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Well its official, Evo is getting 2.2 tommorow.
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/evo-4gs-android-2-2-update-starts-trickling-out-tomorrow-loads/
SO my question is...Stock OTA 2.2 or should I root and go for Cyanogenmod?
iball8888 said:
Well its official, Evo is getting 2.2 tommorow.
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/evo-4gs-android-2-2-update-starts-trickling-out-tomorrow-loads/
SO my question is...Stock OTA 2.2 or should I root and go for Cyanogenmod?
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I'm running CM6 now and I miss Sense, so I am going to install a rooted verison of the 2.2 OTA ASAP. The Evo is doesn't feel like the Evo without Sense, IMO.
cloud858rk said:
I'm running CM6 now and I miss Sense, so I am going to install a rooted verison of the 2.2 OTA ASAP. The Evo is doesn't feel like the Evo without Sense, IMO.
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wut ! lol CM6 = win
ASOP lacks polish in a few areas. SMS, dialer, contacts, call log.
It's beyond lack of polish really, it's like it was rushed and just thrown in as an after thought.
Sense in those same areas, especially the dialer, is much better.
All personal opinionthough as some people hate sense as much as I dislike ASOP.
You can easily find (often better) replacements for sense functions in the market. just sayin.
MSmith1 said:
You can easily find (often better) replacements for sense functions in the market. just sayin.
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true story
Copy-Paste in Sense, it pwns n00bs
Once the official 2.2 comes out it will make AOSP all that much better. The little bugs that are currently in cm6 will be rather shortly I bet. There are only two features of sence that I like over also...cut and paste and no hassle Facebook sync of contacts with birthdays and calander events.
With the release of the oficial froyo, cyanogen would get better, cyanogen would have everything working...
Remember when roms didnt have everything working, after htc release the source and 1.47 OTA, then in days the roms get everything working...
I got over 1600 in quadrant and 49.6 in linpack using cm6... for me, the root its the way to go...
I think the real question is, are you willing to flash stock 2.2 and lose root, possibly forever?
fr4nk1yn said:
ASOP lacks polish in a few areas. SMS, dialer, contacts, call log.
It's beyond lack of polish really, it's like it was rushed and just thrown in as an after thought.
Sense in those same areas, especially the dialer, is much better.
All personal opinionthough as some people hate sense as much as I dislike ASOP.
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It may lack polish, but Sense looks worn out.
Furthermore, although I agree the Sense dialer is better, the stock messaging app is better than the Sense version. The Sense version has a brief loading screen every time you open a thread, even if there is a single message in the tread. In addition, the stock messaging app shows your friends' gtalk status, which is a great feature.
Honestly, Sense means nothing to me.
Sense for WinMo makes sense...its need because Winmo navigation and such sucks. But Android does most of what Sense does in stock. I don;t see the big the deal about Sense.
Really it just depends on your personal preference. AOSP is great and has its weaknesses... as well as Sense. Try running both ROMs once they are officially released for a couple of days... see which one you like. Each user is different and uses their Evo differently than others... so it just comes down to preference.
Eep...DARN YOU PERSONAL PREFERNCE!!!
I was hoping someone would mention if there are huge bug fixes and more features compared to stock.
iball8888 said:
Eep...DARN YOU PERSONAL PREFERNCE!!!
I was hoping someone would mention if there are huge bug fixes and more features compared to stock.
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You will have alot more features with cyanogen then you will with stock... thats for sure
Yep...your linpack score will go up about 1-2% with cm6. Of course does it really make a difference? Don't know myself, going from baked snack to cm6 and linpack score of 9ish to 40ish didn't make a difference in anything I saw, and I missed Sense (personal preference and all).
The benefit of this forum and all the development here?
cm6 will only be one of many different 2.2 roms you will be able to try out. Have fun trying them all...I did, and I can't wait to try some new ones in the coming days and weeks! And it only takes 5 to 10th minutes to flash a new ROM and restore my titanium backup.
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I love Cyanogen 6, with a few exceptions.
#1 I like Sense widgets, I have looked for replacements on the market, but there is just no replacement. I have liked Rosie since it was leaked on the G1 a year ago.
#2 4G is coming to my area soon, and although I am sure Cyanogen will have fixed it given the next roll out, Froyo + Sense is all I am really after.
#3 In my opinion, its people like Cyanogen, Toast and friends that push HTC/Google to push out these ROMs. Sprint even included their own wireless tether thanks to the community.
#4 With the New advocation of Cellphone Hacking, there will be leaps and bounds with the next ROMs. I suspect that this roll out is just the beginning.
The only thing I would like in my Sense ROM is the Dialer from Cyanogen.
SilverZero said:
I think the real question is, are you willing to flash stock 2.2 and lose root, possibly forever?
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if this idea was possible then NO NEVER.
but..
inconceivable!
CM6 is very good, but lacks here and there because it's based off 2.2 from the Nexus. Even if some of the functions of the Evo were made to work, the code might not be as clean as a native Evo rom. I'm thinking Cyanogen may move all of his *extra* developments for the Evo over to the native 2.2 base. I can't wait to see what he does with it now that he doesn't have to worry so much about making all the stock functions of the Evo work
Sense >>> AOSP, just disable Rosie and use Launcher Pro.
CyanogenMod is still buggy and incomplete so the OTA tomorrow will be a much better at least for a while.
Hey I have an Incredible, and recently rooted and used the skyrider 2.52 rom. Then Verizon came out with "official froyo" and i downgraded and did the OTA. Well I hate the OTA because it has so many "spam" programs... So i would like to re root.... well there are so many different roms to choose from. Can some one explain the differences between them or the pluses and negatives of them. I like sence, but with froyo the sence isn't as nice as of upgrade above the stock as it was in 2.1. I like the facebook picture to contact integration, but i really don't know if stock has that either. I would just like a rom that is fast, efficient, and not a bunch of extra "b.s." that kills my battery. Any advice or comments are greatly apprieciated.
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kmcrane
kmcrane said:
Hey I have an Incredible, and recently rooted and used the skyrider 2.52 rom. Then Verizon came out with "official froyo" and i downgraded and did the OTA. Well I hate the OTA because it has so many "spam" programs... So i would like to re root.... well there are so many different roms to choose from. Can some one explain the differences between them or the pluses and negatives of them. I like sence, but with froyo the sence isn't as nice as of upgrade above the stock as it was in 2.1. I like the facebook picture to contact integration, but i really don't know if stock has that either. I would just like a rom that is fast, efficient, and not a bunch of extra "b.s." that kills my battery. Any advice or comments are greatly apprieciated.
Thanks you
kmcrane
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IMO.
Vanilla = Ruby or SkyRaider
Sense = Virtuous
I think SkyRaider vanilla still has some sense left (I'm on virtuous atm) but I don't think any ROM Ive listed doesn't have the ability to us FB pics as I think it is part of the facebook app (I could be wrong).
Ruby is VERY fast and the latest version has killed off all the bugs that bothered me, but I kind of missed sense in places and also some of the SkyRaider features.
Virtuous doesn't get as good of Quadrant scores as the other two (for me) but runs REALLY smooth and I took out all the stuff I hated about sense.
All preference, but this should probably go in the Q&A forum. There are a few other posts just like this one (mine included) so you could read opinions already posted.
Try out Virtuous or Redemption. There are some others that are vanilla - no sense - but you have to try them for yourself. Each of the ones I mentioned removed all the bloat.
With regards to battery, look at the battery calibration thread.
First root using unrevoked 3.2
I recommend skyraider vanilla, its fully functional and has all the good stuff from vanilla. The only real things that it has from sense is the keyboard and dialer. Which I think is an improvement until a fully working CM Rom is released.
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Thank you for the replies, but i thought there was skyrider, with sence and skyrider vanilla (no sence) I like the sence, that is why i got the incredible instead od droid or droid x. But the new 2.2 is not good. thank you kappo9000 for your post. I used unrevoked 3.2 then used skyrider with sence (pre 3.0) and i liked it better than the new OTA. But I took a "stap in the dark" when i chose that. If this needs to move to a Q&A that is fine. I just downloaded and leard about roms here, so that is where i posted. I wish Verizon didn't bloatware our phones, it's like buying a new computer... pretty soon they will have a option to pay $50 and they will clean our phones before we get them.
Thanks again evberybody i will read this over for a few days then i will pick one. And as for the facebook thing, if i get it on any rom, then SWEET!
kmcrane said:
Thank you for the replies, but i thought there was skyrider, with sence and skyrider vanilla (no sence) I like the sence, that is why i got the incredible instead od droid or droid x. But the new 2.2 is not good. thank you kappo9000 for your post. I used unrevoked 3.2 then used skyrider with sence (pre 3.0) and i liked it better than the new OTA. But I took a "stap in the dark" when i chose that. If this needs to move to a Q&A that is fine. I just downloaded and leard about roms here, so that is where i posted. I wish Verizon didn't bloatware our phones, it's like buying a new computer... pretty soon they will have a option to pay $50 and they will clean our phones before we get them.
Thanks again evberybody i will read this over for a few days then i will pick one. And as for the facebook thing, if i get it on any rom, then SWEET!
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Pick up ROM Manager. It's the BEEEEEST way to test all the ROMs. My procedure is to go in and "Backup Current ROM" so I can name it how I like (today I backed up SkyRaider as 0908-SkyRaider3RC2 for instance) then just wipe my data and cache when I install a new one without backing up.
Then I'll play with the new ROM for a while, and, if I like it, I'll back that one up to either install a new ROM or go back to one of my others.
In effect, you can take a snapshot of a ROM/config and roll between all of them to find out which one you like better. You can do that for yours now and play with whatever you like. Be warned : with all the REALLY good ROMs in this forum, you will suck up an entire night or two just playing with them I just wish the guys I work with did such a pro job like they do.
I think there are a few ways to go:
Pure minimalistic AOSP builds - Ruby / IncredibleDoes
More tweakable AOSP builds - CM
Senseless - Redemption, Virtuous (if remove sense apks) and SR Vanilla
Sense- Redemption, Virtuous, SR Sense, Stock
PS Not so sure with Redemption and Virtuous, haven't tried them before.
I personally like the minimal style of Ruby / ID, but it's all about personal preference. These ROMs all are fantastic in their own way, so try them out!
Haha, and yes, I have spent (*ahem. Read: WASTED) entire nights tweaking / trying out just ONE ROM. xD
Anyway, happy ROM-hunting! Do let us know which you pick =]
one problem. Unrevoked 3.2 is gone, and i can't seem to root 2.2 so do i have to downgrade first? and if so what is the best way?
I too am new to this ROM installing business, but so far I think that I'm leaning towards Ruby. Seems light and will be a nice change from what I've been used to.
And about your rooting question kmcrane, it is probably best just to wait for the unrevoked team to finish up with v3.21 instead of going through a rough downgrade process. It probably will not take them too much longer anyway. (their twitter feed said earlier today that they were going to be putting out test builds soon)
OK well i went back to 2.1 rooted and installed.......... Virtuous 2.6! I think it is the closest to stock Incredible froyo that is very complete. I like the screen shots of SkyRaider Sence, but there are updates and bugs with that.. I will keep an eye on that one and maybe use the rom manager to back up, then try that one. I would like to thank everyone who replied on here to help me, and everyone that posted the endless amounts on posts on XDA forums. I have read so many "how to's" and everyone is just great! I wish we could all just go out for a beer sometime! HAHA Thanks all!
I'd recommend SkyRaider Sense any day!.. Sky Raider has put in a lot of effort into making this aesthetically pleasing and stable. With virtuous, you are as good as installing the official ota..
If you want to have the benefit of sense, with a few modifications to sense.. go with skyraider.
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IMO.
Vanilla = Ruby or SkyRaider
Sense = Virtuous
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I 2nd these choices but haven't tried Ruby. SkyRaider was the first Rom I tried and I've on n have used virtuous the longest so far and love it. I've also tried CM, Frankenrom, and Fourth Wave but it errored on install and the forums say something about upgrading hboot which I won't do so I deleted it.
Good call!
Sent from DInc running Virtuous ROM
I have v 2.6 now. I see the screen shots of skyraider with sence and it looks cool. Redemption has new 2.0 and it looks like you can add mods to change it up... if i back up my v 2.6 and try a different rom, do i reinstall all my apps? Can i use app brain to help with that? Cause i have 50+ apps. I would like a stock-like rom and maybe one totally different... also what does Vanilla mean? I see sence, stock, and vanilla..... what is the differences and advantages of each?
Thanks guys/gals
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kmcrane said:
I see sence, stock, and vanilla..... what is the differences and advantages of each?
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Here's what I understand and someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Sense is the ROM with SenseUI code (extra coding that makes the HTC's so neat compared to Moto)
Stock is pretty much just as it was when you bought it. (original ROM installed by manufacturer)
Vanilla is pretty much the Android OS running on a particular phone without the extra coding (like on the Sense)
Many of the ROM's have both a sense and a vanilla version so if you like Sense and it's widgets etc. you can get that one and if you want to customize the most you can get the vanilla.
Virtuous is an awesome ROM. Skyraider has both sense and vanilla avail. Ruby is just vanilla and also Cyanogen if I'm not mistaken.
Hope this helps some!
I upgraded to Virtuous 2.7 and it is cool. I guess with all the modding and roms, i have gotten bit by the customize bug. Virtuous ROM was fine, but pretty much the same as the stock (except a few small things in 2.7) I think i want something different and fresh. Circle Battery looks cool. maybe something where i can customize the bottom buttons (phone, all apps, and add to home) it would be nice to change those. The main thing is i don't want crap unwanted software, (city id, amazon mp3, etc...) Thanks again for all the help and input,
Oh kmcrane, SkyRaider vanilla latest release showed up on ROM manager a few hours ago!
I've been using the new Virtuous 2.7 with the battery saving kernel and really liking it. Basically, it's like a stock froyo with some liposuction and a bit of plastic surgery--crapware all gone, some very nice SmoothSense modifications, and rock solid (no crashes or FCs). With the alternative kernel, you can add SetCPU and customize settings to maximize battery life.
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i checked with the search function, and got no results. Are there any big differences in roms? right now ive got it narrowed down to gingerbread, CM6.1 and the incredibly Re-engineerd one.
what exactly do i look for in a rom? What are the advantages over the stock one?
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i checked with the search function, and got no results. Are there any big differences in roms? right now ive got it narrowed down to gingerbread, CM6.1 and the incredibly Re-engineerd one.
what exactly do i look for in a rom? What are the advantages over the stock one?
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Alright. Gingerbread/CM6.1 are for if you like AOSP ROMs (google stock, no Sense). Incredibly Reengineered is essentially an insanely optimized stock HTC ROM (Sense). However, don't stop there! The Desire Z ROMs have some excellent features, like hibernating for 3-second boot and excellent themes, and Evo framework ROMs are, in general, insanely stable. MIUI is an AOSP ROM that kind of mimics the iPhone UI while still retaining Android, and Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo is an Evo framework ROM that (for me at least) gives INSANE battery life, even on the puny stock battery (down to 66% after 9 hours of heavy use yesterday). I advise you take another look through the ROMs, because if you read deeper into features of some of them, it might shake up your whole list.
Feel free to reply/PM me about this anytime
Yeah, there're some pretty big differences. Some with Sense, some based on Sense but with it removed, and AOSP based ROMs completely Senseless . Just read throught the OPs for the ROMs you're interested in, they usually have screenshots and a list of features and issues. Other than that, I'd suggest you backup with nandroid, read the instructions and flash away. You won't really know what you like until you've tried them for yourself.
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Yeah, there're some pretty big differences. Some with Sense, some based on Sense but with it removed, and AOSP based ROMs completely Senseless . Just read throught the OPs for the ROMs you're interested in, they usually have screenshots and a list of features and issues. Other than that, I'd suggest you backup with nandroid, read the instructions and flash away. You won't really know what you like until you've tried them for yourself.
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God yes. Nandroid. THE killer app for any rooted Android user lol
ALWAYS use nandroid. If there's not enough SDcard space to make a nandroid backup, make room. You'll thank us for that one
So yeah, I have a crapload of questions.
I recently asked about rooting and keeping HTC Sense. In retrospect, I don't think I'll need Sense, I just tried out AppLauncher, and I have to say, I think I'm sold on it. I'm just wondering what exactly HTC Sense has? Is there anything it has that I'll really miss? So far the only thing I can think of is the HTC Sense website for a lost phone, backing up data, and the weather widget/FriendStream...though adding Facebook to HTC sense shows all my contacts in the Phone button which is a huge piss off, but meh.
So that being said, I think I'm about ready to give rooting a shot, but now I've been confused with even more things. And the more I read the more I get confused. Especially where I have to downgrade the firmware, I'm wondering if it's still okay to do this, since the guy at Bell told me if I didn't do / get certain updates I'd have to send my phone back to HTC for repair.
There's stock Android, Cyanogen, and it seems like a million other ROMs. Which is the best to use? If I want total customizability, but also good functionality?
Finally, I'm using a Bell-branded Desire Z on the the Bell network. So Whatever I do will need to work okay with it.
As I've said, I'm totally new to this, and I'm scared to hell of bricking my phone since I just signed a contract and don't to shell out $500 bucks for a new one.
There's just so much info on this forum and it's a bit overwhelming/confusing, not that a lot of info is a bad thing, I'm just lost lol.
EDIT: If anything I wrote seems too rambling or doesn't make much sense please specify that and I'll clarify it.
cant help you root your phone but just follow the instructions that the person who writes the threads say. It's not that easy to brick your phone unless you just completely dont follow directions.
1. Downgrade is perfectly fine, it's to allow you to use a certain method to root your phone.
2. Try out different roms to see what you like, it's like asking whats your favorite video game, how can you really choose, some will agree some wont. I personally like the Miui roms which is the iphonelike and android UI mashup. the apps built in are nice on the eyes, the physics of the phones movement is very smooth, it can oc to 1.5ghz, and you can just download a launcher to replace the original if you dont like it.
3. ask the dev's on the thread if your not sure. i have no idea about bell, but it would seem that it shouldnt have any affect on rooting your phone, just maybe the radio but that is different then rooting or flashing roms.
P.S. you might miss the small things from Sense like, it looks nice, turns on fast, widgets, the dialer to search contact, incoming calls doesnt disrupt navigation, and it's original live wallpaper lol.
So are you saying that I can't search by contact in the default phone app? That kind of sucks.
I guess more of what I'm asking is just based on people's experiences what the best route to go is. I know there are different tastes, I'm more concerned about reliability, so I'm sure people could help with a ROM choice with that criteria.
So downgrading firmware won't affect phone performance? And can it still be reverted to stock in case the phone needs warranty repair? Just trying to cover all my bases.
And thanks, I'll ask around in the deg thread.
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So are you saying that I can't search by contact in the default phone app? That kind of sucks.
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There are usually apps available that provide Sense functionality to non-Sense ROMs. In regards to the above, you can try DialerOne.
To help you with the ROMs think of them in terms of how different Linux OS's are setup (if you know a bit about this).
You have the base OS's such as Cyanogen. Now some one doesn't like the look of that so they change the Frameworkres.apk to give it defferent colors, transparencies, icons and so on. Now they want a few extra apps to be included in the install so they add them to the /system/app directory or add a /data directory. Repackage it and now they have a custom OS called WINNING ROM (or whatever). These are easy to do and can be completed in a matter of minutes since there aren't any big alterations in the base coding of the OS. This is why you see a lot of ROMs that look like Cyanogens and the developer usually (and should be) states what version of some one elses ROM it's based off of.
Then you have ROMs that tweak certain parameters for speed or add other functionalities to a ROM such as a custom kernel, audio/video codecs, a2ext, compcache/linux swap, and others. Plus a complete custom UI (launcher), port parts of other ROMs such as Sense to work on their ROM, and toms of other things. These take days, weeks, or even months and usually have release cycles and updates. Cyanogen, Virtuous, Enomther, Villain, and a few others make up these ROMs.
Hope that helps with your ROM quest. It can be a bit overwhelming but remember to ask, ask, ask, and then ask some more and also read, at least the OP (original post) and a few pages past that. Some people may get upset and flame you for it but most will be glad to help in any way.
If you flash a non-Sense ROM, you will miss the HTC camera app. Its far and away better than the stock Android one, and I haven't found any Market camera apps that measure up, either. Also, the camera button on the Sense builds seems much more responsive than on CM7.
Also, I'm not sure about this, but the Sense ROMs seem to have better or more hardware codecs for playing a wider array of video formats. Lots of the videos I've tried on CM7 and CM6 are only playable using software decoding (on a variety of players, but RockPlayer is my favorite) and end up super laggy (very low frame rate) and audio way out of sync. On stock Sense and Virtuous, those videos play fine, hardware decoding, silky smooth, and audio in sync.
There are some aesthetic stuff, like HTC does some pretty significant theme changes for Sense, and you will lose customizations like the HTC Skins. And you will lose the HTC widgets (like the clocks) and apps (stocks, weather). But as mentioned, there are lots of Market apps that pretty well simulate many of the Sense apps and widgets, or are very suitable replacements.
Thanks for the detailed replies guys.
KCRic, thanks for list of known ROMs that's basically what I wanted to know, and your Linux flavour comparison helped too
Redpoint, I'm not sure how often I'd ever use the camera anyway...when I get home I'll have to find some screens of the default camera. That being said, I see your ROM is Virtuous. Is that a Sense-like ROM in case I agree with you on the ca?era app?
Thanks!
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Redpoint, I'm not sure how often I'd ever use the camera anyway...when I get home I'll have to find some screens of the default camera. That being said, I see your ROM is Virtuous. Is that a Sense-like ROM in case I agree with you on the ca?era app?
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Wow, you don't use the camera? I use it all the time, for those "spur of the moment" snapshots, or to quickly take a pic that I can MMS to a friend or family.
Yes, Virtuous is mostly stock Sense, but with some optimizations and with some extra features added. Its also based on the 1.85 ROM, one of the more recent stock Sense versions.
Guides, links for just about everything you can ever think of is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431
BTW, be sure to click the "Thanks" button if you found responses to be helpful!
ROM LIST
Sense ROMS
Gingerbread - Android 2.3
Shokouhi 2.0
Desire S G2 Port Sense2.1
Probably others.
Froyo - Android 2.2
Virtuous
Stock ROMS
Gingerbread - Android 2.3
CyanogenMod 7
Stock Gingerbread 1.7
iceandfire 1.7
Pyromod 1.2
GingerVillian 1.5
meXdroidMod
Froyo - Android 2.2
CyanogenMod 6
Others of unimportance now.
The Other ROMS
Gingerbread - Android 2.3
MIUI (The 2.3 one)
Froyo - Android 2.2
MIUI (The 2.2 one)
LiquidVillian (Or whatever it was called.)
I probably just wasted 10 minutes of my life doing this, but meh, it was something to do.
Now to kill myself since I had to listen to Nickelback through it. Damn 4Music.
I would hardly call CM7 (and ROMs based on it) "Stock".
Although "Non-Sense" is not a very good sounding name for that category, also.
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I would hardly call CM7 (and ROMs based on it) "Stock".
Although "Non-Sense" is not a very good sounding name for that category, also.
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AOSP Based.
There should be 2 categories. CM Based and AOSP.
But I don't think there are any AOSP ROMs. Which I hate, cos when people say they've built a stock ROM, but it's based on CyanogenMod.
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Wow, you don't use the camera? I use it all the time, for those "spur of the moment" snapshots, or to quickly take a pic that I can MMS to a friend or family.
Yes, Virtuous is mostly stock Sense, but with some optimizations and with some extra features added. Its also based on the 1.85 ROM, one of the more recent stock Sense versions.
Guides, links for just about everything you can ever think of is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431
BTW, be sure to click the "Thanks" button if you found responses to be helpful!
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So I'm guessing no one has cooked up a weird ROM that is like Cyanogen with the Sense camera app lol.
Anywho, I really only have a couple of questions now.
Would you recommend Gingerbread or Froyo? I'm guessing Gingerbread probably runs better / is better than Froyo, but it's hard to say.
Also, how easy is it to restore my phone to factory condition if I need to?
And finally, I read the wiki, it says to make sure I have the windows USB drivers installed...do I just throw those in my windows drivers folder?
EDIT: Wanted to add, the instructiosn for recovering to stock doesn't include the version. So any help there is appreciated.
Or you know, if any of you would be so kind to PM me / add me to IM if you've done this on a Bell phone in Canada that would be awesome too
The drivers go in your Android SDK folder, where ever adb resides. At least on XP and Vista that's the case - I'm not sure if the adb issue was ever resolved in Windows 7. You could always use VM linux or dual boot linux if you like, it's much easier imo. Wubi works too I think.
When it comes to Froyo vs. Gingerbread it's literally like a linux in the sense that one is completely stable and well known by this point (Froyo) an the other is bleeding edge, not stable at times, some things are just not compatible unless you port them, and peoples knowledge base on it isn't as thorough.
I've never returned this phone to stock, which I assume you mean s-on and no superuser permissions. So I have no idea how difficult it is, though I do know you need to make sure you 100% know what you're doing before attempting it - especially if you have s-off. It's a pandoras box if you mess it up.
Ah okay, I'll definitely stick with Froyo for now then. I've always stayed 1 version behidn with Fedora lol.
I did get the drivers working, made my gold card, about to downgrade my firmware.
Are the instructions the same for 1.84.666.2 ?
Edit: Successfully rooted. Now time to find a new ROM. thanks again for all the help. Quesiton though, I have no HSDPA icon anymore...do I need a new "radio" or something?
No, it will do that and some ROMs don't have either the 'H' or the 3G' icon - just depends on the developer. You can still flash a different radio - anyone listed in the G2 radio sticky will work, flash a few and see what works best for you.
There's also a radio version/.ril file issue being debated so you might check that thread too and flash the zip provided just to be safe. I think it's in the G2 questions forum but I can't remember.
I want to install the Incredikernel since I hear is so good and I am running the OTA Unofficial Froyo 2.2 Rom from incredibleroms.com. I am rooted and everything. Can I install the Kernel? And how do I install it?
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start here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035923&highlight=kernal+how+to
then here- http://www.theincrediblelist.com/kernels/incredikernel.html
Basiclly find your ROM you wish to flash, good place to start is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Then finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Always read, read, read, search, search, Google, read and read lol. Hope this helps
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jcoddinc83 said:
start here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035923&highlight=kernal+how+to
then here- http://www.theincrediblelist.com/kernels/incredikernel.html
Basiclly find your ROM you wish to flash, good place to start is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Then finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Always read, read, read, search, search, Google, read and read lol. Hope this helps
Much thanks to
chad0989
ithrewitontheground
Jacksonroh
cvbcbcmv
for untold amount of knowledge they have passed on
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Thats really good information. But how do i know weather I am running AOSP or SENSE? Like I said I have the OTA Unofficial 2.2 Froyo Update, and I know AOSP means it started from scratch but I dont know wether the Rom i installed is, how can I figure this out through the phone or can you just tell me
It sounds like you're on a sense rom. Sense is HTC's skin for android, it adds certain functionalities and features (primarily social networking). If you have HTC apps (check settings>applications>manage applications) then you're using a sense rom. Do you have HTC sense widgets available to add to your screens? Then it's sense.
Chad has an incredikernel for froyo (android 2.2) sense roms, it should be near the bottom office the OP of his incredikernel thread. If you want to use his latest kernels, they are only for AOSP gingerbread (android 2.3) roms. AOSP roms for the incredible include cyanogenmod, MIUI, OMGB & OMFGB, IncDeck, evervolv, and liquid light.
I suppose you could say AOSP (android open source project) roms are built from scratch, but it might be more accurate to say built from source, the source being Google's. Just about every phone is shipped with the manufacturer's "version" of android on it, sense for HTC, blur for Motorola, touchwiz for Samsung. Only Google's nexus devices ship with the unmolested "stock" version of android, and that's why they are always the first to receive updates. Hopefully this info helps!
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It sounds like you're on a sense rom. Sense is HTC's skin for android, it adds certain functionalities and features (primarily social networking). If you have HTC apps (check settings>applications>manage applications) then you're using a sense rom. Do you have HTC sense widgets available to add to your screens? Then it's sense.
Chad has an incredikernel for froyo (android 2.2) sense roms, it should be near the bottom office the OP of his incredikernel thread. If you want to use his latest kernels, they are only for AOSP gingerbread (android 2.3) roms. AOSP roms for the incredible include cyanogenmod, MIUI, OMGB & OMFGB, IncDeck, evervolv, and liquid light.
I suppose you could say AOSP (android open source project) roms are built from scratch, but it might be more accurate to say built from source, the source being Google's. Just about every phone is shipped with the manufacturer's "version" of android on it, sense for HTC, blur for Motorola, touchwiz for Samsung. Only Google's nexus devices ship with the unmolested "stock" version of android, and that's why they are always the first to receive updates. Hopefully this info helps!
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Thanks so much man
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No problem. If I helped and you feel so inclined, feel free to hit the thanks button
Does anyone Have SkyRaider 4.2? If so what kernel you running and what benefits are you gaining?
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Does anyone Have SkyRaider 4.2? If so what kernel you running and what benefits are you gaining?
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Using Incredikernel; so far runs good.
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Alright can you help me locate a Rom of my liking?
I really like the Stock rom, but I want a AOSP Rom. I basically just want it to have the Stock HTC Launcher but I dont want it to be so slow for instance, for me Skyraider 4.2 is slow because it takes five times the length of time for it to Boot Up then using the Stock 2.2 unofficial OTA.
Is Binny Rom a AOSP rom? And I dont want to lose the 8MP camera or 720p HD Recordings.
Well, if you need 720P, there aren't any AOSP gingerbread roms that will work. Also, if you want the HTC launcher, you'll need to be on a sense rom, there's no way to use it on AOSP.
That said, what are you looking for in a rom? Skyraider is a very solid rom, and will be very similar in functionality and stability to the stock rom. I don't know why it would take so much longer to boot, are you using the stock skyaider kernel or another one?
Let me know what features you have to have in a rom and we'll figure it out. Unless you read through all the rom threads (like I do for some reason), it can be hard to tell what the feature and especially functionality differences are.
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Well, if you need 720P, there aren't any AOSP gingerbread roms that will work. Also, if you want the HTC launcher, you'll need to be on a sense rom, there's no way to use it on AOSP.
That said, what are you looking for in a rom? Skyraider is a very solid rom, and will be very similar in functionality and stability to the stock rom. I don't know why it would take so much longer to boot, are you using the stock skyaider kernel or another one?
Let me know what features you have to have in a rom and we'll figure it out. Unless you read through all the rom threads (like I do for some reason), it can be hard to tell what the feature and especially functionality differences are.
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I used the stock kernel for sky raider. I believe Sky Raiders is a sense rom isn't it?
And basically I want something that is stable with no foreclosures. With the stock rom I have never had a foreclose. Something that i can customize the look of easily I loved sky raider for that but then i want to a AOSP rom to have the liberty of messing around with my phone better. I really don't mind the hd recording I just want to keep my 8mp camera.
Also can't I install a launcher from the market to give me stock looks?
If u tell me sky raider is also then i will keep that one
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You're right, you can install a launcher from the market and should be able to find a sense-like theme for it if you want. I'd recommend making a backup of your current rom, then flash the latest cyanogenmod nightly. The nightlies have some newer features that the "stable" releases don't have, and they're just as stable, if not moreso. With CM7, you have a TON of options for themes and modifications, and its always been perfectly stable for me. Look around in the android themes section and search "CM7 theme" on the market to get an idea of all the ways it can be customized.
With CM7, you won't have 720p video recording, but the still camera can be used at full resolution. There are an unbelievable amount of features and tweaks that CM7 adds, I'd recommend looking through the wiki on their website and browsing the threads in the development section. If you don't like it, you can always restore your backup. It might be fun to check out some of the new gingerbread sense roms too, if you like the sense interface. Those roms aren't as stable or fast as CM7, or froyo sense roms (like skyraider), but can be fun to mess around with.