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Headphones

Hello!
Thread especially made for headphone segment of the Xperia X8.
Also if you need help with picking a headphones for your phone post here,
i'll help if i can.
P.S.Sennheiser CX500 G4ME arriving in 2weeks so i'll pop a review and comparison beetwen the stock one and these.

I just got my X8 today and tried using it with my aftermarket iPhone ones and found they didn't work at all.
It works with the included headphones of course, but they're not very good (they don't even hold in my ears very well, which is a worry when I'm hoping to use them while running or cycling) and it works with ordinary (no microphone) 3.5mm headphones.
The plug of the iPhone headphones looks similar to the one of the Sony headphones but for some reason the X8 completely ignores them, it doesn't even send sound to the earphones let alone take microphone input.
Meanwhile, the Sony ones work on my iPod but they're extremely quiet.
Can someone confirm that this is in fact true generally, not just for my (two pairs of) iPhone headphones which I tried?
Is there any way I can get iPhone headphones to work with it (desirable because these earphones are easy to find and buy, relatively cheap and with wide choice) or do I have to stick with special Sony ones?
A major reason behind me getting my new phone was that I was sick of the crap Nokia pulled with my old phone requiring proprietary headphones with their connector. It's nice that the X8 works with standard non-microphone 3.5mm earphones, but what's the deal with microphone ones?

I use this nokia headphones for my xperia. Mic works as well as call button. All other nokia headphones with volume control won't work!
Xperia has unique jack for headphones with music controls...and I hate them for that! Original ones for music player are too expensive

I use the same ones as they're great for skype!

I1m using sennheiser HD 518 and they are great !!

Stock X8 headphones are sh%t.
Previously, I had a SE W810i Walkman and I must say, that hearing to the music (with stock headphones) was a real pleasure - very close to iPhone IMO.
So, when I bought X8, I was truly unsatisfied.
Then I decided to buy OEM SE MH810 stereo - AFAIK it comes with Xperia X10 mini Pro. That was a good choice - quite goood sound quality and I can control music player app (volume up/down, next/previous, play/pause).

I bought the mh810 and i use them while cycling.
The headphones are excellent. Its a shame they don't work on the big x10
I got mine for £12 off ebay
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Has anyone tried something like this - bluetooth stereo headphones?

i used to use blue-tooth stereo headphones on my mobile previously but a different model from those. i found there was quite high battery drain, but that might have been just my phone..

DrMokusatsu said:
I just got my X8 today and tried using it with my aftermarket iPhone ones and found they didn't work at all.
It works with the included headphones of course, but they're not very good (they don't even hold in my ears very well, which is a worry when I'm hoping to use them while running or cycling) and it works with ordinary (no microphone) 3.5mm headphones.
The plug of the iPhone headphones looks similar to the one of the Sony headphones but for some reason the X8 completely ignores them, it doesn't even send sound to the earphones let alone take microphone input.
Meanwhile, the Sony ones work on my iPod but they're extremely quiet.
Can someone confirm that this is in fact true generally, not just for my (two pairs of) iPhone headphones which I tried?
Is there any way I can get iPhone headphones to work with it (desirable because these earphones are easy to find and buy, relatively cheap and with wide choice) or do I have to stick with special Sony ones?
A major reason behind me getting my new phone was that I was sick of the crap Nokia pulled with my old phone requiring proprietary headphones with their connector. It's nice that the X8 works with standard non-microphone 3.5mm earphones, but what's the deal with microphone ones?
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Confirmed. SE stock does not work with IPods, well you could make it work by pulling the connector out a little. It's due to the speaker part of the connector is differently recognized by SE and Apple. My apple headphones broke down a long time ago so can't test.

OEM SE headphones that come out of the box with W810i work pretty well, but the wire is short.

Charmed :) said:
I use this nokia headphones for my xperia. Mic works as well as call button. All other nokia headphones with volume control won't work!
Xperia has unique jack for headphones with music controls...and I hate them for that! Original ones for music player are too expensive
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can i know wat version is that? and also.. can u use for receiving call without touch the phone?
Case87 said:
I1m using sennheiser HD 518 and they are great !!
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same question.. can u use for receiving incoming call without sliding the phone
sanefirst said:
Stock X8 headphones are sh%t.
Previously, I had a SE W810i Walkman and I must say, that hearing to the music (with stock headphones) was a real pleasure - very close to iPhone IMO.
So, when I bought X8, I was truly unsatisfied.
Then I decided to buy OEM SE MH810 stereo - AFAIK it comes with Xperia X10 mini Pro. That was a good choice - quite goood sound quality and I can control music player app (volume up/down, next/previous, play/pause).
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the worst thing is,,, none in my country selling that..
hope because i doesn.t find the shop yet...

cuecak said:
can i know wat version is that? and also.. can u use for receiving call without touch the phone?
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Model is HS-45, AD-57
http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/accessories/all-accessories/headsets/wired-headsets/hs-45-ad-57
yes, you can answer the phone with button on the headset!
cuecak said:
the worst thing is,,, none in my country selling that..
hope because i doesn.t find the shop yet...
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you can find it on ebay!
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-GENUINE-SONY-ERICSSON-MH810-X10-MINI-PRO-YENDO-X8-/190516441106?pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item2c5baa3012#ht_1128wt_1139

cuecak said:
can i know wat version is that? and also.. can u use for receiving call without touch the phone?
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You can install AutoAnswer and use stock earphones.

air.surfer said:
You can install AutoAnswer and use stock earphones.
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Yes,but if someone calls and you don't wanna answer?

I'm aleady using Jabra BT620s bluetooth headset and its realy good.

sanefirst said:
Stock X8 headphones are sh%t.
Previously, I had a SE W810i Walkman and I must say, that hearing to the music (with stock headphones) was a real pleasure - very close to iPhone IMO.
So, when I bought X8, I was truly unsatisfied.
Then I decided to buy OEM SE MH810 stereo - AFAIK it comes with Xperia X10 mini Pro. That was a good choice - quite goood sound quality and I can control music player app (volume up/down, next/previous, play/pause).
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Just ordered one from ebay

i use headphones from Galaxy S and i like what i hear , the stock headphones are kinda mizerable.

hi i use my xperia x8 with bluetooth headphone hbh-ds205 and everthing work fine for me

wait till w8 comes and buy the head phone which is bundled with it... simple

iBeats headphone issue

Hi Guys.i have got a ibeats headphone from inside the htc sensation xe.But it doesnt work with arc s.When I connected the headset phone give error.it say unsupported device.what can i do about this issue?
Sorry for my english.Thanks

magicli said:
Hi Guys.i have got a ibeats headphone from inside the htc sensation xe.But it doesnt work with arc s.When I connected the headset phone give error.it say unsupported device.what can i do about this issue?
Sorry for my english.Thanks
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Any kind of headphones with a Talk Controller or microphone will not work with Sony Ericsson devices. Sony did something to the AUX port and its connections are inverted or something. I read a while back when i bought my pair of Dr.Dre beats.
I just got my LiveSound Headset and it does the same thing on my Asus Transformer like the DreBeats did on my Sony Ericsson. Great set of headphones Much better then Dr.Dre Beats and cheaper too.

I solved the problem.i sold my arc s and i bought galaxy s 2.Now i'm very happy with my phone and headphones.
Thanks for reply @rsingh612

magicli said:
I solved the problem.i sold my arc s and i bought galaxy s 2.Now i'm very happy with my phone and headphones.
Thanks for reply @rsingh612
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WoW what a solution

iPhone+BlackBerry and SE+Nokia are using different standards for pin-outs on headphone jacks, so you have to change either headset, or headphones..
i hate all those companies for doing this kind of thing to us

HSNalfar3 said:
WoW what a solution
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Yeah...
I think I'm going to tosh around a few hundred bucks for a new phone, because I don't like Arc's default ringtones.

iridaki said:
Yeah...
I think I'm going to tosh around a few hundred bucks for a new phone, because I don't like Arc's default ringtones.
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I'm going to sell mine because I don't like the wallpapers.

Haha, cazy and funny solution
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Is it so hard to use the Standard SE cable with mic/switch and plug in whatever headphones to that? For crying out loud! That's what I do and EVERY single pair of headphones that had issues does not do it if you plug them in that way! For now though, I found some nice ear buds that were for the xperia pure, I use them with the standard cable and the sound quality is fantastic.

There is a APK somewhere in SYSTEM folder that detects the unsupported headphone have someone tried to delete it and test it? Atleast we can get the headphones to work

Would this problem also occur when using my own headphones? (original iBeats, not from htc)

try to find a neutral stereo plug, they're included in marshal or urbanears headphone
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make an adapter... every manufacture only invert, and change the position
(download electrodroid from market, theres many port mapping)
re-route using adapter
sorry for bad english

There is a software solution for this?
say, a modding or something?
or just selling the same S Arc? lol
thank you

u can try to modify hardware

I ordered an MH1 LiveSound Headset in white for 19.99GBP and 1.99GBP shipping off eBay yesterday and they came today. The flat anti tangle cable is way better than the iBeats cable & the mic/control unit is a better quality than the iBeats, the sound quality is way better than the stock black headset that comes in the box of the Arc S and I would say it's on a par with the Audio quality of the iBeats. I've got the LiveKey set up to launch Play Music via LiveKey Launchee that's available in the Play Store, I might set it up to control Track ID or FM Radio as the Music Control feature on the LiveView kind of makes it obsolete, as there is no propper Music Control on the MH1s other than Volume & Play/Pause using the middle button.
I chose the white MH1s only on the grounds that they go nicely with my white Arc S. I tried using the white headset that came with my X8 but the sound was really poor compared with the black headset that comes with the Arc S.
Roland
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magicli said:
I solved the problem.i sold my arc s and i bought galaxy s 2.Now i'm very happy with my phone and headphones.
Thanks for reply @rsingh612
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Thanks for the tip ...
I solved the problem also, I bought a HTC Sensation XE lol
like device.
thank you

[Q] ION earphones w/ mic

Ok so I saw this from the Xperia S board
Splinter153 said:
Hi Guys
So after painstakingly reading through every message in this thread to ensure I do not paste a duplicate answer, I can inform you I have found the true problem regarding headphones.
Straight from the words of a Sony technician:
The cause of the incompatibility: Sony Xperia S supply 2V (Volts) purely from an energy consumption perspective. The microphone in the boundled Sony Mobile headset is Electret microphones that only require a 2V feed. For other suppliers (e.g. IPhones headsets) they can use MEMS microphones that require a minimum of 2,7V.
In order for fully compatibility, Sony smartphones need to supply a minimum of 2,7V. This requires a feature/HW change.
A feature/HW change has been submitted to be implemented in coming products.
So moral of the story is, Sony screwed us all...
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Does this mean I can't use a mic similar to my X10? I tried using them earlier and I now know they dont work with my ION because Sony went with the CTIA format. So what do you guys use for a mic? I'm wanting to use a mic similar to the one that came with the X10, by that I mean I want to be able to plug in any earphones I want with the mic since earphones eventually break with one side not working. Thanks.

I'll check the ones I have. I have a set I got from my dell streak and the ones from my xperia s.
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thanks because I use google hangouts with friends but the ion isn't exactly loud, even with xloud on

May not be exactly what you're looking for but I use Skullcandy Ink'd earbuds with the mic.
http://www.skullcandy.com/shop/headphones/earphones-and-earbuds/inkd
I've used these for probably the last 2 years, great sound quality, full refund too if they stop working, only thing I've had happen to mine were one of the buds stops working. Pretty durable for the price, I've only broken 1 pair from skateboarding/biking. Also most stores will carry them for $15 instead of $25 like listed on the site.

Tried the generic ones I got with my Dell Streak and they worked....gotta find my Xperia S headphones to try.

I think you should try out the Sony LiveSound Hi-Fi Headset, it cost a little bit of money but it sounds awesome! Comes with an in-line mic with built-in remote.
I personally use the Sony MW600 Stereo Bluetooth Headset, no wires extending to your phone in your pocket. just a short earbud wire that wraps around your neck. you can also disconnect the supplied wire and use a 3mm wire to plug into a stereo or your car's aux so you're completely hands free and the sound comes out of car's speakers.
Both of these are available on the Sony mobile online store, probably sold cheaper on amazon.

so the ION does support earphone's with mic and you guys have all tried out the mic ? sry for this question, I got my phone from best buy and so it didn't come with the earphones. Instead I've been using my earphones from my X10 and with the ION using the new standard and with the quote from my first post I was thinking that the ION didn't support the mic in earphone combo

I used the HTC buds that come with some of there WP7 devices. Worked like a charm.
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Auggy99 said:
so the ION does support earphone's with mic and you guys have all tried out the mic ? sry for this question, I got my phone from best buy and so it didn't come with the earphones. Instead I've been using my earphones from my X10 and with the ION using the new standard and with the quote from my first post I was thinking that the ION didn't support the mic in earphone combo
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Yeah it works with earbyds with inline mics just have to find one that has the new setup.
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xxolvrdrmxx said:
I think you should try out the Sony LiveSound Hi-Fi Headset, it cost a little bit of money but it sounds awesome! Comes with an in-line mic with built-in remote.
I personally use the Sony MW600 Stereo Bluetooth Headset, no wires extending to your phone in your pocket. just a short earbud wire that wraps around your neck. you can also disconnect the supplied wire and use a 3mm wire to plug into a stereo or your car's aux so you're completely hands free and the sound comes out of car's speakers.
Both of these are available on the Sony mobile online store, probably sold cheaper on amazon.
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From what I read, the LiveSound headset doesn't fully work on the 2012 Xperia phones. There's another pair called Smart headset that are fully compatible with the ion. They're basically the same set other than that.
I just ordered the MW600 headset, the design reminded me alot of the old Sony MiniDisc Walkman remotes. Seems really slick.

I have the Smart wireless headset pro MW1. They work great and the audio quality is awesome for music and calls.

I just didn't want to buy a pair that the ion wouldn't support, but I'll have to look and see which to get. I wan't the skullcandy ink'd 2 pair but idk if they'll work. time for some more research

Headphone with Mic?

I get a far too much static feed back when I try to use my stock headphones that came with my x10 when I use them with my Ion. Does anyone have a suggestion for a different set?
I like to use them when I drive and need to make phone calls

keepitsimpleidiot said:
I get a far too much static feed back when I try to use my stock headphones that came with my x10 when I use them with my Ion. Does anyone have a suggestion for a different set?
I like to use them when I drive and need to make phone calls
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Hmm I've used ones from my Dell Streak, Xperia S and now using the Smart Wireless Headset Pro and haven't had static issues with any of them.

keepitsimpleidiot said:
I get a far too much static feed back when I try to use my stock headphones that came with my x10 when I use them with my Ion. Does anyone have a suggestion for a different set?
I like to use them when I drive and need to make phone calls
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lol I had this same problem as well. basically, the ion's audio jack is a newer format(used in iphone's), meaning the mic/earphone that came with the x10 are not supported since they used an older version.

Auggy99 said:
lol I had this same problem as well. basically, the ion's audio jack is a newer format(used in iphone's), meaning the mic/earphone that came with the x10 are not supported since they used an older version.
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Makes sense. I ended up getting a pair of skullcandy ear buds with a mic. they seem to work pretty well

Using a $5 pair from... Five Below, they work perfectly.
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Auggy99 said:
lol I had this same problem as well. basically, the ion's audio jack is a newer format(used in iphone's), meaning the mic/earphone that came with the x10 are not supported since they used an older version.
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Same jack like in iPhone, but does not support white iphone headphones with volume control :/
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I don't know about this being a new format jack ..... the three ring 1/8" jack has been around for a long time. Left, right and Mic contacts, its pretty standard.
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I thing the ones that came with my ion are really great. the only thing i would want is the ability to use voice controls on the mic. But pause music, last song and next song work fine.

About Headphones

sony ericson has a very unlikely earphones, u cant use mic-enabled headphones brands other than the original
but, awhile ago, i was going home, headphones on (without mic) and then my mom called, i answered it, and aint notice that i put the phone back in my pocket, but guess what, i can answer the call, without the mic...
have u ever tried this? or its just me? now i tried to record my voice, earphones on without mic then i put my phone as far as it can get and it records, pretty distorted but, it can!
Xperia Pro
Xperia Ultimate HD 3.0.2
im using SoundMagic ES18 earphones

AW: About Headphones
RadarZgin said:
sony ericson has a very unlikely earphones, u cant use mic-enabled headphones brands other than the original
but, awhile ago, i was going home, headphones on (without mic) and then my mom called, i answered it, and aint notice that i put the phone back in my pocket, but guess what, i can answer the call, without the mic...
have u ever tried this? or its just me? now i tried to record my voice, earphones on without mic then i put my phone as far as it can get and it records, pretty distorted but, it can!
Xperia Pro
Xperia Ultimate HD 3.0.2
im using SoundMagic ES18 earphones
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Your phone has a mic,too
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Kayserili38 said:
Your phone has a mic,too
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i knew it has, that's why when im trying to record, i put it far as it can get, said somthing repeatly in really low voice, well, i cant confirm, could u try?

i try to use earhone of my Arc S in my mp3 player and don't work XD.....it's a very strange!

dott.cunchelli said:
i try to use earhone of my Arc S in my mp3 player and don't work XD.....it's a very strange!
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you must hold the call button in your headset. Pretty annoying, but works, even on new sony devices, htc, blackberry... (iPhone auto-detect which headset type automatically, magic!)

OMTP vs CTIA headsets
Hey there,
just to avoid confusion... see my comment over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39623224&postcount=10937
Xperia 2011 devices follow the OMTP standard.
Use headset for OMTP accordingly.
While Xperia 2012 will follow the CTIA from now on.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/02/27/2012-xperia-range-uses-different-3-5mm-headset-standard/
Cheers,
scholbert