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[Q] Benchmarks vs. Nexus One please

Since the two processors are different ...
G2: MSM7230 at 800 MHz
N1: QSD8250 at 1,000 MHz
... and I know you shouldn't compare MHz unless they're the exact same chip... which one is better overall?
Also, disregarding clock speed, what chip is newer / better? Meaning if you underclock the N1 to 800MHz which one would be better?
I know there are benchmark programs out there for Android.
Anybody run one on their G2? How do they compare to N1?
Thanks,
~Eric
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G2 is faster in every way possible
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbMuuA2HjMw
Linpack scores are very similar <=34
Quadrant scores, The G2 wins by 5-10%
Neocore, The G2 is about twice as fast

On the latest benchmark my G2 scored 1683... Compared to ~1500 on my N1
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My G2 and N1 both get 1590 on quadrant and then similar linpacks from 30 and up
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Sweet... thanks.
From what I heard about the G2, before it came out was that it wasn't anything special and didn't offer anything over any other phone already out there.
So its up to par with N1 as far as speed goes.
It doesn't have a front facing camera like the Evo does.
How is the flash on the G2? I have seen the Droid's and the N1's flash and they're awesome.
I'll probably upgrade to G2 as soon as its rooted (permanently).

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Wow the highest quad score I've gotten is 1654, how did u pull off that 1800???
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^

Lucky benchmark I guess.
Usually I get 1500-1600, though.

Here's my highest:

FunkyELF said:
Also, disregarding clock speed, what chip is newer / better? Meaning if you underclock the N1 to 800MHz which one would be better?
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Well, the MSM7230 chipset is technologically superior due to it being manufactured with a 45nm process, versus the QSD8250 being manufactured with a 65nm process. It also contains the new Adreno 205 GPU, whereas the QSD8250 makes use of the Adreno 200 GPU.

Benchmarks
Take a look at this review.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3967/the-tmobile-g2-preview/4

mejorguille said:
Here's my highest:
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Just wondering how can you take ss of quad?
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^

Jorsher said:
Lucky benchmark I guess.
Usually I get 1500-1600, though.
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After multiple runs I got an 1825! Haha but I dnt know how to screen shot. So I has no prof =( only got 1800s once though rest were all 1600s-1700s.
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^

I got up to 2300.. I don't know how to take screen shots..
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mftek said:
I got up to 2300.. I don't know how to take screen shots..
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On the G2? That's a damn lie.
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TL24 said:
On the G2? That's a damn lie.
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Serious.. I'm in the la area
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I just ran it again right now and got 9556... but I just realized something. I'm using speedtest not quadrant. Sorry lol
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mftek said:
I just ran it again right now and got 9556... but I just realized something. I'm using speedtest not quadrant. Sorry lol
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Lol you had everyone scratchin' their heads for a min. there!
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mejorguille said:
Here's my highest:
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whoa, how did u get quadrant to show the breackdown of each score bar in different colors?
ah figured it out

Wow 2124mhz overclock!!

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Jijonheoni's kernel
After he screenshot it has frezz
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How dare you sir
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WOW. That battery life must be atrocious! But man, you could run windows 7 on this beast at 2 GHz with 1GB ram. Good lord...
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I have no idea what I'd use that for! But looks awesome!!!!!

look awesome!
i wonder what is the score on antutu benchmark?

idan_mo said:
look awesome! i wonder what is the score on antutu benchmark?
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Try to re-read OP. The phone freezes after taking screenshot, so most likely Antutu wouldn't even start. That's insane overclock.

Could probably poach an egg on his CPU
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Cute screenshot.
I'm guessing he will stop when that massive overvolt starts warping the plastic on his device

Hi,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1608194&highlight=glados
Second screenshot...

안녕하세요 RSD님 hina님께 들었어요 ㅎㅎㅎ
언제 이걸 또 올리신건가요?? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Hello, RSD, hina heard you. kkk
Are you the writer of this also?

Jijonhyuni said:
안녕하세요 RSD님 hina님께 들었어요 ㅎㅎㅎ
언제 이걸 또 올리신건가요?? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Hello, RSD, hina heard you. kkk
Are you the writer of this also?
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I'm interested in ur kernel
So I made this thread
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antutu is turned off
This is the same on 2048Mhz...
video
http://youtu.be/E6-xvknzS9o
clocktable 2.124
I using 2.0Ghz clock table(some time freeze) & screenshot

But can it run crysis ?????

THS1989 said:
But can it run crysis ?????
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Crack open the case, overclock the gpu to something stupid, and keep it in a wind tunnel at all times and sure lol
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Jijonhyuni said:
antutu is turned off
This is the same on 2048Mhz...
video
http://youtu.be/E6-xvknzS9o
clocktable 2.124
I using 2.0Ghz clock table(some time freeze) & screenshot
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Hi,
Can you give your voltage for this frequency?
To get an idea ...
Thanks

THS1989 said:
But can it run crysis ?????
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2.124Ghz clock all app freeze.
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viking37 said:
Hi,
Can you give your voltage for this frequency?
To get an idea ...
Thanks
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CM-PLUS kernel is based on
This kernel by changing the clock table is created.
Live OC the unsupported

Hey look! This guy has a faster car than us! Let's race him!
V
R
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BOOM
OH WAIT
HE EXPLODED
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Completely ridiculous overclock.. has anyone found the real limit of what our phone can do?
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Smokeey said:
Hey look! This guy has a faster car than us! Let's race him!
V
R
O
O
O
O
O
M
BOOM
OH WAIT
HE EXPLODED
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boom does not but my phone will burn the meat
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ChongoDroid said:
Completely ridiculous overclock.. has anyone found the real limit of what our phone can do?
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But can not be used to ...

Well played sir
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Two of cores are disabled ?

Hello!
The device is HTC One X updated to version 1.29.401.7
I installed a program that gives me information about hardware - Anfish. The information for the CPU gives the maximum and minimum frequency on last two of cores at 0 Mhz (see attached screenshot). Why? Does this mean that they are disabled and the device work only on two cores?

Probably means the app can't read all 4 cores

Give this app a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1615666&highlight=cpu
If do something CPU intensive, you should see all four cores in action (assuming everything is OK)

HTC Answer
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Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Once again, we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience that you have experienced.

HTC don't have a clue what they're on about - I'd ignore it as it's not faulty IMO but perhaps wait and see what others put

Tried the app you mentioned in first post. It shows all my cores
Edit: My ROM is leedroid with stock kernel
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h00py said:
Tried the app you mentioned in first post. It shows all my cores
Screenshot below:
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h00py, please tell me what is your software version?

Software info:
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h00py said:
Software info:
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h00py, is your software number 1.29.401.7 ?

Ran the test again, now I'm getting the same result as you lol. It must change the frequencies on the fly.
Screenshot:
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pristis said:
h00py, is your software number 1.29.401.7 ?
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Yup
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h00py said:
Yup
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Strange. Why HTC told me to swap the device?

Can you tell me the App Name you use for testing ?

pristis said:
Hello!
The device is HTC One X updated to version 1.29.401.7
I installed a program that gives me information about hardware - Anfish. The information for the CPU gives the maximum and minimum frequency on last two of cores at 0 Mhz (see attached screenshot). Why? Does this mean that they are disabled and the device work only on two cores?
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I also checked using advance task manager app and found that only two cores work for most of the time and other remains zero all time. And then played some hd games and found that other started to work.
So don't worry. No fault on your device.
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DominatingSystem said:
Can you tell me the App Name you use for testing ?
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Anfish
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS5hMHNvZnQuZ3Bob25lLmFUcnVmZmxlSG9nIl0.

my HOX is on 1.28 and it only shows 2 but its benchmark is 11744 so i think all cores are working.

It's not gonna be running 4 cores all the time. Battery would drain even faster than it already is. It's hotplugging so for most general tasks it will run 2 cores.
Heavy tasks like games and benchmarks should use all 4 cores. Just make sure everything is updated and your on latest ota.
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pewpewbangbang said:
It's not gonna be running 4 cores all the time. Battery would drain even faster than it already is. It's hotplugging so for most general tasks it will run 2 cores.
Heavy tasks like games and benchmarks should use all 4 cores. Just make sure everything is updated and your on latest ota.
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This. There is nothing wrong with your phone.
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pristis said:
HTC ANSWER ABOUT FIRST TOPIC
Thank you for contacting HTC.
We apologize for any inconvenience that you are facing
With regards to your enquiry, kindly we ask you to contact your retailer and try to swap your device because you bought it less than 30 day but we can't confirm for you that it is a must for the retailer to swap it because it differ from retailer to another . So if the retailer refused to swap it, kindly we ask you to contact our repair center on the following data...
Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Once again, we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience that you have experienced.
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EddyOS said:
HTC don't have a clue what they're on about - I'd ignore it as it's not faulty IMO but perhaps wait and see what others put
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Wow HTC thinks it faulty even though it's meant to power down the cores when they are not needed.
if you guys want to see your cores doing their thing get tegra stats
http://goo.gl/EqjhS
and as for two cores disabled you can do this if you are rooted, mount as R/W go to /sys/kernel/debug/tegra_hotplug
open max_cpus and change it from 4 (default) to 2, will limit force the phone to only use 2 cores till you restart.
if you set to 1 it will still use two cores.

Exynos 5 Dual-Core ARM15 Beast

Take a look at this:
http://www.androidguys.com/2012/08/10/samsung-details-next-gen-exynos-5-dual-processor/
Key specifications for the system-on-a-chip (SoC) include the following:
Cortex-A15 dual core (with each core running at 1.7GHz speed)
Up to 2560×1600 WQXGA display support
1080p 60fps video hardware
High-speed interfaces USB 3.0 and SATA3
Image Signal Processor (ISP) of 8M pixel 30fps
OpenGL ES 3.0, OpenCL 1.1, and DirectX 11 support
Pretty beefy.
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hope that in the next nexus:fingers-crossed:

Nerdgasm!!

i would prefer if the next nexus had the OMAP5 processors

IINexusII said:
i would prefer if the next nexus had the OMAP5 processors
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For what reasoning?

No mention of integrated LTE radio?
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Exynos probably still has poor memory management and is closed source. I DOUBT it will be I'm the next nexus. Next Nexus is more likely to have OMAP5 or S4 on it.
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For me Exynos will never be a nexus processor.
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Smokeey said:
Exynos probably still has poor memory management and is closed source. I DOUBT it will be I'm the next nexus. Next Nexus is more likely to have OMAP5 or S4 on it.
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What are you talking about? Even the current dual core Exynos smokes the Omap4 in memory management. It's an I/O monster and multitasking on it is way better than with the Omap4!
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According to some opinions, this SoC may first be seen in a Windows 8 tablet(due to USB 3.0 and DX11 support). If this ever came to android, it would be EPIC.
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Elisha said:
What are you talking about? Even the current dual core Exynos smokes the Omap4 in memory management. It's an I/O monster and multitasking on it is way better than with the Omap4!
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I/O monster, LOL.
Just what we need. A monster at that which is not a bottleneck
If you take CPU for CPU, and shave off the GPU, there is very little difference in real performance.

I find very interesting that it has Directx 11 support.
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moshe22 said:
I find very interesting that it has Directx 11 support.
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Probably for windows 8.

Wow,directx?niiice
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adrynalyne said:
Probably for windows 8.
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Most likely. So it would be safe to assume that Samsung will try to dominate the Windows tablet arena too.
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adrynalyne said:
I/O monster, LOL.
Just what we need. A monster at that which is not a bottleneck
If you take CPU for CPU, and shave off the GPU, there is very little difference in real performance.
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I/O is part of the chipset capability GPU aside. So again the Exynos comes out on top!
The Omap4 is just more open source friendly.
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Elisha said:
I/O is part of the chipset capability GPU aside. So again the Exynos comes out on top!
The Omap4 is just more open source friendly.
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Benchmarks and real world rarely see eye to eye.
I prefer something that has tangible benefits, but if thats what floats your boat, have at it
Once again, neither disk or memory I/O (in nand based devices) has been a bottleneck for quite some time.
If it cannot show real, tangible improvements, its a waste of time. I have not seen anything showing that the Exynos vs. Omap4 in pure CPU are any better than each other. Unless we want to argue benches again.

adrynalyne said:
Benchmarks and real world rarely see eye to eye.
I prefer something that has tangible benefits, but if thats what floats your boat, have at it
Once again, neither disk or memory I/O (in nand based devices) has been a bottleneck for quite some time.
If it cannot show real, tangible improvements, its a waste of time.
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You obviously haven't used the Transformer Prime then if you think I/O is not a bottleneck!
I've owned the SGS2 and still have the Transformer Prime and I can tell you that crappy I/O equals to crappy and choppy multitasking.
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Elisha said:
You obviously haven't used the Transformer Prime then if you think I/O is not a bottleneck!
I've owned the SGS2 and still have the Transformer Prime and I can tell you that crappy I/O equals to crappy and choppy multitasking.
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Interesting, because its i/o is better than the GS2 for cpu and ram and about the same for disk (less for the reviewer's unit). Nexus 7 has a Tegra 3 and has no issues.
Maybe, just maybe, io isn't the real issue there. I honestly don't know. Its not the hardware though if the Nexus 7 doesn't have those issues. Also, maybe you weren't aware, but how you mount your filesystem affects io. Thats naught to do with hardware.
Another:
I also think you can plainly see from this one that aside from GPU, GS2 and Omap4 are fairly similar. I hate referring to benchmarks but I think its the only language you understand

galaxy chat b5330 open source released

samsung released ICS open souce for galaxy chat b5330 , i think we can use it for our Y am not sure about it ,
link : http://opensource.samsung.com/index.jsp;jsessionid=118A6216889722275485EEE5164E918A
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If the cpu is same, then i too think we can use it to porr ICS for Y...
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Reserved...Links

raspbery pi
We can also use the source of android 4.0 ported to raspberry pi

Well nothing on the cpu..can't get any info regarding the device microprocessor details

Apexpreadtor said:
We can also use the source of android 4.0 ported to raspberry pi
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nano already tried that and he said he failed
the SGchat is our last hope

This is kernel source guys!
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hell_lock said:
This is kernel source guys!
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hey friends for pi infos look [email protected] lock its not so easy as all things.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695353

CALIBAN666 said:
hey friends for pi infos look [email protected] lock its not so easy as all things.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695353
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Who said its easy?
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i mean it generaly.i know how you mean this.

anasdcool71 said:
If the cpu is same, then i too think we can use it to porr ICS for Y...
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Just downloaded it...
It's not the same CPU, kernel config file says "Broadcom BCM21654", not 21553, and Android sources (of course INCOMPLETE) says "arm-v7a" while our Y is an arm-v6

What about gpu?
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UnNegroFeo said:
Just downloaded it...
It's not the same CPU, kernel config file says "Broadcom BCM21654", not 21553, and Android sources (of course INCOMPLETE) says "arm-v7a" while our Y is an arm-v6
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how it could be arm v7 as our cpu is 832MHZ & chat is 850MHZ not much difference.

hmahadi98 said:
how it could be arm v7 as our cpu is 832MHZ & chat is 850MHZ not much difference.
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it is different,
but we can use some of the device configs

on d whole my xpresiion is atlast.
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its good

@all: can someone mirror original chat source kernel to mediafire or github??
Always fail when dL from samsung source..
Thanks b4..

vamsi1661 said:
Both don't have the same processor so not much useful ....
But I've got something I hope will be useful ....
There is a Samsung released open source ICS platform for a phone whose model no. is GT-S5302 which seems to be Galaxy Pocket Duos.
dropbox.com/s/ju682vxor6e60sw/OSRC%20S5302.PNG
opensource.samsung.com/reception.do
So what's soo intresting about it ?
It has got the same BCM21553 processor as our beloved Galaxy Y and most of its hardware is same except reduced screen size and dual sim capabilities.
I couldn't find much details about this phone as it is being sold in Russia apparently so i got review link showing the details and here are a few screenshots taken from the video embedded in the review confirming the processor and RAM details...
delaite.by/text_reviews/obzor_samsung_galaxy_pocket_duos_s5302/
dropbox.com/s/pl9rbbxy8xrne91/S5302%20Processor%20Details.PNG
dropbox.com/s/5c1f6yknlizlo1t/S5302%20RAM.PNG
I hope this kernel will be useful for the Devs to build an ICS ROM for Galaxy Y which we've been waiting for long ....
I tried to share information which is true to the best of my knowledge, if anything is wrong please ignore this post.
Forgive me as i could not embedd the screenshots as this is my first post @XDA.
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can you (or someone else) confirm from kernel source (if you already download) if soc is BCM21553 ?
btw, welcome to xda

maybe cant confirm yet because the release of the phone is in russia... maybe months from now

I downloaded it
and that's what is in it :-
GT-S5302_Kernel.txt
GT-S5302_Kernel.tar.gz
GT-S5302_Platform.txt
GT-S5302_Platform.tar.gz
the 2 TXT files are attached