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Motorola S9 - White noise at higher volumes

I've just bought a pair of Motorola S9 headphones and whilst overall I'm pleased with them I have noticed one thing. At higher volumes (on the headset volume) there is audible white noise in the background. It is noticable when the transmitting device begins transmitting audio as there is a second or so before the music starts where the headphones go from absolutely silent to a faint hiss. It's also noticable on when listening to quieter songs. I've tried 3 different A2DP transmitting devices thinking they might be the cause of it but in each case the noise was present.
I wonder if other Motorola S9 owners could share whether their sets suffer the same problem?
Neil

Hi problem here
I got an S9 but I can't use it with my O2 XDA Exec. Too much skipping and stuttering. Some one told me that I would need the Broadcomm BT Stack. Which device are you using with S9. The HT820 doesn't have any of the problems u mentioned.
Ciao

I'm primarily using them with an Orange branded HTC TytN running Schap's 4.0 WM6 ROM. Compared with the original WM5 ROM that the phone came with bluetooth audio works flawlessly from both Windows Media player & HTC's Audio Manager except for the slight background noise. I must emphasize that the noise is faint and usually not noticable until you crank the volume up to a high level on the S9s. I've also tried them with a Belkin USB bluetooth dongle and the Broadcom stack and and iTech USB bluetooth dongle and the Bluesoleil v5 stack. Same result for all of them.
I'm just trying to figure out if this is usual or if I have a problem with my pair.
Thanks
Neil

Motorola S9 sweat problems?????????
Hi all, I wanted to share with all outdoor fans my bad experience with the Motorola S9.
First of all, I am a 42K Marathon runner.
Second, I can't run without music I know, I'm weird
Third, I needed a BT headset that was offered as "Sweatproof"
Before you guys to start laughing, I don't sweat oceans of salty water from my ears! I'm just the average guy...
Today, I've busted my third headset in 2 Months! (All of them gently replaced by Motorola warranty)
They gave me a refund telling me that there was no solution for the Summer season, since people sweats more than usual... (WTF)
Any other good BT headset to reccomend?
BTW, the sound quality was similar to heaven using my HTC Touch.
Thanks!

Same Problem - NOT sweatproof
I can concur, just yesterday my S9 stopped working. I can no longer turn the volume up but all other buttons work. I wouldn't recommend these to anyone as it neither works very well as a phone or a long term workout option. I was happy with the sound and how light they are so i think motorola are on to a good thing but some more "road" testing is needed.

commandersnake said:
Hi all, I wanted to share with all outdoor fans my bad experience with the Motorola S9.
First of all, I am a 42K Marathon runner.
Second, I can't run without music I know, I'm weird
Third, I needed a BT headset that was offered as "Sweatproof"
Before you guys to start laughing, I don't sweat oceans of salty water from my ears! I'm just the average guy...
Today, I've busted my third headset in 2 Months! (All of them gently replaced by Motorola warranty)
They gave me a refund telling me that there was no solution for the Summer season, since people sweats more than usual... (WTF)
Any other good BT headset to reccomend?
BTW, the sound quality was similar to heaven using my HTC Touch.
Thanks!
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Same problem here. I've gone through 4 of them in a month and a half. It is by far one of the worse purchases ever. It doesn't matter if it is a 2 mile run or a 20 mile run. The buttons just stop working and it takes 15 days to get a turn around replacement. Don't get the S9 if you plan on using them as they say "for active users." I've just decided to only use mine around the office. Get a different product because these are totally NOT worth it!

I was going to buy a Motorola S9 product, but after reading these review, I guess i'll keep looking for another one.
Any recommendation guys? I'm looking for a lightweight sleek BT Stereo headset mainly for listening to music on my HTC P3600 and laptop , I don't care too much about quality of sound, instead what matters to me most is being comfortable and lightweight.
Anything in mind??
Thanks in advance.

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I can concur, just yesterday my S9 stopped working. I can no longer turn the volume up but all other buttons work. I wouldn't recommend these to anyone as it neither works very well as a phone or a long term workout option. I was happy with the sound and how light they are so i think motorola are on to a good thing but some more "road" testing is needed.
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I know it's not the most glamourous option, but I wear a headband to sop up the sweat from my head so it doesn't run into the headset. I actually do sweat buckets and without the headband I quickly ruined traditional headphones.

Sony Ericsson Bluetooth headset bad signal reception

Hi guys I hope this isn't much of an offtopic, anyways, it seems there's lot of experienced people so I'll ask if you don't mind:
I'm having problems with my bluetooth HF (HBH-IV835)
I haven't been using it for over a year now I just pulled it out, charged to max and connected to my Topaz. The bad thing is; the headset seems to work fine, as far as I don't put the phone to the pocket of my pants and/or somewhere else just round the lower half of my body (while the headset is up in my ear) then the sound becomes distorted so much I hardly understand what the person I call actually says.
I the user's manual states the headset should work fine up to 4-5 meter distance (phone <-----> headset). This seems to be true but in fact when I put the phone in jeans and eventually put a jacket on the connection is so weak I don't understand the person I'm talking to on the phone.
So I'm considering buying a new one preferably from Samsung or whatever I find small, useful and stylish, the question is:
Is this a normal behavior of a bluetooth headset or all of them suck this way?
(I've tried using it with my mother's Sony Ericsson and the same happens exactly)..
I'd like to know before buying || Thanks a lot for replies

[Q] To anyone with Bluetooth headphones

I bought the One X because the bluetooth performance of the Sensation was pathetic, and worryingly it seems the X has the same problem somehow.
I find that when wearing my Plantronics Backbeat 902 headphones that the connection is broken by something so simple as turning my head away from the pocket (front top jacket). I can hold the phone in my hand and simply pinch the top corner next to the camera and SIM slot to totally kill the connection.
At first it seemed that it must be the headphones getting old because how could the One X have a problem so widely known from the previous flagship? Well my Galaxy Tab 8.9 has no such problem. I can hug the tab as much as I want and just TRY to kill the signal, it will not happen. I can walk two rooms away and keep listening to music but the One X fails even a half meter from me if I turn the wrong way.
Can anyone else verify this behaviour? It is not that I want it to be the case, perhaps mine is just broken (odd because the screen/battery seem fine!) but if HTC have failed on another antenna then I will very much want a refund because two flagships in a row off contract is just too much to forgive!

Hi,
One X and Samsung HS3000 - I have found that connection stays mostly good, with maybe one or two tiny glitches per song - perfectly listen-able, and not as bad as what you describe, but not as good as I would have hoped - I am going to see if it is due to using extreme quality spotify downloaded tracks I'm playing (since the HS3000 is aptX it should stream at that kind of bitrate). I'll try lower bitrate and see if that makes a difference.

seems to work fine with Nokia BH-505 but i got cut off around 10m away.
Tried with an iPod Touch and it's about the same distance.

With Sennheiser MM400, I get perfect reception, in a leather case, in my pocket however I turn my head. In open air I get around 10 metre range. Maybe your bluetooth antenna is defective. If it's in your pocket make sure the screen faces inwards to your body. Also the receiver in your headphones could be on either side, so switching pockets may help.
Don't forget, other devices may appear to have greater range if they are transmitting at a lower quality than the One X. Also, I guess it could be that some headphones struggle to cope with higher bit rates if they don't have much buffer memory.
I'm blown away by bluetooth stereo quality compared to my sensation. My headphones had been sitting gathering dust until now.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

Thanks very much for the replies, that helps a lot. I cannot believe this but it is the phone.
I remembered I have a PS3 headset by Sony, never failed me. I just called my girlfriend and from the distance of my hand to my ear while sitting down - not even holding at arms length - I can KILL the signal by pinching the corner where the front camera is.
I love this device, it is truly exceptional. But two HTC flagships in a row that I paid for outright have failed in the thing I use daily. I do not think I can face trying repair this time. Never helped my Sensation Bluetooth.
So that's two headsets by two brands, both work perfectly with any other device (and a Nexus S) but the two HTC phones just die when I use them.
Coincidence probably but after this much money, I am going to try to get my money back. Even paid for two years accidental damage warranty this time. Really quite unhappy about this now..
Again, thanks for the feedback.

nailerr said:
Thanks very much for the replies, that helps a lot. I cannot believe this but it is the phone.
I remembered I have a PS3 headset by Sony, never failed me. I just called my girlfriend and from the distance of my hand to my ear while sitting down - not even holding at arms length - I can KILL the signal by pinching the corner where the front camera is.
I love this device, it is truly exceptional. But two HTC flagships in a row that I paid for outright have failed in the thing I use daily. I do not think I can face trying repair this time. Never helped my Sensation Bluetooth.
So that's two headsets by two brands, both work perfectly with any other device (and a Nexus S) but the two HTC phones just die when I use them.
Coincidence probably but after this much money, I am going to try to get my money back. Even paid for two years accidental damage warranty this time. Really quite unhappy about this now..
Again, thanks for the feedback.
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Stating the obvious here but have you tried in multiple locations to rule out interference?
I'm about to test my headphones again and try pinching the corner as you described.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

familyhousing said:
Stating the obvious here but have you tried in multiple locations to rule out interference?
I'm about to test my headphones again and try pinching the corner as you described.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
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Nope, can't replicate it. In fact the only way I can get any loss if quality at all is to walk 10m away. Looks like you got a duff phone.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

familyhousing said:
Nope, can't replicate it. In fact the only way I can get any loss if quality at all is to walk 10m away. Looks like you got a duff phone.
Stating the obvious here but have you tried in multiple locations to rule out interference?
I'm about to test my headphones again and try pinching the corner as you described.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
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Overly. Though more specifically right now, no. Which is why I can say a Samsung telephone or tablet work with the Plantronics or Sony headsets where the Sensation and One X do not. Same location, would have to be super specific interference.
I ride to and from work 6 days a week, and often between. This is why I use A2DP headphones for music or podcasts, sometimes calls. The amount of ground I cover should rule out any localised problems.
The most bizarre thing I can say is that out the box it seemed to be perfect, I was relieved. Since 2 weeks or so it has just dropped into a near non functional state. I would willingly say the power in my house was at fault but that has left so many other devices alone, including my girlfriends iPhone 4 and Nexus S.
I also tinker with tech a lot, just not down at the electronics level, so right now I feel I have tried everything (again) and been as good to the device as I could be, and just really, really unlucky.
Evidentially not all units are at fault so I will not play that stupid card of "HTC Can't make phones!" that some do when they have an issue, but you must understand I feel pretty ripped off nonetheless by now!

pleased I found this thread as I also seem to have the exact same problem. I have a fairly old Sony Bluetooth stereo headset that I used with my desire without any issues, with my one x if I move more than a metre away or place my hand between the devices they stutter and stop. I hate to think my phone is faulty as it seems fine in all other respects and reading the other stories that is fairly rare at the moment. I am happy to try other headsets as this one is quite old but if it is definetly a phone issue the sooner I sort things the better. does anyone have suggestions on things to try

scointer said:
pleased I found this thread as I also seem to have the exact same problem. I have a fairly old Sony Bluetooth stereo headset that I used with my desire without any issues, with my one x if I move more than a metre away or place my hand between the devices they stutter and stop. I hate to think my phone is faulty as it seems fine in all other respects and reading the other stories that is fairly rare at the moment. I am happy to try other headsets as this one is quite old but if it is definetly a phone issue the sooner I sort things the better. does anyone have suggestions on things to try
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Not specifically, but if you do try something new (mine are also old - but work perfectly with other devices) please do report back. I'd love to keep this phone but a repair will invalidate my option for refund.

HOX on 1.2.9 and no issues at all, I'm using it alongside the HS3000 and connection is rock solid. Phone in pocket, and HS3000 clipped to my shirt. Even maintains a solid connection whilst using the London Underground.
However was in PC World and had major interruptions due to the various invisible signals in that store.
Generally it's fine, streaming via Spotify using Extreme Quality and via Poweramp.

nikzDHD said:
HOX on 1.2.9 and no issues at all, I'm using it alongside the HS3000 and connection is rock solid. Phone in pocket, and HS3000 clipped to my shirt. Even maintains a solid connection whilst using the London Underground.
However was in PC World and had major interruptions due to the various invisible signals in that store.
Generally it's fine, streaming via Spotify using Extreme Quality and via Poweramp.
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I am slightly curious to see if the different BT revisions are at play - but that is super hard to work out.
Both my headsets are 2.1 devices, Sensation was 3.0 and One x is 4.0. The phones that worked properly are 2.1+EDR. But the Galaxy tab is 3.0 and works perfectly. So...
I am still thinking internal antenna of phone.

nailerr said:
I am slightly curious to see if the different BT revisions are at play - but that is super hard to work out.
Both my headsets are 2.1 devices, Sensation was 3.0 and One x is 4.0. The phones that worked properly are 2.1+EDR. But the Galaxy tab is 3.0 and works perfectly. So...
I am still thinking internal antenna of phone.
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It should be backwards compatible. But you got 2 headsets and tested on various devices so the BT in the phone might not be all that.
Have you tried updating your firmware? Do you have the latest 1.2.9?

nikzDHD said:
It should be backwards compatible. But you got 2 headsets and tested on various devices so the BT in the phone might not be all that.
Have you tried updating your firmware? Do you have the latest 1.2.9?
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It's 1.29.x.x but yeah. I did wonder if that was at play, forgot to ask what other people were running earlier since when mine was working properly it was 1.26 but I cannot place where the problem began as I was busy/sick/away.

UPDATE : ok tried in the same place with my old sony HBH DS970 headset and major cut out if i cover headset or top of phone or walk more than a metre away.
Tried exactly the same with my turtle beach px5 headset (which has blutooth obviously) and everything is much better walked 5 metres no problems, covered phone with no real problem (did glitch just once).
I am running 1.28 T-mobile branded so now need to narrow down if certain types of profile or headset brands are the problem.
Pity I really like my sony headset

scointer said:
UPDATE : ok tried in the same place with my old sony HBH DS970 headset and major cut out if i cover headset or top of phone or walk more than a metre away.
Tried exactly the same with my turtle beach px5 headset (which has blutooth obviously) and everything is much better walked 5 metres no problems, covered phone with no real problem (did glitch just once).
I am running 1.28 T-mobile branded so now need to narrow down if certain types of profile or headset brands are the problem.
Pity I really like my sony headset
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Thanks, adding some interesting details there.

so next question....can anyone recommend some cheap (£50ish) portable headset that works well with HTC one x and sound reasonable.

Would love to help you out there but clearly not in the situation. I was also looking into a new set with Apt-X (as the X supports it) but settled on none before realising the phone was a bust unit.

No problems with my HOX as well and i use 2 headsets (depends which one is charged) : Plantronics and Nokia.I don't have any problems with them so far and i keep my phone preety far from the headset.

I find that with my Creative WP-350 headset and my phone in my jean pocket, if I put my hand in my pocket over my phone I get the occasional break in the connection but that's the only situation is happens and is fairly avoidable.

[Q] Sony smart wireless headset pro - anyone tryed yet?

Hello guys, have anyone yet try it with HOX? I am looking forward to getting it but I am just not sure about music quality, because that is a main function for me, so I would like to know if anyone tested it with HOX already, and how is music from default sony earplugs that are included there, comparing to let's say iBeats by Dr.Dre (the ones that was included with HTC Sensation XE)
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/smart-wireless-headset-pro/specifications/
any info would be greatly appreciated!!

cozmer said:
Hello guys, have anyone yet try it with HOX? I am looking forward to getting it but I am just not sure about music quality, because that is a main function for me, so I would like to know if anyone tested it with HOX already, and how is music from default sony earplugs that are included there, comparing to let's say iBeats by Dr.Dre (the ones that was included with HTC Sensation XE)
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/smart-wireless-headset-pro/specifications/
any info would be greatly appreciated!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672411
Personally I simply love it, no issues so far and already tried with various custom rom's (currently at maXimus 2.1)
Also recently it got a firmware update (notification came from the phone) but I haven seen the change log yet.
The quality of the bundled ear-buds is more than enough to my likening, also have Klipsch s4 and M40 but often find myself just using those from sony, go figure

Ch3vy78 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672411
Personally I simply love it, no issues so far and already tried with various custom rom's (currently at maXimus 2.1)
Also recently it got a firmware update (notification came from the phone) but I haven seen the change log yet.
The quality of the bundled ear-buds is more than enough to my likening, also have Klipsch s4 and M40 but often find myself just using those from sony, go figure
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what's the price?

daniele610 said:
what's the price?
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price is arround 150$ i think

daniele610 said:
what's the price?
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cozmer said:
price is arround 150$ i think
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€119.95 in NL from the PDAShop.nl

What about the a-jays one+?
It doesn't have as much features as the sony, but I think its comparable to the iBeats that come with the sensation

OriginalFire said:
What about the a-jays one+?
It doesn't have as much features as the sony, but I think its comparable to the iBeats that come with the sensation
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and they are not wireless... arent they??
headset i am talking about is wireless if u didn't notice...

cozmer said:
and they are not wireless... arent they??
headset i am talking about is wireless if u didn't notice...
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Sorry my mistake.
There's the Plantronics BackBeat GO. If your looking for wireless.

I have had the Xperia MH1C Smart Wireless headset pro for about a week now, so I will do a mini review.
Pros
Wireless- Works pretty well, bluetooth can skip every once in a while, but it is so rare it doesn't bother me at all. It connects really easily and auto pairs great.
Micro SD slot- I love this feature as I bike alot and would rather take a small device then lug around my phone.
Package Contents- You get a charger, microsd reader, headphones, micro usb cord, 2gb card, and the device itself for 100 bucks. Considering a decent microsd reader costs 15-20 dollars it is a pretty good deal.
Headphones- I have always liked Sony's headphones and have used them for years. These are no exception, the bass is clear and the treble is not too loud. You can't even begin to compare cheap headphones like the Skull Candys to these. I don't believe in spending a ton on earbud headphones and these fell right in the price range for what I want. They fit great even with my smaller ear canals. People have complained about the cord being stiff, but I think it's a great step forward. My problem has always been tearing the cord or getting it really tangled. This cord will be hard as hell to tear as it is really tough. Also it feels really good. My trick for wearing them is to use the supplied clip on the longer right earbud cord and attach the clip to the rear collar of my shirt. This makes it impossible to pull the right earbud out when turning your head. I have played golf and ridden my bike with them and had no issues whatsoever.
Looks- Some people might think it is ugly but I think it looks great. Similar to the Xperia S.
Battery Life- The device easily lasts a week for me
Software works good- no problem with the additional features
Cons
SD Card playback sucks. Sometimes it will recognize the whole album and sometimes it won't. It is also kind of slow when going through songs, but not too bad. Also sometimes it won't return to the previous track when using the button, the left button does play/pause instead.
Gmail App for it will destroy your battery, it really eats battery life.
Size- The device could be a bit smaller, but for the sound quality and features it is acceptable
Needs a carrying case, Sony should have included one for the price
The clip is sturdy but it would be nice if it rotated as well.
Should have come with a lanyard but I was able to find an old one I had laying around and use that with it. It is an iRiver lanyard and works really good.

I would like to compare my experiences with the Sony Smart Wireless Headset Pro with mrsatan's review. As a quick summary though I'd say - DON'T BUY THIS OVERPRICED PIECE OF JUNK!
I fully agree that the SWHP device completely sucks as an MP3 player. It doesn't copy files across properly to the SD card just connecting via USB - you need to use Sony's useless Media Go application to do it and that is a terrible experience in itself.
Despite saying it supports up to a 32GB SD card, I have only half filled a 16GB an already the MP3 playback is completely lost. It takes a VERY long time to "scan" the files before you can start playback and then it doesn't even recognise songs within albums, playing the first song of the album and then stopping after that with no ability to skip to or even browse the other tracks. It does exactly the same when trying to play all the tracks of one artist - only plays the first then stops dead.
If you press the forward skip button it just pauses the track. When cycling back through the entire list of songs (which it can't do properly, rebooting itself once you try to go back past the first song in the list (which isn't alphabetical BTW)), you need to press the back skip button twice to go back.
I used to have the Sony MW600 (previous model that was only a BT headset/FM radio without MP3 support) and I would have to say even that was better as a BT headset because at least the call and voice command functions worked with that. Most of the time the SWHP doesn't even answer an incoming call when you press the button as it says you're supposed to.
I was waiting a long time for this device to get released and now I can see why it was delayed so long but still wonder why it was released at all when even the most basic functions do not work at all. I strongly suggest that you choose a different device if you were considering buying this P.O.S..

[Q] Xperia Arc compatible headsets?

Hi friends,
I have been using Xperia Arc since July 2011.............the MH650 headset that came with the phone is really good.........but now i notice that the volume in the right part is very low and i do not get good stereo quality now.............so can you suggest any good 2012 Sony in ear headset that can deliver good bass and treble..............i was interested in Live hi fi headset but it seems it is compatible only with xperia arc and nothing else due to the audio connecter model used...............thanks..............

I can say live sound is superb and it's unfortunate that it only works with 2011 xperias, but I use another pair of earphones, which i got for 10 dollars from ebay, for everything else. If you want one pair of headset that works with everything (not just 2011 xperia), you have to buy an adapter from ebay or something

thanks you friend........don't know this happens always with headsets..........the volume drops in one side..........i also use the same headset for my VAIO LAPTOP...........will this be the reason?............due to some voltage varaitions.............am not sure,,,,,,,

vipinrahul said:
thanks you friend........don't know this happens always with headsets..........the volume drops in one side..........i also use the same headset for my VAIO LAPTOP...........will this be the reason?............due to some voltage varaitions.............am not sure,,,,,,,
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I use MH650 headset daily aswell.
I have no problems with it on my Arc S, however using it on my laptop, then I need to insert it not fully, but a bit out, in order to have proper quality.
Try your headset on different devices with different placement. Then you should find your answer.

yes friend..i also insert it onla bit when using my laptop...........have been using for few months......no issues at all........but few days ago i noticed the sound level is low on the right side..........it is like that now also..........so am wondering whether to get a new headset............

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I use MH650 headset daily aswell.
I have no problems with it on my Arc S, however using it on my laptop, then I need to insert it not fully, but a bit out, in order to have proper quality.
Try your headset on different devices with different placement. Then you should find your answer.
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will the MH750 work with Xperia Arc? I do not want to go for Live hi-fi as i cannot use it for other phones. so do not want to spend lot of money on it. now 2 options are mh650 or mh750.