hi,
i have htc one m8(european version) for almost two weeks and i am very satisfied of him.
i want to root the phone and i know all the procedure to do this.
my question is, if i open the bootloader through the "htcdev" site, there is any chance that my carrier will know that i have open the bootloader and after that will cancel my warranty?
because, i read guides on the XDA how to unroot the su and how to flash the stock recovery but i am afraid that it is not enough to keep my warranty be maintained.
thanks
meido132 said:
hi,
i have htc one m8(european version) for almost two weeks and i am very satisfied of him.
i want to root the phone and i know all the procedure to do this.
my question is, if i open the bootloader through the "htcdev" site, there is any chance that my carrier will know that i have open the bootloader and after that will cancel my warranty?
because, i read guides on the XDA how to unroot the su and how to flash the stock recovery but i am afraid that it is not enough to keep my warranty be maintained.
thanks
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your bootloader will show that you unlocked your phone. However as long as there is no issue with cpu etc meaning hardware that could have been damaged by overclocking etc there should be no issue at all.
you don´t loose your warranty in any case, only certain repair things might not be accepted.
jonas2295 said:
your bootloader will show that you unlocked your phone. However as long as there is no issue with cpu etc meaning hardware that could have been damaged by overclocking etc there should be no issue at all.
you don´t loose your warranty in any case, only certain repair things might not be accepted.
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thankes for the answer.
so as long as there is no problem with hardware and the phone itself,the warranty mantain.
but they can actually see that the bootloader is open in the phone or they dont care of it?
there is a guide how to lock the bootloader?
meido132 said:
thankes for the answer.
so as long as there is no problem with hardware and the phone itself,the warranty mantain.
but they can actually see that the bootloader is open in the phone or they dont care of it?
there is a guide how to lock the bootloader?
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If you just do the fastboot OEM lock command then it'll say relocked. However, if you're s-off there's a guide by scott1223 that let's you go back to locked instead of relocked. This way they won't be able to tell of you actually unlocked it or not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708571
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otariq said:
If you just do the fastboot OEM lock command then it'll say relocked. However, if you're s-off there's a guide by scott1223 that let's you go back to locked instead of relocked. This way they won't be able to tell of you actually unlocked it or not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708571
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i understand.
after i do the lock bootloader with this guide, i will able to s-on the HTC an unroot without the bootloader?
my version of the stock recovery is 1.54.401.5.
what is useful most: the twrp OR cwm?(i saw that twrp will not work with the guide)
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I've just bought my Galaxy Nexus for two days to replace my dead Nexus One.
The UI of ICS is so great but I miss the function from DEVs, like vibrate when the call made.
I have rooted my Nexus One without unlocking the bootloader and I would love to root my Galaxy Nexus without unlocking too.
Is there any DEV going to work on this?
I don't believe anybody is working on this since BL unlock is so simple, and there aren't really any disadvantages (that I know of). In order for root to occur without BL unlock, there would have to be an exploit found in the stock image. Is there a particular reason you don't want to unlock it? You have only had the phone two days, so I imagine your data loss won't be that big of an issue.
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I don't believe anybody is working on this since BL unlock is so simple, and there aren't really any disadvantages (that I know of). In order for root to occur without BL unlock, there would have to be an exploit found in the stock image. Is there a particular reason you don't want to unlock it? You have only had the phone two days, so I imagine your data loss won't be that big of an issue.
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unlocking BL void the warranty
Booker-T said:
unlocking BL void the warranty
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And rooting doesn't? After all, it does allow for modification/deletion of system files. In any case, you can re-lock it just as easily.
Booker-T said:
unlocking BL void the warranty
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Accidentally thanked you haha - missed the quote button.
You can lock it if you have to send it in or return it, you know. The lock command is just as simple as the unlock!
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And rooting doesn't? After all, it does allow for modification/deletion of system files. In any case, you can re-lock it just as easily.
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Rooting doesn't make the splash screen change (the lock under "Google"), so it can be easily unroot by deleting related files in the system and make it look like stock.
Are you sure a unlocked devices can lock again? Nexus One can't do this.
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Rooting doesn't make the splash screen change (the lock under "Google"), so it can be easily unroot by deleting related files in the system and make it look like stock.
Are you sure a unlocked devices can lock again? Nexus One can't do this.
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Yes, "fastboot oem lock" will re-lock the bootloader and make the padlock go away. Here is the write-up by droid-life (I can't view it at work, so I hope it has the right info!)
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/1...the-bootloader-and-return-to-a-factory-state/
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Yes, "fastboot oem lock" will re-lock the bootloader and make the padlock go away. Here is the write-up by droid-life (I can't view it at work, so I hope it has the right info!)
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/1...the-bootloader-and-return-to-a-factory-state/
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Mine one is the GSM one, I have searched on Googles, there is no GSM version re-lock tutorial there, so I doubt GSM version cannot re-lock.
And I don't have the stock image.
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Mine one is the GSM one, I have searched on Googles, there is no GSM version re-lock tutorial there, so I doubt GSM version cannot re-lock.
And I don't have the stock image.
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I thought the GSM factory image was pretty widely available?
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/4/2610060/google-galaxy-nexus-factory-image-restore-phone
I am fairly certain people with the GSM variant have re-locked their phones, but I would check the Nexus android development section (GSM) for proof.
I've tested relocking and can confirm it works fine
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I feel like this is a myth. You're not using an exploit, or anything like that, you're using a manufacturer provided tool to unlock the bootloader. Taken from android.com:
On Nexus One, Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Xoom, and Galaxy Nexus, the bootloader is locked by default. With the device in fastboot mode, the bootloader is unlocked with
$ fastboot oem unlock
The procedure must be confirmed on-screen, and deletes the user data for privacy reasons. It only needs to be run once.
On Nexus One, the operation voids the warranty and is irreversible.
On Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Xoom, and Galaxy Nexus, the bootloader can be locked back with
$ fastboot oem lock
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I would love a way to root without unlocking the bootloader -- coming from the Nexus One, which I easily rooted without ever touching the bootloader -- it didn't occur to me that rooting would require unlocking the bootloader. Of course, I wish now that I'd unlocked the bootloader right when I took the phone out of the box, which is, I see now, what everyone recommends. But I've more data on the phone than I want to deal with losing right now.
So if anyone following this thread turns up a way to root without unlocking the bootloader, please let us know!
You won't see this feature arrive until manufacturers start selling ICS phones with locked bootloaders (I'm looking at you HTC, LG, etc). Devs will then try to punch a hole through the OS instead of using simple fastboot commands, as the bootloader will be locked down.
I don't understand why you would wait though, just fastboot oem unlock, root, then fastboot oem lock. The only way your warranty is going to be voided is if you have a rooted rom, that padlock means nothing on the Galaxy Nexus. IF THEY SEE SUPERUSER, THEY KNOW YOU ROOTED. They don't give a **** about the splash screen
Hello there,
since 4.0.4 wasn't coming to my phone, I've flashed the stock image from google on my GNexus. I was wondering if, having unlocked and re-locked the bootloader, my warranty is void, or if it is back on.
Thanks in advance
Doesn't rooting already void ur warranty?
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As long as you put stock from and relock bootloader, no one can tell you've done anything to your phone or voided your warranty.
Just like an iPhone jailbreaking voids your warranty until you restore it back to official firmware.
Galaxy Nexus GSM
You can always return to stock and lock the bootloader. No one will be able to tell you've done anything to the phone at that point.
I send my SGN in for repair after reflashing the stock image and relocking the bootloader. And there were no complaints that my warranty is void. So I asume there is no flash counter like on the SGS2.
Alright! Great to hear
Thanks a lot for all the replies =)
Oh, that's great to hear!
I have a similar question...If you were to be lazy and not relock the bootloader, would the people at a local VZW really know? I mean, in the past, I have seen people take rooted and Rom'd HTC phones to sprint and easily gotten replacements.
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I have a similar question...If you were to be lazy and not relock the bootloader, would the people at a local VZW really know? I mean, in the past, I have seen people take rooted and Rom'd HTC phones to sprint and easily gotten replacements.
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They probably wouldn't know... but how the hell lazy are you? Connect the phone to a PC and type "fastboot oem lock" into the command window. There's absolutely no reason not to lock the bootloader before sending it back in.
juntistik said:
I have a similar question...If you were to be lazy and not relock the bootloader, would the people at a local VZW really know? I mean, in the past, I have seen people take rooted and Rom'd HTC phones to sprint and easily gotten replacements.
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if they have 1/2 a brain, yes they can tell the bootloader is unlocked... since there's a picture of a unlocked lock.
As I wrote before I send my phone in for repair and relocked it before. Today I got my phone back and when I turned it on it was unlocked. I think they don't care about unlocked bootloaders as long as the issue is not caused by onlocking the bootloader.
They should be able to tell whether ur bootloader is locked. It changes one of the codes. For my w8 it changes Rxxxxxx (locked) to rxxxxxx( unlocked) so as long as they check ur warranty is as good as dead
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blazerphoenix said:
They should be able to tell whether ur bootloader is locked. It changes one of the codes. For my w8 it changes Rxxxxxx (locked) to rxxxxxx( unlocked) so as long as they check ur warranty is as good as dead
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hello...?
we can relock the bootloader.. after being relocked, it's locked, like it came from the factory.. "i never did anything to the phone, custom stuff, what are you talking about?"
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Yeah but its quite risky I'll rather pay the 30+ dollars
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blazerphoenix said:
Yeah but its quite risky I'll rather pay the 30+ dollars
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No, it isn't.
Once relocked, its locked.
Simple as.
Nexus ftw.
unlocking and relocking the bootloader is extremely easy guys....
I had an issue with my stock recovery ....so I had to unlock by bootloader ..then flash the stock recovery image ...and then relock my bootloader.... all this took under 10 mins...
and yes once you relock..its relocked...
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afma_afma said:
unlocking and relocking the bootloader is extremely easy guys....
I had an issue with my stock recovery ....so I had to unlock by bootloader ..then flash the stock recovery image ...and then relock my bootloader.... all this took under 10 mins...
and yes once you relock..its relocked...
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Why bother even relocking it, if you need to unlock it again you'll have to wipe your internal storage.
nodstuff said:
Why bother even relocking it, if you need to unlock it again you'll have to wipe your internal storage.
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Security reasons.
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Hi guys, i have a question, i want to return my phone for warranty and i've read this thread that if your bootloader is showing 'relocked' you cannot return the device for warranty.
I am here to ask if there is a way to make the bootloader show 'locked' bootloader instead of 'relocked'?
it would be GREATLY appreciated if you could help me. thanks!
for those who want to relock their bootloader can follow the instructions here
There is no way to do that ATM.
If the problem is the hardware issue, HTC should honor the warranty.
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There is no way to do that ATM.
If the problem is the hardware issue, HTC should honor the warranty.
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actually i'm looking to sell the phone, the phone have no issues whatsoever, but if the person i sell to wants to claim warranty, it may be an issue.
Not possible. When you got your unlock bin from HTC, it logged the device info. There gonna know right away it was tampered with.
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Not possible. When you got your unlock bin from HTC, it logged the device info. There gonna know right away it was tampered with.
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so that means there is no option to claim warranty unless i pay for the 'fines' or charges that incur to repair my device?
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so that means there is no option to claim warranty unless i pay for the 'fines' or charges that incur to repair my device?
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Correct. From what I've read, unlocking voids the warranty instantly (even tho htcdev says it "could" void your warranty) So any repairs are gonna cost you.
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I saw this
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OK.. while trying to re-flash my phone after messing up, I tried to re-lock (fastboot oem lock) and it put up 3 messages, 1 succeed, 2 failed, on reboot of phone it read locked.
Yes!! Locked not re-locked ! I forgot I had not flashed stock recovery ! So triued to unlock, it worked but I could not flash stock recovery, failed, but I could re-lock with same LOCKED message, if I then went from HBoot to Fastboot I got a new menu SECURITY .. bellow locked a message SECURITY WARNING, if I select SECURITY menu then I get a new screen , KEYCARD failed, and reboots.
Anyway the LOCKED was enough to get the phone swapped as its two weeks old, any way after charging and attempting RUU again it locked on black HTC screen most times it booted.
Still maybe this menu holds a key to S-OFF, and maybe the relock failing can be replicated, it seems to have sent only 1 of 3 parts if the file across, so if you phone is bricked maybe you can give it a shot for htc service cover by part re-locking in some way.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7526938/IMAG0439.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7526938/IMAG0384.jpg
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and was hoping we could make some headway on it.
I noticed you are on Vodafone Australia.
I spoke to multiple stores and service reps and each of them said the same thing, that merely unlocking the bootloader will not void your warranty with them assuming a hardware fault. They even allowing discussion of bootloader unlocking in their community forum.
They did say however that flashing custom roms and rooting will void your warranty as per usual and any damage caused as a result of overclocking or messing with voltages etc is not covered.
I don't know if that is any help, but they seem pretty good about it so long as you didnt cause any actual damage yourself
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I noticed you are on Vodafone Australia.
I spoke to multiple stores and service reps and each of them said the same thing, that merely unlocking the bootloader will not void your warranty with them assuming a hardware fault. They even allowing discussion of bootloader unlocking in their community forum.
They did say however that flashing custom roms and rooting will void your warranty as per usual and any damage caused as a result of overclocking or messing with voltages etc is not covered.
I don't know if that is any help, but they seem pretty good about it so long as you didnt cause any actual damage yourself
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Unfortunately I bought it outright from All phones. Don't think they'll accept it. but never mind anymore, I sold my HTC one x. I put up a *phone has boot loader unlocked* note on the ad
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Is there any method that can lock my WFS's bootloader so that when its locked, I'd be able to gain warranty back ? I have a hardware issue going on with the phone and hence want to do so.... If there is any successful method please direct me to it, cos I was not able to find it with quick search on xda, so thought of asking.
There are bootloader related softs by genius people like simonsimon34 etc, but using these, the bootloader says RELOCKED, that shows that the warranty is void from HTC but if there's any method that can make the bootloader say LOCKED like earlier then I'd be able to claim warranty and would be able to get my phone repaired....
Any help would be appreciated....
Thanks loads in advance....
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Is there any method that can lock my WFS's bootloader so that when its locked, I'd be able to gain warranty back ? I have a hardware issue going on with the phone and hence want to do so.... If there is any successful method please direct me to it, cos I was not able to find it with quick search on xda, so thought of asking.
There are bootloader related softs by genius people like simonsimon34 etc, but using these, the bootloader says RELOCKED, that shows that the warranty is void from HTC but if there's any method that can make the bootloader say LOCKED like earlier then I'd be able to claim warranty and would be able to get my phone repaired....
Any help would be appreciated....
Thanks loads in advance....
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yes it is..!
press thanks.!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1530864
Hello, i have a HTC One M9 and I want unlock bootloader without htcdev with sunshine app. But if I use sunshine app i need root my phone and unlock my bootloader with htcdev. But it void the warranty. So how to root my phone without unlocking bootloader?
This is a vicious circle! :crying:
czifraj2 said:
Hello, i have a HTC One M9 and I want unlock bootloader without htcdev with sunshine app. But if I use sunshine app i need root my phone and unlock my bootloader with htcdev. But it void the warranty. So how to root my phone without unlocking bootloader?
This is a vicious circle! :crying:
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their are ways to return the phone to it's out of box factory state, so it looks like it was never rooted
HTCdev.com do not log your usage and deny you repair for requesting an unlock. Their is no proof you ever used it.
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their are ways to return the phone to it's out of box factory state, so it looks like it was never rooted
HTCdev.com do not log your usage and deny you repair for requesting an unlock. Their is no proof you ever used it.
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HTC does track that. If you unlocked the bootloader, they know about it.
All they know is you asked for a unlock code. They have no way to prove that you used it.
If you return the phone to it's original state. Theirs nothing they can do.
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HTC does track that. If you unlocked the bootloader, they know about it.
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I don't know if it's as cut & dried as that. Like clsA said, they don't know whether or not you used the unlock token.
HTC's FAQ references the warranty implications and the warranty issue is also referenced in their explanation about unlock vs S-ON/OFF.
From my reading of their explanations, unlocking does not automatically mean warranty claims will be rejected. It simply adds an additional element to the process of determining whether or not the issue is HTC's responsibility or the user's.
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I don't know if it's as cut & dried as that. Like clsA said, they don't know whether or not you used the unlock token.
HTC's FAQ references the warranty implications and the warranty issue is also referenced in their explanation about unlock vs S-ON/OFF.
From my reading of their explanations, unlocking does not automatically mean warranty claims will be rejected. It simply adds an additional element to the process of determining whether or not the issue is HTC's responsibility or the user's.
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True. But they told me that I would need to send it in if I had any issues, then they would determine if I caused it by unlocking the bootloader or not. (like you said).
I've never made a warranty claim with HTC before, but my guess is that while they'd need the phone to be sent in, they would be looking for physical proof that its bootloader was unlocked. I suppose they might ask you directly if they look at the HTCdev request record, but more likely they'd just check the phone itself.
I'm afraid you probably can't avoid unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev - modders aren't going to spend time on a new method when HTC is being so accommodating. On the flip side, their friendly stance towards modders indicates that they aren't necessarily looking to give them a bum rap.
aooga said:
True. But they told me that I would need to send it in if I had any issues, then they would determine if I caused it by unlocking the bootloader or not. (like you said).
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So basically you trust what HTC told you instead of what you learned here on XDA ?
Maybe HTC will tell you how to S-Off and reset your phone to Stock also
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So basically you trust what HTC told you instead of what you learned here on XDA ?
Maybe HTC will tell you how to S-Off and reset your phone to Stock also
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Uh, yes? lol. I would trust what they said (and my experience) over XDA. Even if I reset all the flags, in their system, it showed my phone as being unlocked. I chatted with about 3 people and they all said the same thing.
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Uh, yes? lol. I would trust what they said (and my experience) over XDA. Even if I reset all the flags, in their system, it showed my phone as being unlocked. I chatted with about 3 people and they all said the same thing.
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Maybe @nkk71 or @alray can explain it to you better
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Uh, yes? lol. I would trust what they said (and my experience) over XDA. Even if I reset all the flags, in their system, it showed my phone as being unlocked. I chatted with about 3 people and they all said the same thing.
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Maybe @nkk71 or @alray can explain it to you better
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i bought a pack of condoms two days ago (actually it was a carton) at the pharmacy not online .... so i have 240 condoms available, and i've used them all up
basically, what i'm saying, it just i bought a pack of condoms.... can you prove i used them
**theoretically** HTCSync Manager, and the CheckinProvidor apk could in **theory** could dial home" and report it, .... still whether true or not, htcdev unlock, is not only as vague as vague can be, but it does say "it may void warranty"... it does not say it voids it defacto (especially if it's a hardware problem)
anyway, TL;DR what this was about anyway.... but if i can that many boxes at the pharmacy, it must be true
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i bought a pack of condoms two days ago (actually it was a carton) at the pharmacy not online .... so i have 240 condoms available, and i've used them all up
basically, what i'm saying, it just i bought a pack of condoms.... can you prove i used them
**theoretically** HTCSync Manager, and the CheckinProvidor apk could in **theory** could dial home" and report it, .... still whether true or not, htcdev unlock, is not only as vague as vague can be, but it does say "it may void warranty"... it does not say it voids it defacto (especially if it's a hardware problem)
anyway, TL;DR what this was about anyway.... but if i can that many boxes at the pharmacy, it must be true
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Yeah, I get both of your points. I would think the same exact thing too. Especially if I have a custom rom, there theoretically should be no way for them to prove that I USED the token, just that I got the token.
Based on my experience with HTC support (HORRIBLE), I wouldn't be surprised if they just charge you if you got the key.
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Yeah, I get both of your points. I would think the same exact thing too. Especially if I have a custom rom, there theoretically should be no way for them to prove that I USED the token, just that I got the token.
Based on my experience with HTC support (HORRIBLE), I wouldn't be surprised if they just charge you if you got the key.
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I can speak from personal experience that HTC will not deny service simply because you unlocked. I s-off'd and modded my M7 to hell and back, and they still fixed the pink camera defect for free.
From what I have heard from over the years, HTC may have some undisclosed methods of knowing when the bootloader has been unlocked, even when the phone has been restored to bone stock. Whether this is true, I cannot say, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. HTC's historic friendliness toward modding may well be in part because they know they can tell when you've screwed things up on your own.
So if i ask the token from htcdev and i don't use, void the warranty? But i don't use.
But if i use the token and unlock my bootloader and i buy a s-off and set back the flag: Locked , void the warranty?