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Is there anyway to enable and use LTE on the T999 on T-Mobile?
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Try going to Canada that's the only place that uses the same LTE frequency that T-Mobile will be using. Might work like the Nexus 4
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The T-Mobile network does not have LTE rolled out yet, but the hardware does support LTE.
I'm sure the way to enable LTE will include flashing a new radio, though I'm not aware of any that will enable LTE without bricking the phone or killing data communication on the SGH-T999 specifically.
Edit: So far it would seem that the LTE supposedly in this phone doesn't run on the same frequency spectrum that T-Mobile plans to use for LTE.
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The T-Mobile network does not have LTE rolled out yet, but the hardware does support LTE.
I'm sure the way to enable LTE will include flashing a new radio, though I'm not aware of any that will enable LTE without bricking the phone or killing data communication on the SGH-T999 specifically.
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Says who? I really think people should just drop this subject. And every thread started needs to be closed. There are plenty of threads about this
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plat_ said:
The T-Mobile network does not have LTE rolled out yet, but the hardware does support LTE.
I'm sure the way to enable LTE will include flashing a new radio, though I'm not aware of any that will enable LTE without bricking the phone or killing data communication on the SGH-T999 specifically.
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Can you support this info?
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Samsung says the tmobile s3 is capable of the lte... tmobile says its not... ill trust the people who actually made the phone
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woostar88 said:
Can you support this info?
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@woostar88
I've spent probably two hours in the last few days purely searching and reading whatever specs I can grab, including for FCC ID A3LSGHT999. Every time I'm sure, something knocks me back down to unsure status. It's especially confusing when Samsung, the maker of the phone and the Snapdragon platform it runs on, says it does support LTE - then T-Mobile comes in and says nope (and that it's based on the Snapdragon MSM8260 instead? wtf?).
While they are contradicting their hardware vendor, they have support reps saying both yes and no. No wonder nobody knows anything,
but I'm determined now.
Unfortunately for me I'm not as privy as I should be to the massive amount of terminology and mobile spectrum standards that have been bestowed upon us, but a little more research should bring me up to speed.
My answer until I have a better one is that yes it very much is an MSM8960, and yes, it does support LTE.
No, the LTE this hardware supposedly supports is not using the same frequency spectrum that T-Mobile in the US eventually will (like snoopy1e11 said in this thread).
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clninja said:
Samsung says the tmobile s3 is capable of the lte... tmobile says its not... ill trust the people who actually made the phone
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Of course T-Mobile says it doesn't support LTE. They'll do what they did with the Vibrant. Sell a boat load of them and then release a slightly updated version with full LTE radio. I trust Samsung before TMO anyday.
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newageoutlaw said:
Of course T-Mobile says it doesn't support LTE. They'll do what they did with the Vibrant. Sell a boat load of them and then release a slightly updated version with full LTE radio. I trust Samsung before TMO anyday.
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For all of you saying it's going to support lte, and that our chip is the same as att, answer me this:
Why can we not unlock our device, place a att SIM card into it, register it on att network, and access lte on att network? If all our devices have that same chip that supports lte as you all are claiming, why can't we do this?
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elesbb said:
For all of you saying it's going to support lte, and that our chip is the same as att, answer me this:
Why can we not unlock our device, place a att SIM card into it, register it on att network, and access lte on att network? If all our devices have that same chip that supports lte as you all are claiming, why can't we do this?
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Your first three points have no influence from the chip design; The (in)ability to unlock a device is controlled by software, the (in)ability to use a SIM card from another provider (which is generally the exact same hardware) is controlled by software, and the (in)ability to register it to another provider's network is controlled by software, as long as the hardware radio chipset can speak the network's frequency and mobile protocol.
I don't know off-hand why it won't connect to AT&T's LTE. I'm also not an electronics expert but I can imagine that these chipsets can be controlled with firmware to restrict the frequencies the radio may generate or receive, effectively locking it to a provided number of frequencies assigned to the mobile operator.
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Says who? I really think people should just drop this subject. And every thread started needs to be closed. There are plenty of threads about this
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100% agreed.
The best arguments for and against have already been made. All i see this doing is mirroring all other threads on the same topic. Tempers may flare, infractions might be made, all because no one wants to be wrong and cant wait a year or two when the subject actually becomes relavent.
Search and read. Hint: general section.
It can be disabled on both the hw and sw side. In the end it doesn't matter because the T999 was never certified/cleared by the FCC for LTE. So they'd either have to go back through the process or be fined for breaking the law.
I'm convinced it won't happen, but to each his own opinion.
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The only reason that the tmobile t999 has any LTE files in it is because all the carriers have the same base rom then stack their crap on top of it! I know how to read code and if you break down most of the apps in the phone they will have provisions for all carriers, not just tmobile. Tmobile doesnt even have LTE towers yet so the answer is still no
evil1art said:
The only reason that the tmobile t999 has any LTE files in it is because all the carriers have the same base rom then stack their crap on top of it! I know how to read code and if you break down most of the apps in the phone they will have provisions for all carriers, not just tmobile. Tmobile doesnt even have LTE towers yet so the answer is still no
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In a few select places, T-Mo has LTE. In fact, they'll be sharing towers with Verizon.
But, the true answer to whether or not the T999 can get LTE or not is, gram crackers and apple juice. Yep.
Don_Perrignon said:
In a few select places, T-Mo has LTE. In fact, they'll be sharing towers with Verizon.
But, the true answer to whether or not the T999 can get LTE or not is, gram crackers and apple juice. Yep.
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You're way off... Verizon and T-Mobile are two completely different technologies when it comes to their towers.. unless there is no difference in GSM lte versus cdma lte,
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elesbb said:
You're way off... Verizon and T-Mobile are two completely different technologies when it comes to their towers.. unless there is no difference in GSM lte versus cdma lte,
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Yes, I know, as everyone else, that one is GSM and another is CDMA.
But, fact is that T-Mobile are Verizon are swapping frequencies with one another. What I'm confused about is if this means they're literally using the same towers or if each carrier has so many licenses of certain frequencies and now they're giving up some of those licenses.
I'm confused.
But, what I do know is that:
1. The two are swapping frequencies with one another.
2.Verizon does use GSM LTE.
3. Gram crackers and apple juice determine whether or not the T999 can get LTE.
Don_Perrignon said:
Yes, I know, as everyone else, that one is GSM and another is CDMA.
But, fact is that T-Mobile are Verizon are swapping frequencies with one another. What I'm confused about is if this means they're literally using the same towers or if each carrier has so many licenses of certain frequencies and now they're giving up some of those licenses.
I'm confused.
But, what I do know is that:
1. The two are swapping frequencies with one another.
2.Verizon does use GSM LTE.
3. Gram crackers and apple juice determine whether or not the T999 can get LTE.
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Its simply a spectrum swap. They're not using each others towers. At least not for anything other than roaming services. Tmobile and Verizon will both be able to use this to provide better and more widely available service and coverage to more people. But they will be using tbe newly aquired spectrum on their own towers and equipment. Not each others.
Its one if the conditions Verizon agreed to for FCC approval. Tmobile swaps a small bit of their licensed spectum along with "cash and other concessions" in exchange.
Good for Verizon, good for Tmobile, good for consumers is the reason the FCC made it a condition. Thats how I understand it anyway.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Its simply a spectrum swap. They're not using each others towers. At least not for anything other than roaming services. Tmobile and Verizon will both be able to use this to provide better and more widely available service and coverage to more people. But they will be using tbe newly aquired spectrum on their own towers and equipment. Not each others.
Its one if the conditions Verizon agreed to for FCC approval. Tmobile swaps a small bit of their licensed spectum along with "cash and other concessions" in exchange.
Good for Verizon, good for Tmobile, good for consumers is the reason the FCC made it a condition. Thats how I understand it anyway.
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So, then it's a matter of each carrier having so many licenses to certain spectrums... Like I have 600,000 licenses of something and you have 700,000 of another and we give each other 300,000? Is that kind of what's going on here?
Sort of, but Im not sure it works entirely like that.
I do know that Tmobile received enough to support approximately 60 million new customers in 15 of the top 25 markets, while Verizon received enough to support 22 million, plus cash and such.
I don't really know how the licensing works, but I don't think it goes by the number of users or anything like that, but by frequency ranges. Id imagine theres more to it than just you give me x and I give you y though.
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Such hostility in here over a easy to answer question.
In short:
No there is not a way to enable it, as it has not been implemented by t mo just yet.
Yes it will require a radio update.
Yes the s3 (even the t mo version) is LTE capable.
Was that it or did I miss another question?
T-mobile is pretty evil in my opinion. The galaxy s3 should get the liability to be able to connect to LTE on their network. It isn't fair that they removed LTE capability via a software update. Proof; appleandroidguide on YouTube, watch the first video and you will see
I buy my phones based on what they can do the day I buy them, not what may happen in the future. It would be nice to have the LTE option but I never really expected it despite the promises made by sales staff and customer service. I will go buy a full blown LTE phone if I feel the need.
Sorry but your wrong, the only phone T-Mobile has for sale that has the LTE capabilities is the Note II because its exactly the same as the AT&T version. If you open it up you will find out that the phone may have an LTE radio but no antenna, like the Nexus 4. And really you should but your phone on what you can do now, not down the road.
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Another one of these threads? Really?
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Another one of these threads? Really?
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Yup. Loan him your Tardis so he can go back in time to unbuy the T-mobile Galaxy S3.
Omg my porn loads instantly on hspa, how much faster can lte really be? By the time lte gets to the smaller markets most of us will have moved on anyway
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My Netflix and games and downloads and everything run just fine on HSDPA+ and along with the lte upgrade, HSDPA+ will also receive an upgrade. I'd rather keep my H+ phone which will hey better battery life than LTE....
You gotta ask yourself... Do you really need it?
And if you do ( for reasons such as deeper penetration into buildings so you actually get 4g where you live or work or whatever..not just for faster 4g) then sell your s3 and buy an lte s3 or s4.
Your s3 was launched a year ago..that's a long time in technology. Get over it.
Its like buying a new car then complaining a year later that the newer model has more horsepower and better mpg.
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Omg my porn loads instantly on hspa, how much faster can lte really be? By the time lte gets to the smaller markets most of us will have moved on anyway
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Its more about coverage. Eff ya porn
??Really??
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Yudichh said:
T-mobile is pretty evil in my opinion. The galaxy s3 should get the liability to be able to connect to LTE on their network. It isn't fair that they removed LTE capability via a software update. Proof; appleandroidguide on YouTube, watch the first video and you will see
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Okay how is it a scam? If you bought the phone when it came out(1yr ago) Tmobile wasn't even hinting at lte. You bought the phone with an understanding of what it was capable of. Most people aren't xda people. They don't go on forums and check out detailed specs sheets and breakdowns inquiring about possibilities of a phones hardware. Sometimes I think its a curse to have such knowledge as we know more than the Tmobile reps or any carrier reps do. The xda community is a minority. They aren't going to change anything for us. They know if people want stuff bad enough they will either leave, pay , or stay where they are at. Tmobile will not bend for you or anyone. You know how hard it was for me to get credit from them for something they did (680++$$) ??? Over a week on the phone.
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Just Ranting but here !!
Come on guys Really ? Technogoloy changes so fast these days no and keep up unless you have deep pockets filled with money and still while your standing there while to pay for it a something newer faster nicer sweeter will come a few days after you buy it. This is the name of technology sales my friends. I get HSDPA+ . Sprint pushes out Samsung S3 to people telling them “ Oh it 4G and LTE soon” in the NYC area but out side of the 2-5 miles you may get 3G that’s is it sometimes and another times crap. These carriers for there not for you but for your $$$$. So that’s why I buy my T-mobile phone based on what they can do and for how long. The very fact that you can pull out the sim card and just drop it in a other T-mobile just is a plus. Is this not why we are here because after we Root our phone and we come here for what they don’t give us?
You may enjoy the speed now but think about internetwork operability and the plans to launch voice over LTE via VoIP-based technology and its a no brainer that its something you want.
Keep in mind, it may take entirely new radio technology to take advantage of VoLTE so buying an LTE phone may already be outdated by this year which, besides economic factors, is why I'm waiting to see what happens in 3Q and 4Q
http://www.extremetech.com/tag/volte
If I remember correctly, the T999 gs3 doesn't even have an LTE chip in the phone. That's what tmobile is releasing the T999L that INCLUDES the LTE radio. The OP is an idiot, and if idiots dont wanna take the time to research and learn about stuff, then they deserve every bad thing that happens.
It does have the lte chip but it isn't activated and won't be because they went a different way with lte bands.
http://m.computerworld.com/s/articl...phones_won_t_work_with_T_Mobile_s_LTE_network
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I'm with Videotron carrier in Canada, I have the T999v (v only for videotron, stupid ahah) and I have a fully working LTE network. Our device have the same hardware so T999 IS compatible LTE only T-Mobile popping bad excuse to dont offert it.
I guess I don't understand what the fuss is. When this phone came out for Tmo LTE was not even confirmed. Knowing this, and the fact that absolutely nothing has changed in terms of what has been said about this phone from either Tmo or Samsung about this phone having lte capabilities, there is no scam. We can wish that it was built with the compatible hardware, but the bottom line is that things could be worse, we could be stuck on sprint...
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Steve5400 said:
I guess I don't understand what the fuss is. When this phone came out for Tmo LTE was not even confirmed. Knowing this, and the fact that absolutely nothing has changed in terms of what has been said about this phone from either Tmo or Samsung about this phone having lte capabilities, there is no scam. We can wish that it was built with the compatible hardware, but the bottom line is that things could be worse, we could be stuck on sprint...
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where I would disagree is in your statement about nothing has changed. I too was told multiple times before buying the phone towards the end of the year that it was lte ready and would get it once it came out.
The phone has an LTE amplifier for 700mhz and 1700mhz bands but no modem is mentioned. I would be curious to see a teardown of the V model... Its supposed to be identical to T-Mobile from what I understand...
So it has the lte radio but not the correct one? I been reading different threads on this figuring out if i was gonna get one but don't know if i want to. What lte bands does TMobile use
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The phone has an LTE amplifier for 700mhz and 1700mhz bands but no modem is mentioned. I would be curious to see a teardown of the V model... Its supposed to be identical to T-Mobile from what I understand...
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Yes, at least they say me that but i can confirm that i've already had and 27 mbts bench on Speed test on my S3
Hey guys. I know this phone is new to verizon still but has anyone had any luck trying this out on Tmobile yet? I can't seem to find any information on there being a difference in innards between the Verizon and ATT or Tmobile variant.
I've been using it on metropcs but I can't figure out how to get mms or data faster the edge.
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NSRpxndxhou said:
I've been using it on metropcs but I can't figure out how to get mms or data faster the edge.
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You'll have to find a way to manually enter MetroPCS APN settings. A SIM card by itself usually only provides the most basic connection settings for a phone to use.
Hello, I have a Verizon phone, which I unlocked and I am using with MetroPCS sim card. Everything works except I don't have 4G. I have internet but not 4G. Some ideas how I can fix that and actually use the 4G? Thanks!
dohcvtec said:
Hello, I have a Verizon phone, which I unlocked and I am using with MetroPCS sim card. Everything works except I don't have 4G. I have internet but not 4G. Some ideas how I can fix that and actually use the 4G? Thanks!
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There is no fix. The m7vzw does not get the receive the proper frequency for it. Verizon blocks some radio frequency bands. ****in verizon.
Can't blame Verizon for not allowing other frequencies they don't use on their phones. They have the phones made for their service. So why can't they have it their way?
Actually, I can blame them. It isn't like they give you the phone free. We pay for them. It would be nice if they stopped modifying them to prevent them from using all the functions built into the standard model. Not just radio bands, but the FM radio also. And the fact you can't use htcdev is also BS.
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Actually, I can blame them. It isn't like they give you the phone free. We pay for them. It would be nice if they stopped modifying them to prevent them from using all the functions built into the standard model. Not just radio bands, but the FM radio also. And the fact you can't use htcdev is also BS.
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If you look at the flip side, if you were the carrier wouldn't you have a hard time diagnosing phones...lets say you have 100 different roms. It would be a nightmare to do tech support for a ROM that was not built by them, hence the lock down (look @ Apple). Although you pay for the phone, there should be some type of baseline quality control over the network that Verizon needs to have over their phones. Its like saying you're paying for a Ferrari but you hate the MPG so you want to do an engine swap to a civic engine to achieve 40-50 mpg. Yes, is it possible to do it...maybe...but you wouldn't get the same performance you would expect from a Ferrari.
Yes, I totally hate the fact that you can't use HTCDev, thankfully I was lucky enough to have been one of the few people who was able to use HTC Dev before they blocked the numbers for Verizon. I think they should allow HTC Dev but allow the typical one year warranty on the hardware only...but that's only wishful thinking...=(
Why did Sprint take out the required software for the phone to be and to pick up LTE with the other carriers?
Because they don't want you to. Actually, there's only one phonr that has world LTE. The new oppo. Coincidentally, no US carrier sells it.
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PloniAlmoni said:
Because they don't want you to. Actually, there's only one phonr that has world LTE. The new oppo. Coincidentally, no US carrier sells it.
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But you can use both T-Mobile and ATT and pick each others LTE and with the Verizon you can use Paranoid Android or T Mobile ROM and it'll pick the LTE ... So why not Sprint?
Sprint has a unique triband LTE now also. Though since it didn't ship with that active I don't know if that's responsible....
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Sprint has a unique triband LTE now also. Though since it didn't ship with that active I don't know if that's responsible....
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I think they didn't offer the same bans as the other variant phones.
You already answered the question yourself. With Verizon phone, you can use PA to get access to T-Mobile LTE. Which means one of two things. Either 1> You can use PA on Sprint to get access to T-Mobile LTE, or 2> It isn't a software issue, it's a hardware issue. I'll let you guess which it is.
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You already answered the question yourself. With Verizon phone, you can use PA to get access to T-Mobile LTE. Which means one of two things. Either 1> You can use PA on Sprint to get access to T-Mobile LTE, or 2> It isn't a software issue, it's a hardware issue. I'll let you guess which it is.
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I haven't tried PA with the Sprint because I read that it still won't work. I read something like the bans are not present .. my question is why in the other carries they are but not Sprint.
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I haven't tried PA with the Sprint because I read that it still won't work. I read something like the bans are not present .. my question is why in the other carries they are but not Sprint.
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Different hardware. Just like Verizon has the wireless charging ability. AT&T has an extra noise canceling mic. Sprint has the ability for tri-band LTE.
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Different hardware. Just like Verizon has the wireless charging ability. AT&T has an extra noise canceling mic. Sprint has the ability for tri-band LTE.
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That sucks especially when their 4G was a failed and LET is way behind schedule and now they trying to introduce a better network. LoL it's like they try to keep you with the hope of getting better. Oh well thanks guy, I just did not know if it was a specific reason for it.
Does the developer/unlocked versions have FM radio?
I know the AT&T version does, because I saw it. I'm confused because some sites said it has FM radio and others are saying it does not.
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Does the developer/unlocked versions have FM radio?
I know the AT&T version does, because I saw it. I'm confused because some sites said it has FM radio and others are saying it does not.
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I read too that there was no radio. To my suprise my carrier version (uk) had a radio which worked.
TuneIn is the future
i guess it varies. i just want to know if the developer/unlocked editions being sold on htc.com has the fm radio.
Yes, the DE and unlocked both have FM radio.
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Yes, the DE and unlocked both have FM radio.
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thanks! that's good 2 know
I got that from one of their reps guys, they've been wrong before. Still since they all have the radio and there is no gimped version where they might withhold it in an attempt to get you to buy up you gotta figure there is little reason not to include it. I'm off contract and went DE myself partly based on that information as I live in an area where data often doesn't work but FM is still there for you when when none of your MP3s are quite making you want to click play.
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TuneIn is nice, but doesn't have a "output to speakers" (least not that I found) option like the "NextRadio" app that came on my Sprint M8. (idk about other carries) Makes good use of the speakers!
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Still since they all have the radio and there is no gimped version where they might withhold it in an attempt to get you to buy up you gotta figure there is little reason not to include it.
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Verizon has been having FM permanently disabled on pretty much ALL their higher end phones the last few years. VZN has the ONLY M7 variant with FM antenna pin grounded.
GPE may have the hardware OK, but I don't think it would have an FM app, same as with the M7.
My FM apps are working on someone's rooted M8.
For my apps, root (and a kernel driver for FM) is likely needed; HTC "secured" their FM API on the M7 KitKat.