Battery and optic sensor question - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello! I decided that it's time to once more "freshen up" my 3,5 year old HTC Desire. I installed a stock ROM and I'm using Link2SD to deal with the memory problems, so that is that. But 2 main things that concern me right now, and I would like to hear someone's opinion:
(Warning: questions may sound completely stupid)
1. After 3.5 years battery life is starting to bother me. Is it worth it to buy a new one? Aren't all batteries for Desire old by now? Should I buy an original or not(let's say the capacity is the same)?
2. This is the stupidest part of my question. Whenever it's sunny outside and I try to use my phone, the optic sensor is going nuts. Sometimes it's impossible to wright a message because it constantly is trying to scroll up. Is it possible to disable the optic sensor or maybe fix it?
Really want to hear some thoughts on this. Thanks!

TheDoubleD said:
Hello! I decided that it's time to once more "freshen up" my 3,5 year old HTC Desire. I installed a stock ROM and I'm using Link2SD to deal with the memory problems, so that is that. But 2 main things that concern me right now, and I would like to hear someone's opinion:
(Warning: questions may sound completely stupid)
1. After 3.5 years battery life is starting to bother me. Is it worth it to buy a new one? Aren't all batteries for Desire old by now? Should I buy an original or not(let's say the capacity is the same)?
2. This is the stupidest part of my question. Whenever it's sunny outside and I try to use my phone, the optic sensor is going nuts. Sometimes it's impossible to wright a message because it constantly is trying to scroll up. Is it possible to disable the optic sensor or maybe fix it?
Really want to hear some thoughts on this. Thanks!
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1. When you buy a battery, you buy a new one, not used. So, the answer to your question is buy a new battery
2. Optic sensor doesn't have anything to do with scrolling, it only adjusts screen brightness. My guess is your digitizer is going to die soon.
Does your phone heat up more than normal? Because, if it does, your motherboard could be faulty

donkeykong1 said:
1. When you buy a battery, you buy a new one, not used. So, the answer to your question is buy a new battery
2. Optic sensor doesn't have anything to do with scrolling, it only adjusts screen brightness. My guess is your digitizer is going to die soon.
Does your phone heat up more than normal? Because, if it does, your motherboard could be faulty
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I'm sorry, by optic sensor I meant the optic trackball (added pic in attachment).

Related

Help!

Hi,
I need some help before I buy an XDA IIs.
I need to know the following things:
1. What is the keyboard like to type on?
2. What are the biggest and most annoying glitches?
3. Does it support a 2GB SD card?
Many Thanks,
Richard
the keyboard is naff, i used it the first day and not used it since. The letters are to small and you have to press quite hard on the letters
i have no major issues with the blue angle. please note that this is my first pda so i don’t have anything to compare it with
thnx for your reply.
I also want to know about when you receive an sms.
Does the screen come on? and is the screen 'pressable' so it clicks around the menus in your pocket? or is there some way to stop this :?:
Cheers
Rich
The BA is a nice toy if you have the cash.
On the down side is the hardware, the Keyboard is crap IMHO. It gets loose and falls down by itself.
The Sound quality is bad, Tinny, scratchy, you can up the radio do a lot of other things but it still crap.
Battery life is poor if you are on wifi for a long time.
The os has its own issues.
So the short of it all is that I love the bugger, it has past many an hour of frustration, I have turned it into a brik, dented it and now even the stylist wont stay in it place.
Would i go back to a phone just as it works? no way to many things to find out and learn about.
So is it the choice for you, that q I cant answer but if you do get a HTC device this is the site to be on.

[Q] HTC Desire Ran over by a CAR!

Long story short, my HTC Desire got ran over by a car and the screen is scattered and broken, the phone turns on but all I see is few coloured pixels and soon after I turned the phone on, it gets hot.
So I am just asking whether the phone will be able to get fixed by changing the screen or the internal hardware of the phone is broken and I would have to buy a new one?
your phone is pretty much screwed my friend , sorry about that , if its over heating there is either a battery problem or internal damage (probaly internal damage as the battery allows the phone to power on) my advice would be to email HTC and see if warranty will cover the damage , if not looks like you will need a new phone, sorry bro
Thread of the year!
*shakes magic eight ball* - "all signs point to yes"
Is this the answer you wanted?
You tried this didnt you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeGhY8zVcKw
Sorry for your loss though.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Yes, you can use voodoo magic.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
Here is tutorial how to tear your desire down:
http://tjworld.net/blog/htc-desire-tear-down
that's not the only problem. It quickly overheat so there is a hardware problem , a really serious one. it may have some capacitors broke or just a short circuit. in the better case you will just have an instable sistem that can just make artefacts on schreen and sometimes bad calculations and draining the battery as an electric ferrari. or it can make burn/short chircuit/damage with high pulses other components as your new amoled that kl_arnet linked.
The pcb is too small for repair micro components, if the waranty will cover it they will just change your phone.
if you wanna try change the schreen before atempting it is a good idea to disasemple it a bit and check for pcb damage or conuctive material around came from .. maybe a broked screw?? (improbably but I don't know what's inside)
or it can just be the screen to ovrheat...

[Q] DHD booting, but no display activity. How to repair?

Hi all. In need of a bit of advice here. Hope this is in the right forum.
My beloved DHD has suffered from one too many falls. Despite being protected in an Otterbox Commuter case, he now lies on his deathbed. Even though I was considering an upgrade, I'm thinking I might want to stretch out his life for as long as possible instead. So I've come here to ask for repair advice.
- The phone seems structurally sound from the outside, no damage besides minor aesthetic scratches from before the phone was protected by the Otterbox.
- It appears to boot. Makes the vibration noise etc. Heck the alarm even went off the other morning, at the set time of 0630.
- Screen does not function at all. Lifeless. But not broken in any way externally. Because of this, had to pull the battery to shut the alarm off.
- When plugged in to charge, charging light indicator does not illuminate.
Any ideas?
Sent from my nipple running windows 95 NT.
Cheers, although I'm gonna try a different approach for now.
Any ideas? Can anyone point me in the right direction of some advice?
Sounds like 2 things. Broken lcd and a broken charging port. It wouldn't be worth repairing. You could buy one second hand on ebay for aboot £120.
Sent from my nipple running windows 95 NT.
Thanks for that. Considering trying to sell it broken, for parts. Only thing that concerns me is any sensitive data that may be readily accessed by someone who knows how to get to it.
Is there a way to wipe it?
You could use another dhd with the same firmware and copy the key/button presses and reset it in bootloader mode.
Sent from my laser emitting mammary glands.
Could also be that the connector for the screen has been dislodged due to being drop to many times you mite try opening it up and see if it is that.
lincolnep said:
Could also be that the connector for the screen has been dislodged due to being drop to many times you mite try opening it up and see if it is that.
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Hi, thanks for the response. So I assume you're referring to this part here?
http://www.parts4repair.com/htc-desire-hd-lcd-screen-fpc-connector/
Seen in this disassembly video from the 3:05 minute mark?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfatoeWbMRk
bump...
I have a problem similar to yours. But in my case, I'd turned the phone off to go to the cinema and the LCD and touch never turned on again.
In order to erase your data, did you try overwriting a stock rom? (In case it's just the charging LED that is broken)
That sucks! Self detonating phone. Does yours still vibrate and 'turn on'?
Haven't actually managed to clear the data. I'm ordering this part here (http://www.parts4repair.com/htc-desire-hd-lcd-screen-fpc-connector/) and I'm going to attempt to pull it apart and fix it.
If I can get it to work again I'll sell the One V I'm using and go back to the old faithful!
Well this saves me from starting a new thread haha
Anyway i am having the exact same problem as you have.
My dad brought home a Desire HD from work wich was not working so i am trying to fix it.
The phone boots, it vibrates ones and after a minute it makes the boot sound.
But nothing responses and the lights wont turn on.
Also no charging light..
Also it does not charge but usb does connect.
Could this be the FPC connector or the screen?
Hmmm...interesting, exact same issue as mine.
Well, I've ordered the FPC connector replacement part I linked above...going to attempt to play around with it when it arrives and see if I can breathe new life into the phone. So I can tell you how that goes...
Although:
1. Would the charging light and screen problem be connected? Is this feasible? Or does it suggest something else is likely shot?
2. I believe the FPC connector requires a solder to replace. This could be a bit ambitious on my part to attempt to repair...any ideas on what sort of a solder would be suitable?
Sent from my HTC One V using xda premium
suitup said:
Hmmm...interesting, exact same issue as mine.
Well, I've ordered the FPC connector replacement part I linked above...going to attempt to play around with it when it arrives and see if I can breathe new life into the phone. So I can tell you how that goes...
Although:
1. Would the charging light and screen problem be connected? Is this feasible? Or does it suggest something else is likely shot?
2. I believe the FPC connector requires a solder to replace. This could be a bit ambitious on my part to attempt to repair...any ideas on what sort of a solder would be suitable?
Sent from my HTC One V using xda premium
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no clean flux core solder would work best, preferably something very thin (about .015"). A small bottle of noclean flux would also help and you probably will need lead free solder as that is likely what they used on the board to begin with, and lead and leadfree dont typically mix as well.
Thanks for the quick reply...
Something like this?
http://www.oritech.com.au/productDetail.aspx?productID=23244
What sort of iron would be suited? Would any of these suit?
http://www.oritech.com.au/categories.aspx?categoryID=321
Would you say it'd be a difficult process? I've soldered before, but a that was a while ago in high school...
Also the cost of all this equipment will far outweigh the cost of the $3 FPC connector spare!
suitup said:
Thanks for the quick reply...
Something like this?
http://www.oritech.com.au/productDetail.aspx?productID=23244
What sort of iron would be suited? Would any of these suit?
http://www.oritech.com.au/categories.aspx?categoryID=321
Would you say it'd be a difficult process? I've soldered before, but a that was a while ago in high school...
Also the cost of all this equipment will far outweigh the cost of the $3 FPC connector spare!
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yes, those should both work fine. ya it is costly for equipment. i have a edsyn iron i use at home and solder i get from work. i would say it can be tricky, i havent seen the connector but im sure its similar to other inline ribbon connectors. remember, short burst soldering, heating it for too long will take the pad off the pcb, and repairing THAT can become very difficult.
suitup said:
Hmmm...interesting, exact same issue as mine.
Well, I've ordered the FPC connector replacement part I linked above...going to attempt to play around with it when it arrives and see if I can breathe new life into the phone. So I can tell you how that goes...
Although:
1. Would the charging light and screen problem be connected? Is this feasible? Or does it suggest something else is likely shot?
2. I believe the FPC connector requires a solder to replace. This could be a bit ambitious on my part to attempt to repair...any ideas on what sort of a solder would be suitable?
Sent from my HTC One V using xda premium
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Thanks. We have a spare DHD with broken glass here wich my sister is using unter her SGS is back from repair. Will swap the motherboard when her phone is back.
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

The Cause Of Screen Flickering With A "Possible Solution"

Many One X owners, including me, has be having from display/screen issues that are quite annoying. And apparently, none has a definite answer as to what the main cause is. hTC has exchanged all those faulty devices, claiming it's a "hardware" issue...while in fact, it's their stupid back covers...i'll explain as we speak.
First, to know what screen/display problem i'm talking about, please refer to this Video.
Few days ago, i got my hands on a "Dead" One X...but i just refused that fact...because it just works! but no screen....screen is always blank....can touch it, go to dealer and make a phone call even. Sometimes the screen turned, sometimes, and it was like in the video, exactly like it.....so what's the problem?!
yesterday, i'll be honest, i got mad at this phone and held it with a tight grip...my finger happened to press just above something...and the screen turned on! worked great in fact! i was astonished! it just worked....but, oops, i turned off screen, then when wanting to turn it back on...blank...
I kept pushing on the back casing of the phone, trying to find the same place that made the screen turn back on...and viola, same place pressed on, screen back on.
Wanna know what's causing all of this?
Here you go:
Click me!
And those connectors Should be in good contact with this on the back cover
Click me too!
But you know, hTC ****ed this one up, just like it does on most devices with connectors on the back cover...*sigh*...like the sensation for example...
So what to do now?
i tried a bunch of things, and almost broke those connectors with a stupid thick aluminum foil on top of them...
also i tried bending them up, but that doesn't help either, as when the cover pushes them down, their shape will change and well...didn't work.
i also tried putting aluminum foil on the metal connectors on the actual cover...didn't help as well!
it seems only pushing on it from outside does the trick!!
i also tried pushing on the connectors together while the back casing is off, didn't work...as it seems there must be a triple connection...board, connectors, and cover...
I think the only solution would be with a new back casing? but...if hTC f****d it up with this one, wouldn't all back casing suck too?? or is this a manufacturing problem that the connectors are just short and won't connect well?!
here are pictures of how the phone turned on magically after pressing over that connector, and another of how the screen gets messed up when the, well, there's not a good connection...Thank you hTC!
Sample 1 Sample 2
Tomorrow i will buy a new back casing and report if that helped me or not.
I only came to this because i have no warranty...if you have warranty, please consider an exchange!
Oh, and finally, i was able to get into bootloader, first time i saw that screen! always has been blank!...pushing on the connector also did the trick.
Finally!
Soooo...comments?
If anyone has an idea on how to make the back casing come in better contact with those connectors, please let me know.
UPDATE
Hmm, why did you put this into Q&A?
what? in a bad mood and wanna bash me?
where should i put it then? as people with such problem would come ask here, am i right?
EDIT: lol, it's all good now ^^
arabology said:
what? in a bad mood and wanna bash me?
where should i put it then? as people with such problem would come ask here, am i right?
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Well nah, would post it into General , as this was more like a guide. I wasn't bashing.. and not in a bad mood... If anything I bumped your thread up...
Also wanted to say that those contacts and that case seems to be f..cked up in general. As next to those you have the WIFI ones which in another thread, thats in General is shown how to fix...
My first comment was a compliment and you could clearly see I was smiling as I am on my avatar smiling. No reason to get defensive...
PAGOT said:
Well nah, would post it into General , as this was more like a guide. I wasn't bashing.. and not in a bad mood... If anything I bumped your thread up...
Also wanted to say that those contacts and that case seems to be f..cked up in general. As next to those you have the WIFI ones which in another thread, thats in General is shown how to fix...
My first comment was a compliment and you could clearly see I was smiling as I am on my avatar smiling. No reason to get defensive...
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oh well...also WIFI connectors are bad?...no wonder SIII is flying and hTC is dying...
anyway, maybe a moderator can take this thread to the general forum, thanks for pointing those things out!
and sorry i seemed mean, but many, really, many users have nothing better to do but nag...trolls
thanks ^^
Soldering would fix this!
putting two round solders on the gold plates of the back cover. i will try that tomorrow. but i fear they would squash the connectors on the board? as that's what happened when i used two tiny balls of aluminum foil....one connector got squashed by it and i had to push it back up and play with it to make it look normal again.....hmmmm
arabology said:
Soldering would fix this!
putting two round solders on the gold plates of the back cover. i will try that tomorrow. but i fear they would squash the connectors on the board? as that's what happened when i used two tiny balls of aluminum foil....one connector got squashed by it and i had to push it back up and play with it to make it look notmal again.....hhhhh
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Moved to general forum hope youll fix it bro...
So it is a hardware fault,would never guess that...in the general forum you have a topic with the name "wifi fault" give a look on that
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
muamers said:
Moved to general forum hope youll fix it bro...
So it is a hardware fault,would never guess that...in the general forum you have a topic with the name "wifi fault" give a look on that
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
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*nods* already took a look at that
will try the soldering...or connecting a wire between both connectors...one of those should work
arabology said:
*nods* already took a look at that
will try the soldering...or connecting a wire between both connectors...one of those should work
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Like you guys would say: "inshallah" :d
Just dont rush with the opening and be carefull
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
waw another fellow citizen
so before we go ahead and go
doooom gloooom htcccc suxxxxxxx
lets first affirm tons of people have no problems with their wifi and their screens
so yes those connectors issues whether screen or wifi are another forum of a manufacturing defect, things might not be perfectly aligned and hence the issue
the flickering issue your thread title suggests finding the source of, isnt related to this, 90% of the corruption we saw out of box on the HOX turned out to be software including the back-light flicker which HTC fixed by readjusting the LCD voltage
moving on to your question a new back cover might very well fix it unless the misalignment is on the board
but im wondering why is this pin related to the screen to begin with? the Sensation didn't have such a pin you could remove the back cover and the screen kept operating, also the disassemble photos that were posted for the HOX showed the board and screen running perfectly without the back cover
as for the stupid copper foil, make sure you don't loose it unless you are planning to make a bomb its added to distribute Tegra3 heat
arabology said:
*nods* already took a look at that
will try the soldering...or connecting a wire between both connectors...one of those should work
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Before you do that, please check the WIFI thread. There was already one member that described that soldering or adding a wire might be possibly harmful in the long run.
Changing the electricity stuff, how its called, the resistance or something (for the antenna though)
I'm having the same damn issue (check the picture) and thanks to Arabology for the well explanation on the problem. what I did was to send my phone to the service center and they told me it will take 3 working days (today was just the 1st day) for the technician to diagnose the fault and decide whether to replace the device or to repair it.
given that its a well known defect - should I just demand an exchange for a new device just incase if they revert that they repaired my phone? because I am sure the chances for the problem to reoccur is high.
Also just so you know I purchased this phone only about 3 months ago in HTC roadshow launch of OneX in Malaysia. HTC needs to come out with really quality products otherwise they will loose all their customers to samsung & apple (I believe they already lost major % of their loyal customers to their rivals)
oh well hope to get a good news soon. will keep u guys posted.
Update:
well, My One X is just cursed, few days ago it feel off my hand and the screen got cracked. now i'm waiting for my local repair station to get hold of a One X digitizer.
ALSO, HUGE NEWS, seems i was wrong. it's not the connectors. it's the whole part where there is a copper kinda sheath over it...i guess that's where are the cores are plus the Nvidia Tegra chip??! turned out, when i push there, that the screen lights up. at first i thought it's the connector, coz that's the most reasonable right?
what could be wrong under that? well, that place can be taken off, there's a metal housing that can be lifted off....idk, nothing seems wrong there...but seriously, just a slight push lights up the screen! so now i'm using the oldest trick in the book, i put a wrapped paper at the back of the casing, just where it will push over the place i talked about, and now screen is always on....just this small push does the job!! no more flickering!
i repeat, it's not the connector nor the back casing.......only God and hTC knows what's going on...
i did further investigations and tried to relate the "push" to any connections that could be on the board from the other side, but after disassembling the phone, there does't seem to be anything on the other side of the board that needs that certain force to help the screen to light up....idk, this just boggles the mind.
...anyone has any clue?!?
BTW, phone is working great even with the cracked screen, playing Dark Meadow just fine
walker07 said:
I'm having the same damn issue (check the picture) and thanks to Arabology for the well explanation on the problem. what I did was to send my phone to the service center and they told me it will take 3 working days (today was just the 1st day) for the technician to diagnose the fault and decide whether to replace the device or to repair it.
given that its a well known defect - should I just demand an exchange for a new device just incase if they revert that they repaired my phone? because I am sure the chances for the problem to reoccur is high.
Also just so you know I purchased this phone only about 3 months ago in HTC roadshow launch of OneX in Malaysia. HTC needs to come out with really quality products otherwise they will loose all their customers to samsung & apple (I believe they already lost major % of their loyal customers to their rivals)
oh well hope to get a good news soon. will keep u guys posted.
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i say you should demand an exchange. hopefully the device they'll give will be of a different tier of products that doesn't have that silly, unknown problem.
also, i'm pretty well sure that they won't repair your device. as i read many users regarding this issue, all of them got an exchange......seems pretty messed up. and i doubt my paper trick will hold long before this issue comes back
PAGOT said:
Before you do that, please check the WIFI thread. There was already one member that described that soldering or adding a wire might be possibly harmful in the long run.
Changing the electricity stuff, how its called, the resistance or something (for the antenna though)
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now that i have a paper inside my back casing, i can see that my WIFI connection is not at it's best, because of the extra space it took. so i'll most probably solder all the connectors
arabology said:
Update:
what could be wrong under that? well, that place can be taken off, there's a metal housing that can be lifted off....idk, nothing seems wrong there...but seriously, just a slight push lights up the screen! so now i'm using the oldest trick in the book, i put a wrapped paper at the back of the casing, just where it will push over the place i talked about, and now screen is always on....just this small push does the job!! no more flickering!
i repeat, it's not the connector nor the back casing.......only God and hTC knows what's going on...
i did further investigations and tried to relate the "push" to any connections that could be on the board from the other side, but after disassembling the phone, there does't seem to be anything on the other side of the board that needs that certain force to help the screen to light up....idk, this just boggles the mind.
...anyone has any clue?!?
BTW, phone is working great even with the cracked screen, playing Dark Meadow just fine
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there was some guy, who posted a youtube video of when he pushed a certain area of his screen (the front part), it would switch off!
It only did it when pushed in that area, it was literally like a second power button.
Sorry I don't know exactly what it was, just the fact that somebody else had a similar problem!
HTC repaired my phone as the screen was faulty, it had a yellow tint, when i sent it for repair it did have screen flickering, ever since its come back, with a new screen, i rooted it and also put in the NEW ARHD rom, 2.05.2 base or something, it has stopped flickering :fingers-crossed:
walker07 said:
I'm having the same damn issue (check the picture) and thanks to Arabology for the well explanation on the problem. what I did was to send my phone to the service center and they told me it will take 3 working days (today was just the 1st day) for the technician to diagnose the fault and decide whether to replace the device or to repair it.
given that its a well known defect - should I just demand an exchange for a new device just incase if they revert that they repaired my phone? because I am sure the chances for the problem to reoccur is high.
Also just so you know I purchased this phone only about 3 months ago in HTC roadshow launch of OneX in Malaysia. HTC needs to come out with really quality products otherwise they will loose all their customers to samsung & apple (I believe they already lost major % of their loyal customers to their rivals)
oh well hope to get a good news soon. will keep u guys posted.
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Finally found someone with the exact same problem. I haven't been able to use my hox properly for weeks. Think I need to be sending back to HTC
Sent from my X10i using XDA
Finally I've got my OneX replaced with a new unit.:laugh: Hoping this will not have any sort of hardware faulty anymore.
interestingly. while waiting for my turn in the service center, I was just talking to a guy sitting and waiting beside me who came to report a problem with his OneX
and apparently its his 4th time visit to the service center. And all his previous 3 visits ended up with his OneX getting replaced each time....and each time with a different hardware issue (screen flickering / dead pixels / color faulty). Oh man....I thought the OneX was the best quality product from HTC.
and now I'm having a slight regret that I shud have just waited for another 2 more months and bought the SIII instead. God knows what other problems my OneX is going to come up with.
Hi
arabology said:
Update:
well, My One X is just cursed, few days ago it feel off my hand and the screen got cracked. now i'm waiting for my local repair station to get hold of a One X digitizer.
ALSO, HUGE NEWS, seems i was wrong. it's not the connectors. it's the whole part where there is a copper kinda sheath over it...i guess that's where are the cores are plus the Nvidia Tegra chip??! turned out, when i push there, that the screen lights up. at first i thought it's the connector, coz that's the most reasonable right?
what could be wrong under that? well, that place can be taken off, there's a metal housing that can be lifted off....idk, nothing seems wrong there...but seriously, just a slight push lights up the screen! so now i'm using the oldest trick in the book, i put a wrapped paper at the back of the casing, just where it will push over the place i talked about, and now screen is always on....just this small push does the job!! no more flickering!
i repeat, it's not the connector nor the back casing.......only God and hTC knows what's going on...
i did further investigations and tried to relate the "push" to any connections that could be on the board from the other side, but after disassembling the phone, there does't seem to be anything on the other side of the board that needs that certain force to help the screen to light up....idk, this just boggles the mind.
...anyone has any clue?!?
BTW, phone is working great even with the cracked screen, playing Dark Meadow just fine
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Probably what's referred to as a dry joint or some other connection not connecting very well, not uncommon in electronics.
You need to get it repaired or replaced, simple as that. If it is a dry joint under one of the chips that use a ball grid array of solder points, you will never be able to sort that out yourself and it would be scrapped more than likely rather than a repair attempted for such a fault. To repair, it would need to go into a special over to heat it enough to melt the solder under the chip. Exerting pressure will just eventually make things worse as you can end up fracturing more of the soldered connections as there is little give to resist flexing.
Regards
Phil

[Q] HOLE in galaxy Tab S

PEOPLE ! Daf** happend with my tablet ?
Today in the morning i put my tablet charging and a few minutes ago, where i pick up this happend.
The tablet in on fire when i pick her up, i mean, i can´t hold it in my hands because of the heat.
what can i do now ? :crying::crying::crying::crying:
HugoSilva said:
PEOPLE ! Daf** happend with my tablet ?
Today in the morning i put my tablet charging and a few minutes ago, where i pick up this happend.
The tablet in on fire when i pick her up, i mean, i can´t hold it in my hands because of the heat.
what can i do now ? :crying::crying::crying::crying:
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Ive never seen anything like this!? I dont know how your gonna explain it to samsung...
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Ive never seen anything like this!? I dont know how your gonna explain it to samsung...
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i don´t know either. But its not my fault...
If it is not your fault, someone else is responsible. Such a damage does not occur without external force.
Best , maris
Does it still turn on? Where is the heat coming from, where it's cracked?
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ashyx said:
Does it still turn on? Where is the heat coming from, where it's cracked?
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she was on while charging, after i take off the charger the tablet still work 100% ( i guess), but i turned off because was too hot.
The heat was coming from the place where you put the charger. ( i guess was a factory error in the charger and was heat too much, i don´t know)
I´m afraid in the moment i get the tablet to samsung they say that was me that dropped to the ground and broke the screen.
Either the battery expanded and broke the panel or something related to the battery. Im not sure if samsung will replace that.. How old is this tablet?
I would make sure to add a note (hand written message) when returning it to Samsung that you have included the charger and the cable for them to test and I would tape a note to the back of the tablet so they can't say they didn't see it and take pictures of the note taped to the tablet.
If you were charging it with the factory charger and the cable as per the instructions I would fight them to the end for a replacement!
That hole is obviously made by external forces. If it was caused by heat or battery expansion it wouldn't look like that. Either you smashed something onto it or someone else did.
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Either the battery expanded and broke the panel or something related to the battery. Im not sure if samsung will replace that.. How old is this tablet?
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3 months
snapper.fishes said:
That hole is obviously made by external forces. If it was caused by heat or battery expansion it wouldn't look like that. Either you smashed something onto it or someone else did.
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You are wrong, the tablet was on my office when i put it on charge, then leave, nobody gets in the office ( i'm sure) and when i come back the tablet is like this...
flhthemi said:
I would make sure to add a note when returning it to Samsung that you have included the charger and the cable for them to test and I would tape a note to the back of the tablet so they can't say they didn't see it and take pictures of the note taped to the tablet.
If you were charging it with the factory charger and the cable as per the instructions I would fight them to the end for a replacement!
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What do you mean with a note ?
Yes i was using the factory charger...
HugoSilva said:
You are wrong, the tablet was on my office when i put it on charge, then leave, nobody gets in the office ( i'm sure) and when i come back the tablet is like this...
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If you are adamant that no one else could have man handled your tablet while you were out, the other possible explanation is that your tablet experienced some extreme temperature and had a pre existing weak point at that position (micro fractures can be invisible to the eye).
It is unlikely that your battery could have become hot enough to crack your screen without bursting into flames first, so the other extreme is more likely. Is there a chance that the ambient temperature of your office dropped to freezing or near freezing while you were away?
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What do you mean with a note ?
Yes i was using the factory charger...
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A NOTE = A hand written message on a piece of paper for the tech to read at the repair facility.
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If you are adamant that no one else could have man handled your tablet while you were out, the other possible explanation is that your tablet experienced some extreme temperature and had a pre existing weak point at that position (micro fractures can be invisible to the eye).
It is unlikely that your battery could have become hot enough to crack your screen without bursting into flames first, so the other extreme is more likely. Is there a chance that the ambient temperature of your office dropped to freezing or near freezing while you were away?
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No one enter my office because i locked after leaving. And the temperature was always the same, ambient temperature. 10 to 15° celsius.
Most probable scenario is that someone physically damaged the unit since you did leave it unattended. Achems Razor will help cut to the truth.
Occam's Razor
But point well made. Pretty dang amazing damage. Almost looks like a small caliber bullet hole. Yikes! Hope the OP shares what eventually is the result.
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You are wrong, the tablet was on my office when i put it on charge, then leave, nobody gets in the office ( i'm sure) and when i come back the tablet is like this...
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I'm interested in buying this tablet which is how I've ended up here (new to the community).
Having some experience with lithium-polymer batteries from hobbies of mine, my first thought was 'what type of battery does it have?' Li-Po batteries have a tendency to expand and potentially catch alight if 'gone dodgy' or over-charged. The Galaxy Tab S uses a Lithium-Ion battery which it turns out can have similar behaviour.
This could well explain the state of the tablet (and the heat). It might not have caught alight with a standard charger, or you got to it before it did. Either way, good thing you got to it when you did!
I can't post any external links yet as I'm still too new, but googling "Lithium Ion battery expansion" and "explosion" shows some examples of what can happen to these batteries (although I don't believe this to be very common).
This type of expansion force from inside the unit would most likely burst the screen and I can only imagine that being pretty nasty, and possibly the cause of the state that your tablet was in.
I trust that you got it replaced through your warranty without any quibble?!..
skeeterpro said:
Occam's Razor
But point well made. Pretty dang amazing damage. Almost looks like a small caliber bullet hole. Yikes! Hope the OP shares what eventually is the result.
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Waiting for a reply from Samsun.
But maybe Samsung will not help me, then i will have to spend at least 200€ to put a new LCD. :crying::crying:
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