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[help] Will the Rezound offer more rom options?

Basically, I'm thinking about trading in my Nexus for an HTC Rezound. Don't get me wrong: I freaking love this phone, and have been dying to get it for months. There's nothing wrong with it.
My issue is that I'm a flash-o-holic. Now that the Rezound has an unlocked boot loader, I'm worried that it will have more ROM options.
With the Rezound, I'll eventually be able to run ISC. it can run sense roms. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like with the Rezound I'd be able to flash everything I could with my Nexus PLUS all of the 2.3 and Sense roms, right? and that means more options.
So, I need some clarification:
Can the Nexus run anything other than 4.0 based roms? (like 2.3 based ones)
Can the Nexus potentially run a Sense rom?
With the bigger development community of the Nexus, am I better of staying where I am?
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I don't think the GNex will have developers that will make ROMs based on older versions of Android... I mean why would they? I feel like the dev community of the Galaxy Nexus will be bigger than the Rezound's. This is a Nexus device and Google has amazing support for their Nexus phones. I doubt the Nexus will have a Sense ROM...
There are plenty of ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus right now... it's just that not all of them are on XDA. Check out Rootzwiki for more ROMs! I recommend axi0m 2.1.
Check out my post here:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/12696-ro...rnel-12262011/page__view__findpost__p__334056

Stick with what you have, this is the best phone for flashing roms. This will have the best support considering the support it has already.
~Sent from my Galaxy Nexus ~

I had an Incredible before, and was in love with it. GREAT dev community and tons of ROMs and development even to this day. I liked CM7 and MIUI, but I put a huge value on always being able to come back to Sense. One of my concerns with the Rezound is that the development and the development community will die after a couple months and the next bigger, brighter HTC phone comes out.
There's been enough of the Rezound vs Nexus threads and I'm sorry, so I want the focus in this thread to be only on the differences in the development, development communities, and which will have a bigger variety of ROMs...

I honestly feel like the Galaxy Nexus will have more developers because it's a Google phone. It's practically made for developers so I say just stick with this phone. It has the direct support from Google and there is no middle man between software and hardware.

tifford said:
I had an Incredible before, and was in love with it. GREAT dev community and tons of ROMs and development even to this day. I liked CM7 and MIUI, but I put a huge value on always being able to come back to Sense. One of my concerns with the Rezound is that the development and the development community will die after a couple months and the next bigger, brighter HTC phone comes out.
There's been enough of the Rezound vs Nexus threads and I'm sorry. I want the focus if thus thread to be only on the differences in the development, development communities, and which will have a bigger variety of ROMs...
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Someone is trying to port touchwiz to the Nexus for God knows why.. I doubt we will ever have sense but I don't see the reasoning you have offered, OP. Saying that you always have sense to go back to to me sounds like you'll always be able to go back to stock sense if an ICS rom doesn't workout or something along those lines.. I know having sense means more options, but anything 2.3 will always be inferior to 4.0 in my eyes.
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Not sure why you'd strive to flash 2.3 Sense ROMs on any phone if something newer was available.
You do realize that once HTC starts releasing Sense ICS ROMs, the devs will stop working on the 2.3 ROMs, right?
Just remember, development for a Nexus will always be solid.

ChickenGod said:
There are plenty of ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus right now... it's just that not all of them are on XDA. Check out Rootzwiki for more ROMs! I recommend axi0m 2.1.
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I'm on axi0m 2.1 right now... its awesome with tons of options.
there are tons of roms out there for the nexus already, but they're all basically the same. Yes, AOSP vs CM9 has its differences, but they're different hues of the same color. I want colors, dammit! and I'm sure it'll get there...
I guess I'm just worried that it'll always be ICS with some slight twists, instead of 2.3 AOSP vs cm7 vs miui vs sense vs ice, etc. I like the idea of having all of those options
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i guess I just got used to switching up roms every couple weeks or so with my incredible. I'd run a sense rom for a couple weeks, get bored with it, switch to cm7 for a couple weeks, switch to miui, etc.
I don't like the idea of finding one rom, and sticking with it forever, even if all others are "inferior." I like to mix it up.
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I believe Vicious is working on MIUI for the GNex.

even though the Rezound realistically is the only competition for the Nexus, there:s just the whole "S-OFF" issue. last i heard, they're still trying to acheive that thus no roms yet.

tifford said:
i guess I just got used to switching up roms every couple weeks or so with my incredible. I'd run a sense rom for a couple weeks, get bored with it, switch to cm7 for a couple weeks, switch to miui, etc.
I don't like the idea of finding one rom, and sticking with it forever, even if all others are "inferior." I like to mix it up.
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Remember that the Galaxy Nexus (specifically the VZW version) hasn't exactly been out long enough for there to be 100's of ROMs. Not to mention that it's the first and only ICS device right now.

ALL Recent HTC Phones now are unlockable courtsey of HTC themselves
Not exactly sure what S-Off is but all recent HTC phones are capabable of an unlockable bootloader thanks to HTC themselves. This includes the Rezound. HTCdev.com
http://www.htcdev.com
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/28/htc-makes-all-handsets-released-since-september-2011-unlockable/
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/htc-super-tool-unlocks-bootloader-roots-most-devices/

SamsungVibrant said:
Not exactly sure what S-Off is but all recent HTC phones are capabable of an unlockable bootloader thanks to HTC themselves. This includes the Rezound. HTCdev.com
http://www.htcdev.com
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/28/htc-makes-all-handsets-released-since-september-2011-unlockable/
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/htc-super-tool-unlocks-bootloader-roots-most-devices/
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They still need s off to be able to fully do everything, all that's doing right now is unlocking part of boot loader but from what I hear they still can't flash custom recoverys. Anyhow I love my G Nex and I came from a Rezound I don't even think about going back at all.
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If Sense means that much to you, maybe you should go with the Rezound (plus it has an amazing screen). Just remember that you won't have access to an optimal ICS build for a while. Sense is cool and all, but ICS is a huge step forward for the android OS.
Plus, the GN will be first in line for all software updates, which will keep its dev community on the bleeding edge. Also, as others have pointed out, dev support will be much stronger (and probably longer lasting) for the Galaxy Nexus.

The Nexus is a dev device... doesn't get more from friendly than this.
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Going from ICS 4.x back to anything 2.3.x is like wiping before you poop....pointless!

Nexus has several advantages.
1) bigger screen, hopefully devs will be able to utilize the full screen for all apps
2) virtual keys
therefore even with both having ICS, it won't be exactly the same. (rest of the hardware is debatable as both have pluses and minus - like screen tech/sd card/etc)
Besides, nexus is likely far more popular so the number of devs attracted to this device will likely be much higher.

SamsungVibrant said:
Not exactly sure what S-Off is but all recent HTC phones are capabable of an unlockable bootloader thanks to HTC themselves. This includes the Rezound. HTCdev.com
http://www.htcdev.com
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/28/htc-makes-all-handsets-released-since-september-2011-unlockable/
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/htc-super-tool-unlocks-bootloader-roots-most-devices/
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sure the manufacturer offers the 'unlock' ability, but the carrier has the final say. both the rezound & the droid razr have the ability to be unlocked, but verizon wont let it happen. so with the rezound, since the devs cant get htc to permit the unlock(again, thank you verizon) they've just been attempting a work around now since the phone's been out and to this day are still struggling with it. so no roms/kernals/etc yet.. just a b.s. "temp root".

voxigenboy said:
sure the manufacturer offers the 'unlock' ability, but the carrier has the final say. both the rezound & the droid razr have the ability to be unlocked, but verizon wont let it happen. so with the rezound, since the devs cant get htc to permit the unlock(again, thank you verizon) they've just been attempting a work around now since the phone's been out and to this day are still struggling with it. so no roms/kernals/etc yet.. just a b.s. "temp root".
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Dude.. the Rezound's bootloader has been unlocked, even on Verizon. They're S-ON but with an unlocked bootloader.

Please help me make a decision

Hello, I am a Sensation XL user and I have the opportunity to switch to a GNex(trade). The reason I would switch to Nexus is the SA HD screen, dual core a9cortex, better gpu, really good looking and working OS. I am currently worried about the lifespan of my SXL since it packs a single core snapdragon and a poor WVGA resolution.
The reason I wouldn't switch is a few sense goodies such as swiping to text, smartdialing, facebook integration, editing media etc. along with losing my iBeats earphones and a really good looking design.
I kept telling myself I do not want the trade but the small resolution, ugly looking fonts and icons and periodical Sense lag keeps haunting me. I don't like rooting, I like having things as stock as possible.
Please help me decide I'm very unsure what to do!

people here are trying to port Sense 4.0 on the Nexus and you're trying to get rid of it?
anyway, you should try the different Sensation 4.0.3 ROMs out there before giving up on it.
if you like plain ICS, you can have it on the Sensation as well...both phones are good. If you like Sense, wait until HTC One series comes out and sell your SXL then.
either way, you can't avoid rooting...you can install the ARHD or InsertCoin's ROMs which are as stock as possible on HTC but definately faster...no Sense lag.
you still have a lot to explore on your phone
LE: nevermind, the ROMs i mentioned above are for Sensation, not S XL
but i think HTC released official ICS for you?

zerozoneice said:
people here are trying to port Sense 4.0 on the Nexus and you're trying to get rid of it?
anyway, you should try the different Sensation 4.0.3 ROMs out there before giving up on it.
if you like plain ICS, you can have it on the Sensation as well...both phones are good. If you like Sense, wait until HTC One series comes out and sell your SXL then.
either way, you can't avoid rooting...you can install the ARHD or InsertCoin's ROMs which are as stock as possible on HTC but definately faster...no Sense lag.
you still have a lot to explore on your phone
LE: nevermind, the ROMs i mentioned above are for Sensation, not S XL
but i think HTC released official ICS for you?
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I'm not really that good with the whole root/flash s-off stuff. Even if I dug in this new universe I know there are plenty of problems since there isn't anything official about these homebrew roms. I like my phone but I'm not pleased with the low res and choppy user interface. Maybe Nexus doesn't have the problems htc has with the sense ui (even though my XL has sense 3.5 which should be theoretically faster). My next phone will not be an htc since i've had only htcs since 2010 and am fed up with the looks of it.

G-XtremE said:
I'm not really that good with the whole root/flash s-off stuff. Even if I dug in this new universe I know there are plenty of problems since there isn't anything official about these homebrew roms. I like my phone but I'm not pleased with the low res and choppy user interface. Maybe Nexus doesn't have the problems htc has with the sense ui (even though my XL has sense 3.5 which should be theoretically faster). My next phone will not be an htc since i've had only htcs since 2010 and am fed up with the looks of it.
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Then I would go with the galaxy nexus if I were you. It basically has everything you are looking for. And if you decide to learn to root/unlock boot loaders and what not, the nexus is the easiest to learn with (my opinion) . I think if you go with the galaxy nexus , its a win-win. Good luck
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Gn vs droid razr

Hey guys I have a question for you users of the GN... have any of you went from a RAZR to it? How does everything work? I know it has ICS and I am dying to get it on my RAZR, but I was just wondering if you guys can help me decide on which phone to either keep or if i should get the GN?

I own both, I prefer the gnex, much much better development support, and IMO more fun to use.
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can you elaborate? I'm an android noob (iPhone convert) and never have rooted, etc on my android phones...

The GNex is much more hacker friendly which allows you to work with the OS of the phone. Motorola has a reputation of locking their phones down like fort knox so you cant mess with the internals.

So what are some good things about like rooting and roms? Like I said.. NOOB
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Droid Razr = LAG LAG LAG!
GNexus = 0 Lag, Super smooth and very snappy

There are soooo many comparisons of these two phones on the internets.

What's the best things about rooting?
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matesims23 said:
What's the best things about rooting?
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Google search the benefits of rooting.
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matesims23 said:
What's the best things about rooting?
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having "administrator" access to the phone ...
flashing custom roms with more software development and features
root apps such as LBE privacy guard (must have for me)
fun
doing anything you want with the phone, you are only limited by your knowledge or lack there of

One way to look at it is when Google builds Android they build it for the Nexus models. Then they release the code, the other manufactures then modify the code to work with their hardware.
Now since you are on the Verizon version they modify google's code for their network so you would not have the 100% pure code, only about 98%. It would be purer than Motorola's build.
Also the Razor is a closed platform hardware wise. This is a really good video about the Razor. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/droid-razr-unboxed-the-xda-way-xda-tv/

I think I'm gonna try the nexus
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matesims23 said:
can you elaborate? I'm an android noob (iPhone convert) and never have rooted, etc on my android phones...
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Rooting (completely different from jail-breaking), allows the user to run super user commands on their cell phone. Super user commands and apps generally have much more access to system files, allowing for overclocking (if the kernel supports it), free wifi tethering, and so on. Unlocking the bootloader allows for flashing custom ROMs on the device. Flashing can be done on a locked device, but no kernels (hence no overclocking) can be flashed. This also causes custom ROMs without their own kernel to generally be less stable than those for an unlocked bootloader device. Rooting is necessary for any Android power user, though a bootloader unlock may not always be necessary. Custom kernels often provide massive boosts to performance and add new features, so it is strongly recommended.

Thanks that helps a ton!!! That's the answer I was needing
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matesims23 said:
What's the best things about rooting?
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Rooting gives you admin access to your phone so you can do whatever you want. We'd never buy a computer without admin access, should be same on a phone.

RogerPodacter said:
Rooting gives you admin access to your phone so you can do whatever you want. We'd never buy a computer without admin access, should be same on a phone.
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I understand now ... been doing a ton of reading about roms and such
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I have both as of this minute and I will sell one of them soon. I prefer the gnex but damn does it poor signal compared to my razor.
I don't even have service on my gnex in areas that I have 2 bars on my razor.
I just flashed leaked radios on my gnex and it didn't help. I only use 3g as no 4g at home yet.
I will prob keep the gnex though and hope for a signal fix cause the gnex is faster and just a nicer phone IMO.

...radios? your on the verizon nexus right? arent the leaked radios just for the sprint phones?

The Nexus line is Google's own idea of what an Android device should be; they are the ONLY handsets that are supported directly by Google. Consequently, Nexus phones have an Apple-like software support cycle (say what you want about Apple, the 3GS got iOS 5 before my Droid Charge even got Gingerbread) and huge dev support. Keep in mind that a Nexus phone is never designed to push the bleeding edge; it may have some neat new features, but they're never designed to be powerhouses (some say the N1 was, but IMO it was just in the right place at the right time). A Nexus device is the bone stock Android experience, an exemplar to the rest of the manufacturers on just what an Android device should be.
To summarize:
1.) The absolute best official software support you can get in the Android world, and among the best 3rd party dev support. While some devices released this year will be lucky to get ICS and/or Jelly Bean, you can pretty much rest assured that the GNex will go well into Key Lime Pie officially.
2.) Internal hardware chosen for STABILITY and EFFICIENCY, rather than bleeding edge, untested (and usually buggy) performance. That said, while it isn't cutting edge, the GNex has very solid hardware, and performance is always snappy and smooth.
3.) Usually has some neat perks that most other phones don't have. In the Gnex's case, it's the BEAUTIFUL 720p AMOLED+ display, NFC support, the ultra-fast camera, and of course Ice Cream Sandwich.
After using a plethora of other non-Nexus Android devices, I got absolutely fed up with the apathy that the manufacturers and carriers have toward updating their handsets. The last straw was, as I mentioned, my Droid Charge. Even though Verizon considered it the flagship 4G LTE phone well into last September, it was released with an out-of-date OS to begin with (Froyo; GB had been out for well over half a year already). It didn't get GB until after it had been replaced as a flagship phone, and then was (and remains) ineligible for an update to ICS even though ICS was released only six months after the Charge was released! What the hell is that!?
Never again. Nexus or bust. Trust me, you'll be happy with the GNex.

This helps me a ton.. trying to trade now
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[Q] 'clean' ROMS for G2?

so i've had my galaxy nexus for almost 2.5 years now and getting fed up with its slowness.
im trying to decide between all the 2014 phones which are now dropping in price, nexus 5, G2, etc..etc.. (haven't even looked at other brands yet).
i was initially just looking to get the nexus 5, but G2 has better battery it seems, and i prefer the bigger screen.
Question: can you install a 'pure android' clean 4.4.4 ROM on G2? so that it would be exactly like 4.4.4 on the nexus 5? (or even my galaxy nexus).
Or are the custom ROM's for NON google phones always non-stock in some way, like, a ROM that you can't just download from google and flash - it has to be through a 'third party' like cyanogen -
and if so - is that because of the different hardware which means someone has to create a custom ROM using 4.4.4 as a base?
if so i can't be bothered and i'll just go for the nexus 5.
thanks

I assume you're not after a 4+ year old phone
This is the forum for the HTC G2, may want to check the lg g2 forum and just look through the dev section

demkantor said:
I assume you're not after a 4+ year old phone
This is the forum for the HTC G2, may want to check the lg g2 forum and just look through the dev section
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....oh dear.
thanks.

To htc 10 or not ?

I currently have the note 5. Before that the s5. I love to have options to flash different roms. But I have been on Sammy for the last 10 yearso and know nothing of flashing, rooting or installing custom recovery on htc. I awaited the s7 only to find out it was locked down. Same with the other Samsung. No development. So I'm looking at the htc 10. Will there be a ton of development for htc 10 sprint? Is it hard to root , recovery& flash roms? I had so much development for the s5 I miss those days
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djxn40 said:
I currently have the note 5. Before that the s5. I love to have options to flash different roms. But I have been on Sammy for the last 10 yearso and know nothing of flashing, rooting or installing custom recovery on htc. I awaited the s7 only to find out it was locked down. Same with the other Samsung. No development. So I'm looking at the htc 10. Will there be a ton of development for htc 10 sprint? Is it hard to root , recovery& flash roms? I had so much development for the s5 I miss those days
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My experience with the HTC and setting it up was wonderful. I received it yesterday, and got off work about 5:00, and took it out of the plastic when I got to the hotel I'm staying at. By 9:00 PM I had fired it up, used S-Off to unlock it, flashed TWRP via fastboot, then made a backup, wiped it, and flashed a custom rom.
I'm usually a pre-order guy when I buy flagships, the M10 has been awesome because I was able to achieve s-off after unboxing it, which is the HTC version of allowing flashing recovery, roms, firmware radios, etc from TWRP or a custom recovery.
I can't thank the Sunshine team enough for making an app that allows me to pay $25 for the license, and unlock the phone simply by following the instructions. I've been rooting phones long enough that I previously had to hold a paperclip shorting two pins on the mother board while counting a certain number of seconds and typing commands with other hand to be able to upgrade firmware. So I really appreciate an app that does all the work, and allows me to get right down to business backing up and wiping. Literally, the hardest part of the setup was pointing the device to the right drivers in Windows 10, and that was a computer issue not the phone.
However, I'm an HTC guy, and you've been with Samsung a while. I've installed multiple Sense roms so far, which are HTC based, although VERY custom roms. I can't testify to the AOSP roms and their kernels yet, someone else will have to testify to that, if you're considering that route from the start.
For me, it's a great device so far. It works really well with my Pioneer blue tooth/hands free system in the car that I've been using for voice command searches and navigation, video streaming to my media players, and audio streaming with Pandora, iHeartRadio, google music, etc.
Call quality has been good, and I'm very happy with the build quality and finish of the device in general. I bought it outright from HTC, so I was apprehensive to pull the trigger at retail price, but I don't finance my devices.
Since I'm a fan of sense roms, it was worth it to me to pay more and get a better device experience for my taste than with some of the nexus (not as much cheaper as they used to be) or one of the blu oppo or CM type unlocked phones.

Pretty much what the above poster said. You may not find the sheer quantity of different ROMs that you would find on previous popular Samsung phones (or even previous HTC flagships), but still lots and lots of options. Take a look at the main 10 Dev forum, plenty of great running choices. Similarly I only stick to Sense ROMs so I can't tell you much about AOSP or CM specifically, but that's only because Sense is such a smooth, reliable and enjoyable experience for me. This is the main reason I went for the 10, having previously owned an M7 as well.
For me it comes down to this: Software-wise, if you're someone who makes use of and can't live without all of the small TouchWiz features and add-ons (e.g. hovering your hand to take screenshots, multi-windows, etc) and don't really care as much about having a consistently fluid experience, then stick with Samsung. Otherwise, Sense is the better product imo.

Thanks guys. I generally turn off all those silly features and tune the romantic more for speed
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djxn40 said:
Thanks guys. I generally turn off all those silly features and tune the romantic more for speed
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The chances are great you will love the HTC10. I own all the galaxy S series from the S blaze to the S7, also the note 5 and the note 3 and I can honestly say I would trade any 1 of them for the HTC10!!! I got my HTC10 on release and have not looked back. I am loving the hell out it lol.

djxn40 said:
I currently have the note 5. Before that the s5. I love to have options to flash different roms. But I have been on Sammy for the last 10 yearso and know nothing of flashing, rooting or installing custom recovery on htc. I awaited the s7 only to find out it was locked down. Same with the other Samsung. No development. So I'm looking at the htc 10. Will there be a ton of development for htc 10 sprint? Is it hard to root , recovery& flash roms? I had so much development for the s5 I miss those days
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Why don't you wait until Tuesday to say what Google has to offer with both the pixel and pixel xl ?
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Chad_Petree said:
Why don't you wait until Tuesday to say what Google has to offer with both the pixel and pixel xl ?
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Great advice ! Yeah during my investigation last night I seen were the pixel xl was coming out... I think I want that pixel xl !
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Why don't you wait until Tuesday to say what Google has to offer with both the pixel and pixel xl ?
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I am waiting, but only because I anticipate their release will herald a price drop in the HTC 10. I don't expect the Pixel phones to come with an SD reader, so unless they blow my mind, I doubt I'll be getting one.

Sense is such a lightweight functional skin now with really good features I really can't see the point in getting a pixel instead of this device, I can see why the pixel XL with a bigger screen would be a consideration, really wish htc would make a 5.5" 10... Got to say as well as I run a few phones htc moving the back and recent keys either side of the home button was a genius move... Had a lot of phones this HTC 10 in my opinion is as good as anything else out there at the moment...
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Has anyone tried htc 10 with android auto ( car play).
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djxn40 said:
Has anyone tried htc 10 with android auto ( car play).
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Yes I have. Works the same as on my M7. Mirrorlink also works though a bit useless for me.

HTC M10 Currently $150 may help makeup your mind
http://www.htc.com/us/go/buy-htc-10...n=htc10event&gclid=CLDJwLO6vM8CFYEehgodtQECqA