Ion or not to Ion... - Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion

As lots of you have seen, the lt28at is really cheap on Amazon and eBay (around $250 unlocked) and I'm thinking about buying one as a replacement for my aging HTC Desire.
What do those of you with one think? Is there another phone in that price range that's better? Are you happy with it? It seems the best phone in that price range.
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Im happy with my ion(got it on ebay), good screen, good perfotmance, decent camera. Got a few issues with it though: my camera lens got scratched to the point i couldnt take pics, so i had to do a fix( I used my N95 lens as replacement, works great now), no unlockable bootloader means fewer custom roms. Other than that id say its a good bargain.
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I'm happy with my ion .. everything work perfect
but there is a small issue with camera focus

Yahh. Ion is great. But I bought my phone for $600
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pharix said:
Yahh. Ion is great. But I bought my phone for $600
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Well,Sony Malaysia sell Xperia ion for RM1890 (divide it by 3 to get US price)
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before buying the ion, i really expect this to do much more and much better compare to my previous x10. However, i was so disappointed..
if you want a phone that takes good pictures (good clarity and color), don't take ion;
if you want a phone with good wifi, don't take ion;
if you don't want a phone to randomly shut down the apps you are using without noticing, don't take ion
all of the above essential points to me are not presented in x10, so i am very not happy about the ion
i recommend you just wait for ion's jelly bean review. its ics build is definitely one of the worst if not the worst comparing to samsung/htc/LG's except for the look

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before buying the ion, i really expect this to do much more and much better compare to my previous x10. However, i was so disappointed..
if you want a phone that takes good pictures (good clarity and color), don't take ion;
if you want a phone with good wifi, don't take ion;
if you don't want a phone to randomly shut down the apps you are using without noticing, don't take ion
all of the above essential points to me are not presented in x10, so i am very not happy about the ion
i recommend you just wait for ion's jelly bean review. its ics build is definitely one of the worst if not the worst comparing to samsung/htc/LG's except for the look
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Odd, my ion takes good pics(even in low light), and has no wifi issues. Only app that closes for no reason is browser when watching heavy sites.
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choosing ion
I got my Ion on on ebay for $200.00 it's locked to AT&T so i can't use any custom roms, but i am waiting for the JB update hopefully by end of March and or April. What i did do to make my Ion more snappy is of course root it, install CWM, V6 supercharger to decrease lag, use a deodex L28H rom. I do use my S3 as my primary phone for work, but i just love Sony's look when it comes to the phone design. The Ion is a good not great phone but you just need to "tweak" it a little with mods for now to make run a little better, XDA is a great place to check to do just that!
PS. waiting for the ZL that will be my next Sony Xperia!:good:

luisoman2000 said:
Odd, my ion takes good pics(even in low light), and has no wifi issues. Only app that closes for no reason is browser when watching heavy sites.
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Yes I do agree with you
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UchihaDareNial said:
Well,Sony Malaysia sell Xperia ion for RM1890 (divide it by 3 to get US price)
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Yahh. Agree with that. But I bought my ion 2 months ago. Now the price is $250.
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I've been using an LT28at initially on AT&T then on T-Mobile for a total of 3 months. I previously used an X10 and a Nexus One.
In the U.S., the largest factor for me to have an SIM unlocked ION was its radio. AWS HSPA and LTE bands are covered. Granted LT28at's bootloader is locked and you can't try custom roms or custom kernels. But if you compare the ION with X10, Nexus One or HTC Desire, processing speed alone should feel a big improvement. Sure I love X10 (I still have one) and I personally think X10's push buttons are still better than ION's touch panel buttons. But ION is pretty good, and you won't be disappointed if you switch from HTC Desire.

It looks like I might get the lt28at. I know the bootloader is locked with little hope of that changing, but is it possible to load custom ROMs with the stock kernel?
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Parastie said:
It looks like I might get the lt28at. I know the bootloader is locked with little hope of that changing, but is it possible to load custom ROMs with the stock kernel?
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Yup, there are some roms that use stock kernel(xzxperience, miuiu, xtxperience), they work nicely on the ion(Im running xzxperience right now).
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Okay one last question. Is it possible to get into fastboot on the 28at version? I was reading the bootloader unlock thread and some people were saying that the 28at won't go to fast boot which keeps you from loading cwm. Is that true?
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Parastie said:
Okay one last question. Is it possible to get into fastboot on the 28at version? I was reading the bootloader unlock thread and some people were saying that the 28at won't go to fast boot which keeps you from loading cwm. Is that true?
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You can load cwm without any problems. I believe it is another mode( dont recall what its called right now) which the 28at cant go to which is necessary for bootloader unlocking( i tried). There is a guide o how to install cwm on the ion. You can also flash the generic 28h or i firmwares on the 28at without any issues.
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luisoman2000 said:
You can load cwm without any problems. I believe it is another mode( dont recall what its called right now) which the 28at cant go to which is necessary for bootloader unlocking( i tried). There is a guide o how to install cwm on the ion. You can also flash the generic 28h or i firmwares on the 28at without any issues.
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Awesome thanks!
Do you know what methods to get around the bootloader has been tried?

Parastie said:
Awesome thanks!
Do you know what methods to get around the bootloader has been tried?
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Not really. Guess well have to wait till sony and at&t allow the bootloader unlock. In any case jellybean is not too far away( even if at&t doesnt release the firmware we can flash h or i jellybean).
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Should I get the Ion?

I have an unlocked Xperia Arc. Went to the Sony Store NYC to check out their mobiles. The others only have one version for USB connection mode, while the Ion has both because of expandable memory. I also have a feature phone unlimited data, since they kept throttling down my data speeds on "unlimited" data plan.
So, the question is should I get the at&t Ion, or purchase an unlocked version?
Thank you people!!
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I love my ion even stock I miss some of the features of ics but for stock this phones smooth as hell comparative to my i777. I love the screen and the camera is amazing. Overall pretty happy with this phone on GB and ics will be out in sept-oct I think. Roms will come in due time but for now stock works fine
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I just saw something on engaged that Sony is coming out with two more new Mobiles; the T(or TX in some markets) and the V. I believe the T will be released in another eight weeks, around the time of the new JB film, which uses the Mobile. How blatant can you get??!!
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I'm happy with mine, even if the T is looking to be slated to be released just outside of my return/exchange window.
frothe3 said:
So, the question is should I get the at&t Ion, or purchase an unlocked version?
Thank you people!!
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If on att then save your $$ get free phone. Att probably won't get another Sony to upgrade to for another 2 years
~Jaramie
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ToledoJab said:
If on att then save your $$ get free phone. Att probably won't get another Sony to upgrade to for another 2 years
~Jaramie
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Xperia T (with LTE and S4 CPU) is coming to AT&T in Nov.
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Interesting!! I still want an unlocked phone. Feature phone plan I want to keep. The throttling is leftover from the failed T-Mobile.
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Which xperia to get? Need help asap

Hey guys i need to choose between the xperia s, acro s and the ION. Which is the better phone to get? I am more leaning towards the acro s. I have seen the xperia s has focus issues with the camera.
My main use is for messaging and taking pics and surfing forums. Which will be better?
Acro S = S + micro SD slot ... that's all. Whatever issues do you see with harware/software on one, you will see exactly the same on the other also.
Both are newer than ION. It is just a matter of taste.
The S has better development support for non stock software, roms, kernels. If you can get one that has unlockable bootloader.
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has anyone fixed the focus issue with the xperia s? I looked at vids and saw the acro s camera somehow performed way better. I want a micro sd slot so i guess the acro s might be the choice.
If I were you :
Xperia ion
Reason :
Sd card slot
Larger screen atm (4.6 ")
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UchihaDareNial said:
If I were you :
Xperia ion
Reason :
Sd card slot
Larger screen atm (4.6 ")
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Doesn't the ion have video recording issues?
I haven't had any trouble.
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cjna said:
I haven't had any trouble.
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does your phone lag? I see a lot of videos with it lagging the hell out. The auto focus works good now?
mikailmohammed said:
does your phone lag? I see a lot of videos with it lagging the hell out. The auto focus works good now?
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I would have said the ion but due to the lack of major development(kernels&bootloader unlock) I said the S.
I have never had any picture or video issues with the camera or auto focus.
My only complaint is battery life. But I think that's everyones issue with smart phones.
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I would have said the ion but due to the lack of major development(kernels&bootloader unlock) I said the S.
I have never had any picture or video issues with the camera or auto focus.
My only complaint is battery life. But I think that's everyones issue with smart phones.
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I want micro sd.. so it is between the ion and acro s.
Take the Acro S. Compare Acro S and Ion on Phonegg or PhoneArena and see why.
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Jumpkid said:
Take the Acro S. Compare Acro S and Ion on Phonegg or PhoneArena and see why.
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Acro it is then.
how is the battery life with the ION? I heard it is pretty bad.
mikailmohammed said:
how is the battery life with the ION? I heard it is pretty bad.
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Only if you turn on data access for a long time
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About to buy an ion...

Just wondering few things this device will be for a 12 years old kid that is addicted to social media and blablabla... Will this device be good to ditch his ipod ? Hes not really a gamer and how is battery life on this phone ?
Where is battery thread so i can get an idea...
Any known issue I should be aware of ? Thanks..
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Locked bootloader. Battery life is fine if you set up an app like juice defender I can get two days. Would be much better for social media then an iPod because of Timescape which if I'm not mistaken encompasses Twitter facebook and some other social media items in one place. I've dropped the phone multiple times from different heights with just a body case from rock the quicksand edition and it's fine. Cleans up easy from smudges on the screen easily enough. Also has a micro sd slot if he wants lots of pics games music apps and so on
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well definitely a very important issue for me, or maybe that exists in every android device: if it runs out of memory, it has a very big chance closing the app you are CURRENTLY using/navigating. i mean seriously wtf.. another huge issue is the drop calls, which happens randomly, so another seriously wtf.. i think i will go to a sony store and ask for an exchange and then see what happens..
for social media, i think windows phone can handle it in a more reliable way, but ion integrate more stuff in its apps
Odd I never drop calls and with a 16gb sd card I wont run out of space either lol
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Could someone link me to battery thread please ? Couldn't find it and yeah for 150USD cannot ask more out of this phone it is going to be some good fun anyone knows if the Rogers version can be unlocked to work whit videotron ?? Searched a bit couldn't find an answer..
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I have been very pleased with my Ion. I would recommend you pick up a unlocked LT28i if you can swing it. But even if it is a locked version you can run the newest H firmware that I have found is very stable. As for social stuff I think its one of the best out there. Its the only device I know off that has Facebook built into the firmware (well except for its siblings). Battery has been very acceptable in my opinion. I on average get a full day or more before a recharge and even with very heavy use you can still get 8 or so out of it. If I don't use it much it will go more than 2 days. I don't know that we ever had a battery thread as its not really a issue.
You may want to call whomever you buy the phone through att sometimes gives unlock codes for Sims for their models. As for a battery thread there really isn't One but more of a collective bunch of threads helping people with battery issues. I made a quick guide on the ion general to help save battery but to give you a rough estimate I went 20 hours with medium use and only hit 30%.
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Damn really looking forward purchasing this im just scared because the reviews keeps showing lags through the homescreens but getting mine tomorrow ! Joining the boat hopefully it can be used whit videotron/wind...
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There is an app called seeder that eliminates android lagg read up about it its an interesting item
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thanitos said:
There is an app called seeder that eliminates android lagg read up about it its an interesting item
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I read on the portal that it was an placebo effect is it true ? I tried it whit my s3 didnt feel a difference...
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I think it's faster it all depends I guess
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I love my Ion, I've had it for over 3 months and no freeze ups, decent battery life, and lots of functionality. Dedicated hdmi port, expandable memory, solid build, very underrated IMO. Im speaking from experience from lt28h ics firmware and of course my fave miui.
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So can I put on a custom rom like cymod if its says my bootloader is locked?
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No att ions cannot have custom roms and either can Canadian versions I think.
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dam
Darn it that's too bad
thanitos said:
No att ions cannot have custom roms and either can Canadian versions I think.
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Stock ics rooted and deodexed with cwm runs fine for my standards
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Oh ok
Hi not sure what you mean lol new to this I did flash a stock ics 6.1.E.68 to it but not sure what deodexed with cwm is lol like too.
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Stock ics rooted and deodexed with cwm runs fine for my standards
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Rooted lets you access locked stuff on the phone like deleting bloatware and deodexed helps it run faster in some ways just as a basic UN modded phone it's really good
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ok how do I put one on a lt28i
I did flash mine and rooted it but how do I do deodexed? Thanks
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Rooted lets you access locked stuff on the phone like deleting bloatware and deodexed helps it run faster in some ways just as a basic UN modded phone it's really good
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Go to the ion dev thread and download the deodexed Rom from the deodex your ion thread you save it and flash it woth clock work mod
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Does anyone familiar with the "Sony" phones ?

Only "I" in love with Xperia Z ? The design of the phone was killed me. (the phone is full glass black)
Specs is also very good. And most important it got support for AOSP.
Any way Im alone who getting jump to it? I'm just not familiar with Sony.
They are accidentally not like LG with OTA updates?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWysHOjl95E&feature=share&list=PL7CrlqRu8QgSYhFQzMmQ44E8R0BT3zVgp
PS: If you know something about sony (bad/good sides) share with me
Uh completely wrong forum?
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Uh completely wrong forum?
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I wanna ask my people. Exactly here.
I don't want to post in Sony thread's where only certain fanatics of sony will say it's better than samsung.
I wana buy it too....but wana have a look at galaxy s4 too
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I wana buy it too....but wana have a look at galaxy s4 too
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But Sams S4 will come much later after Sony Z. I will deffenetly sell "Z" in that time.
I also don't like interface of sony (it's not stock AOSP), but I remember we got Cyanogen support there.
Im thinking of buying it as a secondary phone to use when I dont want to bring my note around lol.
It will probably replace my hox as my soare phone
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Im thinking of buying it as a secondary phone to use when I dont want to bring my note around lol.
It will probably replace my hox as my soare phone
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Check this design buddy...looks sick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa86s-tGHO4
I have been using Sony Xperia S before my Note 2. ıt was pretty good. I can recommend.
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I have been using Sony Xperia S before my Note 2. ıt was pretty good. I can recommend.
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Thank you akdenizx !
How is build quality ?
I had the Xperia T for a week and returned it. Unbelievable dust magnet. Every piece of dirt and lint and fluff would gravitate towards it.
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I had the Xperia T for a week and returned it. Unbelievable dust magnet. Every piece of dirt and lint and fluff would gravitate towards it.
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That's interesting. \:laugh:
Sony's build quality is actually better than samsung's I think. A lot more solid, have had the xperia s.
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desirer said:
Sony's build quality is actually better than samsung's I think. A lot more solid, have had the xperia s.
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Their build quality is amazing compared to Sammys and much more durable and resiatant to water and shocks but I think they tend to lag behind in terms of performance compared to Sammy,HTC and LG...
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That's interesting. \:laugh:
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Xperia z says water and dust proof xP
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It will be faster than our note 2 cause it has snapdragon s4.. but without spen..lol
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avetny said:
Only "I" in love with Xperia Z ? The design of the phone was killed me. (the phone is full glass black)
Specs is also very good. And most important it got support for AOSP.
Any way Im alone who getting jump to it? I'm just not familiar with Sony.
They are accidentally not like LG with OTA updates?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWysHOjl95E&feature=share&list=PL7CrlqRu8QgSYhFQzMmQ44E8R0BT3zVgp
PS: If you know something about sony (bad/good sides) share with me
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My previous phone was a Xperia Arc S, bought in GB 2.3. Sony update it to ICS, but the first update was a failure: far less memory available, many games stop working. 3 update later, it's better, but finaly i ended to put a custom rom, better than Sony one.
This is one reason why i don't buy another Sony phone. One other reason is there is no many differents models, that it make comparison between models too complicated.
Sony bootloader are locked, you can unlocked them to put different kernel, but you loose the warranty. It's not a big problems, you can always root and put new roms.
The build quality is good, except the paint: I bought a pink one, and paint around the corner fade in few months, showing white plastic behind.
It's still a good phone, I kept it as a backup one, in case of my Note II broke or is stolen. I put the Sony phone in plane mode, and in this mode, battery goes from 100% to 10% in 30days.
I'm always using Sony PC companion for sync between my Outlook account and phone. Kies sync directly the phone, without update you Google account. PC companion update you google account only, and after that you can sync you phone or any device related to you account.
Guys thank you so much !
You all help me a lot ! Love xda.

[Q] Your Acro S ancient by now?

I think it's still good enough for my use which excludes games, but I would really like a bigger screen, better camera and stock KitKat.
I think it's on its last straw. It reboots now and then which it didn't do before. Maybe it's worn out by all that flashing. Got rooted stock with UL bootlader.
I have a xperia s which is bootloader unlock no and it is also on its last straw
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Will it be Sony again? It will for me. I love the square shape.
I know i didn't choose sony again after i had a xperia t
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Was it that bad?
Xperia t was horrible. Slow, bad battery life, virtual navigation buttons taking up screen space and got so hot it could burn my ear
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I think it's still good enough for my use which excludes games, but I would really like a bigger screen, better camera and stock KitKat.
I think it's on its last straw. It reboots now and then which it didn't do before. Maybe it's worn out by all that flashing. Got rooted stock with UL bootlader.
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Now that it has gone past its warranty, I am playing with new ROMs. It is still quite good and I use it as my primary phone, until the Z2 Compact comes out... hehe...
If you are having issues, you can always flash the original ROM and use Titanium to restore your apps.
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Will it be Sony again? It will for me. I love the square shape.
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I see you've gotten a "Sony" again http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...iss-xposed-t3086097/post60197197#post60197197
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I see you've gotten a "Sony" again http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...iss-xposed-t3086097/post60197197#post60197197
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:laugh: No more Sony for me because of DRM.

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