wich tablet is better? - Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2, 10.1, 8.4 Q&A, Help & Trouble

im want to buy a good tablet my suggestions is those :
asus transformer pad tf701t vs samsung galaxy tab pro 10.1
wich is betteR?

niba10 said:
im want to buy a good tablet my suggestions is those :
asus transformer pad tf701t vs samsung galaxy tab pro 10.1
wich is betteR?
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I had both.
The Samsung is BY FAR the better tablet. The Asus is awful. The lag problem is very very real.

but he has tegra 4 how its lag?

niba10 said:
but he has tegra 4 how its lag?
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The CPU does not make de difference if the OS is not well integrated. I had the TF201 and nothing but lag. Asus is not a software company, it's an hardware one. OS wize, Asus tab are not optimized.
Samsung, even though they have touchwiz, lag to a minimum compared to other ones. Their update are maybe slower coming but they are much more robust and optimized for a better experience.

urself25 said:
The CPU does not make de difference if the OS is not well integrated. I had the TF201 and nothing but lag. Asus is not a software company, it's an hardware one. OS wize, Asus tab are not optimized.
Samsung, even though they have touchwiz, lag to a minimum compared to other ones. Their update are maybe slower coming but they are much more robust and optimized for a better experience.
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Can u tell me why i have poor performance on my 10.1
i have low fps on asphalt 8 high graphics
and i cant even lunch heroes of order and chaos its
crash at start

niba10 said:
Can u tell me why i have poor performance on my 10.1
i have low fps on asphalt 8 high graphics
and i cant even lunch heroes of order and chaos its
crash at start
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Asphalt 8 works great on mine. Heroes i had to install but crashed also. Problem with the game itself and not the tab.

urself25 said:
Asphalt 8 works great on mine. Heroes i had to install but crashed also. Problem with the game itself and not the tab.
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Asphalt 8 works but not on high graphics only on low it should be
like it?
on high i have low fps(15 fps on high settings)

niba10 said:
Asphalt 8 works but not on high graphics only on low it should be
like it?
on high i have low fps(15 fps on high settings)
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I'll test it again tonight and give you my result after.

I don't see a difference at high. How do you know about the fps?

urself25 said:
I don't see a difference at high. How do you know about the fps?
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fps meter app

Maybe you have power saving mode enabled?
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Does the galaxy nexus lag with latest games??

I have a nexus S and some games like GTA3 and temple run heavily lag. I was thinking of upgrading to galaxy nexus but I am not sure about it's combination of resolution and GPU? I mean in nenamark 2 my nexus S scores the same as galaxy nexus. :S
Ofcourse there is a dual core CPU and more Ram which might actually be the limitation of nexus S as I doubt the SGX540 is limiting me at 800x480. But still want to confirm gaming performance.
Well on temple run I experience no lag whatsoever, same for every other game I play, don't have any experience with gta 3 though.
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rusty815 said:
Well on temple run I experience no lag whatsoever, same for every other game I play, don't have any experience with gta 3 though.
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You are on stock?
GTA3
I was playing GTA3 earlier today and it runs smooth. I had a Galaxy S II and that ran it a little smoother then the Nexus but it almost seemed a little sped up. You will be happy with GTA3 on the Nexus....
Nothing lags. With the CPU handling the HD Decoding the GPU is left to do most of the graphics.
GTA3 works great btw.
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i had the same question as OP.....is there Any game which lags on GNEX
BTW how much space is available for Apps??
Been playing Shadowgun and get no lag...runs smooth
reddead66 said:
i had the same question as OP.....is there Any game which lags on GNEX
BTW how much space is available for Apps??
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Did not find any game that is unplayable or slow so far....
All the internal memory is available, that is the beauty of MTP, you don't have different partitions, so everything is installed over the same partition (and there is a symbolic link to /mnt/sdcard in order to make applications that want to save anything to the SDCARD happy, but again, it is the same partition, so all your free space is available no matter what you wanna do).
Temple Run is silky smooth for me on a stock GSM phone with 4.0.1. I experienced lag playing Six Guns though.
I experience a tiny bit of lag on stock 4.0.4
Flashed liquidsmooth and franco kernel though and everything has been super smooth since.
I experienced lag spikes when running gangstar Rio city of saints ... not sure is it software issue though.
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matthewr87 said:
Temple Run is silky smooth for me on a stock GSM phone with 4.0.1. I experienced lag playing Six Guns though.
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Six guns on 4.04 is working smooth for me
I got a *tiny* bit of lag when playing Dead Space...although, I was at the time getting a text message, and email, and a calendar notification within about 1 minute of each other so I would like to think it wasn't really the game causing the lag. Haha. Dead Space runs amazingly well otherwise, though. Very happy with that purchase.
9mm seems to lag to me, and shadowgun is choppy but I guess its just the controls
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Oh well samsung why didnt you put in a qHD real RGB display?? Would have looked the same with so much better performance.
Gambler_3 said:
Oh well samsung why didnt you put in a qHD real RGB display?? Would have looked the same with so much better performance.
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Not necessarily better performance.
That said, 720p is the new thing.
Gambler_3 said:
Oh well samsung why didnt you put in a qHD real RGB display?? Would have looked the same with so much better performance.
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yeah i thought the same but, like in most smartphones today, only the numbers matters. pretty sure normal users wouldn't even know that there is such a thing like a pentile matrix
blockbusta said:
yeah i thought the same but, like in most smartphones today, only the numbers matters. pretty sure normal users wouldn't even know that there is such a thing like a pentile matrix
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The galaxy S2 had a fairly low resolution compared to it's competitors and yet it managed to be a huge success. But yes you are right, the HD pentile screen was put purely for marketing purposes.
Or better yet the nexus should have had iphone 4S GPU.
I wish samsung supported it's phones better, I would have gone with an S2 without a second thought.
Now the only other option is HTC one S which brings in faster chipset but significantly lower resolution so much better gaming performance. Now if only the pricing is right.
I'm on a Verizon Galaxy nexus running stock 4.0.2 and regarding GTA3 I haven't noticed any lag at all (I'm on the second island with hi-res textures and the mod to enable streetlights etc).
Temple run on the other hand runs horribly. After about 1500m or whenever the red coins start coming I started noticing major lag to the degree of making the game unplayable. It's sad that a second gen iPod touch can play this game fine but the galaxy nexus can't.

gaming performance in n5100/5110

heyyy... anyone can give me a review about gaming performance in note 8.... i found article say it stutering when play real racing 3... and this gadget have a poor performance in gaming??
can anyone give me a review about that...
i want to buy this n5100...
sorry for my bad english...
devilzzzz said:
heyyy... anyone can give me a review about gaming performance in note 8.... i found article say it stutering when play real racing 3... and this gadget have a poor performance in gaming??
can anyone give me a review about that...
i want to buy this n5100...
sorry for my bad english...
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For this time. Playing Games on Note 8.0 is ok. I have Fifa 2012, MC4, Fieldrunner 2, Real Rancing 3 and them run ok. But, I think for a longtime isn't good choice.
My son just got this tablet and I can tell you every game we have put on it has worked flawlessly. For us any game that works on my 10.1 has played as well if not better on the note 8 (including real racing 3).
duyminhphan said:
For this time. Playing Games on Note 8.0 is ok. I have Fifa 2012, MC4, Fieldrunner 2, Real Rancing 3 and them run ok. But, I think for a longtime isn't good choice.
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Can I know, what do you mean by for a long time isn't good choice? Is it become laggy if keep playing for a long time maybe 1-2 hours....
rpmbnsf said:
My son just got this tablet and I can tell you every game we have put on it has worked flawlessly. For us any game that works on my 10.1 has played as well if not better on the note 8 (including real racing 3).
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Do you mean everything that work on note 10.1 also work for. Note 8???
I also have note 10.1 but that's to big for me...
devilzzzz said:
Can I know, what do you mean by for a long time isn't good choice? Is it become laggy if keep playing for a long time maybe 1-2 hours....
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I think he means the shelf life... that it wont take long for games to start demanding more than what the note 8 has.
not that i agree completely..
devilzzzz said:
Can I know, what do you mean by for a long time isn't good choice? Is it become laggy if keep playing for a long time maybe 1-2 hours....
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All devices with Exynos 4412 are proved to be great in stability test, almost no throttling.
I'm doing a complete thumb suck here, but I expect the mali400 gpu that's in the Note 8.0 to start showing it's age in a year to two years.
What I mean by that is top games will still be very playable... But lag will become more and more noticeable in certain areas of the game. Either that or some of the bells and whistles will be turned off in the version that's 'officially' available to us on the Play Store.
After all... There will be a never ending push for ever more demanding games to 'show off' just how much better flagship devices are to previous generations. The Note 8.0 has a weaker gpu than the phone I bought 2 years ago... It can't be *that* much longer before it can no longer keep pace...
Just sayin....
FaeMinx said:
I'm doing a complete thumb suck here, but I expect the mali400 gpu that's in the Note 8.0 to start showing it's age in a year to two years.
What I mean by that is top games will still be very playable... But lag will become more and more noticeable in certain areas of the game. Either that or some of the bells and whistles will be turned off in the version that's 'officially' available to us on the Play Store.
After all... There will be a never ending push for ever more demanding games to 'show off' just how much better flagship devices are to previous generations. The Note 8.0 has a weaker gpu than the phone I bought 2 years ago... It can't be *that* much longer before it can no longer keep pace...
Just sayin....
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True, but this applies to almost all new technology. Always something new coming out. I'll keep mine for a year and sell it when I upgrade to the next greatest thing
ok thanks... now i just wait for the gadget come hope everything work perfectly... gaming,browsing,watching... and the battery life i hope just from morning till afternoon or night... :laugh:
duyminhphan said:
For this time. Playing Games on Note 8.0 is ok. I have Fifa 2012, MC4, Fieldrunner 2, Real Rancing 3 and them run ok. But, I think for a longtime isn't good choice.
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Note 8 OR Nexus 7 Which one is good for gaming? Which is future proof (1 year atleast) in terms of gaming?
livetech2 said:
Note 8 OR Nexus 7 Which one is good for gaming? Which is future proof (1 year atleast) in terms of gaming?
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I think note 8.0 better. And maybe 6 month for heavy game. Normal games is no problems. Sorry for my bad English.
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The note 8 is very fast but uses the Mali 400 GPU, an older (is it two years old now?) GPU.
For gaming, I'd hold off until after Google I/O to see what devices are announced. If the N7 is refreshed with the Mali 604 or so (and/or a Tegra 4) and a decent display, you might want to wait until it can be ordered.
In ordinary use, the GN8 is the fastest Android device I've used, and has the least lag of any Android device I've used. The Nexus 7 is very good, but it's just not playing in this league. I'm sure there are some Tegra optimized games that the N7 will do better on, but the UI overall is not this quick.
Incredibly fast in my use, and I play numerous graphics intensive games. DEFINITELY better than n7, trust me, I've owned both
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Can the Mali 400 GPU be overclocked with a custom kernel in order to squeese a little more performance from it?
Overclocking the Tegra 2 GPU on my ASUS Transformer as well as the CPU made a big difference in its gaming performance.
roustabout said:
The note 8 is very fast but uses the Mali 400 GPU, an older (is it two years old now?) GPU.
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I'm having a little trouble tracking down exactly when the Mali-400 MP gpu was first released, but here's an article on it from 2008: !!!
http://beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=48319
It was still a pretty beefy gpu in the Galaxy SII in 2011... But as far as I know was upstaged by the Adreno 220, which was to be found in the HTC Sensation (the phone I bought in 2011).
Some more info from back then:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4760/arms-mali400-mp4-is-the-fastest-smartphone-gpufor-now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968

So I got the tab pro 10.1 WiFi.. but

I got the device mainly becouse I found a good deal it fit my not too high budget for a tablet. I am also a mobile gamer and I thought with its octa cpu it would handle all games perfectly. That does not seem to be the case, on highest grafics setting asphalt 8 runs at <20 fps while my HTC One m7 runs it perfectly. Is there any way to fix that? Also is there any chance of cyanogenmod for this device? I know it's hard for exynos cpus but is there really no way?
IE-coRe said:
I got the device mainly becouse I found a good deal it fit my not too high budget for a tablet. I am also a mobile gamer and I thought with its octa cpu it would handle all games perfectly. That does not seem to be the case, on highest grafics setting asphalt 8 runs at <20 fps while my HTC One m7 runs it perfectly. Is there any way to fix that? Also is there any chance of cyanogenmod for this device? I know it's hard for exynos cpus but is there really no way?
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same here...
I tried asphalt 8 and the FPS was very low... I was very disapointed.
but I'm pretty sure the problem is software related (this game is not optimized for the device), because I installed NFS most wanted and I was blown away with the graphics and smoothness of the game. If you like a good racing game similar (even better in my opinion) to asphalt 8, I highly recommend that you install NFS most wanted.:good:
an update by samsung or gameloft will eventually solve these problems...
pouya67 said:
same here...
I tried asphalt 8 and the FPS was very low... I was very disapointed.
but I'm pretty sure the problem is software related (this game is not optimized for the device), because I installed NFS most wanted and I was blown away with the graphics and smoothness of the game. If you like a good racing game similar (even better in my opinion) to asphalt 8, I highly recommend that you install NFS most wanted.:good:
an update by samsung or gameloft will eventually solve these problems...
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Yeah I also found out the problem must be related to asphalt because other games, even mc and gta sa run very well I will check out need for speed as well then

Asphalt 8 is running very slow

Hi guys,
i've got galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition (P602). I installed asphalt 8 but its running very slow on high graphics settings. I can only play this game very low graphics setting.
My Android version is 4.4.2. And I tried factory reset.
Is here any body having this issue?
fairblack said:
Hi guys,
i've got galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition (P602). I installed asphalt 8 but its running very slow on high graphics settings. I can only play this game very low graphics setting.
My Android version is 4.4.2. And I tried factory reset.
Is here any body having this issue?
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Mine is the P605 and just downloaded the game ran a race graphics at high. All ran smooth. Mine is all stock no custom roms..nothing. Is yours on power save? Any other apps open? I dont know sorry
Zeblade said:
Mine is the P605 and just downloaded the game ran a race graphics at high. All ran smooth. Mine is all stock no custom roms..nothing. Is yours on power save? Any other apps open? I dont know sorry
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Thank you for your reply. I guess your tablet has Snapdragon 800 cpu. May be there is a bug in this game for exynos version.
fairblack said:
Thank you for your reply. I guess your tablet has Snapdragon 800 cpu. May be there is a bug in this game for exynos version.
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It runs fine on my Exynos P600 with graphics set to high.
locovaca said:
It runs fine on my Exynos P600 with graphics set to high.
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Thank You. I gave my device to Samsung service then i read your post.
Can also report that the game runs well on my 607T (Exynos). The only exception is if I launch it.. before maybe 15 mins post boot, doing so results in extremely laggy performance. Otherwise it's all good, particularly so with Sixaxis & a PS3 controlller :good:

[Q] lags and stutters while gaming in zenfone 2 ze551 4gb

i recently bought Asus zenfone 2 ze551ml 4gb variant but i was very disappointing with its performance. i got the phone and it showed me system update 2.19.40 so i updated it and then installed a few games like asphalt 8, nova, mc5, etc. which i though this device would be able to handle pretty well. but to my surprise the these games didn't performed smooth...there weren't any lags but stutters in almost all the games. now i had seen many videos of gaming performance before buying this phone and everywhere it performed up to the mark. now i heard some where that the latest update is causing this. is this true?
is there a solution to this problem?
boom wagon said:
i recently bought Asus zenfone 2 ze552ml 2gb variant but i was very disappointing with its performance. i got the phone and it showed me system update 2.19.40 so i updated it and then installed a few games like asphalt 8, nova, mc5, etc. which i though this device would be able to handle pretty well. but to my surprise the these games didn't performed smooth...there weren't any lags but stutters in almost all the games. now i had seen many videos of gaming performance before buying this phone and everywhere it performed up to the mark. now i heard some where that the latest update is causing this. is this true?
is there a solution to this problem?
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The version you are referring to is not the latest update... Asus provided some graphic optimization in some update (i cant recall which update it was) So update your phone to the latest firmware (2.19.40.22) and then check... I am on latest firmware and i have mc4, mc5, nova and they all play fine...smooth no lags no stutters or glitches
mhp1995 said:
The version you are referring to is not the latest update... Asus provided some graphic optimization in some update (i cant recall which update it was) So update your phone to the latest firmware (2.19.40.22) and then check... I am on latest firmware and i have mc4, mc5, nova and they all play fine...smooth no lags no stutters or glitches
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thank you for the reply sir. yes, i checked, i am on the same firmware as you. the main issue is with asphalt 8. nova and mc5 are still ok, even riptide gp 2 has the same unsmooth game play...there is no lag but it looks like there are heavy frame drops. can you check it with asphalt 8. i am getting an fps of 28 (checked it with gamebench).
Yes, I played mc5 and asphalt 8 and also experienced micro stutter on the 551ml with the newest firmware. Gameplays looked alot smoother on youtube videos.
I tried moving the games to internal memory, but same problem.
Asphalt 8 running as smooth as it can here..
Hritik154 said:
Asphalt 8 running as smooth as it can here..
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Maybe I got accustomed to 60 fps
But really, can this be a hardware problem?
Exactly, even i am worried if its an hardware issue. Though i got a score of 47k on antutu so i doubt it is. Games like overkill 3 laG like hell. I am worried. Should i get my lhone replaced or what? Can anyone test on gamebench for fps of asphalt 8 who has it running smooth plz. Thank you.
boom wagon said:
Exactly, even i am worried if its an hardware issue. Though i got a score of 47k on antutu so i doubt it is. Games like overkill 3 laG like hell. I am worried. Should i get my lhone replaced or what? Can anyone test on gamebench for fps of asphalt 8 who has it running smooth plz. Thank you.
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I just downloaded reptide gp 2 and it's running smooth for now. I'll test the fps using gamebench in a bit.
Can't get gamebench to work. Sorry. :/
No problem. Thanks a lot for the reply though. Do let me know if it works.
Mail me at [email protected].
You may have seen this forum already, but nevertheless..http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=8531..
I got the zf2 about a week ago, so I'm unable to compare it to the performance before the latest updates.
Recommend using ASUS ZenUI app called ASUS Support. Please go to Apps/ASUS Support/Software/Slow app operation/Please follow 11 troubleshooting methods in this section.
Sincerely,
ASUS_USA
[email protected]
Asus_USA said:
Recommend using ASUS ZenUI app called ASUS Support. Please go to Apps/ASUS Support/Software/Slow app operation/Please follow 11 troubleshooting methods in this section.
Sincerely,
ASUS_USA
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Thanks for the reply, but those are steps I took before playing each game, and i always clear my cache after each firmware update. So I do not believe any of those steps offered a viable solution.
Edit-- These are the results of Asphalt 8. Phone was off charger, and in performance mode. Cache was also cleared in recovery. Also, in the xda review of the zf2, he said he got 45 fps.
trinimike100 said:
I just downloaded reptide gp 2 and it's running smooth for now. I'll test the fps using gamebench in a bit.
Can't get gamebench to work. Sorry. :/
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Heya, could you shoot me an email so I can give you a hand? jake [@] gamebench.net
Cheers,
Jake Daynes
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GameBench Ltd.
Thanks manman but I got it to work, I had multiple devices connected to adb.
Reptide gp 2 has huge fps drops.(20-30 fps).
I tried overkill 3, it was unplayable.
Can someone please check the fps on their device ? It would really help.
I do not believe it is a hardware problem, because i'm getting a decent score on antutu.
trinimike100 said:
Reptide gp 2 has huge fps drops.(20-30 fps).
I tried overkill 3, it was unplayable.
Can someone please check the fps on their device ? It would really help.
I do not believe it is a hardware problem, because i'm getting a decent score on antutu.
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I couldn't check the fps on those games but rp2 had stutters whereas overkill 3 was unplayable. Dissapointed with this phone.

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