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HTC warranty not being honoured.

Hi guys, any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
Last week I plugged my touch pro 2 in to charge. The phone was on and working fine, but the charging light would not come on.
So HTC collected my phone for repair...
Today I phoned to get the latest information and they want £160 to replace the motherboard or £11 to have the phone returned to be unrepaired. Apparently I have been running an illegal firmware and this has voided my warranty. I updated by firmware many times before settling on the one I was happy with, but it seems the one I settled with wasn't the official one. The guy quoted me SPL - 0.85.0-x.......... and said that it was a bit weird but that was why I had to pay.
So I told him that the firmware had been running fine for many months and I wanted to know the exact registry tweak that had broken the motherboard. Anyway I said I didnt accept that the firmware had anything to do with the hardware failure and would be refusing to pay.. I also gave them the sob story that I have had a new HTC phone every year for the past 7 years and have recommended many customers to them.
Where do I stand with this? I have threatened to go to the small claims court, but really just want my phone fixed for free as soon as possible.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated..
Andy

Honestly you asked for this. You are going to have to pay for the repair. You sent in a phone with a cracked ROM and expect them to fix anything? No way in hell will they do it for free.

when you say a cracked rom do you just mean a rom that is available on this forum?
I accept that it isn't an official rom. but it is unrelated to the issue of a phone not charging.

Unfortunately this is the norm... They can't prove your cooked ROM caused it, you can't prove it didn't. What they can prove is that you are not running the ROM they gave you and I'm sure somewhere in the T&C there's legalese about that voiding the warranty.
COULD someone write a program which interferes with charging? I'd bet so, people around here write some amazing stuff. This is not to make any accusations that someone has written any malicious code, simply that it COULD likely be done, therefore I seriously doubt you have much recourse. You could get lucky, but I suspect you're just hosed.. Sucks.
And in reality, you could send the phone in for ANY failure and they discover such things and void the warranty.
I guess you could buy extra/larger batteries and charge them in a charger and swap them as they die. Not the best solution, but at least you don't have to shell out lots of money.

well i've just sent a very professional email to customer services.
tweiss 3, you have a very negative outlook. HTC market their phones on being individual, and indeed this is why so many of us buy them over Iphones. However I took the individuality to the limit by installing a custom firmware. I am extremely confident that a ROM from this forum and a respected chef at that, would not include a registry hack that has any effect upon the charging system of the phone. And have asked them for the evidence that this is the cause of the hardware malfunction.
Positive thinking goes along way as well I feel.
Season's greetings to all of you.

Take them to court. The whole thing rediculous. Depending on your country this might actually be illegal.
I lawyered up when they tried to pull this on me, and guess who got his phone back fixed for free?

Its not that i'm negative, but there are 2 things everyone should know about warranty electronic work.
1) Always go back to stock. Will this cause you to loose all your data and settings, yes, but that leads me into step 2.
2) It is never a guarantee to come back with the settings or OS the way you sent it out. In fact, most companies have a policy of the first step being just reflash/reinstall the OS to stock default out of the box settings to see if that fixes the problems. So knowing this, spend the few extra minutes to reflash back to stock.
That being said, you could possibly win in a court to get it warrantied, but you are only going to screw yourself out of a lot of money and time. HTC knows this and will let you waste it if you really feel the need to. Their warranties are written very well, with a lot of fine print. Also most of them say "Limited" meaning almost they have all the discretion the care to use.

I agree with tweiss3. You can't send HTC a phone with a modified ROM and expect them to fix it. I'm sure these SOB's will do anything possible to get out of fixing your phone. Once they saw that you had a different SPL that was the red flag they needed to void the warranty. I hope you can convince them to fix your phone. Maybe if you were very persistent and demanded to speak to several managers, told them how you and your friends all own HTC product, inform them you will no longer buy their products and possibly take them to court, etc.
With all this in mind I'm even more hesitant to flash my phone to a modified ROM.

I kind of expect it, to be honest. As soon as they see anything not stock, they can void the warranty. Just like with a car with the manufacturer's warranty. You modify it and something breaks, and they will attempt to void the entire warranty regardless of if it caused the problem or not. When I send my car in for warranty work, I take all of the mods off and put it back to the stock parts (the air intake, etc).
It's a crappy deal, I know. But it's something you should plan for if you ever need warranty work done.
Either way, I hope everything works out for you

Its just a rule of thumb when it comes to warranty repair with electronics, always restore stock first!!! As soon as HTC discovered that your phone software was modified, it's no longer an issue to them of what caused the problem with your phone, it is now an issue of this phone is no longer under warranty because of the physical proof of the software tamperment! honestly it would be by the grace of god if they were to reinstate the warranty!

Unfortunatly due to the phone not powering on, or connecting via usb it would have been impossible to restore the firmware.
Thanks for the advice and well wishers.
Worse come to the worse is it worth repairing the phone for that price or is their anyone else who could replace the mainboard for cheaper than £160?

Dude, I totally know what you're going through. I hacked the ECU on my car, and now Mazda won't honor the warranty on my engine. It's total bull...I mean, I should be able to customize it how I want with no repercussions for myself. Why should I have to take the financial hit just because I put on a different software that controls the entire thing that may or may not have screwed it up?
If you couldn't tell, I was being sarcastic. You changed the core controlling software and didn't bother to change it back to the stock one. They have no responsibility to repair it for you.

andypa1 said:
Positive thinking goes along way as well I feel.
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I honestly wish you luck. Other readers seeking warranty repair should save themselves the risk and the effort and think positively about returning the phone to stock prior to sending it in.
Last week I plugged my touch pro 2 in to charge. The phone was on and working fine, but the charging light would not come on.
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Unfortunatly due to the phone not powering on, or connecting via usb it would have been impossible to restore the firmware.
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Eh? Obviously if you can't flash it back, you're stuck. Other posters might not have been as hard on you if they had known the phone couldn't be flashed.

Now you know what needs doing I bet you can find someone to do it for less. Worth a look.
Also worth asking for it back and re-flashing and returning to see how their records work.
Do they really have a database of products they don't want to work with or do they just look at the serial, look at the device and decide ? Only one way to find out ! For £11 it might be worth the gamble.
(Plz ignore the previous any post made here earlier, I think it was the equivalent of a pocket call )

What?
I don't think he ever said they fixed it without asking him. They gave him two options:
1) Fix it
2) Return it without repairing it
Unless I missed a post somewhere, he never chose to fix it. In fact, I don't even think he chose to take it back yet.

Just an update... They decided not to replace it for free, and still ask for £160.
You guys are quite right I should have restored it to factory before sending it back. It was sent to HTC running the official upgraded rom so I thought it would be fine, however I had forgotten that it would still be unlocked for unofficial roms and they would check this.
Even if I had remembered it wouldn't have been possible because the phone usb connection was not working..
dik23 thank you for your suggestion! Is there anyway of restoring the spl and all of the phone to stock settings without a usb connection? e.g. micro sd? or wifi?
I think i'm going to ask for the phone back for £11.. However the £11 fee is for an assesment, so there is a chance they will pick up. However I believe having the phone in perfect working condition would give me a stronger standing.

did you ever try a different USB cable? that would be my first thought after it broke....
also, do you have phone insurance? if so, is there any chance in the future it could be "stolen" under the insurance policy, and at worst you would get a working refurb?

I don't have phone insurance but it might be worth while getting it soon incase of any future loss ;-)

madman1520 said:
also, do you have phone insurance? if so, is there any chance in the future it could be "stolen" under the insurance policy, and at worst you would get a working refurb?
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andypa1 said:
I don't have phone insurance but it might be worth while getting it soon incase of any future loss ;-)
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Even setting morality aside (which you shouldn't), reporting a phone as having been stolen shortly after having a warranty claim rejected is maybe not the smartest move.

i cant believe people from the US are telling you youre in the wrong. idunno about other countries, including the one you're at, but here in the US warranties are made to protect the CONSUMER not the big company. "minidevil"s comparison about a car manufacturer having the right to void your warranty is so wrong its unbelievable. so called "shrinkwrap warranties" arent even legal here in the US. i had a yamaha R1 which i used as a track bike. regardless of what the warranty said or what the dealership try to claim the minute i lawyered up they fixed my bike. simply because they knew what they hoped i didnt. that warranty laws are here to protect me not them. i didnt have to prove that the racing mods didnt fry my clutch hub. THEY had to prove it did. and like it has been said, you cant prove one way or another. here in the US i couldve asked for costs of repairing my bike and court costs for suing them. they knew this and just fixed my bike. again, idunno the laws in your country. its VERY likely youll win in a court, though. but wether or not your court system allows you to also recoup loss monies for court costs from HTC, i dont know.. it may just be cheaper to pay for the repairs.

[Q] My Desire completely dead!!!

Hi everybody,
Six months ago ive purchased in store htc desire.
I rooted the phone and everything was fine.
Five months later i decided to renew my rom and did again, but something was going worng and my device completely dead. No charging no recovery nothing.
I have a warranty for one year and i gave my device to this store where i've bought it.
One month their technic gyus in lab tried to revive him but unsuccessfully.
In the store iwas told that they connected with j-tag and didn't success.
There is a voltage or something like that in motherboard,but no bootloader. There is something problematic to software,but no hardware, therefore it's not under a warranty.The guy from the store said to me that he tried with j-tag and other methods,but no signals of life.
For replacing motherboard they want 350 dollars.Of course it will solve my problem, but 350 dollars
How can i revive my phone? and j-tag really must to help in this way if only boot is not ok and motherboard is good? So why they didn't success in this case?

andro2011 said:
Hi everybody,
Six months ago ive purchased in store htc desire.
I rooted the phone and everything was fine.
Five months later i decided to renew my rom and did again, but something was going worng and my device completely dead. No charging no recovery nothing.
I have a warranty for one year and i gave my device to this store where i've bought it.
One month their technic gyus in lab tried to revive him but unsuccessfully.
In the store iwas told that they connected with j-tag and didn't success.
There is a voltage or something like that in motherboard,but no bootloader. There is something problematic to software,but no hardware, therefore it's not under a warranty.The guy from the store said to me that he tried with j-tag and other methods,but no signals of life.
For replacing motherboard they want 350 dollars.Of course it will solve my problem, but 350 dollars
How can i revive my phone? and j-tag really must to help in this way if only boot is not ok and motherboard is good? So why they didn't success in this case?
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You can find here people you can contact that have jtag boxes: http://www.jtagbox.com/riff-jtag-bo...-bricked-phone-riff-box-owners-list/#comments.
If the tech guys told you that jtag didn't help, I doubt that anybody here can do something for you. Maybe the freezer mthod might work for you, but it is an extremely long shot.

Thank you for your reply
1.Tell me if i can trust to these people in contact list that you gave?
2.Can you write what is the freezer method and what's the difference between j-tag and this method?
Thanks

andro2011 said:
Thank you for your reply
1.Tell me if i can trust to these people in contact list that you gave?
2.Can you write what is the freezer method and what's the difference between j-tag and this method?
Thanks
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1) Dunno. Those are people who are listed with desire jtag equipment. You said that in the service they've tried repairing your phone with jtag, which I think is the lowest level repair. There is no software solution to your problem. In your situation you have the definition of a bricked phone.
2) Put your phone in the freezer, wrapped in a plastic bag for 5 minutes. It's supposed to to make the circuit board contract and thus braking any short circuits you might have on your motherboard or reset some chip.
Truth be told it's an extremely long shot, I'm only speculating.

Dead Phone RIP ?

Hi ,
My SGH-i927 was working quite happily sat on charge connected to a USB cable on my PC, I left work with the phone in my pocket and when I came to use it a couple of hours later it was completely unresponsive.
It will not respond to power button at all
It shows no activity when on charge either via wall wart or USB, it does not show up as connected to the PC when USB cable plugged in.
I've tried removing the battery for a couple of minutes and also a different battery with long and short presses of the Power Button whiles't holding volume with various combinations there of.
This is not as a result of my flashing anything it just stopped, the threads I've seen using search all seem to be able to get to a boot screen of some description mine is completely dead.
Phone was Unlocked / rooted / backed up + efs backup / running 4.0.4 UCLJ3 Lite Kernel
Anyone have a suggestion on how I might be able to resurrect it or should I put it in a long ship and set fire to it ?

Please note I imported this Phone into the UK
I approached a local SAMSUNG service center and they won't touch it as it's from outside the EU. - Further more on discussing the nature of the problem I was informed it's probably a hardware fault due to IC or Fuse or combination of them. As these are surface mounted components they wouldn't be repairable by normal means and they wouldn't even give me a number for an independent phone repair.
Can anyone know of and can give me the contact details of a repair person based in the UK who'd be willing to look at it ?

requiem_mortis said:
Please note I imported this Phone into the UK
I approached a local SAMSUNG service center and they won't touch it as it's from outside the EU. - Further more on discussing the nature of the problem I was informed it's probably a hardware fault due to IC or Fuse or combination of them. As these are surface mounted components they wouldn't be repairable by normal means and they wouldn't even give me a number for an independent phone repair.
Can anyone know of and can give me the contact details of a repair person based in the UK who'd be willing to look at it ?
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I can send you a working motherboard if the rest of the phone is ok

netseby said:
I can send you a working motherboard if the rest of the phone is ok
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Thankyou,
I appreciate the time taken to respond and especially the offer, however although not completely inept with a soldering iron changing the motherboard may well be beyond my expertise, but I'd be willing to give it a go if all else fails.
I have managed to locate another repair center reportedly having Samsung Qualified technicians. Initial communications seemed to suggest they could deal with the assessment which they provide for free. I have sent the handset to them and am now awaiting their report.
If things do not work out with the repair center, I would like to contact you to discuss your offer further.
Regards

Response from repair center - beyond economical repair - but no further detail.
I think I'll call it quits now and just invest in a new handset.

Dead Captivate Glide - RIP ?
netseby said:
I can send you a working motherboard if the rest of the phone is ok
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Going through my draw I came across my dead handset and would dearly love to get it working again ....I know it's been a while and apologies if I'm now too late but is your offer of a replacement motherboard still open ?
Regards
Phill

requiem_mortis said:
Going through my draw I came across my dead handset and would dearly love to get it working again ....I know it's been a while and apologies if I'm now too late but is your offer of a replacement motherboard still open ?
Regards
Phill
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2KF0YV4051 $145 brand new.
I might be willing to part with my own for a reasonable price too, but it wouldn't be less than $100. Has an extended battery. Probably better to get a brand new one.

Wifi + Bluetooth not enabling anymore

Dear Forum Members,
I don't know what to do anymore. I am at your mercy. Tried everything I can. Can't seem to solve it myself.
I bought me Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 SM-T800 1 1/2 years ago and was extremely happy with it. Everything worked like a dream. I rooted it after a few weeks because I wanted to get a network going. No problems at all. A few days ago I turned it on and I didn't have any Wifi and Bluetooth was also not turned on. I don't use Bluetooth but it was on at default. I tried working with my router, modem, you name it, it wasn't my connection, so then I tried the tablet itself. Some people said it was SideSync, so I removed that, didn't do anything. I was still using android 4.4.2 so I installed 5.0.2 unrooted and that didn't do anything. After that I wiped everything and went to factory default, no difference. In the end, I looked everywhere, even removed the back panel to see if a connection was loose but everything looks fine. I did another clean install from a firmware installed from the Samsung website to make sure and still, same problem.
I rooted the device, so my warranty is gone.
I don't know what to do now. I use the tablet a lot but mostly online but can't anymore.
I would be very grateful if someone could help. This tablet means a lot to me. My little Sammy :crying:

Nobody?
Edit: Have tried starting in safe mode and nothing changes.
It did work one morning for like half an hour for some reason. Very strange. Then it stopped working again. It does now sometimes show some networks in the area and bluetooth does work sometimes but it wifi and bluetooth disconnects immediately if you connect.

I was in the same situation as you. I ended up sending my device into Samsung for warranty repair. I sent out it last week, and I received it back Tuesday afternoon. Crazy thing was, when they sent it back, there was no paperwork in the box. *Yikes*

statustray said:
I was in the same situation as you. I ended up sending my device into Samsung for warranty repair. I sent out it last week, and I received it back Tuesday afternoon. Crazy thing was, when they sent it back, there was no paperwork in the box. *Yikes*
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Thanks for sharing your experience, did it in the end get repaired?
Here is what happened with my device.
I contacted the shop and they wanted to send it to a verified repair shop and that I might need to pay money because I rooted my device. In the European constitution it says that if it is not caused by rooting, they can't void the warranty, so I mentioned that and they said it was true but the repair shop was the one who should make sure what the problem is, not them. But I found it a bit fishy so I searched on Twitter for a Samsung account and contacted a very nice woman on there. I asked here about my problem, said what the shop was going to do, she asked what the repair shop's name was and verified it was a good one. She even helped with some tests to see if some things wouldn't solve the problem. Asked her about the warranty and she told me about the European constitution law and that if it wasn't caused by a software problem, it shouldn't cost me anything.
The shop I was talking with saw me talking with them and I think they freaked out a bit. They sent me and the woman from Samsung a message what I wanted to do and I wanted to send it in for repair. I did this and a week later I got it back at no cost and the motherboard was busted. I did get paperwork with my package. Even got my original box back with it and my original cord. Even got a new USB cord for the trouble.
My Sammy is working like a charm again and I love it to bits! Samsung has greet service on Twitter and the repair service is also great!:good:

Giant Shadow Lurker said:
Thanks for sharing your experience, did it in the end get repaired?
Here is what happened with my device.
I contacted the shop and they wanted to send it to a verified repair shop and that I might need to pay money because I rooted my device. In the European constitution it says that if it is not caused by rooting, they can't void the warranty, so I mentioned that and they said it was true but the repair shop was the one who should make sure what the problem is, not them. But I found it a bit fishy so I searched on Twitter for a Samsung account and contacted a very nice woman on there. I asked here about my problem, said what the shop was going to do, she asked what the repair shop's name was and verified it was a good one. She even helped with some tests to see if some things wouldn't solve the problem. Asked her about the warranty and she told me about the European constitution law and that if it wasn't caused by a software problem, it shouldn't cost me anything.
The shop I was talking with saw me talking with them and I think they freaked out a bit. They sent me and the woman from Samsung a message what I wanted to do and I wanted to send it in for repair. I did this and a week later I got it back at no cost and the motherboard was busted. I did get paperwork with my package. Even got my original box back with it and my original cord. Even got a new USB cord for the trouble.
My Sammy is working like a charm again and I love it to bits! Samsung has greet service on Twitter and the repair service is also great!:good:
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Oops.... I forgot to mention it... but yes my device was repaired. It had root going to the shop and they didn't say anything about it being rooted. I am just not exactly sure of what they fixed so I think I am going to call in tonight and see what they did to resolve the issue.
So far, so good with it.
Here's what I hate though.... there's 1000s of folks all experiencing this very same problem as what we were experiencing. My warranty is up in just a few days because i didn't purchase an extended warranty from the place I purchased it from (BestBuy). I don't even know how long the warranty is on whatever repairs that they did. *Yikes*
BUT, I am glad you were able to get your issue resolved as well. That's awesome!

I think it's a design flaw in the first few models. Most devices these days have problems at the beginning when they come out. Dare I mention the XBOX360 that was a problem for it's entire run. I had the luck of only having to repair one but I have known people who had to send in multiple or buy multiple new ones. I probably sound like a grandpa at 28 years old but they don't make things like they used to. They test things in the field on paying customers and that is horrible. Same even counts for pharmaceutical products, it's horrible. But people buy and if demand keeps asking, they keep pumping stuff out. It's not about making a product to be proud about, it's about money, and making money as fast as possible. It's understandable to a degree, but the extremes most companies go to is just ridiculous and the people they hurt with it is even worse. But the market is also way to competitive to not do those things. They would go bankrupt in a year or less if they would do it in a fair and honest way. The world isn't fair and honest. It's a bitter view on the world and the market but these wonderful devices get made in horrible conditions by people that get payed horrible wages commanded by people that get payed incredible wages. In the end, there have to be people that are on the losing side and that are often customers and laborers. And normal people can't win from a big company, whatever they do.
Sorry for the rant. I feel very strongly about injustice in jobs and the unfairness in the world. I really wish we could go back to a time where people are proud of the things they make and sell and everyone would profit from it in some way.
What I have noticed ever since my tablet returned is that my battery is lasting much longer. Maybe it's the new motherboard or they put in a new battery pack. Have you noticed this as well after the repair?

Please, HELP!!! LG G4 After Battery Loading-_- Phone is DEAD!!!!

Hy, Guys.
first i want to say
Sorry for my English i am from Austria. so my first Language is German.
My LG G4 H815 runs with Genesys 4.8 or 4.6.(dont know anymore) Bootloader Unlocked.
a few Days ago i had only 8% Battery so i put my Power cable in the device and go to sleep.
Next day i want to start my Phone an...........
NOTHING.
my G4 is Dead!!!!
i dont get it.
i try´d to start norm.
nothing.
put out the battery, put it back, try to start but
NOTHING...
Tryed to boot in Recovery but also NOTHING.
Now i put my G4 with usb on the Laptop but it did not reconize the Phone.
PLEASE GUYS PLEASE HELP ME.
I UNLOCKED MY BOOTLOADER!!!
And now i think my WARRANTY is gone.
I think the repair cost´s are verry high or do somebody know if LG Repair my PHone for free with unlocked BOOTLOADER???
sorry guys but i am done.
my nervs are gone..
If someone could help me that would be AMAZING and i could pay a few BEER´s-
Thanks

kinimod25 said:
Hy, Guys.
first i want to say
Sorry for my English i am from Austria. so my first Language is German.
My LG G4 H815 runs with Genesys 4.8 or 4.6.(dont know anymore) Bootloader Unlocked.
a few Days ago i had only 8% Battery so i put my Power cable in the device and go to sleep.
Next day i want to start my Phone an...........
NOTHING.
my G4 is Dead!!!!
i dont get it.
i try´d to start norm.
nothing.
put out the battery, put it back, try to start but
NOTHING...
Tryed to boot in Recovery but also NOTHING.
Now i put my G4 with usb on the Laptop but it did not reconize the Phone.
PLEASE GUYS PLEASE HELP ME.
I UNLOCKED MY BOOTLOADER!!!
And now i think my WARRANTY is gone.
I think the repair cost´s are verry high or do somebody know if LG Repair my PHone for free with unlocked BOOTLOADER???
sorry guys but i am done.
my nervs are gone..
If someone could help me that would be AMAZING and i could pay a few BEER´s-
Thanks
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First thing you should do is checking the serial.
Pull out battery and look at the first 3 digits. If it starts with 5xx you may be another victim of a well known main board issue (search for bootloop at xda).
Second thing Austria is in the EU so you SHOULD have no problem on sending it to repair even with unlocked bootloader.
Besides that search form the freezer method or oven method here @XDA.
Those may can help you to recover the data.
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Okay.
My serial begins with 507.
And this is shure about warranty and unlocked bootloader?
Is this only a problem outside the EU?
Tomorrow i bring my phone to the shop and tell them the story.
Lets hope for a free repair.
Because i searched the net for a new mainboard.
150Bucks.
Thats not possible in the moment for me.
Thanks for your time.

kinimod25 said:
Okay.
My serial begins with 507.
And this is shure about warranty and unlocked bootloader?
Is this only a problem outside the EU?
Tomorrow i bring my phone to the shop and tell them the story.
Lets hope for a free repair.
Because i searched the net for a new mainboard.
150Bucks.
Thats not possible in the moment for me.
Thanks for your time.
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The key is Directive 1999/44/CE.
For the details take a look here:
In short: No. Just the fact that you modified or changed the software of your device, is not a sufficient reason to void your statutory warranty. As long as you have bought the device as a consumer in the European Union.
A bit longer: Directive 1999/44/CE dictates¹ that any object meeting certain criteria (including telephones, computers, routers etc.) being sold to a consumer² inside the European Union, has to carry a warranty from the seller that the device will meet the quality that you would expect for such a device for a period of 2 years. A telephone is an example of such a device and is an object that comprises many parts, from the case to the screen to the radio, to a mini-computer, to the battery, to the software that runs it. If any of these parts³ stop working in those 2 years, the seller has to fix or replace them. What is more these repairs should not cost the consumer a single cent — the seller has to cover the expenses (Directive 1999/44/CE, §3). If the seller has any expenses for returning it to the manufacturer, this is not your problem as a consumer.
If your device becomes defective in the first 6 months, it is presumed that the defect was there all along, so you should not need to prove anything. If your device becomes defective after the first 6 months, but before 2 years run out, you are still covered. The difference is only that if the defect arises now, the seller can claim that the defect was caused by some action that was triggered by non-normal use of the device.
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Sources:
http://piana.eu/root
https://fsfe.org/campaigns/android/liberate.en.html
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Thank you verry much.
I have my LG G4 since 3 or 4 month's!
Lets hope there is no problem with warrnty.
thanks again for your time.
XDA
Best board, best Devs,
best of the best.

kinimod25 said:
Thank you verry much.
I have my LG G4 since 3 or 4 month's!
Lets hope there is no problem with warrnty.
thanks again for your time.
XDA
Best board, best Devs,
best of the best.
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Hi,
How do you solve the issue?