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Just a question on rooting + roms (sorry)

hey guys
Now i know you've probably heard this a million times and i do appologise but i'm not risking ANYTHING when it comes to rooting etc as ill only kick myself if i brick my device. So flame away if you feel like it but i'm simply being cautious.
I've looked through numerous guides on rooting and loading rom's but everyone is different so i just want to get it 100% right. Ill start with my phone and what i'm after when i root.
Phone: HTC One X (Tegra 3)
Unlocked on vodafone
android version 4.1.1
htc sense 4+
I'm after a rom which will get rid of most of the bloatware on my phone and give it good battery life in general but improved performance for games when needed. The best stable rom i've come to the conclusion for this is cyanogenmod 10. Is that alright for what i need?
I'd like to tweak the cpu and gpu abit to help games like nova 3 play decently, i heard the main issue is something to do with the cpu govenor? Whats the best way around this?
Bascially i'd like advice on the most simplest way of rooting my phone and then installing cyanogen mod. Do i need kernels or anything else?
Many thanks for your patience :good:

If you go to an AOSP based ROM, like CM, your GPS won't work and your battery is likely to be less good than on JB Sense ROM.
When HTC release the kernel source for JB, this situation will change.
You willl need a kernel that is non standard because you're on hboot 1.36. If I remember correctly, post 9308 of one of the CM ROMs is useful.

Thanks for the reply!
In that case i'd rather keep GPS ability as i use the sat nav alot. Could i use franco's kernel on the stock rom on my phone and just use that? That'll give me the options to tweak i need without changing roms.

No faux kernel won't work on a JB rom, there are no custom kernels yet for JB ! The custom kernels that are available only work on the older ICS roms.
Custom kernels will be available when HTC releases the source code
You can flash an older ICS rom with custom kernel that's no problem. But then you have no JB

Ahhh this is all making sense now
Fair enough, ill leave it all stock until they release the source code. I have to say, this is pretty damn confusing and i'm no amateur when it comes to tech and flashing hardware
Just want my One x to play games smoothly. Pretty pants on nearly everything i've tried so far (shadow gun MP, GTA 3, Nova 3, Battle bears)

Is rooting+flashing custom rom a solution to my "prob" ?

Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..

wtr_dhd said:
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ?
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
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Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally, or even just recieving new updates to a current ROM.

sure dude why not.. if u root u can overclock and thus increasing your performance, rom selection is self choice related try every rom and kernel and stick to the one you love
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

WiredPirate said:
Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally. Or even just updates to those ROMs.
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What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..

wtr_dhd said:
What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.

WiredPirate said:
Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Ok thx, should try out CM then maybe, seems the most logical step too. I consciously didn't use the words "best rom" , as that's indeed each one to its own. Though, smoothness is imo an objective thing.

One of the best things about flashing a custom Rom and Kernel is the Fast Charge support! Pretty much if you just use a standard USB port on your PC it will charge as fast as a wall charger.

wtr_dhd said:
Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
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First question... Have you rebooted in awhile?
Second question... How many background tasks are constantly running.
Custom ROM/Kernel makes sense only if you go for a minimalistic ROM/fine-tuned kernel. Honestly, Stock ROM is fine, unless you need features missing. Or look for just straight optimized ROMs like RasBeanJelly Vanilla and others that are only trying to fix bugs and not add bloat.
Kernel, pick your flavor, but always go with 'stable' ones and not nightlies if you want to avoid issues.
For me, I do Stock ROM (or would consider RasBeanJelly Vanilla) at best, and Franco Kernel (though stock is good enough).
Another point... Key Lime Pie (v. 5.0) will be announced likely in a few weeks at Google I/O 2013. Why deal with unlocking the bootloader, flashing ROMS, and Kernels, then to have to wait for source code to be released to get the newest and latest?

Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?

Have you tried to wipe data?
You can try this first if you like stock. If you want to try a smooth custom rom I recommend you xylon + ak kernel.

wtr_dhd said:
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs, but you need to have stock kernel and no other system apps that are not apart of Google's stock Android. However, you wouldn't wait anyways for OTAs since you can just flash the updates that appear on XDA once they arrive. Either via fastboot or the custom recovery (if they work).
If you go to a custom ROM, you will not receive OTAs, (or shouldn't if the ROM was built right). You will have to wait for the ROM to be upgraded by the maintainer of it.

dude try something new other than stock..
CM 10.1 + ak diamond
governor = ondemand
stable,good speed..
give it a try

whitedragonz83 said:
I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs,
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I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
wtr_dhd said:
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus

bk201doesntexist said:
I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.

wtr_dhd said:
Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Again, if you alter system files the OTA will fail, if it needs to update those.

Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?

I am using Purity with Leankernel. Gives me a smooth experience and great battery life.
Also it has the PIE and you can use XPosed framework to get Per App DPI with any ROM like I do.
But I have tried almost all the ROMS in the development section except for a couple maybe. I keep returning to Purity, Vanir and Cataclysm most of the time when I have something important come up and I cannt flash a new ROM every other day.

wtr_dhd said:
Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
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The answer should be obvious... yes.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

T989 Menu Buttons not disabled in call

I searched up and down for this, but for some reason when ever I use many of the roms here my menu buttons are still active when I am in call causing me to push the search button and cause google voice search to pop up. This happens way to often.
It doesnt happen when I use the CM Windows based installer to install the rom, but the battery and performance on that is not too great.
Rushing's Roms dont seem to have this but I dont really like touchwiz, and when I try any roms with the uber kernel they all have this bug and I tried to search in those threads for this but the search engine could not find anything.
I think its UBER kernel related, but also the CM Rom with Diablo kernel does the same thing, and I looked up and down in trickster mod control for button behavior but I just cant find it.
Anyone could point me in the right direction at least?

oh come on, anyone?

TheProfiteer said:
I searched up and down for this, but for some reason when ever I use many of the roms here my menu buttons are still active when I am in call causing me to push the search button and cause google voice search to pop up. This happens way to often.
It doesnt happen when I use the CM Windows based installer to install the rom, but the battery and performance on that is not too great.
Rushing's Roms dont seem to have this but I dont really like touchwiz, and when I try any roms with the uber kernel they all have this bug and I tried to search in those threads for this but the search engine could not find anything.
I think its UBER kernel related, but also the CM Rom with Diablo kernel does the same thing, and I looked up and down in trickster mod control for button behavior but I just cant find it.
Anyone could point me in the right direction at least?
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If it bothers you that much, don't use Uber. Simple.

meekrawb said:
If it bothers you that much, don't use Uber. Simple.
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Its not that I dont want to use UBER or any other Kernel, if its something that IS as a result of the Kernel and everything else is works well I can deal.
but maybe its an issue thats been fixed and I cant seem to locate the thread because I maybe simply do not know how to word it correctly.

TheProfiteer said:
Its not that I dont want to use UBER or any other Kernel, if its something that IS as a result of the Kernel and everything else is works well I can deal.
but maybe its an issue thats been fixed and I cant seem to locate the thread because I maybe simply do not know how to word it correctly.
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Ahh. So do the ROMs still have the problem if you don't flash a different kernel?

meekrawb said:
Ahh. So do the ROMs still have the problem if you don't flash a different kernel?
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been trying it out with various different combinations.
Vanilla AOKP and CM seem ok.
ThDudes's CM 10.2 + Diablo Kernel (Kernel already fused into the rom) button issue still persists, UBER Kernel flashed with TWRP on both AOKP on CM button issue persists.
but then, if I reflash vanilla AOKP or CM through TWRP the issue will still persist.
Its either the Kernel or TWRP, as you "shouldnt" flash UBER through CWP i cant quite isolate the problem.
been going back and forth quite a bit here, I would love to stick with vanilla AOKP or CM but idle battery drain is extremely excessive, and they both crash when trying to change the governor.
I am just trying to find a good stable ground to operate on as I save up for an S4 and to have a well known return point after I go on a flashing spree.
I have only been dabbling with 4.3 based roms, so I havent had the chance to try any previous version roms yet, other than Rushing's Shadow rom which was great with battery, super fast, but sadly had touchwiz which i tried to get used to but it was missing alot of the things I needed.

TheProfiteer said:
I am just trying to find a good stable ground to operate on as I save up for an S4 and to have a well known return point after I go on a flashing spree.
I have only been dabbling with 4.3 based roms, so I havent had the chance to try any previous version roms yet, other than Rushing's Shadow rom which was great with battery, super fast, but sadly had touchwiz which i tried to get used to but it was missing alot of the things I needed.
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I have been using Slimbean 4.3.1 with @Cl3Kener stable kernel for a long while. It has been rock solid for me.

meekrawb said:
I have been using Slimbean 4.3.1 with @Cl3Kener stable kernel for a long while. It has been rock solid for me.
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I'll have to give that a try. Been out of the loop on slimbean, used it for a little on my S1 Vibrant a while ago.
Just flashed LiquidSmooth, and apart from being only 4.1.2 AOSP, seems to be running pretty well.

Is CM the most stable ROM in general? Will it update itself?

Hello - I just flashed CM13 on my nexus 5x. It's working quite well, but I'm wondering two things:
1) when there are Android OTA updates, will I get them? Will I have to reflash a newer build of CM?
2) Is CM regarded as one of, if not the most stable, developed ROM in general? I realize that may be a bit of an opinionated question, but I'll take the chance that it's not, and that it has a fairly clear answer.
Thanks!

First of all, this thread belongs to Q/A section. Not Android Development section.
Secondly, CM has an updater app, that downloads latest nightlies upon ur choice and you can
move them from data partition to internal storage. Then boot to recovery and dirty flash them.
Unless there are huge changes from one nightly to another, you can just dirty flash (no wipes).
If u are using any addons, like gapps, kernels etc, you have to flash them again, after new cm build.
As for stability, you have to flash the rom , use it and decide for yourself.
A quick search could have been usefull. Have a look at this thread ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/official-cyanogenmod-13-released-t3256254
Hope this helps.
And please request moderator to move this thread to q/a section. cheers.

Wrong section. This should go in Q&A.
1. You will not get official OTAs. CM releases their own updates.
2. In my experience CM based ROMs for the 5X have been buggy compared to stock and AOSP based ROMs.
Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

I also would not recommend CM at this point in time. It runs like crap compared to stock or AOSP based ROMs for me. I gave it a fair shake and ran it for a couple weeks, but since flashing to Pure Nexus last week I've noticed a huge difference in how my device performs.
Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

Back to stock baby. Sorry for putting this in the wrong category by the way. I'm not really a power user, I just figured flashing CM would improve the performance of my phone. I love incredible performance in a phone, computer, or whatever. But, ultimately, I just ran this dog back to stock using instructions I found here!
Thanks all. I appreciate the input!

stock is great, but I'd have to say my favorite rom has been PureNexus, since it's stock stable but with added features.
this compared to CM, OxygenOS, and stock Android M

Recommended daily driver ROM

Haven't ran any after market ROMS on the Nexus 5x yet but used to be a CM fan prior to the "shut down". Although I read the devs went to Lineage, just haven't done a whole lot of research on it just yet. By looking through the forums, it looks like my woes are the same as many others. I.e. poor battery life, declining performance, low sound volume ect.
Anyone have a recommendation on a decent ROM and/or MODs to start out with? Any advice would be greatly appreciated so I can get a head start on researching.

My personal suggestion to you would be to stick with the stock rom but use a custom kernel. Often when people are talking about how bad their performance is on their phone it is because their kernel isn't configured correctly.

HesThatGuy said:
My personal suggestion to you would be to stick with the stock rom but use a custom kernel. Often when people are talking about how bad their performance is on their phone it is because their kernel isn't configured correctly.
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I will agree with this. I was running the stock ROM with a kernel for a long time, and it was great. I recently wiped everything and switched to Pure Nexus, but that's cuz I wanted to try F2FS.

My daily driver is PixelRom. Stable enough and looks refreshing among all custom roms that I have tried before. Its stock based, easy install all in one with bootloader and vendor, kernel franco for a bit better battery life. Swansong sound mod…
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I use stock + greenify + lucky patcher + Xposed. Seems to work ok for me so far batterywise. It's my personal opinion more mods more problems so I try to keep it simple.

compileThis said:
I use stock + greenify + lucky patcher + Xposed.
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By using Xposed, I'm assuming you're running MM?

crazyates said:
By using Xposed, I'm assuming you're running MM?
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Oh yeah. MM right out of the box

Pure Z Rom here 7.1.2 stock based with franco kernel
I don't find any custom rom for daily use without problem