Basically, I'm thinking about trading in my Nexus for an HTC Rezound. Don't get me wrong: I freaking love this phone, and have been dying to get it for months. There's nothing wrong with it.
My issue is that I'm a flash-o-holic. Now that the Rezound has an unlocked boot loader, I'm worried that it will have more ROM options.
With the Rezound, I'll eventually be able to run ISC. it can run sense roms. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like with the Rezound I'd be able to flash everything I could with my Nexus PLUS all of the 2.3 and Sense roms, right? and that means more options.
So, I need some clarification:
Can the Nexus run anything other than 4.0 based roms? (like 2.3 based ones)
Can the Nexus potentially run a Sense rom?
With the bigger development community of the Nexus, am I better of staying where I am?
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I don't think the GNex will have developers that will make ROMs based on older versions of Android... I mean why would they? I feel like the dev community of the Galaxy Nexus will be bigger than the Rezound's. This is a Nexus device and Google has amazing support for their Nexus phones. I doubt the Nexus will have a Sense ROM...
There are plenty of ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus right now... it's just that not all of them are on XDA. Check out Rootzwiki for more ROMs! I recommend axi0m 2.1.
Check out my post here:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/12696-ro...rnel-12262011/page__view__findpost__p__334056
Stick with what you have, this is the best phone for flashing roms. This will have the best support considering the support it has already.
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I had an Incredible before, and was in love with it. GREAT dev community and tons of ROMs and development even to this day. I liked CM7 and MIUI, but I put a huge value on always being able to come back to Sense. One of my concerns with the Rezound is that the development and the development community will die after a couple months and the next bigger, brighter HTC phone comes out.
There's been enough of the Rezound vs Nexus threads and I'm sorry, so I want the focus in this thread to be only on the differences in the development, development communities, and which will have a bigger variety of ROMs...
I honestly feel like the Galaxy Nexus will have more developers because it's a Google phone. It's practically made for developers so I say just stick with this phone. It has the direct support from Google and there is no middle man between software and hardware.
tifford said:
I had an Incredible before, and was in love with it. GREAT dev community and tons of ROMs and development even to this day. I liked CM7 and MIUI, but I put a huge value on always being able to come back to Sense. One of my concerns with the Rezound is that the development and the development community will die after a couple months and the next bigger, brighter HTC phone comes out.
There's been enough of the Rezound vs Nexus threads and I'm sorry. I want the focus if thus thread to be only on the differences in the development, development communities, and which will have a bigger variety of ROMs...
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Someone is trying to port touchwiz to the Nexus for God knows why.. I doubt we will ever have sense but I don't see the reasoning you have offered, OP. Saying that you always have sense to go back to to me sounds like you'll always be able to go back to stock sense if an ICS rom doesn't workout or something along those lines.. I know having sense means more options, but anything 2.3 will always be inferior to 4.0 in my eyes.
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Not sure why you'd strive to flash 2.3 Sense ROMs on any phone if something newer was available.
You do realize that once HTC starts releasing Sense ICS ROMs, the devs will stop working on the 2.3 ROMs, right?
Just remember, development for a Nexus will always be solid.
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There are plenty of ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus right now... it's just that not all of them are on XDA. Check out Rootzwiki for more ROMs! I recommend axi0m 2.1.
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I'm on axi0m 2.1 right now... its awesome with tons of options.
there are tons of roms out there for the nexus already, but they're all basically the same. Yes, AOSP vs CM9 has its differences, but they're different hues of the same color. I want colors, dammit! and I'm sure it'll get there...
I guess I'm just worried that it'll always be ICS with some slight twists, instead of 2.3 AOSP vs cm7 vs miui vs sense vs ice, etc. I like the idea of having all of those options
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i guess I just got used to switching up roms every couple weeks or so with my incredible. I'd run a sense rom for a couple weeks, get bored with it, switch to cm7 for a couple weeks, switch to miui, etc.
I don't like the idea of finding one rom, and sticking with it forever, even if all others are "inferior." I like to mix it up.
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I believe Vicious is working on MIUI for the GNex.
even though the Rezound realistically is the only competition for the Nexus, there:s just the whole "S-OFF" issue. last i heard, they're still trying to acheive that thus no roms yet.
tifford said:
i guess I just got used to switching up roms every couple weeks or so with my incredible. I'd run a sense rom for a couple weeks, get bored with it, switch to cm7 for a couple weeks, switch to miui, etc.
I don't like the idea of finding one rom, and sticking with it forever, even if all others are "inferior." I like to mix it up.
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Remember that the Galaxy Nexus (specifically the VZW version) hasn't exactly been out long enough for there to be 100's of ROMs. Not to mention that it's the first and only ICS device right now.
ALL Recent HTC Phones now are unlockable courtsey of HTC themselves
Not exactly sure what S-Off is but all recent HTC phones are capabable of an unlockable bootloader thanks to HTC themselves. This includes the Rezound. HTCdev.com
http://www.htcdev.com
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/28/htc-makes-all-handsets-released-since-september-2011-unlockable/
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/htc-super-tool-unlocks-bootloader-roots-most-devices/
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Not exactly sure what S-Off is but all recent HTC phones are capabable of an unlockable bootloader thanks to HTC themselves. This includes the Rezound. HTCdev.com
http://www.htcdev.com
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/28/htc-makes-all-handsets-released-since-september-2011-unlockable/
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/htc-super-tool-unlocks-bootloader-roots-most-devices/
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They still need s off to be able to fully do everything, all that's doing right now is unlocking part of boot loader but from what I hear they still can't flash custom recoverys. Anyhow I love my G Nex and I came from a Rezound I don't even think about going back at all.
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If Sense means that much to you, maybe you should go with the Rezound (plus it has an amazing screen). Just remember that you won't have access to an optimal ICS build for a while. Sense is cool and all, but ICS is a huge step forward for the android OS.
Plus, the GN will be first in line for all software updates, which will keep its dev community on the bleeding edge. Also, as others have pointed out, dev support will be much stronger (and probably longer lasting) for the Galaxy Nexus.
The Nexus is a dev device... doesn't get more from friendly than this.
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Going from ICS 4.x back to anything 2.3.x is like wiping before you poop....pointless!
Nexus has several advantages.
1) bigger screen, hopefully devs will be able to utilize the full screen for all apps
2) virtual keys
therefore even with both having ICS, it won't be exactly the same. (rest of the hardware is debatable as both have pluses and minus - like screen tech/sd card/etc)
Besides, nexus is likely far more popular so the number of devs attracted to this device will likely be much higher.
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Not exactly sure what S-Off is but all recent HTC phones are capabable of an unlockable bootloader thanks to HTC themselves. This includes the Rezound. HTCdev.com
http://www.htcdev.com
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/28/htc-makes-all-handsets-released-since-september-2011-unlockable/
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/htc-super-tool-unlocks-bootloader-roots-most-devices/
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sure the manufacturer offers the 'unlock' ability, but the carrier has the final say. both the rezound & the droid razr have the ability to be unlocked, but verizon wont let it happen. so with the rezound, since the devs cant get htc to permit the unlock(again, thank you verizon) they've just been attempting a work around now since the phone's been out and to this day are still struggling with it. so no roms/kernals/etc yet.. just a b.s. "temp root".
voxigenboy said:
sure the manufacturer offers the 'unlock' ability, but the carrier has the final say. both the rezound & the droid razr have the ability to be unlocked, but verizon wont let it happen. so with the rezound, since the devs cant get htc to permit the unlock(again, thank you verizon) they've just been attempting a work around now since the phone's been out and to this day are still struggling with it. so no roms/kernals/etc yet.. just a b.s. "temp root".
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Dude.. the Rezound's bootloader has been unlocked, even on Verizon. They're S-ON but with an unlocked bootloader.
I already own HTC One X and HTC sensation Rooting and flashing ROMs over these devices gives you different interfaces to have fun with like flashing sense 5 over sensation or an AOSP ROM over HTC One X
And that like giving your device a new form and shape . so went should do that on Nexus 7 . will I gain anything different from what I have ?
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HTC Venom said:
I already own HTC One X and HTC sensation Rooting and flashing ROMs over these devices gives you different interfaces to have fun with like flashing sense 5 over sensation or an AOSP ROM over HTC One X
And that like giving your device a new form and shape . so went should do that on Nexus 7 . will I gain anything different from what I have ?
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I have rooted all my Android devices, but never owned a Nexus until now (briefly owned a Nexus 7 1st gen and was so impressed, sold it and bought my FHD). I just don't see any need to root my Nexus 7. It does everything I want out of the box. (Plus, I don't want to go to the trouble of having to have my memory erased when I unlock the bootloader).
My other devices "needed" rooting to work the way I like them to. For instance, stock on my Rezound would still be Ice Cream Sandwich if I hadn't flashed a custom ROM running JB 4.3.1, and the Transformer is still technically on 4.2.2.
Of course, YMMV and my guess is most folks here choose to root.
HTC Venom said:
I already own HTC One X and HTC sensation Rooting and flashing ROMs over these devices gives you different interfaces to have fun with like flashing sense 5 over sensation or an AOSP ROM over HTC One X
And that like giving your device a new form and shape . so went should do that on Nexus 7 . will I gain anything different from what I have ?
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The answer to your question of course depends on what you want. I personally don't feel the need to flash any roms on my Nexus devices but I also can't live without the options rooting gives me. I'm a Huge fan of Xposed Framework and some of the modules like GravityBox and YouTube AdAway which works great for someone that has a lot of YouTube subscriptions. This is just my opinion but I just can't imagine having a Nexus device that is not rooted and I do realize there are plenty that are not, my brother is a good example.How can he have a 1st gen N7 and a N5 and not be rooted? The Horror! Horror I Say! No backups (Titanium - Nandroid)! And there are way too many easy mods out there like modified host files, and headphone volume mod and many others. There are some great kernel choices like ElementalX.. Is there a need? I won't dignify that with a response! Wait... I just did!
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I have rooted all my Android devices, but never owned a Nexus until now (briefly owned a Nexus 7 1st gen and was so impressed, sold it and bought my FHD). I just don't see any need to root my Nexus 7. It does everything I want out of the box. (Plus, I don't want to go to the trouble of having to have my memory erased when I unlock the bootloader).
My other devices "needed" rooting to work the way I like them to. For instance, stock on my Rezound would still be Ice Cream Sandwich if I hadn't flashed a custom ROM running JB 4.3.1, and the Transformer is still technically on 4.2.2.
Of course, YMMV and my guess is most folks here choose to root.
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Just a word to the wise...if you must root, do it early. Data lost will be minimal (I rooted within 24hrs, so I lost nothing).
Don't forget that rooting and flashing custom roms are two different things. I feel that rooting is necessary for me, because I like having backups of all my apps, and being able to restore the same app and setups when I transition to a new device, or if I get my current device replaced (which I have had my Htc Evo replaced 4 times, and my tablet replaced once). I can live without it, but I really rather not to.
As for custom roms, that is my choice. I tend to have my main rom, and I flash new roms for fun. Sometimes, the troubleshooting helps to learn more about flashing and encourages trial-and-error. However, that's exactly what some people do not want to deal with.
Do GPE devices get updated about as fast as Nexus devices?
How about typical timing of custom ROMs compared to releases for GPE?
The GPE is more expensive than stock (at least, in the US based on sales for the stock edition) and I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it.
Apologies if I missed something in search.
foosion said:
Do GPE devices get updated about as fast as Nexus devices?
How about typical timing of custom ROMs compared to releases for GPE?
The GPE is more expensive than stock (at least, in the US based on sales for the stock edition) and I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it.
Apologies if I missed something in search.
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Google Play Editions are second to get the updates, usually within a week of the nexus devices, while the lg V500 still hasn't recieved kitkat yet.
Really, I wouldn't worry too much about kitkat or not. A lot of hype. There are a couple of stable roms for the lgv500 now, and only a stock starter rom for the gpe as it is already bare bones, and with the edition of xposed and a custom kernel, doesn't really need anything else. All of the roms are running kitkat as far as i know.
The only note of interest here is that the lgv500 (not GPE) does not currently have the screen adjusted in any of the roms that I know of -- Somebody please correct me if I am wrong about that. There is however, someone working on a custom kernel for the 500 to fix that issue.
Hate to say it but you may want to check out the 8.4 galaxy tab pro.
I've been a Nexus user for the pats few years. I'm diving into the G3 because I'm a sucker for the specs and the phone itself looks great. I have a Nexus 5, but this device makes me want to jump and try something else.
I haven't received it yet, but some of the LG features do look useful. I can't say I like the skin too much though, and I want to try Android L when it is released. My last non-Nexus device was the T-Mobile G2, and it did get a stock Android ROM without much hassle. Is it safe to say the LG G3 will be the same since we're only talking stock Android? I imagine a lot of useful features such as knock-code won't be able to get imported though, am I correct?
Has there been a Sense ROM ported to the Nexus 7? I'm new to the Nexus world and have been a Sense user/lover for a while and would really enjoy a port of this kind.
Lol.
Why buy a Nexus if you want and love HTC Sense? Sell the Nexus and buy a HTC tablet?
nhizzat said:
Lol.
Why buy a Nexus if you want and love HTC Sense? Sell the Nexus and buy a HTC tablet?
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But but... what htc tablet should he buy?? there are no htc tablets running sense (yes the htc flyer does exist but it's extremely outdated)
noahvt said:
But but... what htc tablet should he buy?? there are no htc tablets running sense (yes the htc flyer does exist but it's extremely outdated)
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Sorry for the late reply. I didn't get notice that anyone had replied to my post. Yes indeed there are no HTC tablets out right now. The reason I got a nexus was because I traded my Windows 8 Toshiba Encore for it and the nexus is not a Samsung with Touchwiz which I hate. Not ever having a nexus of any kind I assumed they were much more custom ROM friendly. But maybe not when incorporated with manufacturer's UI.
Thanks for the looking out.
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Sorry for the late reply. I didn't get notice that anyone had replied to my post. Yes indeed there are no HTC tablets out right now. The reason I got a nexus was because I traded my Windows 8 Toshiba Encore for it and the nexus is not a Samsung with Touchwiz which I hate. Not ever having a nexus of any kind I assumed they were much more custom ROM friendly. But maybe not when incorporated with manufacturer's UI.
Thanks for the looking out.
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When considering a Nexus device the whole idea (I think even in Google's part) was to set the 'vanilla benchmark' if you will, for how Android should look and feel and let OEMs paste on their skins on top of this. I agree, of all the OEM skins Sense is (now) far and away the best, but the only reason Nexus Devices have custom ROMs, is for customisation of the "stock" feel as opposed to tweaks of another OEM skin. I'd imagine since the framework for OEM skins is dependent a fair amount on the hardware (or similar hardware) that the OEM produces, it's usually rare to see a different OEM skin on another device. (e.g. Sense usually gets ported between HTC devices and MUCH less so to others, as that's tougher).
You'll come to enjoy the fluidity of Google Android, don't worry, I know I have, being an ex Sense user!
I'd have to say that Motorola's "skin" is, by far, the best.
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I'd have to say that Motorola's "skin" is, by far, the best.
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I suppose, as it's about as close to vanilla Android as you'll get, it doesn't really count (with the Moto extras of courae)
I have an m8 I converted it to GPE two days after I got it I actually really liked sense but I'm impatient and don't want to wait a really long time to get lollipop especially coming from a nexus 5 getting updates instantly I love my nexus 7 though but I hated the n5
HTC One M8 GPE
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I have an m8 I converted it to GPE two days after I got it I actually really liked sense but I'm impatient and don't want to wait a really long time to get lollipop especially coming from a nexus 5 getting updates instantly I love my nexus 7 though but I hated the n5
HTC One M8 GPE
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I have the M7 and just converted it to the GPE and I too liked the look of sense though I like the look of stock Android a little more. How come you didn't like the N5?
Bad battery life,was seeing a lot of hardware failure threads especially bad emmnc,screen quality was meh the only thing I really liked about the n5 was we are the first to get updates but I'm willing to be the second to get updates if I can get a much better device