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Hi all,
I currently have a Fascinate on Verizon and am sick of the issues it is having. It seems a large number of them have memory issues and it's constantly restarting and bootlooping at an empty battery screen. Long story short, I want to buy a used Play. Mainly for two reasons. One, I want a working phone, and two, I love playing emulators but hate on-screen controls.
How are you folks liking the Play currently? How are the ICS ROMs running? How is emulator performance (PS1 specifically) on ICS ROMs? Does the gamepad work on ICS ROMs?
Thanks for your help; I really don't want to switch phones for something worse :/
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It's an android phone with a gamepad that makes gaming easier, what more do you want
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Growling Clover said:
Best phone ever! Fact!
It's an android phone with a gamepad that makes gaming easier, what more do you want
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An unlockable boot loader that I don't have to pay 25 bucks for :banghead:
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The battery is one complaint.
Another is the wobblyness when the phone is closed.
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An unlockable boot loader that I don't have to pay 25 bucks for :banghead:
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Buy one that is already fully unlocked or one that can be unlocked easily like the r800i
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Buy one that is already fully unlocked or one that can be unlocked easily like the r800i
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I would but I need it as a phone first and foremost and I'm on Verizon. So the r800x is my only choice.
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The battery is one complaint.
Another is the wobblyness when the phone is closed.
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How long do u get with the bttery with standard use and while hard gaming?
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I got my Xperia Play for 169euro in Vodafone IE, so i think it was the best value android phone ever! But i was worried becouse how come Vodafone reduced 500 euro price to 169, i thought it must be crappy phone! But after bootloader unlock and flashing .58 firmware + TrueAncestor Rom from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1546134&highlight=true i think this phone is great! Works fast and smoth, battery for me is long enough too, around 3 days for some wifi use, text and calls. Im not playing so much but i used keypad on GTAIII or Shadowgun and it was good fun! I hate using touchscreen if I played some game ever More likely i flashed few Custom Roms but the best working ICS ROM for me is AokPlay! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582118. So many options!!!!!! and theme manager and many many more! good luck!
I wouldn't because in terms of performance, it's not an upgrade from your old phone, just install cm9 or something and keep using your phone till your contracts up :O
I don´t know If I would buy it again, it´s the best phone ever, BUT, it´s the WORST built quality I´ve ever seem, and I´m serious, it´s the cheapest plastic on a mobile I´ve ever, after 1 week only some cracks appears on the plastic, it hapenned twice, when I first bought it, and after I sent it back and received a new one, they both had the same problem...
Really a shame, it´s the perfect smartphone, with the worst material, don´t know why Sony did that...
I have dropped mine a couple of times but there are no cracks at all...
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I wouldn't because in terms of performance, it's not an upgrade from your old phone, just install cm9 or something and keep using your phone till your contracts up :O
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I'm not looking for an "upgrade" to my old phone. My old phone doesn't work properly as I said in my OP. I already had ICS on it too. I'm looking for something to hold me over till December till my upgrade is due, and I love emulators but hate onscreen controls.
I just ordered one today so it should be here Tuesday/Wednesday. Thanks for all the input guys
Hello,
I was using my phone when he just crashed, after that my notification led doesn't work at all (charge, flashmode or fastboot), the backlight doesn't work at all too, the phone is laggy, sometime he vibes, shutdown & in the top it indicate that battery is 0% ?!
I tried much things but it still doesn't work...
If someone could help it'll be really nice.
Thanks
do you use custom rom and kernel?
if you do, just re-flash the kernel and re-install the rom, don't forget to do full wipe
and if you use original firmware (you never done anything to your phone), you can fix it using sony update service which you can find it here
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/tools/update-service/
do what it says you to do
hope it'll help
But, I allready did all that you said, but it still the same. I think it's an hardware issue of the motherboard but how to repair that ?
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But, I allready did all that you said, but it still the same. I think it's an hardware issue of the motherboard but how to repair that ?
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At this point probably better to buy a replacement. I can get a used in nice condition AT&T xperia play for about $140 on eBay.
Even after you FTF it still has the issue?
Looks like system uid inconsistent error.
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So mine isn't the only one that vibrates if you stress it out too much? Hm.
And yeah, I would restore it to stock, then remove all bloatware. If it's a hardware issue, go buy a Galaxy Nexus.
/\ Traitor
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If my phone was broke, I'd go with a Galaxy Nexus in a heartbeat. Sure, we have buttons, but honestly, I just don't see the support from that many people. If this was as popular as the Xoom, GNexus, or Razr, all of our bootloaders would be unlocked. But they just don't wanna put in the time and effort.
Only "I" in love with Xperia Z ? The design of the phone was killed me. (the phone is full glass black)
Specs is also very good. And most important it got support for AOSP.
Any way Im alone who getting jump to it? I'm just not familiar with Sony.
They are accidentally not like LG with OTA updates?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWysHOjl95E&feature=share&list=PL7CrlqRu8QgSYhFQzMmQ44E8R0BT3zVgp
PS: If you know something about sony (bad/good sides) share with me
Uh completely wrong forum?
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Uh completely wrong forum?
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I wanna ask my people. Exactly here.
I don't want to post in Sony thread's where only certain fanatics of sony will say it's better than samsung.
I wana buy it too....but wana have a look at galaxy s4 too
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jayOverkill said:
I wana buy it too....but wana have a look at galaxy s4 too
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But Sams S4 will come much later after Sony Z. I will deffenetly sell "Z" in that time.
I also don't like interface of sony (it's not stock AOSP), but I remember we got Cyanogen support there.
Im thinking of buying it as a secondary phone to use when I dont want to bring my note around lol.
It will probably replace my hox as my soare phone
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kylec said:
Im thinking of buying it as a secondary phone to use when I dont want to bring my note around lol.
It will probably replace my hox as my soare phone
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Check this design buddy...looks sick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa86s-tGHO4
I have been using Sony Xperia S before my Note 2. ıt was pretty good. I can recommend.
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I have been using Sony Xperia S before my Note 2. ıt was pretty good. I can recommend.
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Thank you akdenizx !
How is build quality ?
I had the Xperia T for a week and returned it. Unbelievable dust magnet. Every piece of dirt and lint and fluff would gravitate towards it.
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I had the Xperia T for a week and returned it. Unbelievable dust magnet. Every piece of dirt and lint and fluff would gravitate towards it.
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That's interesting. \:laugh:
Sony's build quality is actually better than samsung's I think. A lot more solid, have had the xperia s.
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desirer said:
Sony's build quality is actually better than samsung's I think. A lot more solid, have had the xperia s.
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Their build quality is amazing compared to Sammys and much more durable and resiatant to water and shocks but I think they tend to lag behind in terms of performance compared to Sammy,HTC and LG...
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avetny said:
That's interesting. \:laugh:
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Xperia z says water and dust proof xP
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It will be faster than our note 2 cause it has snapdragon s4.. but without spen..lol
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Only "I" in love with Xperia Z ? The design of the phone was killed me. (the phone is full glass black)
Specs is also very good. And most important it got support for AOSP.
Any way Im alone who getting jump to it? I'm just not familiar with Sony.
They are accidentally not like LG with OTA updates?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWysHOjl95E&feature=share&list=PL7CrlqRu8QgSYhFQzMmQ44E8R0BT3zVgp
PS: If you know something about sony (bad/good sides) share with me
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My previous phone was a Xperia Arc S, bought in GB 2.3. Sony update it to ICS, but the first update was a failure: far less memory available, many games stop working. 3 update later, it's better, but finaly i ended to put a custom rom, better than Sony one.
This is one reason why i don't buy another Sony phone. One other reason is there is no many differents models, that it make comparison between models too complicated.
Sony bootloader are locked, you can unlocked them to put different kernel, but you loose the warranty. It's not a big problems, you can always root and put new roms.
The build quality is good, except the paint: I bought a pink one, and paint around the corner fade in few months, showing white plastic behind.
It's still a good phone, I kept it as a backup one, in case of my Note II broke or is stolen. I put the Sony phone in plane mode, and in this mode, battery goes from 100% to 10% in 30days.
I'm always using Sony PC companion for sync between my Outlook account and phone. Kies sync directly the phone, without update you Google account. PC companion update you google account only, and after that you can sync you phone or any device related to you account.
Guys thank you so much !
You all help me a lot ! Love xda.
As lots of you have seen, the lt28at is really cheap on Amazon and eBay (around $250 unlocked) and I'm thinking about buying one as a replacement for my aging HTC Desire.
What do those of you with one think? Is there another phone in that price range that's better? Are you happy with it? It seems the best phone in that price range.
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Im happy with my ion(got it on ebay), good screen, good perfotmance, decent camera. Got a few issues with it though: my camera lens got scratched to the point i couldnt take pics, so i had to do a fix( I used my N95 lens as replacement, works great now), no unlockable bootloader means fewer custom roms. Other than that id say its a good bargain.
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I'm happy with my ion .. everything work perfect
but there is a small issue with camera focus
Yahh. Ion is great. But I bought my phone for $600
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pharix said:
Yahh. Ion is great. But I bought my phone for $600
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Well,Sony Malaysia sell Xperia ion for RM1890 (divide it by 3 to get US price)
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before buying the ion, i really expect this to do much more and much better compare to my previous x10. However, i was so disappointed..
if you want a phone that takes good pictures (good clarity and color), don't take ion;
if you want a phone with good wifi, don't take ion;
if you don't want a phone to randomly shut down the apps you are using without noticing, don't take ion
all of the above essential points to me are not presented in x10, so i am very not happy about the ion
i recommend you just wait for ion's jelly bean review. its ics build is definitely one of the worst if not the worst comparing to samsung/htc/LG's except for the look
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before buying the ion, i really expect this to do much more and much better compare to my previous x10. However, i was so disappointed..
if you want a phone that takes good pictures (good clarity and color), don't take ion;
if you want a phone with good wifi, don't take ion;
if you don't want a phone to randomly shut down the apps you are using without noticing, don't take ion
all of the above essential points to me are not presented in x10, so i am very not happy about the ion
i recommend you just wait for ion's jelly bean review. its ics build is definitely one of the worst if not the worst comparing to samsung/htc/LG's except for the look
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Odd, my ion takes good pics(even in low light), and has no wifi issues. Only app that closes for no reason is browser when watching heavy sites.
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choosing ion
I got my Ion on on ebay for $200.00 it's locked to AT&T so i can't use any custom roms, but i am waiting for the JB update hopefully by end of March and or April. What i did do to make my Ion more snappy is of course root it, install CWM, V6 supercharger to decrease lag, use a deodex L28H rom. I do use my S3 as my primary phone for work, but i just love Sony's look when it comes to the phone design. The Ion is a good not great phone but you just need to "tweak" it a little with mods for now to make run a little better, XDA is a great place to check to do just that!
PS. waiting for the ZL that will be my next Sony Xperia!:good:
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Odd, my ion takes good pics(even in low light), and has no wifi issues. Only app that closes for no reason is browser when watching heavy sites.
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Yes I do agree with you
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UchihaDareNial said:
Well,Sony Malaysia sell Xperia ion for RM1890 (divide it by 3 to get US price)
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Yahh. Agree with that. But I bought my ion 2 months ago. Now the price is $250.
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I've been using an LT28at initially on AT&T then on T-Mobile for a total of 3 months. I previously used an X10 and a Nexus One.
In the U.S., the largest factor for me to have an SIM unlocked ION was its radio. AWS HSPA and LTE bands are covered. Granted LT28at's bootloader is locked and you can't try custom roms or custom kernels. But if you compare the ION with X10, Nexus One or HTC Desire, processing speed alone should feel a big improvement. Sure I love X10 (I still have one) and I personally think X10's push buttons are still better than ION's touch panel buttons. But ION is pretty good, and you won't be disappointed if you switch from HTC Desire.
It looks like I might get the lt28at. I know the bootloader is locked with little hope of that changing, but is it possible to load custom ROMs with the stock kernel?
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Parastie said:
It looks like I might get the lt28at. I know the bootloader is locked with little hope of that changing, but is it possible to load custom ROMs with the stock kernel?
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Yup, there are some roms that use stock kernel(xzxperience, miuiu, xtxperience), they work nicely on the ion(Im running xzxperience right now).
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Okay one last question. Is it possible to get into fastboot on the 28at version? I was reading the bootloader unlock thread and some people were saying that the 28at won't go to fast boot which keeps you from loading cwm. Is that true?
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Parastie said:
Okay one last question. Is it possible to get into fastboot on the 28at version? I was reading the bootloader unlock thread and some people were saying that the 28at won't go to fast boot which keeps you from loading cwm. Is that true?
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You can load cwm without any problems. I believe it is another mode( dont recall what its called right now) which the 28at cant go to which is necessary for bootloader unlocking( i tried). There is a guide o how to install cwm on the ion. You can also flash the generic 28h or i firmwares on the 28at without any issues.
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You can load cwm without any problems. I believe it is another mode( dont recall what its called right now) which the 28at cant go to which is necessary for bootloader unlocking( i tried). There is a guide o how to install cwm on the ion. You can also flash the generic 28h or i firmwares on the 28at without any issues.
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Awesome thanks!
Do you know what methods to get around the bootloader has been tried?
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Awesome thanks!
Do you know what methods to get around the bootloader has been tried?
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Not really. Guess well have to wait till sony and at&t allow the bootloader unlock. In any case jellybean is not too far away( even if at&t doesnt release the firmware we can flash h or i jellybean).
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Alright, so I was really unimpressed with the performance of the G3. Laggy and not very smooth. So, I decided to give ART a try and switched. Now everything runs super smoothly, like I would expect from a device I paid 600 € for. Can anyone confirm this?
Running stock ROM, not rooted.
düdldihüü said:
Alright, so I was really unimpressed with the performance of the G3. Laggy and not very smooth. So, I decided to give ART a try and switched. Now everything runs super smoothly, like I would expect from a device I paid 600 € for. Can anyone confirm this?
Running stock ROM, not rooted.
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That's what ART was designed for.
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Yeah, sure. However, I didn't get any improvements on the Nexus 4, so I wasn't really optimistic about it. Just wanted to share. I'll check improvements on battery life tomorrow.
I noticed it was a bit smoother . but I found rooting and freezing unused bloatware has made a better improvement however I am not on art at the mo so maybe it will improve even more if I changed it again. I expect this device to be on par with my previous htc one m8 if not better and I still think its just under on performance for the ui I hope it improves as I love everything about this phone its design is fantastic and that's come from a full metal m8
vimto25 said:
I noticed it was a bit smoother . but I found rooting and freezing unused bloatware has made a better improvement however I am not on art at the mo so maybe it will improve even more if I changed it again. I expect this device to be on par with my previous htc one m8 if not better and I still think its just under on performance for the ui I hope it improves as I love everything about this phone its design is fantastic and that's come from a full metal m8
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That's a weird "upgrade" the m8 is a fine device.
I'm a apple fan to I buy most flagship devices. Htc one m8 had speaker faults then had screen problems. I gave up with that so quickly but I would say it was mega quick tho to use and the CPU is clocked under the g3 cpu. So I wouldn't say a upgrade
vimto25 said:
I'm a apple fan to I buy most flagship devices. Htc one m8 had speaker faults then had screen problems. I gave up with that so quickly but I would say it was mega quick tho to use and the CPU is clocked under the g3 cpu. So I wouldn't say a upgrade
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The M8 uses the same CPU as the G3 both running at 2.5Ghz?
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Batfink33 said:
The M8 uses the same CPU as the G3 both running at 2.5Ghz?
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M8 is 2.3 and G3 is 2.5
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M8 is 2.3 and G3 is 2.5
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Are there different versions? Ive read some articles that say its 2.5ghz?
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Are there different versions? Ive read some articles that say its 2.5ghz?
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G3 had newer version MSM8975AC vs M8 MSM8974AC
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G3 had newer version MSM8975AC vs M8 MSM8974AC
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Ah, OK thanks.
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Any else confirm art is better? Preferably running for at least a week to test it
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That's a weird "upgrade" the m8 is a fine device.
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Some of us find the M8 a poor excuse for a flagship device. So many ****ty design choices, the foremost one being the useless speakers that just add device bulk and use up real estate without adding any useful functionality. The killer for me was the placement of the black band with the HTC logo. I was always pressing it expecting it to do something. At least they could have put it on top of the screen where it would not have interfered with the user experience as much.
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Some of us find the M8 a poor excuse for a flagship device. So many ****ty design choices, the foremost one being the useless speakers that just add device bulk and use up real estate without adding any useful functionality. The killer for me was the placement of the black band with the HTC logo. I was always pressing it expecting it to do something. At least they could have put it on top of the screen where it would not have interfered with the user experience as much.
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I thought the design could of been better it just felt to long. Good materials used I thought tho. But saying that I love the plastic on the g3 in my opinion it feels the best built flagship device at the moment. S5 is just awfull I personally think the banding around that is so dam cheap
düdldihüü said:
Alright, so I was really unimpressed with the performance of the G3. Laggy and not very smooth. So, I decided to give ART a try and switched. Now everything runs super smoothly, like I would expect from a device I paid 600 € for. Can anyone confirm this?
Running stock ROM, not rooted.
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Didn't you just in a sense confirm this.
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I applied ART last night and I concur with OP. It a heck lost smoother esp between transitions.
Previously there was an annoying nanosecond delay when switching apps or waiting for my SwiftKey to appear, now it's gone.
Also the response of an app opening is almost instant too.
Give it a try guys... I'm not looking back now
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semajm85 said:
I applied ART last night and I concur with OP. It a heck lost smoother esp between transitions.
Previously there was an annoying nanosecond delay when switching apps or waiting for my SwiftKey to appear, now it's gone.
Also the response of an app opening is almost instant too.
Give it a try guys... I'm not looking back now
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Any downsides? Apps crashing/being incompatible, etc.
Pheno.menon said:
Any downsides? Apps crashing/being incompatible, etc.
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Apart from losing the option to use Xposed, there aren't any downsides. Just remember that when you switch over, it can take 10-20 minutes for all the apps to load at boot. Make sure you have time to do this. You won't have to reset your phone but it will take a while before it's useable.
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Any downsides? Apps crashing/being incompatible, etc.
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The only thing I noticed is that the Amazon DE app isn't compatible with my device anymore. However, the perfomance increase is worth it big time.
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So far my apps haven't crashed. Regardless as some have mentioned, the performance increase is worth it.
As time goes also, apps will become more compatible with ART esp with Android L ard the corner
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