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Hey guys,
A friend of mine just got an Incredible and for the most part is loving it. The only problem he has is that the battery has a very short life in comparison (I'm on a nexus one and I usually get 4 or 5 hours more than him doing the same amount of activity)
I was just wondering if replacing sense with Launcher Pro or ADW or something would help out his battery life any. I'm not exactly sure how the launcher or custom skins affect battery life. I figure this would be the best place to ask.
Thanks in advance
the best thing I've found to improve battery life within the OS is to go into the sync settings and set everything in there that you don't use to either update manually or update once a day. Even though I never set it up to, it had stocks/news/weather setup to update hourly as the default.
If he uses facebook set that up to update once a day. I personally didn't need it to update every 15 minutes because you can refresh it whenever you want to check it. Wether you use sense or not it still runs in the background since so many apps are built into it.
Use autobrightness or a lower screen brightness. set the screen timeout for 15-30 seconds.
little things like that save big in battery
unknownrebelx said:
Hey guys,
A friend of mine just got an Incredible and for the most part is loving it. The only problem he has is that the battery has a very short life in comparison (I'm on a nexus one and I usually get 4 or 5 hours more than him doing the same amount of activity)
I was just wondering if replacing sense with Launcher Pro or ADW or something would help out his battery life any. I'm not exactly sure how the launcher or custom skins affect battery life. I figure this would be the best place to ask.
Thanks in advance
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Sadly, no it won't help. The Sense UI program (Rosie) continues to run in the background even with Launcherpro installed. His best bet is to root and install one of the Froyo roms we have. My battery life has improved tremendously since I upgraded.
Asterdroid said:
Sadly, no it won't help. The Sense UI program (Rosie) continues to run in the background even with Launcherpro installed. His best bet is to root and install one of the Froyo roms we have. My battery life has improved tremendously since I upgraded.
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This!
Also, he probably wants to get one of the 1500mAh batteries that fits with the oe back cover. ( I got mine off ebay for $15 )
edit: here is the item: http://item.ebay.com/170500602834
With that battery and SkyRaider's 2.2 rom, I can EASILY get at least a full day out of mine.
Also, like was stated a few posts up, changing the programs that are syncing to do so less frequently will help a lot.
(Hope it's OK to cross post...) see this thread, it has a lot of tips on getting better battery life all compiled into one thread.
http://androidforums.com/tips-tricks-incredible/61755-want-incredible-battery-life-official-htc-incredible-battery-thread.html
Thanks for the help guys.
I showed him this thread this morning and he doesn't want to root yet because he read somewhere about the new update from Verizon un-rooting the phone with the OTA update. I explained that a custom rom wouldnt get the OTA but he wants to wait nonetheless
He did disable sync and purchased the new battery today though so hopefully that kicks the battery to at least 12 hours.
So there is no way to completely shut off the Sense UI at this point without completely loading a new ROM? Boo.
He needs to realize that there is no guarantee that he'll be able to root AFTER the official OTA comes out. If he plans on rooting he should do it NOW, and after the ota comes out the devs will make a rooted rom based on it.
For all we know, the ota will patch the exploit that had allowed us to get root access to begin with.
Make sure he knows that if he is rooted and running a custom rom, the ota will not be loaded, thus his phone will not be "unrooted".
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execute_method said:
He needs to realize that there is no guarantee that he'll be able to root AFTER the official OTA comes out. If he plans on rooting he should do it NOW, and after the ota comes out the devs will make a rooted rom based on it.
For all we know, the ota will patch the exploit that had allowed us to get root access to begin with.
Make sure he knows that if he is rooted and running a custom rom, the ota will not be loaded, thus his phone will not be "unrooted".
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What he said.
I'm running Skyraider's latest. It seems to be fairly bug free for me, it has Froyo and all of it's goodness, plus it has some goodies that probably won't be available with the VZW update.
The unrEVOked team isn't confident they can root the update. Within hours of the VZW update hitting the airwaves, the devs will have stable ROMs based on it.
On the other hand...if you don't have any real reason to root...there's not a capability you need that rooted phones have, or you don't like living on the edge of root, or you don't have an experimental side to you...rooting offers no real advantage.
I installed 4.3 last week which I now bitterly regret:
- memory footprint has almost doubled
- battery life has almost halved
- most applications no longer launch immediately, there is a black screen or a hang for several seconds before the apps actually launch
Is that to be expected or is there anything that can be done?
By the looks of it, Samsung may have expedited my move to another manufacturer.
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I installed 4.3 last week which I now bitterly regret:
- memory footprint has almost doubled
- battery life has almost halved
- most applications no longer launch immediately, there is a black screen or a hang for several seconds before the apps actually launch
Is that to be expected or is there anything that can be done?
By the looks of it, Samsung may have expedited my move to another manufacturer.
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Be helpful if you further identified what ROM and build number you use.
Also do u have any mods installed e.g. Note 3 app package?
Don't let available RAM discourage you, Android is meant to use what's available to offer an improved user experience.
Overall, for me the upgrade to 4.3 from 4.1 is a large improvement. Assuming you're on stock 4.3 try a custom ROM. Try them all. That will keep you busy for a while
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Be helpful if you further identified what ROM and build number you use.
Also do u have any mods installed e.g. Note 3 app package?
Don't let available RAM discourage you, Android is meant to use what's available to offer an improved user experience.
Overall, for me the upgrade to 4.3 from 4.1 is a large improvement. Assuming you're on stock 4.3 try a custom ROM. Try them all. That will keep you busy for a while
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I use stock, never rooted and updated via OTA. No mods and I did not install anything new after the update. The reason I am concerned about the memory footprint is that it correlates with the performance - it's never great, but anything beyond 1.5Gb and it almost becomes unusable.
While I appreciate the advice, I don't want to go down the route of a custom rom, it should work fine with what the manufacturer provides who does not provide a downgrade option.
I anticipated that Samsung would bungle this too, that's why I could kick myself for installing this.
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I use stock, never rooted and updated via OTA. No mods and I did not install anything new after the update. The reason I am concerned about the memory footprint is that it correlates with the performance - it's never great, but anything beyond 1.5Gb and it almost becomes unusable.
While I appreciate the advice, I don't want to go down the route of a custom rom, it should work fine with what the manufacturer provides who does not provide a downgrade option.
I anticipated that Samsung would bungle this too, that's why I could kick myself for installing this.
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Yup, I'm picking up what you're laying down...
Keep in mind Samsung released sub par 4.3 builds to many users. Their later releases were vastly improved. Check your build number. Be aware that by rooting you can install a stock Rom that is the latest revision.
I get your stance on stock but given the reality, aren't you best served to take matters into your own hands?
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Yup, I'm picking up what you're laying down...
Keep in mind Samsung released sub par 4.3 builds to many users. Their later releases were vastly improved. Check your build number. Be aware that by rooting you can install a stock Rom that is the latest revision.
I get your stance on stock but given the reality, aren't you best served to take matters into your own hands?
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Cheers.
Well, OTA tells me that the latest update is installed so I presume that all their builds are bungled. I don't wish to void the warranty, or worse, brick the device with a custom ROM setup.
Installing and testing different roms until you find one that works is time consuming and I just want a working phone.
But you are right about taking matters into my own hands, I am going to the phone store tomorrow and check out what would suit me, Nexus perhaps or a Lumina.
As far as I am concerned, that was the first and last Samsung phone I have bought.
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Cheers.
Well, OTA tells me that the latest update is installed so I presume that all their builds are bungled. I don't wish to void the warranty, or worse, brick the device with a custom ROM setup.
Installing and testing different roms until you find one that works is time consuming and I just want a working phone.
But you are right about taking matters into my own hands, I am going to the phone store tomorrow and check out what would suit me, Nexus perhaps or a Lumina.
As far as I am concerned, that was the first and last Samsung phone I have bought.
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I would strongly suggest the HTC One or its soon to come successor. Wonderfully polished device and I would argue it's the most fluid Android phone around. It's certainly the most beautiful construction wise. Similarly I much prefer the sense ui over the ghastly samsung touchwiz ui.
Alternatively try a factory reset of your current, although this will be time consuming and, quite frankly, a pain in the ass.
Do a factory reset.
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I keep pondering whether to install CM11 and the dev work going on looks like its working well. I'm frankly sick of lag and the lack of smooth scrolling. I'm not rooted so I've not tried debloating it tbh.
However if I take the jump, is it easy enough to regress and reinstall kitkat/lollipop (when its ready)? I know it'll trip the knox counter but will reinstalling kitkat revert it back to OTA's?
I've been disappointed with Samsungs support of their top flight tablet to be honest. I keep being told bull about a fix is coming to address the lag and lack of smooth running but its not landed and I've now had 2 devices since July and they are as bad as each other.
thanks
Have you tried just using a different launcher. Like Nova.
Use nova and greenify. Greenify can hibernate apps so it can stop lag and save battery, it even works without root!
You should be able to revert back to stock without problems. Your flash counter will be incremented, but that's ok.
thanks will try greenify...is there a 'safe' list of apps to greenify ?
bonerp said:
thanks will try greenify...is there a 'safe' list of apps to greenify ?
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Pretty much every app listed in Greenify is safe to hibernate (unless you start checking a whole lotta checkboxes in the setings; in that case, you are expected to know what you're doing)
To be honest: I tried debloating, Greenifying, etc. all before, but even though they helped a lot, they did not get rid of ALL lag.
I can honestly say that I have been using CM11 for over a month and a half now and I still am very happy with the performance.
Batttery life is so-so, but ten again: I have forgotten what it was like on TW Plus, greenify recovers some of that battery anyway.
You should note that the CM11 development has somewhat died for the t700, which I personally think is really sad considering the age of this Samsung flagship tablet.
But the Rom and kernel that are available are pretty much bugfree as they are, so you can use it as a daily driver without a problem
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Pretty much every app listed in Greenify is safe to hibernate (unless you start checking a whole lotta checkboxes in the setings; in that case, you are expected to know what you're doing)
To be honest: I tried debloating, Greenifying, etc. all before, but even though they helped a lot, they did not get rid of ALL lag.
I can honestly say that I have been using CM11 for over a month and a half now and I still am very happy with the performance.
Batttery life is so-so, but ten again: I have forgotten what it was like on TW Plus, greenify recovers some of that battery anyway.
You should note that the CM11 development has somewhat died for the t700, which I personally think is really sad considering the age of this Samsung flagship tablet.
But the Rom and kernel that are available are pretty much bugfree as they are, so you can use it as a daily driver without a problem
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Is like prerooted? How does it go? I know you have to install gapps and the rom itself but my question is about the root.
It is pre-rooted, so all you need is a custom recovery and you can start
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It is pre-rooted, so all you need is a custom recovery and you can start
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Thanks!
Hi All
I have just preordered my Find 7 via Amazon UK
d7nku said:
Hi All
I have just preordered my Find 7 via Amazon UK
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I want to say you made a bad choice. The development via Stock ROM is very slow for the international release. You might get frustrated like most of the people at @ oppoforums
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I want to say you made a bad choice. The development via Stock ROM is very slow for the international release. You might get frustrated like most of the people at @ oppoforums
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While it is slow, it's by no means a bad phone. Especially if you install a rom on it
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I want to say you made a bad choice. The development via Stock ROM is very slow for the international release. You might get frustrated like most of the people at @ oppoforums
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Do you mean to say that just because the software update is not frequent or present I should not buy this phone?
d7nku said:
Do you mean to say that just because the software update is not frequent or present I should not buy this phone?
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That's really up to your preference. I like what MaxxAudio adds, and the stock camera more than exceeded my expectations. Flashing to a stock rom would lose both of those things. A lot of people in the CM12 / nameless thread praise the battery life but I've been getting similar SOT/standby times on stock without having to worry about the random instability bugs that are still coming up (1-3% overnight usually, and otherwise idle is about 0.75% an hour according to GSM - longest i've stretched it to was 70 hours standby with 4.5 hours SOT from watching Gin no Saji). As pretty as Lollipop looks, I don't really feel like it would affect my daily usage of the phone.
So decide for yourself. Screen is great, i love watching my shows on here. Can easily get through a 25 minute episode of w/e show i'm watching with only 3-4% each with H/W+ decoding, the 10 bit videos that require S/W decoding suck up about 8-9%. A 29 minute youtube video drained 7% the other day (kingdom come deliverance update). Listening to music is great too, having an SD card slot is nice compared to a lot of other flagships right now. Play a lot of Phoenix Wright on drasticDS these days, phone never really gets hot or anything and drains pretty slowly considering you're running an emulator. Listening to my audiobook over bluetooth to a speaker sips about 1% an hour while I'm working out on rings.
For the price, I don't think you will be disappointed, I certainly wasn't. But if using a stock rom, or playing around with custom roms often is something you want to do then it might be better to look elsewhere.
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Do you mean to say that just because the software update is not frequent or present I should not buy this phone?
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Absolutely not! IMO the phone is solid on it's own stock firmware. People here tend to believe if it ain't broke, fix it anyway. In a way the stock firmware out performs the custom roms at the moment because of the camera app, the Maxx audio, screen off gestures, the auto power on for an alarm. You can reasonably expect the software to update to Lolipop in March or so. I only just started messing around wit custom roms which leads me to the stock firmwares only downside In my opinion.
Oppo for some reason decided to limit the amount of storage available for apps. So forget about having both XCOM and Clash of clans on your phone at once. I am running Nameless Rom with unified storage so I'm happy now. But as soon as Lollipop ColorOS is released I'm going back to stock.
You made an excellent choice. There's talk of unified storage being in the next OTA update, so limited space for apps should be a thing of the past. If you're one of those Android obsessives desperately wanting lollipop then you will be disapointed with colorOS - they still haven't released OTA kitkat, let alone lollipop. But there are plenty of updated ROMs to manually flash. Personally, I'm perfectly content with my rooted colorOS - faultless, and who needs Viper when you've got MaxxAudio?
just wondering if anyone still uses KK on the tab or have you moved up to LP 5.0 or 5.1 ...
Monster212 said:
just wondering if anyone still uses KK on the tab or have you moved up to LP 5.0 or 5.1 ...
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I don't own tab but personally I think lollipop is a failed OS. Too bad for battery life although overall performance is better.
Back to kitkat N9005 Tweaked3.95 + LK3.17
My T800 ran for 260 days on kitkat without needing to be rebooted or tuned off even once now that is stability and i used it every day, when i did turn it off it was just to recalibrate the battery.
Too many reported problems with lollipop from less battery life, to lines on the screen, touchscreen problem, flash led problems, too much white in the stock apps and setting menu, stupid on an oled display.
I rooted my T800 and fixed the microsd problem, added AC3 support to the stock video player so why do i need kitkat, not saying i will not upgrade in the future to android m.
John.
I'm in the process of downgrade right now!
Ye i just flashed lollipop rom yesterday and now im rolling back to kk, i dont know if samsung is just trolling or what. you get a tiny status bar & notif panel then a blown up recent app manager, wtf? Plus no official xposed, and everything is just white & sky blue :/
A lot of people on SamMobile are saying that lollipop is a wasted update as it offers nothing new, and introduces a load of problems, also they are not happy at the way Samsung releases the updates.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/06/16/samsungs-software-update-policy-is-seriously-messed-up/
John.
For now, I believe they'll keep releasing 5.0 for older devices, and 5.1 for new ones.
Older models will always be one step behind, it's called marketing and forcing "impatient customers" to upgrade their device.
Although I notice these T700 and T800 5.0 versions keep getting patched with new updates and more stability, I believe we'll only get 5.1 when Android M is released for newer devices.
Then after 1, 2, or 3 years from release date and depending on each device, they are forgotten by the manufacturer and software updates are stopped, hoping you'll buy again a newer model, regardless of your device purchase date and condition.
And this in a way, explains why the XDA community is strong.
I finished downgrading. Tablet runs smoother, I can change many things in Xposed and generally, it just works.
Yeah, I choked on the lollipop, but i loved the chocolaty goodness of kitkat, stay on kitkat and don't be a sucker.
John.
hurdlejade said:
I finished downgrading. Tablet runs smoother, I can change many things in Xposed and generally, it just works.
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In my opinion, I'm on LP because I find it much smoother than KK.
The newer kernel and drivers on lollipop are the main reasons for better performance, which is easily seen in Antutu scores.
The only advantages I find in KK is that it's less buggy and ram leak is better.
When you say performance are you talking about gaming? , if so a lot of people don't game or only use simple games that don't require a great deal of system performance.
I don't game, and i have not seen any laginess on kitkat, i had it running 260 days without any problems i did not reset or shut-down a single time.
John.
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In my opinion, I'm on LP because I find it much smoother than KK.
The newer kernel and drivers on lollipop are the main reasons for better performance, which is easily seen in Antutu scores.
The only advantages I find in KK is that it's less buggy and ram leak is better.
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With LP you do need to reboot now and then due to ram leak problem.
Let's say LP is faster than KK at the beginning and after a few days it crawls due to ram leak, until you reboot and it's pristine again for the next days.
To be honest, while my initial reactions to Lollipop on both my TAB S and my Nexus 5 was less than favorable, after finding the right alternate ROMs I am very happy. Great performance (I don't game), great battery life, theming that allows me to black out the white menus and I'm very happy on both my devices. Would I be happy on stock? I don't know, and I understand not everyone wants to flash alternate ROMs. What I do think is that Lollipop takes a while to settle in and make sure you don't have an app that is incompatible (Samsung messed with ART). If you dive into it for only a couple of days, and you are really used to KitKat, of course you will want to go back. After using Lollipop for a while now, I would never go back.
Just my opinion. Not trying to sell anything to folks who disagree.
It`s great if you can tune lollipop the way you want, but most people cannot do this, and get stuck on a buggy stock rom until the next official update, which might never arrive, thank-you Samsung.
John.
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To be honest, while my initial reactions to Lollipop on both my TAB S and my Nexus 5 was less than favorable, after finding the right alternate ROMs I am very happy. Great performance (I don't game), great battery life, theming that allows me to black out the white menus and I'm very happy on both my devices. Would I be happy on stock? I don't know, and I understand not everyone wants to flash alternate ROMs. What I do think is that Lollipop takes a while to settle in and make sure you don't have an app that is incompatible (Samsung messed with ART). If you dive into it for only a couple of days, and you are really used to KitKat, of course you will want to go back. After using Lollipop for a while now, I would never go back.
Just my opinion. Not trying to sell anything to folks who disagree.
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Tend to agree. At first I wasn't keen on lollipop, but after using for a while and a little tweaking its running just fine. Dont know what this ram leak thing is all about as I've seen nothing of it. I would have thought, whatever that was, almost all manufacturers would have patched it by now including Samsung.
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Tend to agree. At first I wasn't keen on lollipop, but after using for a while and a little tweaking its running just fine. Dont know what this ram leak thing is all about as I've seen nothing of it. I would have thought, whatever that was, almost all manufacturers would have patched it by now including Samsung.
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I have lolipop on three devices Nexus 5&10 (5.1.1) and a Tab S 10.5 (5.0.2). Right from the beginning both tablets have been rock solid with a small but noticable bump in speed. On the other hand my Nexus 5 lost its rock solid kitkat stability and no matter what I do, short of re-flashing Kitkat, I cannot seem to fix it.
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Did you do an reset before or after updating to lollipop, as you say you have had no problems.
John.
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I have lolipop on three devices Nexus 5&10 (5.1.1) and a Tab S 10.5 (5.0.2). Right from the beginning both tablets have been rock solid with a small but noticable bump in speed. On the other hand my Nexus 5 lost its rock solid kitkat stability and no matter what I do, short of re-flashing Kitkat, I cannot seem to fix it.
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Did you do an reset before or after updating to lollipop, as you say you have had no problems.
John.
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Assuming you are asking about my Tab S experience, I used the guide in this forum to root without tripping Knox. I had to downgrade to stock Kitkat then root then upgrade to stock Lollipop. As soon as you downgrade using Odin you must do a factory reset in stock recovery, so yes I reset and always after the firmware change. In fact I've done the whole process several times as I've tried theming and every time I changed framework-res.apk it borked the UI and I need to do the whole process again.
At this time I've sworn off changing framework-res.apk. It is not a total write off as Flashfire back ups recover everything like a nadroid backup. Its weakness is that if you cannot start the app you can not do a restore. All that due to not wanting to loose my warranty on a two month old device so cannot flash a custom recovery like TWRP.
I did successfully flash from Lollipop B0E2 to B0E3 (boot, recover, system images) using Flashfire. That upgrade did not require a factory reset. In fact my user data, apps, root (SuperSU) and settings remained intact. All I need to do was re-flash any SuperSU policies I had previously installed along with any apps I installed in /system such as Viper4Android.
Specifically the upgrade and resulting experience was almost identical to upgrading Lollipop on my Nexus devices (5.0 through to 5.1.1), which is very easy and never required a factory reset. Although I usually clear the cache/dalvik just to be safe.