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[Q] Is it Xperia Arc worth a Free Upgrade?

So...
this is my current Situtation...
I've been under a Contract for +14 months now with my career; when i first got the contract i got an Xperia X10 Back on October 2010 but i got bored of it and around May this year i made a switch for Free with them for the SGS1 which i must say is a beautiful phone and I really love how the phone works even it's more than 16 months old since it came out.
Here in Guatemala we have not too many options in regards of High End Phones such as the SGS2 or HTC at all... But i have the option of a Free Upgrade for 1 Xperia Arc in early December.
I've got someone from here who is willing to buy my SGS1 for a really good price (around USD $500 - High End phones are kinda expensive here hehe) and i wanted to ask for your opinion if you guys think is it worth to upgrade to the Arc and sell the SGS1... I mean i have the option of selling any of them and keep the other...
Also have you heard if Eventually the Arc will get the so awaited ICS update?
What do you guys think?
Thanks!

I have to say Yes We have few developers stepping in for building ROM's

Here is a comparison, you decide:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3115&idPhone2=3619

rmk152 said:
Here is a comparison, you decide:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3115&idPhone2=3619
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Thanks! On the Paper both phones have similar specs with their pros and cos... But i wanted to hear the opinion from Users who already have the phone to let me know how is it like. I already have the SGS1 but wanted get more information about the Arc...
Any comment will be greatly appreciated.
JIM

I say get a gs2 or stick with gs1 Wayyy too good development
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I would upgrade to arc from SGS1 any day of the week... it's a really really great bit of kit... Love the camera, love the screen.. and it's not 100% confirmed for ICS but leaks have suggested that it will.

Sony have officially stated that all of their 2011 xperia models will be getting ICS. That includes the original arc as well as the arc S.
As far as the upgrading question goes, i would say the arc is definitely worth it. There are faster/more powerful phones out there, but nothing as well designed or with as good a camera.

Wow.I wouldn't buy a new galaxy S for 250$.sell it now
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SGS1 and ARC?
of course arc.
no more option. no more thinking. ARC

chitose_ndy said:
SGS1 and ARC?
of course arc.
no more option. no more thinking. ARC
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Arc s Super LCD beats Super amoled

You should go on line and get a HTCsensation or a gs2 for500
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You not bored of trolling round here yet?

if you ask me to choose between arc and sgs1 ?
ofcourse i would choose arc, duh
no contest, arc beats sgs1 in all category...

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You not bored of trolling round here yet?
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What kind of answer is that? And that has to do with upgrading a phone?
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Poker gypsy said:
And that has to do with upgrading a phone?
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Going on line and spending $500 has nothing to do with getting a free upgrade from your service provider. Especially since he said dual core phones werent available in the original post.

He can sell his phone for500 = free upgrade
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daveybaby said:
Going on line and spending $500 has nothing to do with getting a free upgrade from your service provider. Especially since he said dual core phones werent available in the original post.
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There is this place called eBay you go on line
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daveybaby said:
Going on line and spending $500 has nothing to do with getting a free upgrade from your service provider. Especially since he said dual core phones werent available in the original post.
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He never said dual core phones not available! The quote was not to many available so that means there are some not all
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Poker gypsy said:
He never said dual core phones not available! The quote was not to many available so that means there are some not all
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jimbo77 said:
Here in Guatemala we have not too many options in regards of High End Phones such as the SGS2 or HTC at all
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He specifically mentions not having the SGS2 or high end HTC phones available. And he's getting the offer of a free upgrade from his carrier. And yet this is your suggestion:
Poker gypsy said:
You should go on line and get a HTCsensation or a gs2
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And with that i'm done with this depressingly stupid conversation.

Good for you eBay baby
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Thinking about buying a Play

Hi all,
I currently have a Fascinate on Verizon and am sick of the issues it is having. It seems a large number of them have memory issues and it's constantly restarting and bootlooping at an empty battery screen. Long story short, I want to buy a used Play. Mainly for two reasons. One, I want a working phone, and two, I love playing emulators but hate on-screen controls.
How are you folks liking the Play currently? How are the ICS ROMs running? How is emulator performance (PS1 specifically) on ICS ROMs? Does the gamepad work on ICS ROMs?
Thanks for your help; I really don't want to switch phones for something worse :/

Best phone ever! Fact!
It's an android phone with a gamepad that makes gaming easier, what more do you want
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Growling Clover said:
Best phone ever! Fact!
It's an android phone with a gamepad that makes gaming easier, what more do you want
brought to you by the XDA app on my badass Android toy
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An unlockable boot loader that I don't have to pay 25 bucks for :banghead:
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The battery is one complaint.
Another is the wobblyness when the phone is closed.

mustbepbs said:
An unlockable boot loader that I don't have to pay 25 bucks for :banghead:
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Buy one that is already fully unlocked or one that can be unlocked easily like the r800i
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thatsupnow said:
Buy one that is already fully unlocked or one that can be unlocked easily like the r800i
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I would but I need it as a phone first and foremost and I'm on Verizon. So the r800x is my only choice.
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SirRudolph said:
The battery is one complaint.
Another is the wobblyness when the phone is closed.
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How long do u get with the bttery with standard use and while hard gaming?
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I got my Xperia Play for 169euro in Vodafone IE, so i think it was the best value android phone ever! But i was worried becouse how come Vodafone reduced 500 euro price to 169, i thought it must be crappy phone! But after bootloader unlock and flashing .58 firmware + TrueAncestor Rom from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1546134&highlight=true i think this phone is great! Works fast and smoth, battery for me is long enough too, around 3 days for some wifi use, text and calls. Im not playing so much but i used keypad on GTAIII or Shadowgun and it was good fun! I hate using touchscreen if I played some game ever More likely i flashed few Custom Roms but the best working ICS ROM for me is AokPlay! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582118. So many options!!!!!! and theme manager and many many more! good luck!

I wouldn't because in terms of performance, it's not an upgrade from your old phone, just install cm9 or something and keep using your phone till your contracts up :O

I don´t know If I would buy it again, it´s the best phone ever, BUT, it´s the WORST built quality I´ve ever seem, and I´m serious, it´s the cheapest plastic on a mobile I´ve ever, after 1 week only some cracks appears on the plastic, it hapenned twice, when I first bought it, and after I sent it back and received a new one, they both had the same problem...
Really a shame, it´s the perfect smartphone, with the worst material, don´t know why Sony did that...

I have dropped mine a couple of times but there are no cracks at all...
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Potato13 said:
I wouldn't because in terms of performance, it's not an upgrade from your old phone, just install cm9 or something and keep using your phone till your contracts up :O
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I'm not looking for an "upgrade" to my old phone. My old phone doesn't work properly as I said in my OP. I already had ICS on it too. I'm looking for something to hold me over till December till my upgrade is due, and I love emulators but hate onscreen controls.
I just ordered one today so it should be here Tuesday/Wednesday. Thanks for all the input guys

broke my nexus need a replacement

Hey guys have had some bad luck with my galaxy nexus, I dropped it on the weekend and it is now destroyed. Luckily my insurance company will cover it. The only problem is they are not selling it in Aust anymore. Can anyone recommend a good replacement at a similar price

Well if you still want a Nexus you can ask them to give you your money back and then look for it yourself - I'd do that if my GNex broke. Some near-priced phones (at least in my country) are the Sony Xperia S, the HTC Sensation XE or XL, some Samsung tablet, I think it was the P1000, the Samsung Galaxy R and the HTC Evo 3D hope i helped
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Sorry to say that...
but i think there is no replacement for the Galaxy Nexus
and at this price... mhm... what about the Samsung Galaxy S II for example?
It's not really bad

Yeah unfortunately they won't give me money back only replace it. I loved that phone and flashing ROMS daily. How does the S3 compare

Buy one here: http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/samsung-galaxy-nexus/

Please don't tell him the 3d is an option. He doesn't want that pos
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I'm in the same boat, though my nexus died due to water damage, damned Scottish weather. Using insurance through bank for a new replacement, I miss my nexus :{
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I'm just pointing out some near-priced models he can look up I wouldn't go for the EVO too but I'm not the person looking for a new phone
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trax7 said:
Well if you still want a Nexus you can ask them to give you your money back and then look for it yourself - I'd do that if my GNex broke. Some near-priced phones (at least in my country) are the Sony Xperia S, the HTC Sensation XE or XL, some Samsung tablet, I think it was the P1000, the Samsung Galaxy R and the HTC Evo 3D hope i helped
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gross..... Sorry but these are terrible suggestions.
For the record, do NOT buy anything from sony erricsson, they are the worst

And HTC sucks to root
*This Jedi master be a Ninj-ESS*

crixley said:
gross..... Sorry but these are terrible suggestions.
For the record, do NOT buy anything from sony erricsson, they are the worst
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Normally I'd agree with your statement about SE/Sony (owned an X10), but the Xperia S is getting direct AOSP support now, so it might not be so bad after all

Puck24 said:
Normally I'd agree with your statement about SE/Sony (owned an X10), but the Xperia S is getting direct AOSP support now, so it might not be so bad after all
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direct from google??
Where did you read that.
Or are you implying cm/aokp support?

crixley said:
direct from google??
Where did you read that.
Or are you implying cm/aokp support?
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Straight support from Google, http://bit.ly/NY2GYo, read the first post.

"TL;DR: For a long while this'll probably only be useful for low-level
engineering, but won't be usable as a daily driver."

crixley said:
gross..... Sorry but these are terrible suggestions.
For the record, do NOT buy anything from sony erricsson, they are the worst
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Have you ever used a Sony device? They can be lots of stuff but certainly not the worst! I love my Arc S (on CM9) and I'd only leave it for a Nexus. It's just got everything
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trax7 said:
Have you ever used a Sony device? They can be lots of stuff but certainly not the worst! I love my Arc S (on CM9) and I'd only leave it for a Nexus. It's just got everything
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yep a few..
they're terrible imo.
poor build, the worst custom ui, horrible support.

crixley said:
yep a few..
they're terrible imo.
poor build, the worst custom ui, horrible support.
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Yep, only if you count on that stuff that's why custom ROMs exist I wouldn't say poor build though - like I said, I'm very happy with my Arc S. Newer NXT Xperias might be poorly built but the Arc S even makes the SGS2 look like an ogre
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trax7 said:
Yep, only if you count on that stuff that's why custom ROMs exist I wouldn't say poor build though - like I said, I'm very happy with my Arc S. Newer NXT Xperias might be poorly built but the Arc S even makes the SGS2 look like an ogre
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the arc looks awkward and the cracks everyone gets around the proximity sensor are proof of poor design.
plus se phones are way too expensive for outdated specs

crixley said:
yep a few..
they're terrible imo.
poor build, the worst custom ui, horrible support.
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Build and hardware / software design boils down to personal preference.
As for support... They have the VERY BEST updates. Much better than the crap Samsung and LG.
And... Guys you have insurance for your phones? Wow! I just have crappy warranty that I don't bother voiding.
Blazing on my Nexus Prime

crixley said:
the arc looks awkward and the cracks everyone gets around the proximity sensor are proof of poor design.
plus se phones are way too expensive for outdated specs
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What cracks? I don't have any cracks on it... After all any smartphone needs a protector and a case - that's like a rule I actually didn't see any better phone for it's price (in my country at least)
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Ion or not to Ion...

As lots of you have seen, the lt28at is really cheap on Amazon and eBay (around $250 unlocked) and I'm thinking about buying one as a replacement for my aging HTC Desire.
What do those of you with one think? Is there another phone in that price range that's better? Are you happy with it? It seems the best phone in that price range.
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Im happy with my ion(got it on ebay), good screen, good perfotmance, decent camera. Got a few issues with it though: my camera lens got scratched to the point i couldnt take pics, so i had to do a fix( I used my N95 lens as replacement, works great now), no unlockable bootloader means fewer custom roms. Other than that id say its a good bargain.
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I'm happy with my ion .. everything work perfect
but there is a small issue with camera focus

Yahh. Ion is great. But I bought my phone for $600
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pharix said:
Yahh. Ion is great. But I bought my phone for $600
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Well,Sony Malaysia sell Xperia ion for RM1890 (divide it by 3 to get US price)
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before buying the ion, i really expect this to do much more and much better compare to my previous x10. However, i was so disappointed..
if you want a phone that takes good pictures (good clarity and color), don't take ion;
if you want a phone with good wifi, don't take ion;
if you don't want a phone to randomly shut down the apps you are using without noticing, don't take ion
all of the above essential points to me are not presented in x10, so i am very not happy about the ion
i recommend you just wait for ion's jelly bean review. its ics build is definitely one of the worst if not the worst comparing to samsung/htc/LG's except for the look

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before buying the ion, i really expect this to do much more and much better compare to my previous x10. However, i was so disappointed..
if you want a phone that takes good pictures (good clarity and color), don't take ion;
if you want a phone with good wifi, don't take ion;
if you don't want a phone to randomly shut down the apps you are using without noticing, don't take ion
all of the above essential points to me are not presented in x10, so i am very not happy about the ion
i recommend you just wait for ion's jelly bean review. its ics build is definitely one of the worst if not the worst comparing to samsung/htc/LG's except for the look
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Odd, my ion takes good pics(even in low light), and has no wifi issues. Only app that closes for no reason is browser when watching heavy sites.
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choosing ion
I got my Ion on on ebay for $200.00 it's locked to AT&T so i can't use any custom roms, but i am waiting for the JB update hopefully by end of March and or April. What i did do to make my Ion more snappy is of course root it, install CWM, V6 supercharger to decrease lag, use a deodex L28H rom. I do use my S3 as my primary phone for work, but i just love Sony's look when it comes to the phone design. The Ion is a good not great phone but you just need to "tweak" it a little with mods for now to make run a little better, XDA is a great place to check to do just that!
PS. waiting for the ZL that will be my next Sony Xperia!:good:

luisoman2000 said:
Odd, my ion takes good pics(even in low light), and has no wifi issues. Only app that closes for no reason is browser when watching heavy sites.
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Yes I do agree with you
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UchihaDareNial said:
Well,Sony Malaysia sell Xperia ion for RM1890 (divide it by 3 to get US price)
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Yahh. Agree with that. But I bought my ion 2 months ago. Now the price is $250.
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I've been using an LT28at initially on AT&T then on T-Mobile for a total of 3 months. I previously used an X10 and a Nexus One.
In the U.S., the largest factor for me to have an SIM unlocked ION was its radio. AWS HSPA and LTE bands are covered. Granted LT28at's bootloader is locked and you can't try custom roms or custom kernels. But if you compare the ION with X10, Nexus One or HTC Desire, processing speed alone should feel a big improvement. Sure I love X10 (I still have one) and I personally think X10's push buttons are still better than ION's touch panel buttons. But ION is pretty good, and you won't be disappointed if you switch from HTC Desire.

It looks like I might get the lt28at. I know the bootloader is locked with little hope of that changing, but is it possible to load custom ROMs with the stock kernel?
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Parastie said:
It looks like I might get the lt28at. I know the bootloader is locked with little hope of that changing, but is it possible to load custom ROMs with the stock kernel?
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Yup, there are some roms that use stock kernel(xzxperience, miuiu, xtxperience), they work nicely on the ion(Im running xzxperience right now).
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Okay one last question. Is it possible to get into fastboot on the 28at version? I was reading the bootloader unlock thread and some people were saying that the 28at won't go to fast boot which keeps you from loading cwm. Is that true?
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Parastie said:
Okay one last question. Is it possible to get into fastboot on the 28at version? I was reading the bootloader unlock thread and some people were saying that the 28at won't go to fast boot which keeps you from loading cwm. Is that true?
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You can load cwm without any problems. I believe it is another mode( dont recall what its called right now) which the 28at cant go to which is necessary for bootloader unlocking( i tried). There is a guide o how to install cwm on the ion. You can also flash the generic 28h or i firmwares on the 28at without any issues.
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luisoman2000 said:
You can load cwm without any problems. I believe it is another mode( dont recall what its called right now) which the 28at cant go to which is necessary for bootloader unlocking( i tried). There is a guide o how to install cwm on the ion. You can also flash the generic 28h or i firmwares on the 28at without any issues.
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Awesome thanks!
Do you know what methods to get around the bootloader has been tried?

Parastie said:
Awesome thanks!
Do you know what methods to get around the bootloader has been tried?
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Not really. Guess well have to wait till sony and at&t allow the bootloader unlock. In any case jellybean is not too far away( even if at&t doesnt release the firmware we can flash h or i jellybean).
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[Q] Your Acro S ancient by now?

I think it's still good enough for my use which excludes games, but I would really like a bigger screen, better camera and stock KitKat.
I think it's on its last straw. It reboots now and then which it didn't do before. Maybe it's worn out by all that flashing. Got rooted stock with UL bootlader.

I have a xperia s which is bootloader unlock no and it is also on its last straw
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Will it be Sony again? It will for me. I love the square shape.

I know i didn't choose sony again after i had a xperia t
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Was it that bad?

Xperia t was horrible. Slow, bad battery life, virtual navigation buttons taking up screen space and got so hot it could burn my ear
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andacro said:
I think it's still good enough for my use which excludes games, but I would really like a bigger screen, better camera and stock KitKat.
I think it's on its last straw. It reboots now and then which it didn't do before. Maybe it's worn out by all that flashing. Got rooted stock with UL bootlader.
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Now that it has gone past its warranty, I am playing with new ROMs. It is still quite good and I use it as my primary phone, until the Z2 Compact comes out... hehe...
If you are having issues, you can always flash the original ROM and use Titanium to restore your apps.

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andacro said:
Will it be Sony again? It will for me. I love the square shape.
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I see you've gotten a "Sony" again http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...iss-xposed-t3086097/post60197197#post60197197

koragg97 said:
I see you've gotten a "Sony" again http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...iss-xposed-t3086097/post60197197#post60197197
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:laugh: No more Sony for me because of DRM.