Hello all, I have a 16 GB sd card (actual 14.83GB) and under Settings - SD card and Phone Storage it says that i have 7.04 GB available...basically half...
The problem is that I have nothing THAT BIG!! I copied the SD card over to my computer and it's only 852 MB...What the hell is going on?
Has anyone had this problem? or does anyone have any ideas as to how to figure out what is taking up so much space?
Help is appreciated, thank you.
Do you apps2sd or apps2ext? Also, by chance is there a folder called: LOST.DIR? Lastly, if you take the card OUT of the evo, put it into an adapter, and check free spaces on your PC what does it say? << Perhaps there's some hidden folders your PC cannot see when you just directly copy the files to your PC.
if you have downloaded a rom or somthing to it, plus music eats memory up badly, i suggest reformatting sd card.
go to settings>sd card & phone storage> unmount sd card> format
make sure you get the files you need off of it. akaics, videos, contacts, apps;etc.
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oblivior72 said:
Hello all, I have a 16 GB sd card (actual 14.83GB) and under Settings - SD card and Phone Storage it says that i have 7.04 GB available...basically half...
The problem is that I have nothing THAT BIG!! I copied the SD card over to my computer and it's only 852 MB...What the hell is going on?
Has anyone had this problem? or does anyone have any ideas as to how to figure out what is taking up so much space?
Help is appreciated, thank you.
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Sounds like your card is partitioned.. move your cards over to the computer
Go into recovery
Run partition SD card
Set swap to 0mb
Partition 1 (or whatever its called: main partition ) to full amount of SD card and nothing for ext partition
Hope this was helpful!
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Great ill go ahead give this a try. Thank you very much.
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craigbailey1986 said:
Sounds like your card is partitioned.. move your cards over to the computer
Go into recovery
Run partition SD card
Set swap to 0mb
Partition 1 (or whatever its called: main partition ) to full amount of SD card and nothing for ext partition
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Thanks man it worked!
Did you get the card from eBay?
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Hi!
I was looking after this issue since my holidays. My Glide just uninstalls random applications that are on SD card (external_SD) after reboot. The replication is 8 out of 10. I had almost 30 apps on the SD card (mostly games).
What I did:
-restart the launcher
-wipe/factory reset
-change microSD cards
-reformat microSD card
How can I tell apps are uninstalled?
-checked Market
-checked TiBu (Backup/restore > Uninst. filter)
As I said, different apps are uninstalled every reboot. If I again reboot my device, the app(s) previously removed will be installed and another app(s) is removed.
Temporarily, my apps are transferred on my Internal storage (2gb) and so far, no issues. This quite puzzles me for I did not encounter any issues using my microSDs in file transfers, media and etc except for this one.
May you have similar issues and have solutions for them, please share and it will be greatly appreciated.
I posted this in the subforum for this only happened on my Glide (did not see in my Captivate and Infuse with same micrSDs). If you see this as inappropriate, please leave me a message or reply, or simply report my post.
Thanks
Correct me if I am wrong but apps moved to SD actually install to the 4gb USB storage in the unit (/sdcard). Nothing goes to the external SD (/sdcard/external_sd) unless manually moved there. If you want to install a program to the SD you have to use root utilities.
Doesn't help you with your issue but you should be able to completely remove the SD card and see if you continue to have the problem.
I haven't noticed this on my wife Glide but it does happen on my Skyrocket.
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Installed adw launcher last night and haven't had a problem with the disappearing apps.
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eddiert said:
Correct me if I am wrong but apps moved to SD actually install to the 4gb USB storage in the unit (/sdcard). Nothing goes to the external SD (/sdcard/external_sd) unless manually moved there. If you want to install a program to the SD you have to use root utilities.
Doesn't help you with your issue but you should be able to completely remove the SD card and see if you continue to have the problem.
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No your wrong when you hit the button move to SD Card it actually goes to the MicroSD card. I tried hitting that button without a Microsd card and I get an error it says not External card detected or something like that. When I installed my MicroSD card it moved the apps to it.
JB
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No your wrong when you hit the button move to SD Card it actually goes to the MicroSD card. I tried hitting that button without a Microsd card and I get an error it says not External card detected or something like that. When I installed my MicroSD card it moved the apps to it.
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You are correct. Good to know. I verified that I have a few apps moved to SD and they do not work when the SD is removed.
However, I can not replicate the OPs original issue. I put the SD back in and the apps are launchable again. All apps remain after reboot. When the SD was swapped was it with a different brand/model. I am using an 8gb Sandisk.
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dudejb said:
No your wrong when you hit the button move to SD Card it actually goes to the MicroSD card. I tried hitting that button without a Microsd card and I get an error it says not External card detected or something like that. When I installed my MicroSD card it moved the apps to it.
JB
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That's weird because I was able to move to SD without inserting a Micro SD card and when I move to SD, it moves them to the internal USB storage instead of the Micro SD card.
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That's weird because I was able to move to SD without inserting a Micro SD card and when I move to SD, it moves them to the internal USB storage instead of the Micro SD card.
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Weird how we both have different results here. I have the Rogers running Android version 2.3.5 and Kernel version 2.6.36.3
JB
responses are greatly appreciated....I also tried moving two apps on SDcard after transferring them to the internal (2GB) storage. my glide automatically removed one of them after reboot. Well it's not a concern until i ended up running out of space on my internal
I noticed this as well on some apps I just reinstalled them on the internal and will not transfer them to the SD I again. I guess some programs don't want to be transferred to SD.
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Weird how we both have different results here. I have the Rogers running Android version 2.3.5 and Kernel version 2.6.36.3
JB
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I have the exact same phone, I think you are confused. Move to SD never moves to external SD. Why else would apps like 'Apps2SD' exist then?
Apps2Sd allows you to map certain folders that are hard coded to the sd internal. For example game loft games install on the internal applicaton 2 gig partition a small installer and then Download extra content on the internal sd card. Apps2Sd allows you to map the game directory from the internal sd to your micro sd card. Similar in linux with a sym link. The Move to Sd from the Os (gingerbread). Allows you to alleviate some room from your 2 gig applications partition and move apps to the Microsd card.
JB
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dudejb said:
Apps2Sd allows you to map certain folders that are hard coded to the sd internal. For example game loft games install on the internal applicaton 2 gig partition a small installer and then Download extra content on the internal sd card. Apps2Sd allows you to map the game directory from the internal sd to your micro sd card. Similar in linux with a sym link. The Move to Sd from the Os (gingerbread). Allows you to alleviate some room from your 2 gig applications partition and move apps to the Microsd card.
JB
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Could it be that whether it move to internal or external SD depends on the app? None of my apps have been moved to the external microSD yet. Maybe it is because I have extra space on my internal microSD? Also when I go to Manage Apps > On SD Card, it shows the space used and remaining on the internal SD(USB storage).
vil33 said:
Could it be that whether it move to internal or external SD depends on the app? None of my apps have been moved to the external microSD yet. Maybe it is because I have extra space on my internal microSD? Also when I go to Manage Apps > On SD Card, it shows the space used and remaining on the internal SD(USB storage).
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if you are rooted, look for a folder named .android.secure on your Glide's hard drives. That folder contains apps that are moved to SD card. I see mine on /sdcard/external_sd/.android.secure
Hi, even if this thread is an old one, the same issue happened to my phone:
I can't use the internal memory to move apps because they are uninstalled every time the phone is rebooted. What is the clue?
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Under applications when you choose Move to SD, is that supposed to move to internal or external SD. If it is supposed to move to external SD, what is the correct behavior when you don't have an external SD inserted?
This is in regards to the stock Samsung ROM.
sfhub said:
Under applications when you choose Move to SD, is that supposed to move to internal or external SD. If it is supposed to move to external SD, what is the correct behavior when you don't have an external SD inserted?
This is in regards to the stock Samsung ROM.
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Unless you make some modifications, anything that gets moved to "sd_card" is on the internal memory.
If you move an app to the external SD and then you don't have that card inserted, you won't be able to use the app. You MAY get a force close... more likely, you'll get an "unable to launch" error.
When moving to sd i think samsung originally intended for the app to move to the internal memory being that it shows the available space for the internal memory at the bottom. However when u move apps they actually go to the sd card and if you look closely you'll see the available memory at the bottom is not decreasing in size as you move them.. If you try to move an app with no sd card present you'll get an error about no sd card inserted pop up on the screen.
Edit: On ics it actually says unable to move app. Not enough available space. Mind you i have 8gbs free.
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Im gonna say it always goes to internal or "usb storage" I was looking here, shots attached, and you can see at the bottom of the third tab titled on sd card, it says usb storage. so sd card = usb storage = internal sd. All the same. I have a 32 gb external sd and no apps have been pushed over with the move to sd function, they move to usb
Edit:im currently on gb if it matters
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Im gonna say it always goes to internal or "usb storage" I was looking here, shots attached, and you can see at the bottom of the third tab titled on sd card, it says usb storage. so sd card = usb storage = internal sd. All the same. I have a 32 gb external sd and no apps have been pushed over with the move to sd function, they move to usb
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It just shows usb storage bcuz it thinks its sending them there. I guarantee if you move those apps back to the phone the available space wont change and if u look at ur actual sd card storage from the storage section you'll see the space free up there. I've already did my research and brought it up long ago. No one payed it any mind. Samsung failed on that just like they failed with the picture orientation when taking pics in portrait mode.. Unmount ur sd card and watch as every app thats been moved become grayed out till u reinsert ur card..
Edit: I also realized that the usb storage has been switched to sd card on ics fe07. However its still showing my internal memory meanwhile my apps move to the external sd..
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I can't find any trace of any apps on my external sd card using different file managers. They are all on /sd card as opposed to /sd card/external sd
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Yes, this discussion is exactly what led to my initial question.
When I move stuff to sd (on ICS) it says it is using USB storage and the SD section says 0, but it actually mapped the storage through a mount point on the internal SD that is mapped to external sd. The files are then kept in the .android_secure directory on the external SD.
However I read many posts where people are asking how they can move apps to the external SD instead of the internal SD, so that got me thinking in some cases it does the internal SD.
My android_secure folder on external sd is showing empty using root explorer.
I even used titanium backup's function of move all user apps to sd and they went to /sdcard not external
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All I'm saying is as long as u keep moving apps to sd the memory for the external card will decrease while the internal wont move a thing. Just go ahead and move them back and forth and keep an eye on available space for both internal/external and you'll see what i mean. Its weird idk. If they were truly on the internal the apps shouldn't disappears after an sd card unmount... I dont believe it ever does internal. At least I've never successfully moved an app without an external card present, i always receive some error message
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sfhub said:
Under applications when you choose Move to SD, is that supposed to move to internal or external SD. If it is supposed to move to external SD, what is the correct behavior when you don't have an external SD inserted?
This is in regards to the stock Samsung ROM.
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In regards to stock at the present stock means gingerbread, 'cause ics isn't yet official on the Epic, in gingerbread in manage apps option is, move to SD card or move to phone, I guess phone means internal, and SD card means external. If card i s not present you get no option to move. That is in regards to stock.
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In regards to stock at the present stock means gingerbread, 'cause ics isn't yet official on the Epic, in gingerbread in manage apps option is, move to SD card or move to phone, I guess phone means internal, and SD card means external. If card i s not present you get no option to move. That is in regards to stock.
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For me, on stock GB, Move to SD ends up moving to external SD. Move to Phone is only present after an app is moved to (external) SD and if I press that, it moves back to /data on the phone. It doesn't move to internal SD.
I am under the impression that there is some factor which causes some phones to install to external SD and some phones to install to internal SD.
I am trying to hopefully discover what that pattern is because I know some people prefer one behavior and some prefer the other behavior.
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For me, on stock GB, Move to SD ends up moving to external SD. Move to Phone is only present after an app is moved to (external) SD and if I press that, it moves back to /data on the phone. It doesn't move to internal SD.
I am under the impression that there is some factor which causes some phones to install to external SD and some phones to install to internal SD.
I am trying to hopefully discover what that pattern is because I know some people prefer one behavior and some prefer the other behavior.
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Well if you figure it out I'd be interested in it. I would love too have my apps go to the internal. This phone scans the USB storage a lot faster than it does a sd card. I'm sure that would stop the whole apps going blank after removing an sd card when apps are on sd. I have so many apps on the sd it takes a while to fully scan and sometimes one or two don't load and are grayed so i have to unmount and remount to get them to show.. This phone struggles when it's scanning both media at the same time. If I power on without the sd card and put it in after it finish scanning the USB the sd card loads everything perfectly with no grayed out app icon.
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I would like to know as well. I would appreciate having the ability to choose external/internal sd when moving apps to sd.
The way storage capacity totals are currently displayed make what is happening a bit confusing. when I first got my phone I spent a couple hours experimenting after recognizing the behaviour noted above.
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Yes, this discussion is exactly what led to my initial question.
When I move stuff to sd (on ICS) it says it is using USB storage and the SD section says 0, but it actually mapped the storage through a mount point on the internal SD that is mapped to external sd. The files are then kept in the .android_secure directory on the external SD.
However I read many posts where people are asking how they can move apps to the external SD instead of the internal SD, so that got me thinking in some cases it does the internal SD.
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Honestly sfhub i think all e4gt move to the external and some ppl just think its going to the internal. The way the On Sd section displays the available space for internal usb memory is enough to confuse some. I believe this phone is set up to look for a mounted sd card to move apps. That's just my opinion on the subject..
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Honestly sfhub i think all e4gt move to the external and some ppl just think its going to the internal. The way the On Sd section displays the available space for internal usb memory is enough to confuse some. I believe this phone is set up to look for a mounted sd card to move apps. That's just my opinion on the subject..
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That's what I thought too, but I believe some people can install/move to sd even without external SD inserted.
My unit cannot do this. It will only install/move to SD with external SD inserted, and even though the UI makes you think it is installing to internal SD, the actual files show up in the .android_secure folder on the external SD. If I don't have external SD inserted, then it will produce an error when you move an app to SD (or if the app tries to install to sd on its own). Therefore I believe some units are actually installing to internal SD because some people are able to move to SD even without external SD inserted.
Can someone (sfHub ) explain this, I think some of us need some clarification.
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All I'm saying is as long as u keep moving apps to sd the memory for the external card will decrease while the internal wont move a thing. Just go ahead and move them back and forth and keep an eye on available space for both internal/external and you'll see what i mean. Its weird idk. If they were truly on the internal the apps shouldn't disappears after an sd card unmount... I dont believe it ever does internal. At least I've never successfully moved an app without an external card present, i always receive some error message
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I've moved several apps to SD, first of all, currently you will receive "unable to move app to SD" if you're running an ICS build, secondly when I tried on GB, my external .Android_secure also stayed empty, the space remains the same, and the apps show up on
/sdcard, with the USB storage space reducing, not the external sd card. Not sure when the fix will come for ICS, hopefully soon, but sounds like maybe a broken partition somewhere if you are moving to sd and it doesn't go to USB, as it should...AND your external space is changing. Went to Samsung online support, and it is true, app to sd moves from "phone storage" to internal sd aka USB storage.
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For me, on stock GB, Move to SD ends up moving to external SD. Move to Phone is only present after an app is moved to (external) SD and if I press that, it moves back to /data on the phone. It doesn't move to internal SD.
I am under the impression that there is some factor which causes some phones to install to external SD and some phones to install to internal SD.
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I see Sfhub is experimenting with Stock GB. However, I do not see mentioned that for this to work everyone should be on the same baseline to prevent variations to the results. Once enough data has been collected, then you can vary from the baseline (ie. try a different ROM) in a controlled environment to get accurate data.
Short version: rules & guidelines should be established to discover the correct answer to the question.
Edit: Also, to prevent tainted data, EVERY phone should be wiped, formatted & odined to stock. Formatted specifically since the discussion is related to SD storage.
Here is the data I've gathered if it will help.
I am running pure Stock EL29 Rooted (via Sfhubs one click), both SD's have been formatted as well. External SD is a 16 GB SD memory stick.
I will try to breakdown the screen captures, please also note the device and usb memory displayed at the very bottom of some of the screens also:
External SD not mounted
1. Bare, nothing installed
2. Installed Angry Birds
3. same - different cap
4. same - different cap
5. Tried moving app to external SD (which is currently not mounted)
External SD mounted
6. Angry Birds moved to SD
7. same - different cap
8. same - different cap
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9. Angry Birds on internal memory (before move)
10. Angry Birds on external storage (after move)
Conclusion (from this test environment): Stock EL29 Gingerbreak 2.3.6 - If an application is moved to SD, it is placed on the external SD by default. If one does not exist, the move is not possible.
Edit: If you compare screencaps #9 (before move) and #10 (after move), storage is dropping on BOTH internal and external SD at the same time after the app is moved to SD. The app is rather small so I cannot say exactly how much (or what) is moved where, just an observation.
Identical test results with Calkulin's 3.0 GB ROM. I'd put money on Blazer 4.1 coming up with the same results but I don't have the energy to keep flashing GB roms.
It's beginning to look like most of the roms based on stock GB 2.3.6 will have similar results as long as they haven't been specifically tweaked to move & run apps from internal SD storage.
Hi guys I think this is the most appropriate place for this thread. This is also my first post so go easy on me. I have a SII (rooted with CM9) and I'm having problems moving apps to my external 8gig MicroSD.
The problem is that this phone appears to be partitioned so there is internal memory and "SD card" memory which is also internal I noticed this before the purchase of the MicroSD. After I inserted the microSD and turned on my phone I went to locate my SD using 'ES File Explorer' my phones "SD card" is located under "/sdcard" and my ACTUAL microSD is found in "/mnt/emmc".
My questions are why is my actual SD identified as emmc (I'm not even sure what that means)
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How can I get my phone to move apps to my external microSD and not what the phone thinks is my SD card which is actually internal phone memory
Thanks in advance. :laugh:
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Hi guys I think this is the most appropriate place for this thread. This is also my first post so go easy on me. I have a SII (rooted with CM9) and I'm having problems moving apps to my external 8gig MicroSD.
The problem is that this phone appears to be partitioned so there is internal memory and "SD card" memory which is also internal I noticed this before the purchase of the MicroSD. After I inserted the microSD and turned on my phone I went to locate my SD using 'ES File Explorer' my phones "SD card" is located under "/sdcard" and my ACTUAL microSD is found in "/mnt/emmc".
My questions are why is my actual SD identified as emmc (I'm not even sure what that means)
and
How can I get my phone to move apps to my external microSD and not what the phone thinks is my SD card which is actually internal phone memory
Thanks in advance. :laugh:
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Hi,
The bad news is, you can´t place apps on the real external SD card.
But you could place other thing like pictures and music there to save space on the internal storage (internal sdcard).
Ps.: I think the meaning of emmc is External MultiMedia Card
There is unfortunately no easy way to move it to external SD. However, if you are interested to dig more, I'll just say that I am doing it by binding a custom mount point. It is a dirty method though.
hi, im newbie here.. my usb storage always say full.. i dont move any apps to sd card.. so how do i solve this?? somebody help me. . :crying:
Transfer the big files of your sd card to the external sd card, so you'll have more space on internal sd card.
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Swap SD Card. Get an external SD, then put it in. Move all the files from the internal to external sd After that, go to /system and find build.prop. scroll down and find "Change 1 to enable swapping SD cards" and change the 0 to 1. Ensure the system using R/W before editing. Save and reboot.
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