This is going to be a fairly stupid question, and it seems that similar questions have been asked but never really fully answered.
I will be purchasing the new HTC One M8 and I cant understand the difference between the unlocked and developer edition. I am aware that the developer edition has an unlocked bootloader, but couldn't I just get the unlocked variant bootloader unlocked from HTCDev.com?
If that is the only difference, it seems they wouldn't make two different variants and just direct developers and those who wish to modify their phones software to HTCdev.com. I feel like there has to be some other difference.
Any info would be great.
Thanks
xsk8er9000 said:
This is going to be a fairly stupid question, and it seems that similar questions have been asked but never really fully answered.
I will be purchasing the new HTC One M8 and I cant understand the difference between the unlocked and developer edition. I am aware that the developer edition has an unlocked bootloader, but couldn't I just get the unlocked variant bootloader unlocked from HTCDev.com?
If that is the only difference, it seems they wouldn't make two different variants and just direct developers and those who wish to modify their phones software to HTCdev.com. I feel like there has to be some other difference.
Any info would be great.
Thanks
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With the m7 the only difference was the bootloader was unlocked from factory and for us type people that like to mess with there phones but unlock variant of the phone is for the people that are happy with the software and have a secure phone with bootloader locked. Now that being said about the m7, I'm assuming the m8 is going to be the same.
Also yes you can unlock the bootloader with the unlock phone. There might be a difference in the warranty also....
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Developer comes bootloader unlocked with a warranty. Unlocked comes locked and, if you choose to unlock the bootloader, you lose the warranty.
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jtc276 said:
Developer comes bootloader unlocked with a warranty. Unlocked comes locked and, if you choose to unlock the bootloader, you lose the warranty.
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This is along the lines of what I was figuring, but even when you go to HTCdev.com It says if you unlock it that you MAY lose your warranty if any damage was deemed related to you doing so. So if I mess up the phone on the dev edition it doesnt matter?
xsk8er9000 said:
This is along the lines of what I was figuring, but even when you go to HTCdev.com It says if you unlock it that you MAY lose your warranty if any damage was deemed related to you doing so. So if I mess up the phone on the dev edition it doesnt matter?
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On the dev edition you won't need to go to htcdev. You go through htcdev to unlock the bootloader, on the dev edition the bootloader is already unlocked.
On the unlocked version, they mean a different thing by unlocked. I'm guessing it is network unlocked (sim-free), whereas the developer is bootloader unlocked, two separate things.
3alaawi said:
On the dev edition you won't need to go to htcdev. You go through htcdev to unlock the bootloader, on the dev edition the bootloader is already unlocked.
On the unlocked version, they mean a different thing by unlocked. I'm guessing it is network unlocked (sim-free), whereas the developer is bootloader unlocked, two separate things.
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I understand the difference of what is being unlocked. Just seems silly to me to make the developer edition if you can just take the carrier unlocked version of the phone and unlock the bootloader anyway.
xsk8er9000 said:
I understand the difference of what is being unlocked. Just seems silly to me to make the developer edition if you can just take the carrier unlocked version of the phone and unlock the bootloader anyway.
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You know what, you got me, htc sell both the unlocked and developer version for $700 on their website. If its a case of warranty not being voided for the developer edition, it would make no sense for anyone to buy the unlocked at the same price. And seeing as htcdev provides a simple enough guide for any noob to unlock his bootloader I don't see why a skilled "developer" would need to buy a developer version.
I'm curious now.
jtc276 said:
Developer comes bootloader unlocked with a warranty. Unlocked comes locked and, if you choose to unlock the bootloader, you lose the warranty.
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Close the thread. You have the answer to your question.
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charlieb620 said:
Close the thread. You have the answer to your question.
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Sup Charlie
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jtc276 said:
Developer comes bootloader unlocked with a warranty. Unlocked comes locked and, if you choose to unlock the bootloader, you lose the warranty.
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Confirmed with HTC today that this is pretty much it. The rep said that if you get the Carrier Unlocked edition and unlock the bootloader from HTCdev.com that you may not be eligible for your warranty if it was deemed that damage was related to you doing so. Where as the developer edition keeps the warranty as it comes bootloader unlocked from the factory.
daorderdillon said:
Sup Charlie
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Sup
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Who is waiting to root without having to unlock the boot loader? I am dying for root access, but I am very worried about unlocking boot loader. I am a pretty advanced end user... Still, i don't want brick this awesome new phone though. Your thoughts and experiences would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance...
kemmo123 said:
Who is waiting to root without having to unlock the boot loader? I am dying for root access, but I am very worried about unlocking boot loader. I am a pretty advanced end user... Still, i don't want brick this awesome new phone though. Your thoughts and experiences would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance...
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Firstly you cannot root unless you unlock the bootloader. Secondly the only current method to unlock the bootloader is via HTCDev.com which is an official and tested method. You will not brick your device unlocking this way.
That's why I am asking about the risk of unlocking the boot loader. I guess I will just go for it?!
kemmo123 said:
That's why I am asking about the risk of unlocking the boot loader. I guess I will just go for it?!
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You'll be fine - it's easy to do. Plus if you do get stuck there are one or two people on this site who can help you out!
dr9722 said:
You'll be fine - it's easy to do. Plus if you do get stuck there are one or two people on this site who can help you out!
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Will do... Cheers... See you when I am rooted
dr9722 said:
Firstly you cannot root unless you unlock the bootloader. Secondly the only current method to unlock the bootloader is via HTCDev.com which is an official and tested method. You will not brick your device unlocking this way.
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Which phone should I select on htcdev.com to unlock the one x? All other models supported? It would be better to unlock it on a non-htc site, to avoid them knowing your warranty is expired after that..
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Slaytanic said:
Which phone should I select on htcdev.com to unlock the one x? All other models supported? It would be better to unlock it on a non-htc site, to avoid them knowing your warranty is expired after that..
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Yup, all other models supported. I did it that way without issues
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thom109 said:
Yup, all other models supported. I did it that way without issues
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I was wondering if I should select all other models too. Good to know it works considering all the warnings HTC posted on that page about things that can go wrong.
leaston said:
I was wondering if I should select all other models too. Good to know it works considering all the warnings HTC posted on that page about things that can go wrong.
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On HTCDev.com select "All Other Models". Just to clarify unlocking the bootloader on this site DOES NOT void your warranty. If your phone developed a screen defect for example HTC would fix this without charge under the warranty. If you bricked your phone as a result of flashing a custom rom then HTC would tell you to jog on.
Currently using HTCDev.com is the only method available to unlock your phones bootloader.
I was a little apprehensive myself but did it today, took all but 5 minutes!
Very easy and straight forward! Just follow the guides in the development section
winwiz said:
I was a little apprehensive myself but did it today, took all but 5 minutes!
Very easy and straight forward! Just follow the guides in the development section
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My first post on my unlock bootloader, rooted HTC one x!!!! Awesome!!!! So... Where is cm9? Haha!
dr9722 said:
On HTCDev.com select "All Other Models". Just to clarify unlocking the bootloader on this site DOES NOT void your warranty. If your phone developed a screen defect for example HTC would fix this without charge under the warranty. If you bricked your phone as a result of flashing a custom rom then HTC would tell you to jog on.
Currently using HTCDev.com is the only method available to unlock your phones bootloader.
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Thank you very much... But if I do unlock the phone, could it prevent me to update to 1.28 fw as it is released? Otherwise, if I wait for 1.28, can I unlock later? Maybe the two things are completely unrelated, can you clarify me this point?
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I have no problem buying unlock key, just want to make sure it's unlock-able before buying it...
http://www.cellunlocker.net/
and, after it's unlock, I just have to unlock also BootLoader from htcdev.com and it's voila!?
Thank you.
See if Bump helps!
NiGHTsC said:
I have no problem buying unlock key, just want to make sure it's unlock-able before buying it...
http://www.cellunlocker.net/
and, after it's unlock, I just have to unlock also BootLoader from htcdev.com and it's voila!?
Thank you.
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This is the endeavour One x (quad-core) i believe you are looking for the AT&T one x forum which is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1548
As previous guy said you want the other forum for the at&t one x.
Sim unlock and bootloader unlock are completely different things.
Sim unlock will allow you to put a Sim card of a different carrier in.
Bootloader unlock will allow you to install custom ROMs.
If you just want to use a different carrier sim then there is no need to unlock your bootloader through htcdev
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Oh my bad lol...
Yah, I'm talking both unlocks, so I can use custom rom
Thanx guys, I'll ask again there~~
hi,
i have htc one m8(european version) for almost two weeks and i am very satisfied of him.
i want to root the phone and i know all the procedure to do this.
my question is, if i open the bootloader through the "htcdev" site, there is any chance that my carrier will know that i have open the bootloader and after that will cancel my warranty?
because, i read guides on the XDA how to unroot the su and how to flash the stock recovery but i am afraid that it is not enough to keep my warranty be maintained.
thanks
meido132 said:
hi,
i have htc one m8(european version) for almost two weeks and i am very satisfied of him.
i want to root the phone and i know all the procedure to do this.
my question is, if i open the bootloader through the "htcdev" site, there is any chance that my carrier will know that i have open the bootloader and after that will cancel my warranty?
because, i read guides on the XDA how to unroot the su and how to flash the stock recovery but i am afraid that it is not enough to keep my warranty be maintained.
thanks
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your bootloader will show that you unlocked your phone. However as long as there is no issue with cpu etc meaning hardware that could have been damaged by overclocking etc there should be no issue at all.
you don´t loose your warranty in any case, only certain repair things might not be accepted.
jonas2295 said:
your bootloader will show that you unlocked your phone. However as long as there is no issue with cpu etc meaning hardware that could have been damaged by overclocking etc there should be no issue at all.
you don´t loose your warranty in any case, only certain repair things might not be accepted.
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thankes for the answer.
so as long as there is no problem with hardware and the phone itself,the warranty mantain.
but they can actually see that the bootloader is open in the phone or they dont care of it?
there is a guide how to lock the bootloader?
meido132 said:
thankes for the answer.
so as long as there is no problem with hardware and the phone itself,the warranty mantain.
but they can actually see that the bootloader is open in the phone or they dont care of it?
there is a guide how to lock the bootloader?
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If you just do the fastboot OEM lock command then it'll say relocked. However, if you're s-off there's a guide by scott1223 that let's you go back to locked instead of relocked. This way they won't be able to tell of you actually unlocked it or not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708571
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otariq said:
If you just do the fastboot OEM lock command then it'll say relocked. However, if you're s-off there's a guide by scott1223 that let's you go back to locked instead of relocked. This way they won't be able to tell of you actually unlocked it or not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708571
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i understand.
after i do the lock bootloader with this guide, i will able to s-on the HTC an unroot without the bootloader?
my version of the stock recovery is 1.54.401.5.
what is useful most: the twrp OR cwm?(i saw that twrp will not work with the guide)
I'm getting my T-MO G3 returned soon and would like to unlock the bootloader asap but I'm not exactly sure how. Is it just FASTBOOT OEM UNLOCK or is there something else?
Boot loader is not locked
3UR0TR45H said:
I'm getting my T-MO G3 returned soon and would like to unlock the bootloader asap but I'm not exactly sure how. Is it just FASTBOOT OEM UNLOCK or is there something else?
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whats the need for urgency ? there isnt a recovery even released yet.
wavrunrx said:
whats the need for urgency ? there isnt a recovery even released yet.
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Whenever I've unlocked a bootloader, it wipes the device. I'd rather do that before I set it up with my apps and accounts.
BACARDILIMON said:
Boot loader is not locked
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Correct me if I am wrong but every phone comes with a locked bootloader even the nexus line you need to unlock. We really need to stop calling encrypted bootloaders locked. So this phone isn't encrypted but surely it is locked.
Our G3 is the only one that's unlocked.
rumor has it tmobile g3 isn't locked
mgbotoe said:
rumor has it tmobile g3 isn't locked
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I'm confused I have an note 3 verizon. I am trading in my note 3 becaues of lock down bootloaders. will the G3 be easier to unlock? I have been reading that T moblie is the only one that comes unlocked.... Hmmm need some help befoere I jump Thanks
Guys. There is a difference between unlocked and unlockable. This being unlocked means there's nothing really to do. That's why it's so unusual.
mgbotoe said:
rumor has it tmobile g3 isn't locked
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I believe It's unlocked. Rooted with twrp
Unlocked, just rooted and installed twrp, nothing else to do about it.
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/root-twrp-root-twrp-tmo-lg-g3-t2821005
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I've got my eyes on a unlocked Verizon pixel 3 XL that's unlocked. How deep is Verizon's software in the pixel and would it even be possible to fully convert it to a regular Google pixel?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/help/verizon-pixel-3xl-vs-google-pixel-3xl-t3863130
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mac208x said:
I've got my eyes on a unlocked Verizon pixel 3 XL that's unlocked. How deep is Verizon's software in the pixel and would it even be possible to fully convert it to a regular Google pixel?
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If the bootloader is unlocked I don't see any reason you can't use the non verizon firmware on it. The devices themselves are identical, just the firmware is different. Note that I have not done this so you're at your own risk.
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jd1639 said:
If the bootloader is unlocked I don't see any reason you can't use the non verizon firmware on it. The devices themselves are identical, just the firmware is different. Note that I have not done this so you're at your own risk.
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As far as I know it's sim unlocked. If that's unlocked, bootloader should be unlockable as well right? Or how does the process go on the pixel?
On 6T it's you get a sim unlock, then you send a request application, once approved they send you a .bin to unlock the bootloader thru fastboot
mac208x said:
As far as I know it's sim unlocked. If that's unlocked, bootloader should be unlockable as well right? Or how does the process go on the pixel?
On 6T it's you get a sim unlock, then you send a request application, once approved they send you a .bin to unlock the bootloader thru fastboot
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No, sim and bootloader are two different things. You'd need the bootloader unlocked to flash the regular Google pixel firmware. Sim unlock just allows you to use the phone on different carriers.
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spotmark said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/help/verizon-pixel-3xl-vs-google-pixel-3xl-t3863130
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There was absolutely nothing helpful In that thread, just speculations.
jd1639 said:
No, sim and bootloader are two different things. You'd need the bootloader unlocked to flash the regular Google pixel firmware. Sim unlock just allows you to use the phone on different carriers.
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I understand the difference so In another words the bootloader is not unlockable on the Verizon one and there is no process for once it's sim unlocked like it is on the Oneplus 6T (where sim unlock is required in order to unlock bootloader)
mac208x said:
I understand the difference so In another words the bootloader is not unlockable on the Verizon one and there is no process for once it's sim unlocked like it is on the Oneplus 6T (where sim unlock is required in order to unlock bootloader)
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No you will not be able to unlock the bootloader on the Verizon variant weather it is sim unlocked or not. However you can uninstall all the pre loaded Verizon apps. I had the Verizon model and was able to uninstall all the bloat. The only difference is the bootloader and being able to root.
Misterxtc said:
No you will not be able to unlock the bootloader on the Verizon variant weather it is sim unlocked or not. However you can uninstall all the pre loaded Verizon apps. I had the Verizon model and was able to uninstall all the bloat. The only difference is the bootloader and being able to root.
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Oh balls. So the only way it's to crack it? That's peachy
mac208x said:
There was absolutely nothing helpful In that thread, just speculations.
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The very first post in that thread says the VZW bootloader can't be unlocked.
mac208x said:
Oh balls. So the only way it's to crack it? That's peachy
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Correct, you might want to check this thread out. It is being looked in to but doesn't look all that promising.
Misterxtc said:
Correct, you might want to check this thread out. It is being looked in to but doesn't look all that promising.
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I've read thru it, I mean someone will crack it sooner or later. Some fine folks brainstorming it. Wish it was as simple as on the one plus, you just wait 7 days and you're unlocked.
Is there a difference in model number or something on the box itself?
mac208x said:
Is there a difference in model number or something on the box itself?
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If you want an unlockable bootloader steer clear of verizon plain and simple. No way around it
c_86 said:
If you want an unlockable bootloader steer clear of verizon plain and simple. No way around it
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I know, was trying to make sure the one I was getting on eBay was infact a Google one. Apparently there's a major difference in the label. Same model number etc. However there's a lot more writing on it. Mention of imported by Google Canada which isn't present on the Verizon one.