've seen a poll that said cm6.1 and warm wyn or whatever were the top two. would i just flash that rom?
thanks for the help...
You can do both, either flash a ROM or uninstall sense
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There are plenty of "non-sense" ROMS but if you want AOSP then you should just flash CM6.
there is a difference between no sense and aosp. non sense means the sense launcher is gone (you have a replacement from the market) which speeds up your phone by quite a bit. aosp is like what is on the nexus one. stock android. myn (not wyn) has the most highly respected non-sense rom for it's deep mods and slick tweaks. cyanogenmod is really held the hughest on the rom developer tower of respect for him and his team building a full on aosp rom from the ground up. it has many, and i mean many, things that were simply not put into android. it really is great. i switched away because i could not live without my sense widgets.
i perfer ava froyo (v10 is coming very soon) but it is sense, so boo hoo.
ok thats good. i like the look of cyanogenmod. as for uninstalling sense, i assume that i'll have to root to do that. has anyone actually done that?
i've been wanting to flash cyanogenmod, but have concerns. is there a way to save the rom that i have now before i flash? i want something to roll back to incase something goes wrong with the flash.
so ive been thinking about rooting my phone. im gettign tired of seeing the "low disk space" icons and sometimes the lag is just annoying...
i just dont know what rom im looking for.
ive been looking at cyanogen and thinking about going with that but ive been reading theres problems with the wifi and other minor stuff. so i was hoping you guys could help me out.
im looking for a ROM thats fast, stable, and still syncs up with google cal and contacts and gmail and gtasks and etc. but i also want it to be reliable in terms of other things such as the alarm clock, bluetooth, wifi, gps and whatnot. i also want it to be compatible with google voice... also, i would like longer battery life while keeping adequate performance up. so many underclock while my screen is off and overclock while its on? (if there is such an option)
also, another question i had was if i flashed a vanilla ROM on, would i lose all my sense widgets? and if i do, is it hard to find good looking widgets without paying any money?
thanks.
You can backup your previous roms so if you don't like one you flashed you can go back. And Widgets are usually hard to find. I'd suggest cm6.1 or virtuous for a rom and either an invisiblek or Chad kernel that will give you great performance and good battery life. I hope that helps
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zithro said:
so ive been thinking about rooting my phone. im gettign tired of seeing the "low disk space" icons and sometimes the lag is just annoying...
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also, another question i had was if i flashed a vanilla ROM on, would i lose all my sense widgets? and if i do, is it hard to find good looking widgets without paying any money?
thanks.
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Yes, and no. You will lose all sense widgets, but you can find good free versions. I would start with Fancy Widget for clock.
My Rom Recommendation:
I am running CM 6.1 with B-SCM Splash of Red theme
and Ziggy471's latest kernel. But, a word of warning:
NEVER overclock past 1.19GHz on the Ziggy kernels. Most support going up to 1228000, but I've NEVER seen this work. No harm will be done usually (a brief stall followed by a reboot), but if you set this and then check Set On Boot, THEN you're in trouble.
Also always nandroid before flashing. Backups are your best friend.
alanthemanofchicago said:
Yes, and no. You will lose all sense widgets, but you can find good free versions. I would start with Fancy Widget for clock.
My Rom Recommendation:
I am running CM 6.1 with B-SCM Splash of Red theme
and Ziggy471's latest kernel. But, a word of warning:
NEVER overclock past 1.19GHz on the Ziggy kernels. Most support going up to 1228000, but I've NEVER seen this work. No harm will be done usually (a brief stall followed by a reboot), but if you set this and then check Set On Boot, THEN you're in trouble.
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Gahh Its Lee said:
Also always nandroid before flashing. Backups are your best friend.
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O yeah. Also, a pointer about installing kernels and themes
0 Nandroid
1 Wipe Data / Factory Reset
2 Install ROM
3 Reboot, complete setup
4 Reboot to recovery, install kernel
5 Reboot, verify touch, WiFi
6 Reboot to Recovery, install theme (and Droid2 Keyboard, Bootanimations, etc.)
7 DONE! Exhale deeply.
does radio=kernel?
zithro said:
does radio=kernel?
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no, the radio is something you can change to improve your signal and battery life. you need to have S-OFF (ie unrevoked forever) to do this through HBOOT. I wouldn't recommended it if you're not advanced because this is one of the few ways you could brick your phone. If you do decide to change it, make sure you do your research and don't rush it.
Although I'm using a source CM rom, source never really works 100% for our phones. Sense roms are the most compatible and best way to go for compatibility reasons. Try out "Uber Z" or the virtuous ROMs.
Here are some TIPS!
zithro said:
so ive been thinking about rooting my phone. im gettign tired of seeing the "low disk space" icons and sometimes the lag is just annoying...
i just dont know what rom im looking for.
ive been looking at cyanogen and thinking about going with that but ive been reading theres problems with the wifi and other minor stuff. so i was hoping you guys could help me out.
im looking for a ROM thats fast, stable, and still syncs up with google cal and contacts and gmail and gtasks and etc. but i also want it to be reliable in terms of other things such as the alarm clock, bluetooth, wifi, gps and whatnot. i also want it to be compatible with google voice... also, i would like longer battery life while keeping adequate performance up. so many underclock while my screen is off and overclock while its on? (if there is such an option)
also, another question i had was if i flashed a vanilla ROM on, would i lose all my sense widgets? and if i do, is it hard to find good looking widgets without paying any money?
thanks.
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The best ASOP roms that i have tried are Cyanogenmod 6.1 and Skyraider Athena 1.2. These roms are both available in the ROM manager app. Both of the roms are very fast with almost no bugs, Although they will not give you the best battery life. With that being said you can still change the kernel as long it is an ASOP kernel.
As far as sense roms i like Virtuous rom and almost any Desire Z rom. The rom i am using ATM is Uber Z. This is a very nice and stable rom.
If you want something that looks totaly different than android i would go with MIUI. This is a great rom with great battery life. keep in mind it is sort of based off of apple's IOS.
So yeah, I have a crapload of questions.
I recently asked about rooting and keeping HTC Sense. In retrospect, I don't think I'll need Sense, I just tried out AppLauncher, and I have to say, I think I'm sold on it. I'm just wondering what exactly HTC Sense has? Is there anything it has that I'll really miss? So far the only thing I can think of is the HTC Sense website for a lost phone, backing up data, and the weather widget/FriendStream...though adding Facebook to HTC sense shows all my contacts in the Phone button which is a huge piss off, but meh.
So that being said, I think I'm about ready to give rooting a shot, but now I've been confused with even more things. And the more I read the more I get confused. Especially where I have to downgrade the firmware, I'm wondering if it's still okay to do this, since the guy at Bell told me if I didn't do / get certain updates I'd have to send my phone back to HTC for repair.
There's stock Android, Cyanogen, and it seems like a million other ROMs. Which is the best to use? If I want total customizability, but also good functionality?
Finally, I'm using a Bell-branded Desire Z on the the Bell network. So Whatever I do will need to work okay with it.
As I've said, I'm totally new to this, and I'm scared to hell of bricking my phone since I just signed a contract and don't to shell out $500 bucks for a new one.
There's just so much info on this forum and it's a bit overwhelming/confusing, not that a lot of info is a bad thing, I'm just lost lol.
EDIT: If anything I wrote seems too rambling or doesn't make much sense please specify that and I'll clarify it.
cant help you root your phone but just follow the instructions that the person who writes the threads say. It's not that easy to brick your phone unless you just completely dont follow directions.
1. Downgrade is perfectly fine, it's to allow you to use a certain method to root your phone.
2. Try out different roms to see what you like, it's like asking whats your favorite video game, how can you really choose, some will agree some wont. I personally like the Miui roms which is the iphonelike and android UI mashup. the apps built in are nice on the eyes, the physics of the phones movement is very smooth, it can oc to 1.5ghz, and you can just download a launcher to replace the original if you dont like it.
3. ask the dev's on the thread if your not sure. i have no idea about bell, but it would seem that it shouldnt have any affect on rooting your phone, just maybe the radio but that is different then rooting or flashing roms.
P.S. you might miss the small things from Sense like, it looks nice, turns on fast, widgets, the dialer to search contact, incoming calls doesnt disrupt navigation, and it's original live wallpaper lol.
So are you saying that I can't search by contact in the default phone app? That kind of sucks.
I guess more of what I'm asking is just based on people's experiences what the best route to go is. I know there are different tastes, I'm more concerned about reliability, so I'm sure people could help with a ROM choice with that criteria.
So downgrading firmware won't affect phone performance? And can it still be reverted to stock in case the phone needs warranty repair? Just trying to cover all my bases.
And thanks, I'll ask around in the deg thread.
Bloodlvst said:
So are you saying that I can't search by contact in the default phone app? That kind of sucks.
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There are usually apps available that provide Sense functionality to non-Sense ROMs. In regards to the above, you can try DialerOne.
To help you with the ROMs think of them in terms of how different Linux OS's are setup (if you know a bit about this).
You have the base OS's such as Cyanogen. Now some one doesn't like the look of that so they change the Frameworkres.apk to give it defferent colors, transparencies, icons and so on. Now they want a few extra apps to be included in the install so they add them to the /system/app directory or add a /data directory. Repackage it and now they have a custom OS called WINNING ROM (or whatever). These are easy to do and can be completed in a matter of minutes since there aren't any big alterations in the base coding of the OS. This is why you see a lot of ROMs that look like Cyanogens and the developer usually (and should be) states what version of some one elses ROM it's based off of.
Then you have ROMs that tweak certain parameters for speed or add other functionalities to a ROM such as a custom kernel, audio/video codecs, a2ext, compcache/linux swap, and others. Plus a complete custom UI (launcher), port parts of other ROMs such as Sense to work on their ROM, and toms of other things. These take days, weeks, or even months and usually have release cycles and updates. Cyanogen, Virtuous, Enomther, Villain, and a few others make up these ROMs.
Hope that helps with your ROM quest. It can be a bit overwhelming but remember to ask, ask, ask, and then ask some more and also read, at least the OP (original post) and a few pages past that. Some people may get upset and flame you for it but most will be glad to help in any way.
If you flash a non-Sense ROM, you will miss the HTC camera app. Its far and away better than the stock Android one, and I haven't found any Market camera apps that measure up, either. Also, the camera button on the Sense builds seems much more responsive than on CM7.
Also, I'm not sure about this, but the Sense ROMs seem to have better or more hardware codecs for playing a wider array of video formats. Lots of the videos I've tried on CM7 and CM6 are only playable using software decoding (on a variety of players, but RockPlayer is my favorite) and end up super laggy (very low frame rate) and audio way out of sync. On stock Sense and Virtuous, those videos play fine, hardware decoding, silky smooth, and audio in sync.
There are some aesthetic stuff, like HTC does some pretty significant theme changes for Sense, and you will lose customizations like the HTC Skins. And you will lose the HTC widgets (like the clocks) and apps (stocks, weather). But as mentioned, there are lots of Market apps that pretty well simulate many of the Sense apps and widgets, or are very suitable replacements.
Thanks for the detailed replies guys.
KCRic, thanks for list of known ROMs that's basically what I wanted to know, and your Linux flavour comparison helped too
Redpoint, I'm not sure how often I'd ever use the camera anyway...when I get home I'll have to find some screens of the default camera. That being said, I see your ROM is Virtuous. Is that a Sense-like ROM in case I agree with you on the ca?era app?
Thanks!
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Redpoint, I'm not sure how often I'd ever use the camera anyway...when I get home I'll have to find some screens of the default camera. That being said, I see your ROM is Virtuous. Is that a Sense-like ROM in case I agree with you on the ca?era app?
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Wow, you don't use the camera? I use it all the time, for those "spur of the moment" snapshots, or to quickly take a pic that I can MMS to a friend or family.
Yes, Virtuous is mostly stock Sense, but with some optimizations and with some extra features added. Its also based on the 1.85 ROM, one of the more recent stock Sense versions.
Guides, links for just about everything you can ever think of is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431
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ROM LIST
Sense ROMS
Gingerbread - Android 2.3
Shokouhi 2.0
Desire S G2 Port Sense2.1
Probably others.
Froyo - Android 2.2
Virtuous
Stock ROMS
Gingerbread - Android 2.3
CyanogenMod 7
Stock Gingerbread 1.7
iceandfire 1.7
Pyromod 1.2
GingerVillian 1.5
meXdroidMod
Froyo - Android 2.2
CyanogenMod 6
Others of unimportance now.
The Other ROMS
Gingerbread - Android 2.3
MIUI (The 2.3 one)
Froyo - Android 2.2
MIUI (The 2.2 one)
LiquidVillian (Or whatever it was called.)
I probably just wasted 10 minutes of my life doing this, but meh, it was something to do.
Now to kill myself since I had to listen to Nickelback through it. Damn 4Music.
I would hardly call CM7 (and ROMs based on it) "Stock".
Although "Non-Sense" is not a very good sounding name for that category, also.
redpoint73 said:
I would hardly call CM7 (and ROMs based on it) "Stock".
Although "Non-Sense" is not a very good sounding name for that category, also.
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AOSP Based.
There should be 2 categories. CM Based and AOSP.
But I don't think there are any AOSP ROMs. Which I hate, cos when people say they've built a stock ROM, but it's based on CyanogenMod.
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Wow, you don't use the camera? I use it all the time, for those "spur of the moment" snapshots, or to quickly take a pic that I can MMS to a friend or family.
Yes, Virtuous is mostly stock Sense, but with some optimizations and with some extra features added. Its also based on the 1.85 ROM, one of the more recent stock Sense versions.
Guides, links for just about everything you can ever think of is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431
BTW, be sure to click the "Thanks" button if you found responses to be helpful!
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So I'm guessing no one has cooked up a weird ROM that is like Cyanogen with the Sense camera app lol.
Anywho, I really only have a couple of questions now.
Would you recommend Gingerbread or Froyo? I'm guessing Gingerbread probably runs better / is better than Froyo, but it's hard to say.
Also, how easy is it to restore my phone to factory condition if I need to?
And finally, I read the wiki, it says to make sure I have the windows USB drivers installed...do I just throw those in my windows drivers folder?
EDIT: Wanted to add, the instructiosn for recovering to stock doesn't include the version. So any help there is appreciated.
Or you know, if any of you would be so kind to PM me / add me to IM if you've done this on a Bell phone in Canada that would be awesome too
The drivers go in your Android SDK folder, where ever adb resides. At least on XP and Vista that's the case - I'm not sure if the adb issue was ever resolved in Windows 7. You could always use VM linux or dual boot linux if you like, it's much easier imo. Wubi works too I think.
When it comes to Froyo vs. Gingerbread it's literally like a linux in the sense that one is completely stable and well known by this point (Froyo) an the other is bleeding edge, not stable at times, some things are just not compatible unless you port them, and peoples knowledge base on it isn't as thorough.
I've never returned this phone to stock, which I assume you mean s-on and no superuser permissions. So I have no idea how difficult it is, though I do know you need to make sure you 100% know what you're doing before attempting it - especially if you have s-off. It's a pandoras box if you mess it up.
Ah okay, I'll definitely stick with Froyo for now then. I've always stayed 1 version behidn with Fedora lol.
I did get the drivers working, made my gold card, about to downgrade my firmware.
Are the instructions the same for 1.84.666.2 ?
Edit: Successfully rooted. Now time to find a new ROM. thanks again for all the help. Quesiton though, I have no HSDPA icon anymore...do I need a new "radio" or something?
No, it will do that and some ROMs don't have either the 'H' or the 3G' icon - just depends on the developer. You can still flash a different radio - anyone listed in the G2 radio sticky will work, flash a few and see what works best for you.
There's also a radio version/.ril file issue being debated so you might check that thread too and flash the zip provided just to be safe. I think it's in the G2 questions forum but I can't remember.
I'm using Salvage Mod right now, and before that I used Fresh EVO for a very long while, but I'm looking to change once more. What I'm looking for is a ROM that is quick, smooth, and has all features working (For example my GPS doesn't work well currently in Salvage Mod). Could anyone recommend me some names to check out?
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I'm using Salvage Mod right now, and before that I used Fresh EVO for a very long while, but I'm looking to change once more. What I'm looking for is a ROM that is quick, smooth, and has all features working (For example my GPS doesn't work well currently in Salvage Mod). Could anyone recommend me some names to check out?
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Synergy RC2. Its fast, stable, and feature rich. I use navigation constantly for work (sometimes up to 20 destinations a day) and its just as good as stock.
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Mym's Warm 2.2
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Watcher07 said:
Synergy RC2. Its fast, stable, and feature rich. I use navigation constantly for work (sometimes up to 20 destinations a day) and its just as good as stock.
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Will definitely be looking into this, thank you!
I was hearing a lot of talk about MIUI so I decided to check that out. It seems...interesting. I'm not sure how I like the removal of the app drawer (Maybe it's back in there now, the video I watched laying out the ROM was months and months old), but it could be worth checking out.
Still open to suggestions. I might end up wiping and flashing a few different ROMs just to get a feel for which I like best.
Sorry I ment Myn's Warm 2.2 get the latest version. It's just like fresh but better
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Synergy was a little boring for me, you're on an AOSP ROM now if you want a good Sense ROM try King's Alliance, lots of themes and such to try. I like EvolvedROM myself and am using the version 2.0. Very quick, nice visuals. If you liked Fresh try Calkulin's EViO 3 v1.0
I'll check out Myn's as well. Also, I don't mind staying AOSP. I don't mind not having sense at all. I actually prefer ADW.
synergy rc 2 with my sd card partition everything is running fine.
Enternal prophecy or miui.
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skatrwannabe3 said:
Synergy was a little boring for me, you're on an AOSP ROM now if you want a good Sense ROM try King's Alliance, lots of themes and such to try. I like EvolvedROM myself and am using the version 2.0. Very quick, nice visuals. If you liked Fresh try Calkulin's EViO 3 v1.0
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I agree that visually its not great, but there is a fantastic theme made by _Burst_ called plurstaralpha http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1149482 that is significantly cool. I very much recommend the theme as I have tried very many roms and themes and this one for as incredibly stable as it is, looks EXCEEDINGLY cool.
I didn't really like MIUI. I then gave Synergy a shot next and I love it. I'm gonna stick with this! Thanks for the help, guys!
I'm sure you have already figured this out, but MIUI doesn't have an application drawer. You can put all items in a folder, and then dock the folder, but it doesn't have a dedicated drawer. It also doesn't contain 4G capabilities.
You were on an AOSP Rom, so I would advice Cyanogen, if you haven't already looked into it. I am currently running their nightly builds (I flash every time they have an update that intrigues me.) and they are working fine. I'm currently on 143 with no issues. GPS works fine, 4G is working, etc. The Rom is very quick, you can install a different launcher if you wish, but it comes with ADW stock. You can flash customer kernels/Ram optimization scripts to make it fly and contain perfect battery life. I also ran RC1 of CM7.1 and it was fine as well, no issues with any of the features. I prefer the nightlies simply because they add new features into it to "test" before they release them into a "stable" version.
I have no objections when it comes to Sense, except for the bloat that it has. My favorite Sense based Rom I ran on here at the moment would have to be Synergy RC2. It was fast and ran fine, however, HTC has yet to drop the source code for their kernel, so you are stuck with their stock one which provides contributes to the already mildly depressing battery life that Sense will give you.
All in all, there are plenty of awesome Roms on here. People can talk all day about why one Rom is their favorite or why they prefer it over another, it all comes down to personal preferences. I would run the suggested ones that seem to interest you and see which ones you like the best.
Hope I helped, even if it wasn't much.
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I'm sure you have already figured this out, but MIUI doesn't have an application drawer. You can put all items in a folder, and then dock the folder, but it doesn't have a dedicated drawer. It also doesn't contain 4G capabilities.
You were on an AOSP Rom, so I would advice Cyanogen, if you haven't already looked into it. I am currently running their nightly builds (I flash every time they have an update that intrigues me.) and they are working fine. I'm currently on 143 with no issues. GPS works fine, 4G is working, etc. The Rom is very quick, you can install a different launcher if you wish, but it comes with ADW stock. You can flash customer kernels/Ram optimization scripts to make it fly and contain perfect battery life. I also ran RC1 of CM7.1 and it was fine as well, no issues with any of the features. I prefer the nightlies simply because they add new features into it to "test" before they release them into a "stable" version.
I have no objections when it comes to Sense, except for the bloat that it has. My favorite Sense based Rom I ran on here at the moment would have to be Synergy RC2. It was fast and ran fine, however, HTC has yet to drop the source code for their kernel, so you are stuck with their stock one which provides contributes to the already mildly depressing battery life that Sense will give you.
All in all, there are plenty of awesome Roms on here. People can talk all day about why one Rom is their favorite or why they prefer it over another, it all comes down to personal preferences. I would run the suggested ones that seem to interest you and see which ones you like the best.
Hope I helped, even if it wasn't much.
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Great post! You seem to know your stuff, mate. Well, as much as I love Synergy if the battery life isn't great, then I might have to give it the boot. As for the CM7 nightly builds...what exactly does that mean? Does it mean there will be a new ROM every night that I would have to download and then flash again? Or is it an automatic update that occurs? Or what?
NewbieX2 said:
Great post! You seem to know your stuff, mate. Well, as much as I love Synergy if the battery life isn't great, then I might have to give it the boot. As for the CM7 nightly builds...what exactly does that mean? Does it mean there will be a new ROM every night that I would have to download and then flash again? Or is it an automatic update that occurs? Or what?
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They make a new build of the rom almost every night, adding new features and bug fixes to the rom. You can follow the change log, and download the new rom and flash whenever something interests you. You dont have to wipe data, you can just install over the existing rom without losing your settings, but always make a backup just in case.
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They make a new build of the rom almost every night, adding new features and bug fixes to the rom. You can follow the change log, and download the new rom and flash whenever something interests you. You dont have to wipe data, you can just install over the existing rom without losing your settings, but always make a backup just in case.
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Interesting. Glad to hear that about the data wipe, though. I'm going to have to look into this stuff. Thanks!
Actually, I have one last question! When installing the nightly, do I have to first install the stable version? Or can I just wipe everything and install the 87MB nightly. I ask because 87 megs just seems small for a ROM.
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Actually, I have one last question! When installing the nightly, do I have to first install the stable version? Or can I just wipe everything and install the 87MB nightly. I ask because 87 megs just seems small for a ROM.
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It's 87 Megs because it's Cyanogen. That is exactly why I don't like Sense, due to the "bloat" it gives the Rom. Synergy is about 290MB I believe, Cyanogen is 90MB. Lol the nightlies are the complete Rom, you can wipe and flash them. You don't have to install the stable version first.
Keep in mind, the nightlies do contain issues every once in a while. Like I stated previously, I am on 143 and it is running perfectly for me. I will update once they put an update out that gets me excited.
Edit - You may find this neat, if you like the Sense feel but are on Cyanogen.
GeneralSky2004 said:
It's 87 Megs because it's Cyanogen. That is exactly why I don't like Sense, due to the "bloat" it gives the Rom. Synergy is about 290MB I believe, Cyanogen is 90MB. Lol the nightlies are the complete Rom, you can wipe and flash them. You don't have to install the stable version first.
Keep in mind, the nightlies do contain issues every once in a while. Like I stated previously, I am on 143 and it is running perfectly for me. I will update once they put an update out that gets me excited.
Edit - You may find this neat, if you like the Sense feel but are on Cyanogen.
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I like ADW launcher the most, so I'll be stickin with that bad boy. It's default with CM7 IIRC? That should do it for me. I had no idea Sense took up so much space, though...that is ridiculous.
Since you've got no issues with 143 and have helped me out so much I'll start there if I decide to make the switch. Synergy has some reeally awesome features that I like, but I should be able to part with it if CM7 has it's own weapons. Gonna try to find some videos for it now.
Thanks for all the help, man!
I want to install the Incredikernel since I hear is so good and I am running the OTA Unofficial Froyo 2.2 Rom from incredibleroms.com. I am rooted and everything. Can I install the Kernel? And how do I install it?
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start here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035923&highlight=kernal+how+to
then here- http://www.theincrediblelist.com/kernels/incredikernel.html
Basiclly find your ROM you wish to flash, good place to start is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Then finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Always read, read, read, search, search, Google, read and read lol. Hope this helps
Much thanks to
chad0989
ithrewitontheground
Jacksonroh
cvbcbcmv
for untold amount of knowledge they have passed on
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start here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035923&highlight=kernal+how+to
then here- http://www.theincrediblelist.com/kernels/incredikernel.html
Basiclly find your ROM you wish to flash, good place to start is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Then finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Always read, read, read, search, search, Google, read and read lol. Hope this helps
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Thats really good information. But how do i know weather I am running AOSP or SENSE? Like I said I have the OTA Unofficial 2.2 Froyo Update, and I know AOSP means it started from scratch but I dont know wether the Rom i installed is, how can I figure this out through the phone or can you just tell me
It sounds like you're on a sense rom. Sense is HTC's skin for android, it adds certain functionalities and features (primarily social networking). If you have HTC apps (check settings>applications>manage applications) then you're using a sense rom. Do you have HTC sense widgets available to add to your screens? Then it's sense.
Chad has an incredikernel for froyo (android 2.2) sense roms, it should be near the bottom office the OP of his incredikernel thread. If you want to use his latest kernels, they are only for AOSP gingerbread (android 2.3) roms. AOSP roms for the incredible include cyanogenmod, MIUI, OMGB & OMFGB, IncDeck, evervolv, and liquid light.
I suppose you could say AOSP (android open source project) roms are built from scratch, but it might be more accurate to say built from source, the source being Google's. Just about every phone is shipped with the manufacturer's "version" of android on it, sense for HTC, blur for Motorola, touchwiz for Samsung. Only Google's nexus devices ship with the unmolested "stock" version of android, and that's why they are always the first to receive updates. Hopefully this info helps!
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It sounds like you're on a sense rom. Sense is HTC's skin for android, it adds certain functionalities and features (primarily social networking). If you have HTC apps (check settings>applications>manage applications) then you're using a sense rom. Do you have HTC sense widgets available to add to your screens? Then it's sense.
Chad has an incredikernel for froyo (android 2.2) sense roms, it should be near the bottom office the OP of his incredikernel thread. If you want to use his latest kernels, they are only for AOSP gingerbread (android 2.3) roms. AOSP roms for the incredible include cyanogenmod, MIUI, OMGB & OMFGB, IncDeck, evervolv, and liquid light.
I suppose you could say AOSP (android open source project) roms are built from scratch, but it might be more accurate to say built from source, the source being Google's. Just about every phone is shipped with the manufacturer's "version" of android on it, sense for HTC, blur for Motorola, touchwiz for Samsung. Only Google's nexus devices ship with the unmolested "stock" version of android, and that's why they are always the first to receive updates. Hopefully this info helps!
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Thanks so much man
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No problem. If I helped and you feel so inclined, feel free to hit the thanks button
Does anyone Have SkyRaider 4.2? If so what kernel you running and what benefits are you gaining?
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Does anyone Have SkyRaider 4.2? If so what kernel you running and what benefits are you gaining?
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Using Incredikernel; so far runs good.
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Alright can you help me locate a Rom of my liking?
I really like the Stock rom, but I want a AOSP Rom. I basically just want it to have the Stock HTC Launcher but I dont want it to be so slow for instance, for me Skyraider 4.2 is slow because it takes five times the length of time for it to Boot Up then using the Stock 2.2 unofficial OTA.
Is Binny Rom a AOSP rom? And I dont want to lose the 8MP camera or 720p HD Recordings.
Well, if you need 720P, there aren't any AOSP gingerbread roms that will work. Also, if you want the HTC launcher, you'll need to be on a sense rom, there's no way to use it on AOSP.
That said, what are you looking for in a rom? Skyraider is a very solid rom, and will be very similar in functionality and stability to the stock rom. I don't know why it would take so much longer to boot, are you using the stock skyaider kernel or another one?
Let me know what features you have to have in a rom and we'll figure it out. Unless you read through all the rom threads (like I do for some reason), it can be hard to tell what the feature and especially functionality differences are.
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Well, if you need 720P, there aren't any AOSP gingerbread roms that will work. Also, if you want the HTC launcher, you'll need to be on a sense rom, there's no way to use it on AOSP.
That said, what are you looking for in a rom? Skyraider is a very solid rom, and will be very similar in functionality and stability to the stock rom. I don't know why it would take so much longer to boot, are you using the stock skyaider kernel or another one?
Let me know what features you have to have in a rom and we'll figure it out. Unless you read through all the rom threads (like I do for some reason), it can be hard to tell what the feature and especially functionality differences are.
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I used the stock kernel for sky raider. I believe Sky Raiders is a sense rom isn't it?
And basically I want something that is stable with no foreclosures. With the stock rom I have never had a foreclose. Something that i can customize the look of easily I loved sky raider for that but then i want to a AOSP rom to have the liberty of messing around with my phone better. I really don't mind the hd recording I just want to keep my 8mp camera.
Also can't I install a launcher from the market to give me stock looks?
If u tell me sky raider is also then i will keep that one
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You're right, you can install a launcher from the market and should be able to find a sense-like theme for it if you want. I'd recommend making a backup of your current rom, then flash the latest cyanogenmod nightly. The nightlies have some newer features that the "stable" releases don't have, and they're just as stable, if not moreso. With CM7, you have a TON of options for themes and modifications, and its always been perfectly stable for me. Look around in the android themes section and search "CM7 theme" on the market to get an idea of all the ways it can be customized.
With CM7, you won't have 720p video recording, but the still camera can be used at full resolution. There are an unbelievable amount of features and tweaks that CM7 adds, I'd recommend looking through the wiki on their website and browsing the threads in the development section. If you don't like it, you can always restore your backup. It might be fun to check out some of the new gingerbread sense roms too, if you like the sense interface. Those roms aren't as stable or fast as CM7, or froyo sense roms (like skyraider), but can be fun to mess around with.