[Q]A few questions about rooting/odin/recovery - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4

Thank you for taking time out of your day to help.
I just got an s4 on tmobile and I have some questions. I tried rooting it and ran into an error. I found an answer online, which was to flash a stock 4.3 rom via odin, then try the CFT autoroot. So it's all good and I'm rooted. I just have some questions:
1. Why was I able to flash a rom via odin, when all the rom installation guides I see require a CWM or some other recovery?
2. When I try to boot up into recovery I think it's the stock recovery and not a custom recovery that allows me to install a zip. When I used CFT auto root, I saw it booted into a custom recovery to root, did it just get deleted after that?
3. How will my root work with the 4.4 ota? When I check for software updates it says my phone has been modified so they aren't available. So how can I get the ota? Am i better off flashing a custom 4.4 rom? I want closest to stock as possible, so if you have any recommendations for stock 4.4 roms that would be great. Or can I flash the 4.4 stock rom as I did with odin?
4. How does tethering work with root? If I have unlimited data with 2.5gb tethering data, now that I'm rooted, can tmobile tell I'm tethering if I'm using a root tethering app?
Again thank you very much for your help.

1. You did not flash a ROM with Odin, it was firmware.. Very different
2. Yes, I believe that's what cf-auto root does
3. Yes you can flash a 4.4 firmware like you did with 4.3 as long as its for your device, or flash a custom recovery and then a 4.4 ROM
4. Not too familiar with this, but it might be possible to get around it
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serio22 said:
1. You did not flash a ROM with Odin, it was firmware.. Very different
2. Yes, I believe that's what cf-auto root does
3. Yes you can flash a 4.4 firmware like you did with 4.3 as long as its for your device, or flash a custom recovery and then a 4.4 ROM
4. Not too familiar with this, but it might be possible to get around it
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Awesome thank you. If I flash the official 4.4 firmware for my device, will I keep my root?

gregorina said:
Awesome thank you. If I flash the official 4.4 firmware for my device, will I keep my root?
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No if it is an untouched fully stock rom/firmware but there will be rooted versions of the stock firmware/rom.

Stay with root, you will be better off, custom roms are usually available within a day after ota updates
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Flash stock rom - Keep Root & CWM

Hello, I am currently rooted and have CWM 6.0.4.3. installed. I'm on CM11 but want to go back to stock.. Is there an easy way to keep root and go back to stock. Want stock for a few functions that ROMS dont seem to be offering but can keep root and CWM ??
Thanks.
Which phone do you have? You could try flashing a pre-rooted stock ROM via Odin. Then use Odin to flash CWM.
Bt its better to firstly install ur stock rom and then again root it as it takes no longer than 5 mins
DeathNotice said:
Bt its better to firstly install ur stock rom and then again root it as it takes no longer than 5 mins
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Ok perfect, thats what I was looking for. Phone btw is S3 - d2att - SGH i747) Sounds good to install the stock rom and re-root.. I'm sure its here but I have searched everywhere to find a tutorial on this and I cannot find a straight answer.
Would you mind giving me the steps or pointing me to a thread that explains how to and has the files in need to download ?
audit13 said:
Which phone do you have? You could try flashing a pre-rooted stock ROM via Odin. Then use Odin to flash CWM.
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Do you know if there is a step by step on this somewhere ? I dont mind going back to complete stock.. I can just re-root and flash CWM after.
OR
Maybe you could just answer the bigger question : the reason I want to go back to stock is I need to use MHL/HDMI which CM11 doesnt support. I dont want to go back to stock, I would rather even go to another ROM that supports mhl/hdmi.. but if I have to go to stock, than so be it.?
Were you running the stock AT&T 4.3 ROM before you switched to CM11?
audit13 said:
Were you running the stock AT&T 4.3 ROM before you switched to CM11?
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Yes, I bought the phone new and was running stock, Canadian Rogers version and had changed to CM10, then to 11.
robberrobbie said:
Yes, I bought the phone new and was running stock, Canadian Rogers version and had changed to CM10, then to 11.
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Since you installed a custom recovery, that would have tripped the Knox counter which voids the warranty. It's not a problem if the phone is working properly.
Did you update to 4.3 or did it come with 4.3?
You may be better off installing a pre-rooted ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
audit13 said:
Since you installed a custom recovery, that would have tripped the Knox counter which voids the warranty. It's not a problem if the phone is working properly.
Did you update to 4.3 or did it come with 4.3?
You may be better off installing a pre-rooted ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
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It was quite some time ago but I believe I was on ICS 4.0.. and switch to CM from there. Im not worried about the counter for warranty, that's expired on my unit anyways. I just want to be able to use MHL/HDMI function.. so if fine with flashing pre-rooted.. or stock.. or a different ROM that support MHL/HDMI. Can you recommend the easiest route ?
robberrobbie said:
It was quite some time ago but I believe I was on ICS 4.0.. and switch to CM from there. Im not worried about the counter for warranty, that's expired on my unit anyways. I just want to be able to use MHL/HDMI function.. so if fine with flashing pre-rooted.. or stock.. or a different ROM that support MHL/HDMI. Can you recommend the easiest route ?
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I asked about 4.3 because the 4.3 bootloader cannot be downloaded. Flashing via mobile Odin will not touch the bootloader or modem.
You could try a pre-rooted rom and then flash a custom recovery via Odin.
I use Philz Touch from here: http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/d2att
audit13 said:
I asked about 4.3 because the 4.3 bootloader cannot be downloaded. Flashing via mobile Odin will not touch the bootloader or modem.
You could try a pre-rooted rom and then flash a custom recovery via Odin.
I use Philz Touch from here: http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/d2att
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Ok thanks, I will do that. 1 thing I'm not quite sure of is the bootloader situation ? In the first tutorial there is a note : Flashing a prior bootloader can hard/soft brick your device. How do I know ?
I see the steps as:
Extract tar file you downloaded.
Use Odin, put phone into download mode [with phone off, hold vol. down + home + power ], connect to computer and open Odin.
once in odin click the PDA field and select the tar file
Leave Auto Reboot and F. Reset Time checked.
click start and when done let phone reboot.
If you just want a stock, rooted phone with no custom recovery, no plans to flash custom roms, etc. then you can stop HERE.
For my situation, is it just that easy ?
Before flashing, verify the version of your bootloader.
audit13 said:
Before flashing, verify the version of your bootloader.
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OK I have made an effort to go read and figure out how to find out what version of bootloader on my own.. But i cannot find ? Any chance you know... And could help?
You mentioned your have the i747 and Rogers. Do you have the AT&T s3 (i747) or Rogers/Bell/Telus s3 (i747m)?
What is the most recent stock ROM you had on your phone?
Hey. I got the i747m. As for what was the last stock ROM I had, can't say. I know when I bought the phone it was ICS and I had received and update to jellybean.. But them went to cm10. The tutorial I followed told me had me back everything up, which I did. Have it in a file somewhere on my comp, would that tell me ?
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If you are flasjing back to stock you should flash back to the same baseband/bootloader that came stock on your phone.
I'm looking for a stock rooted zip for the sasktel i747m (MF1) that i can flash in CWM....I need to go back to stock to fix a data issue that ive encountered through flashing these new d2lte builds...
Does anyone know if a cwm flashable stock rooted rom exists for Sasktel's i747m with baseband MF1 ???I already have the Odin flashable stock rooted zip but don't have a laptop handy until tuesday....And im pretty sure i cant flash that zip in cwm recovery....
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Ariesdroid said:
If you are flasjing back to stock you should flash back to the same baseband/bootloader that came stock on your phone.
I'm looking for a stock rooted zip for the sasktel i747m (MF1) that i can flash in CWM....I need to go back to stock to fix a data issue that ive encountered through flashing these new d2lte builds...
Does anyone know if a cwm flashable stock rooted rom exists for Sasktel's i747m with baseband MF1 ???I already have the Odin flashable stock rooted zip but don't have a laptop handy until tuesday....And im pretty sure i cant flash that zip in cwm recovery....
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I have not seen a stock mf1 ROM that can be flashed in CWM. You could use mobile Odin to flash back to stock and then flash Philz Touch via desktop Odin later.
OK, so back to my question.. If I have the i747M and bought the phone with ICS.. does this help.?
audit13 said:
You mentioned your have the i747 and Rogers. Do you have the AT&T s3 (i747) or Rogers/Bell/Telus s3 (i747m)?
What is the most recent stock ROM you had on your phone?
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Hey there Audit, Sorry to bother you again, I just dont know how to move forward from here and neeeeeed some help.
I have been reading for days and days have not found a straight answer for my issue and I dont want to just go ahead and start flashing when I dont know if its the right method ?
I dont know how to get back to stock from where I'm at, I dont know how to figure out what bootloader I have (you asked me)
I have found a couple links on XDA that I can follow, I'm just not sure if they apply to my situation ?
This is a pretty detailed response/tutorial, but I dont know if I can just go ahead with this or not ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2186967
This is also very detailed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
Any help would be greatly appreciated !
robberrobbie said:
OK, so back to my question.. If I have the i747M and bought the phone with ICS.. does this help.?
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If you are sure you have the Rogers i747m and you have never loaded a stock Rogers 4.3 ROM onto your phone, you could use desktop Odin to flash a pre-rooted 4.1.2 ROM from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426.
Flashing the pre-rooted 4.1.2 ROM will return the phone to completely stock, wipe out all installed apps and data, and you will have root. I do not recommend flashing the Rogers 4.3 pre-rooted ROM from the link.
Once you are able to boot into the phone and set things up, you can flash Philz Touch from Odin which will give you a custom recovery on a rooted stock 4.1.2 ROM.

Q: How To Root?

i just got this phone and i need to know how to root lol. i'm on 4.3 and the mjb modem. is there a way to root it?
pitbullmommy45245 said:
i just got this phone and i need to know how to root lol. i'm on 4.3 and the mjb modem. is there a way to root it?
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Yes, there are a number of ways to root on ver. 4.3. First, you could try CF-Auto Root. Doesn't always work with this version but it's worked for several people. Secondly, you could flash custom recovery via Odin and then flash the pre-rooted and de-knoxed MJ2 ROM as long as you retain your MJB bootloader and modem. You can ensure this by flashing the MJB bootloader and modem at the same time. Thirdly, you could flash TWRP custom recovery (this method doesn't always work with CWM) via Odin. Then flash SuperSU zip via custom recovery. Download and install SuperSU from the Play Store. Run it and install the binary when prompted. The fourth and my preferred method is Safe Root. This option won't trip your warranty bit in case this matters and has worked for me all the time. You can check the SafeRoot download link and installation instructions via the thread below ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
A search of this forum for 4.3 root would have brought you the answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538991 You can fond your solution here.
Ian
w98seeng said:
A search of this forum for 4.3 root would have brought you the answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538991 You can fond your solution here.
Ian
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thank you i was kinda wary of cf auto root. i tried it on a verizon one that i had and it always failed lol. but it worked on this one! lol. i had a s3 that was verizon and updated to 4.3 and i couldn't download any aosp roms and could only install i think it was mlb. with it being rooted this way can i install any rom? and do i need to install cwm or a recovery?
pitbullmommy45245 said:
thank you i was kinda wary of cf auto root. i tried it on a verizon one that i had and it always failed lol. but it worked on this one! lol. i had a s3 that was verizon and updated to 4.3 and i couldn't download any aosp roms and could only install i think it was mlb. with it being rooted this way can i install any rom? and do i need to install cwm or a recovery?
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I just rooted yesterday again (after being on stock 4.3 touchwiz for the longest time, what a disaster). I used the CF auto-root method as well. I downloaded + flashed TWRP recovery using odin, and was all set to install AOSP roms. You can use CWM if you want but a few devs recommend TWRP so that's what I have stuck with.
DarthDerron said:
I just rooted yesterday again (after being on stock 4.3 touchwiz for the longest time, what a disaster). I used the CF auto-root method as well. I downloaded + flashed TWRP recovery using odin, and was all set to install AOSP roms. You can use CWM if you want but a few devs recommend TWRP so that's what I have stuck with.
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are there any roms that you would recomend that are up kept up to date.
pitbullmommy45245 said:
are there any roms that you would recomend that are up kept up to date.
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I'm using tasks aokp right now, he always provides stable and reliable releases. Quantum, SlimKat and LiquidSmooth are all ones I've enjoyed back in 4.2 days so I'm sure those are good as well
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pitbullmommy45245 said:
are there any roms that you would recomend that are up kept up to date.
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Also crom and validus are good choices.
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jasvncnt1 said:
Also crom and validus are good choices.
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i flashed carbons 6-1 nightly. its running super smooth.

[Q] help- rooting problem

hey guys,
I need help asap! I tried using the video on this website to root my tmobile S4. I downloaded Kies, Odin 3.07, ROOT_M919UVUAMDL.zip, and CWM as recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.3.2-jfltetmo.tar, I did NOT install triangle away( i forgot). I went through the steps and passed in Odin. then, when I pulled the battery and booted in CWM i couldnt find the file so i went to the store to buy a sdcard. when I came home i re-ran through Odin and found the root zip on the external sdcard. I successfully installed the root zip and clicked reboot. my problem arose when it showed a "KERNEL IS NOT SEANDROID ENFORCING" in red, and a "SET WARANTY BIT: KERNEL" in yellow. it seems to be frozen in this screen and i can only use the CWM and Download mode. I have tried re-using Odin .
Please help!!
That's an old root method. You can either
1) flash a custom ROM and go about your business
2) Odin back to stock firmware and root with cf-auto root or towelroot
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serio22 said:
That's an old root method. You can either
1) flash a custom ROM and go about your business
2) Odin back to stock firmware and root with cf-auto root or towelroot
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I'm sorry, I'm a Noob. but 1) where can I get a custom ROM and how do i apply it? 2) can you elaborate on your #2?
scott560 said:
I'm sorry, I'm a Noob. but 1) where can I get a custom ROM and how do i apply it? 2) can you elaborate on your #2?
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1) You can find tons of Custom ROMs here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-tmobile/development
You usually flash them to your phone via a Custom Recovery such as CWM or TWRP. Or, is some cases you can use ODIN. Read, Read, Read, Read before your flash. It is very easy to do, but you need to understand what you are doing. All Custom ROMs come pre-rooted.
2) You can download a stock ROM from here:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/
Or, you can use Kies to download and install the most recent firmware for your phone.
TowelRoot is a new option for rooting stock ROMs that are version 4.4.2 (KitKat). This method of rooting doesn't trip the Knox flag.
Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGwMs8JPBhE
Rob
rlichtefeld said:
1) You can find tons of Custom ROMs here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-tmobile/development
You flash them to your phone via ODIN. Read, Read, Read, Read before your flash. It is very easy to do, but you need to understand what you are doing. All Custom ROMs come pre-rooted.
2) You can download a stock ROM from here:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/
Or, you can use Kies to download and install the most recent firmware for your phone.
TowelRoot is a new option for rooting stock ROMs that are version 4.4.2 (KitKat). This method of rooting doesn't trip the Knox flag.
Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGwMs8JPBhE
Rob
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Thanks for replying however, you do not flash custom ROMs via Odin, you need a custom recovery like twrp or cwm.. Stock firmware you do flash via Odin.. And their Knox flag is already tripped, wouldn't matter
serio22 said:
Thanks for replying however, you do not flash custom ROMs via Odin, you need a custom recovery like twrp or cwm.. Stock firmware you do flash via Odin.. And their Knox flag is already tripped, wouldn't matter
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Thanks for correcting me that most of the time you flash Custom ROMs via a Custom Recovery on the S4.
But, if I'm not mistaken you can flash Custom ROMs via ODIN as long as in the right format and you select the correct partition.
However, most of my Custom ROM history is with a HTC device, so I may be mistaken.
rlichtefeld said:
Thanks for correcting me that most of the time you flash Custom ROMs via a Custom Recovery on the S4.
But, if I'm not mistaken you can flash Custom ROMs via ODIN as long as in the right format and you select the correct partition.
However, most of my Custom ROM history is with a HTC device, so I may be mistaken.
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It is possible but 99% of custom ROMs are not made to be flashed with Odin, in the past two years I've only seen about 1. And it is also inconvenient

[Q] Updating a already Rooted Galaxy S3 that's on 4.1?

I rooted my dad's phone a while back ago so he can use tethering in case of emergencies etc. He recently got a smart watch and I wanted to updated it so that he can use it. But it has not been touched since that day. I essentially want rooted stock rom, I'm unaware of where to find that the closest I can find is StockMod kitkat. Which seems to not work on ATT phones? I just want to make sure that I don't brick his only phone on christmas. So is there something I should be aware of?
His model is SGH-i747
Baseband
i747UCDLK3
Build number
jro03
So how do I go about upgrading it? Can I just flash TWRP and flash any rom using TWRP?
I found this, so I should install new TWRP, then flash a specified kernel then flash rom? would this be safe route?
Some of the latest ROMs require a 4.4.2 bootloader and modem.
The simplest and safest way to get the latest bootloader may be to flash back to unrooted stock 4.1.1 and run OTA updates until the phone is running the latest KK ROM. You can then flash TWRP or CWM and a custom ROM.
audit13 said:
Some of the latest ROMs require a 4.4.2 bootloader and modem.
The simplest and safest way to get the latest bootloader may be to flash back to unrooted stock 4.1.1 and run OTA updates until the phone is running the latest KK ROM. You can then flash TWRP or CWM and a custom ROM.
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Would this require flashing with ODIN? I just want it so that it works with root is not required anymore.
Yes, you would flash the 4.1.1 stock ATT ROM via Odin. I prefer Odin 3.07.
You cannot install OTA updates with root.
You can try flashing just the bootloader and modem but I prefer the long slow route of OTA updates.
I rather do it this way, manually so my dad can enjoy it today. I was wondering how can I update it's TWRP? it's at 2.3 but the TWRP manager keeps crashing when I update it.
I highly recommend the latest d2lte version of Philz Touch for recovery.
https://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/d2lte/
Ok I ****ed up, flash that kernel and did whatever and bam ****ed up. Not working... ****, I still ahve download mode and Recovery but it will not boot into the OS. I get a flash of samsung and then nothing else happends...****
I decided to flash stock DLK3 in odin. Then let the updates take it course (my dad doesn't need root) Where Can I find the file?
The stock ATT firmware is on sammobile.com.
If you want root, OTA to the latest 4.4.2, install Philz, flash supersu via recovery.

[Q] bootloader question

Im on stock image 4.3 with root. I just installed TWRP 2.8.6.0 version for 4.3 . As I was looking at the rom's the majority of them want me to be on bootloader 4.2 or 4.4 before I can use the rom. What is the safest and easiest way to get there? the last time I modded a phone was with my HD2.
sorry for the noob question. I have been out of the loop for a while.
Thanks
Freak
If I goto sammobile to download N900TUVUENK3 and flash it with odin would that give me the boat loader I need? also would I need to upgrade twrp at that point? is there a document that covers this? any help would be appreciated.
Yes just be total stock 4.3 then flash the N900TUVUENK3 rom using odin and you will be able to flash any 4.2, 4.4, or 5.0 rom available. You just have to be 100% stock to do it including recovery. After you install the new rom then you can root it and install any custom recovery you want. Thats what I did. Revert to total stock, flashed the NK3 rom, rooted, then installed recovery. After that you will have a 4.2. bootloader and will be to install any rom out there. Hope this helps you out.
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thank you. that worked like a dream

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