Hi guys I think this is the most appropriate place for this thread. This is also my first post so go easy on me. I have a SII (rooted with CM9) and I'm having problems moving apps to my external 8gig MicroSD.
The problem is that this phone appears to be partitioned so there is internal memory and "SD card" memory which is also internal I noticed this before the purchase of the MicroSD. After I inserted the microSD and turned on my phone I went to locate my SD using 'ES File Explorer' my phones "SD card" is located under "/sdcard" and my ACTUAL microSD is found in "/mnt/emmc".
My questions are why is my actual SD identified as emmc (I'm not even sure what that means)
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How can I get my phone to move apps to my external microSD and not what the phone thinks is my SD card which is actually internal phone memory
Thanks in advance. :laugh:
brayn00b said:
Hi guys I think this is the most appropriate place for this thread. This is also my first post so go easy on me. I have a SII (rooted with CM9) and I'm having problems moving apps to my external 8gig MicroSD.
The problem is that this phone appears to be partitioned so there is internal memory and "SD card" memory which is also internal I noticed this before the purchase of the MicroSD. After I inserted the microSD and turned on my phone I went to locate my SD using 'ES File Explorer' my phones "SD card" is located under "/sdcard" and my ACTUAL microSD is found in "/mnt/emmc".
My questions are why is my actual SD identified as emmc (I'm not even sure what that means)
and
How can I get my phone to move apps to my external microSD and not what the phone thinks is my SD card which is actually internal phone memory
Thanks in advance. :laugh:
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Hi,
The bad news is, you can´t place apps on the real external SD card.
But you could place other thing like pictures and music there to save space on the internal storage (internal sdcard).
Ps.: I think the meaning of emmc is External MultiMedia Card
There is unfortunately no easy way to move it to external SD. However, if you are interested to dig more, I'll just say that I am doing it by binding a custom mount point. It is a dirty method though.
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Hi all, I feel like I'm completely lost at how Android or Samsung designed this.
First to clarify, I have the SGH-T989 with a 16GB microSD plugged in.
Under "Settings" - "Storage", I can see three categories: "SD card", "USB storage", and "System storage". It reports the size of my microSD card under "SD card", then it seems to divide what I understand is the internal memory into two parts: "USB storage" and "System storage". So "USB storage" has a total space of 11.25GB, and "System storage" has a space of 1.9GB.
What does it mean by "USB storage"?
And also, under "Applications" - "Manage applications" - "On SD card" tab, it is reporting the size of the "USB storage" on this tab. It seems to think the "USB storage" (which from what I understand is actually part of the internal memory) is the "SD card", and not treat my real microSD card as the "SD card". More importantly, if I move some app from system storage to SD card by clicking on "Move to SD card", it will be moved to the "USB storage" instead of my real microSD card. What is going on here? Does it mean that I'll never be able to really move an app to my real microSD card? Then what's the use of an external SD card?
System storage is simply where your apps are installed. usb storage is technically just your onboard storage. so if you move the app to USB storage it is technically no longer in the system storage. To me it's a good thing. I like to keep my actual external sd card for movies and pictures and music. Also those apps should still be pretty fast as they not on the slower sd card. ...
This is just how I would explain it to a friend.
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Well for me it is actually different....if i'm moving app to SD then it is going to external SD and not the USB storage. Is there some setting which i need to change so that it move the apps to USB storage and not external SD.
edited post I thought i could trick the system into letting move and app to internal sd by unmounting the external sd card but it didnt work.
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Actually the "Move to SD card" will move the app from system storage to external SD card, not the USB storage.
android4sunny said:
Well for me it is actually different....if i'm moving app to SD then it is going to external SD and not the USB storage. Is there some setting which i need to change so that it move the apps to USB storage and not external SD.
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You are right. I was wrong.
I'm curious why the storege is so very low. Isn't the phone 16GB? 11.25 of which 8.9 open is low.
the rest of the space has been partitioned for the internal apps
But I can only use the 1.9G to store my apps out of the 16G internal storage? If I move apps to SD card they get moved to the external SD card. Is there a way to move them to the rest of the internal storage (which is called "USB storage" on the phone)?
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But I can only use the 1.9G to store my apps out of the 16G internal storage? If I move apps to SD card they get moved to the external SD card. Is there a way to move them to the rest of the internal storage (which is called "USB storage" on the phone)?
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You mean when you move to SD card it actually gets moved to the USB drive, right? I don't like the way Samsung did this. We should have be able to move app or anything else to either internal, USB, or SD card. If we root will be able to do this?
I have the AT&T SGS2 and I'm wondering the same thing. I don't have an external SD card and my system storage is about to get full. I still have 9GB free in my USB storage but there doesn't seem to be a way to move my apps from system storage to USB storage. What do I do? Why is it partitioned this way?
Firepac said:
I have the AT&T SGS2 and I'm wondering the same thing. I don't have an external SD card and my system storage is about to get full. I still have 9GB free in my USB storage but there doesn't seem to be a way to move my apps from system storage to USB storage. What do I do? Why is it partitioned this way?
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I'm actually wondering about the same thing. Although it claims it has 16GB internal storage the actual size that we can install apps is just 1.9G, rest of it is partitioned as some kind of USB storage that can't be used to install apps, very annoying...
Also I only have about 20 apps installed on my system storage and they're all about a few MBs each. I only have about 400MBs of system storage is free. What could be taking up so much space?
Edit: Okay just found that a few games were storing their data on the system storage even though the system says it's installed on USB...
USB = System Internal Storage
try to move as much stuff as you can to the External SD card
\sdcard\external_sd\
that's how it looks like when you install stuff
^typical XDA...ask simple question, get incorrect answer, LOVE IT. By the way this is a thread i SEARCHED GOOGLE FOR, while being told by another XDA member to USE THE SEARCH FEATURE in a different thread.....sweet
so let me rephrase the goddamn question(s)
WHY WHEN WE MOVE APP TO SD CARD DOES THE PHONE MOVE THE APP TO THE REMOVABLE microSD CARD AND NOT INSTEAD USE THE INTERNAL STORAGE (11.2GB) WHICH IS MORE PLENTIFUL THAN THE 1.9GB SUPPLIED?
when running some apps/games from a microSD card they cause force closes, data loss, and other wacky things to occur. <- is WHY we dont want them stored there...
IS THERE A WAY TO SELECT TO USE THE INTERNAL SD CARD (11.2GB INSTEAD?
...not as far as i can tell, ive tried it all includng removng the microSD card and attempting to install an app, the phone says not enough space even though i had 1.9GBs remaining in the "USB Storage" partition
The T989 SHOULD fil the INTERNAL CARD FIRST in my opinion....
i have over 200 apps/games on my device and ive only had it for ~2 months no media, only apps/games and i have 200mb remaining in the partition allocated for apps and 1.9GB remaining in the "USB Storage" partiton,....I DONT want apps/games stored on my 64GB microSD card, i remove it often, thats where my media is stored....
heres another kicker, the T989 reports a low memory warning and inabilty to store apps in the Intenal (1.9GB) partition at ~200mb, even though most apps are FAR smaller than anything that would impact that remaining space
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WHY WHEN WE MOVE APP TO SD CARD DOES THE PHONE MOVE THE APP TO THE REMOVABLE microSD CARD AND NOT INSTEAD USE THE INTERNAL STORAGE (11.2GB) WHICH IS MORE PLENTIFUL THAN THE 1.9GB SUPPLIED?
IS THERE A WAY TO SELECT TO USE THE INTERNAL SD CARD (11.2GB INSTEAD?
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That 'why' is a bad question and you should feel bad for asking it. It was designed that way in the phone. As to your second question, a proper one, try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&hl=en. It lists in the description what you asked for but seems ambiguous from the pictures.
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^typical XDA...ask simple question, get incorrect answer, LOVE IT. By the way this is a thread i SEARCHED GOOGLE FOR, while being told by another XDA member to USE THE SEARCH FEATURE in a different thread.....sweet
so let me rephrase the goddamn question(s)
WHY WHEN WE MOVE APP TO SD CARD DOES THE PHONE MOVE THE APP TO THE REMOVABLE microSD CARD AND NOT INSTEAD USE THE INTERNAL STORAGE (11.2GB) WHICH IS MORE PLENTIFUL THAN THE 1.9GB SUPPLIED?
when running some apps/games from a microSD card they cause force closes, data loss, and other wacky things to occur. <- is WHY we dont want them stored there...
IS THERE A WAY TO SELECT TO USE THE INTERNAL SD CARD (11.2GB INSTEAD?
...not as far as i can tell, ive tried it all includng removng the microSD card and attempting to install an app, the phone says not enough space even though i had 1.9GBs remaining in the "USB Storage" partition
The T989 SHOULD fil the INTERNAL CARD FIRST in my opinion....
i have over 200 apps/games on my device and ive only had it for ~2 months no media, only apps/games and i have 200mb remaining in the partition allocated for apps and 1.9GB remaining in the "USB Storage" partiton,....I DONT want apps/games stored on my 64GB microSD card, i remove it often, thats where my media is stored....
heres another kicker, the T989 reports a low memory warning and inabilty to store apps in the Intenal (1.9GB) partition at ~200mb, even though most apps are FAR smaller than anything that would impact that remaining space
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It's just the way the partitions are designed in the phone.. It's not necessary for it to be that way but that's the way this phone is designed and there isn't much you can do about it either..Other than moving apps to you external sd card which you apparently don't want to do there isn't really any other options
I downloaded Talking Santa for the kids but it won't let me play it. A screen keeps popping up that there is not enough space on my SC card but I have 50 gigs of free space. My knowledge is very limited but I unmounted and mounted again and that didn't do anything. I'm also getting this error when I try to move an app to my SD card using app 2 sd.
The app seems to have extra files it needs to download when you open it. It looks like it is trying to put those files on the internal storage. Try deleting some files off your internal SD not external.
This phone does a stupid thing where the internal memory is split into two partitions: Internal and SD card. Apks go to internal and data to SD card. But SD card is really just another subsection of your internal memory! Nothing actually goes to your external removable SD card when you move apps to the "SD card". This is a problem that I know no solution to. Any help?
Haven't had an issue with apps not going to SD. I have noticed that it does leave the empty folder behind on my internal SD.
Hey all, I have a question. I got a nice, new sandisk SD card for my GS3 for Christmas. I am use the the Epic where when you put in the SD card all music, photos, backups, downloads, etc go directly to the SD card. How, if possible, can I get it to work this way on the GS3? I haven't been using a SD card up to this point and when looking in my storage it appears as though it made a "fake" SD card location on the phone memory. I want all that gets put in the "fake SD" on my actual SD card. I know I can just copy it over, but will all the apps recognize the move? Also I want future SD items to go directly to the SD card.
Any help is greatly appreciated!!!
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Hey all, I have a question. I got a nice, new sandisk SD card for my GS3 for Christmas. I am use the the Epic where when you put in the SD card all music, photos, backups, downloads, etc go directly to the SD card. How, if possible, can I get it to work this way on the GS3? I haven't been using a SD card up to this point and when looking in my storage it appears as though it made a "fake" SD card location on the phone memory. I want all that gets put in the "fake SD" on my actual SD card. I know I can just copy it over, but will all the apps recognize the move? Also I want future SD items to go directly to the SD card.
Any help is greatly appreciated!!!
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The thing is that on the S3 it also has an internal storage site
Theres a thread in the General section (i think) on how to swap the internal storage with external
Hi, I would like to ask you guys... Is it much better to move my apps to SD Card ( internal ), or should I leave it as it is..?? since there are options in Settings - Device - Apps , to "Move to SD Card" ..
It's quite confusing on Android.., sometimes a SD Card, can be mean an Internal, and an external
Sorry for my bad english
84yu4j1 said:
Hi, I would like to ask you guys... Is it much better to move my apps to SD Card ( internal ), or should I leave it as it is..?? since there are options in Settings - Device - Apps , to "Move to SD Card" ..
It's quite confusing on Android.., sometimes a SD Card, can be mean an Internal, and an external
Sorry for my bad english
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In general, if an app can be moved to the SD card, I do it. Technically, they should load slower from your SD card. The internal storage should be faster. But, it's probably so small that it's not noticeable.
dec0der said:
In general, if an app can be moved to the SD card, I do it. Technically, they should load slower from your SD card. The internal storage should be faster. But, it's probably so small that it's not noticeable.
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I'm still confused here.., what is the phone mean by "move to SD Card" ?? , is it move to internal SD Card,, or to external SD Card..??
that concern me,, because I've only got 2 years old slow external SD Card ( class 2 ) ,,
but if what the Phone mean by Move to SD Card, is to internal SD Card,, I assuredly gonna moved there..
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I'm still confused here.., what is the phone mean by "move to SD Card" ?? , is it move to internal SD Card,, or to external SD Card..??
that concern me,, because I've only got 2 years old slow external SD Card ( class 2 ) ,,
but if what the Phone mean by Move to SD Card, is to internal SD Card,, I assuredly gonna moved there..
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Generally it´s the internal SD where it will be moved. You can use Link2SD to move it to the external or swap the SDcards so the external will become the internal. This is what I´m doing as my new Class10 SDCard is actually faster than the build in internal one.
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Generally it´s the internal SD where it will be moved. You can use Link2SD to move it to the external or swap the SDcards so the external will become the internal. This is what I´m doing as my new Class10 SDCard is actually faster than the build in internal one.
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Any benefit if I move it to internal SD Card,, or it just the same..??
Since my external card are so old and slow, I think I just have to wait to get a better one, before I do the swap thing..
My I know what external SD Card that you use ? Brand and type..
84yu4j1 said:
Any benefit if I move it to internal SD Card,, or it just the same..??
Since my external card are so old and slow, I think I just have to wait to get a better one, before I do the swap thing..
My I know what external SD Card that you use ? Brand and type..
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As long you have enough space left on the partition where your Android is installed, I also wouldn´t move any apps as this is the fastest compared to internal or external SD cards. But for apps like Navigation with its huge maps its better to directly move them to the external SD card.
Previously I was using a Samsung Class10 SDCard but at the moment I´m using a noname Class 10 SDCard I bought on ebay. Doesn´t really matter as both perform very well though the noname is actually a bit faster.
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As long you have enough space left on the partition where your Android is installed, I also wouldn´t move any apps as this is the fastest compared to internal or external SD cards. But for apps like Navigation with its huge maps its better to directly move them to the external SD card.
Previously I was using a Samsung Class10 SDCard but at the moment I´m using a noname Class 10 SDCard I bought on ebay. Doesn´t really matter as both perform very well though the noname is actually a bit faster.
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Excellent... thank you for the explanation,,
oh and I has read about Link2SD ( the used,, how to use it, etc ),, I was though that a Swaping app to make from internal to external, but it wasn't..
And that actually pretty nice,, I think I'm gonna try that, since I don't like swaping EX to IN thing...
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I have the Galaxy tab S 10.5 SM-T800 with stock rom
and when I delete files from EXTERNAL SD Card the space doesn't get affected by the deletion, I did that from both samsung stock file manager or from Samsung videos app of course because the device is not rooted
I've tried that for many times and still the same space (deleted files more than 2 GB)
I've tried also hooking the EXTERNAL SD Card to the PC using a card reader and removed couple of large files and the empty space increased perfectly but not from the Tab itself
I think you may be deleting stuff from the internal sdcard and not external.
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I think you may be deleting stuff from the internal sdcard and not external.
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Excuse me? I'm not following
I'm deleting from SD Card (The external SD Card) not the internal memory
As I stated I tried this from both the tab, and attaching the SD Card to a reader and plug into the PC
The external sd card is called something like ext_sd on the tab s. The internal storage is called sdcard.
Make sure you are deleting from the correct directory.
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The external sd card is called something like ext_sd on the tab s. The internal storage is called sdcard.
Make sure you are deleting from the correct directory.
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Seriously !!
Maybe the sd card is busted try a other one