Pro Guard LFC (Liquid Fluorine Coat) Anti-Fingerprint - Xperia Z1 Accessories

Hi there,
After dealing with all (decent) screens protector on the market I decided to remove them all even the crappy Sony film and use just an liquid.
I don't care about scratches. I mean our glass should be quite resistant.
My big big problem are fingerprints so I felt particular confident about our Japanese friends and I bought this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CEE913M/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_HCxQsb168QMCN
Tonight I'm going to apply it if someone of you is interested about results lemme know and I'll keep you updated.
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So for the record I removed the sony original film protector, this how it was before:
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Here after I applied the Liquid after 12 hours of use without clean it:
Just to compare, I took a picture of my GF iPhone:
As you can see, still finger prints, but much less than before, and now seems a bit easier to clean too.
Here a neat video that show that (at the moment hehe) is really oleophobic:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5747628/IMG_0652.MOV.mov
Will I buy it again?: Quite expensive, that's true but now I'm quite satisfied, so currently yep I'll buy it again.
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Sure tell us how it goes
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Yeah, I'd like to know as well.

This how was before:
Right now seems much better, but honestly I'll wait to use it all the day to compare.
Stay tuned!

DAddYE said:
This how was before:
Right now seems much better, but honestly I'll wait to use it all the day to compare.
Stay tuned!
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Looks pretty nice. I'm using the Nillkin 9H on front and back and it looks and feels good. I get some smudges, and thats about it.
Hey, is that a landyard attached to the phone?
If so, which one is that?
Thanks

bhagiratha said:
Looks pretty nice. I'm using the Nillkin 9H on front and back and it looks and feels good. I get some smudges, and thats about it.
Hey, is that a landyard attached to the phone?
If so, which one is that?
Thanks
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I got it from my old Lumia 1020

DAddYE said:
I got it from my old Lumia 1020
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Definitely keep us updated, I'm interested in seeing how this works out for you. I'm also curious about those other nano coatings that I keep seeing.

Quick update. I'll post some pictures later. But so far, I'm quite satisfied. I mean is not the silver bullet but my display looks much more clean of finger prints. Sure some are there but quite normal also in phones with a native oleophobic coating. The surface looks also smoother. Keep in mind that I'm also not sure if I applied it fully correctly
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Guys, updated the main thread with before/after.
Check the video too!!!

DAddYE said:
I don't care about scratches. I mean our glass should be quite resistant.
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Quite resistant does not mean you won't get scratches. Corning glass 3 gets scratched. If you don't care then its your call.
It only takes a little bit of sand to do it. Going naked is not worth it.
Fingerprints is not a big deal compared to scratches, at least they come off.
DAddYE said:
My big big problem are fingerprints so I felt particular confident about our Japanese friends and I bought this
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So it creates an oleophobic coat. That coat will wear out over time just like with other finger print resistant protectors.
So i wonder what the frequency for reapplying the coat will be ? 3 months ? 6 months ? less....
I've found precious little info as to durability of these oleophobic coats, people seem to be over the moon when they get the product and then seem to fall silent.
DAddYE said:
Will I buy it again?[/U][/B]: Quite expensive, that's true but now I'm quite satisfied, so currently yep I'll buy it again.
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Wait...you get just one coat with this product ?
One 5ml bottle (about 140 sprays) with 30 polishing cloths, and one washable microfiber cloth
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How many coats does this translate into for $27 ?
How many coats are you supposed to apply in one session ?

One Twelve said:
Quite resistant does not mean you won't get scratches. Corning glass 3 gets scratched. If you don't care then its your call.
It only takes a little bit of sand to do it. Going naked is not worth it.
Fingerprints is not a big deal compared to scratches, at least they come off.
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You're absolutely right, I usually take quite care of my phones, never applied covers or screen protector, the first is just because I usually buy a phone more for the balance between features and esthetic so cover this phone to me means: okay go and buy a Samsung.
The latter because I'm unable to find a good one (without sensor/len holes) which doesn't ruin the colors and the display experience overall.
Fingerprints makes the phone (especially at the end of the day) a dirty bag, which is ashamed to me
One Twelve said:
So it creates an oleophobic coat. That coat will wear out over time just like with other finger print resistant protectors.
So i wonder what the frequency for reapplying the coat will be ? 3 months ? 6 months ? less....
I've found precious little info as to durability of these oleophobic coats, people seem to be over the moon when they get the product and then seem to fall silent.
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I read that too, obviously like for other phones which comes it a native anti fingerprint coating you should not use alcoholic liquids to clean your screen. This will absolutely help, but right now I can't say if will fall within 1 week, 1 month or 1 year. I'll keep you updated.
One Twelve said:
Wait...you get just one coat with this product ?
How many coats does this translate into for $27 ?
How many coats are you supposed to apply in one session ?
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It's supposed to offer some like 130 coats, on the amazon page there aren't many instructions, on their youtube channel they show (IIRC) 1 or 2.
I put A LOT of them, 3 exactly which was huge so IMHO you can have easily at least 50 coats, but again it depends to you. As my GF aways says to me, I tend to exaggerate, so next time I'll try with just 1.5

DAddYE said:
You're absolutely right, I usually take quite care of my phones, never applied covers or screen protector, the first is just because I usually buy a phone more for the balance between features and esthetic so cover this phone to me means: okay go and buy a Samsung.
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Phone esthetic is probably #1 or #2 reason many people went with Z1. So here is the contradiction or let's say conundrum.
You want a good looking phone. You also want to use this phone. If there is no protection it will get scratches.
But you want a good looking phone. So what do you do if it gets scratched. How can you program your brain to ignore those scratches.
Cases there are one or two that look good but the choice is limited otherwise with Z1 for now.
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The latter because I'm unable to find a good one (without sensor/len holes) which doesn't ruin the colors and the display experience overall.
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Nilkin tempered glass has cutout for proximity sensor. I find people are very happy with this one. Brando also has it. Glass-M i'm not sure.
This cutout is essential for proper proximity sensor operation.
For the front facing camera its not required.
DAddYE said:
Fingerprints makes the phone (especially at the end of the day) a dirty bag, which is ashamed to me
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This is personal. But i find that it does not interfere with viewing too much. It's when you look at it at an angle that it looks bad. But guess what Z1 will not work too well at an angle anyway so fingerprints is not problem with this model :laugh:
DAddYE said:
It's supposed to offer some like 130 coats, on the amazon page there aren't many instructions, on their youtube channel they show (IIRC) 1 or 2.
I put A LOT of them, 3 exactly which was huge so IMHO you can have easily at least 50 coats, but again it depends to you. As my GF aways says to me, I tend to exaggerate, so next time I'll try with just 1.5
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Question is what happens when the coating wears out ? Does anybody know ?
Does the screen catch your finger where the coating was before. So its smooth in areas where coating is good and in other areas its little more sticky. This can get a bit annoying after some time.
The advanatage i see with this product is you clean the screen, put another coat and its new again. With the other protectors, once it wears out, then there is no way to apply another coat.
I don't think any phone comes with oleophobic layer on the screen OOTB. It's only on tempered glass protectors or in this case you apply it yourself.

One Twelve said:
Going naked is not worth it.
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Difference in preference
One Twelve said:
So it creates an oleophobic coat. That coat will wear out over time just like with other finger print resistant protectors.
So i wonder what the frequency for reapplying the coat will be ? 3 months ? 6 months ? less....
I've found precious little info as to durability of these oleophobic coats, people seem to be over the moon when they get the product and then seem to fall silent.
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That all depends on how much you dry hump your screen.
I'm two months in now ("Liquid Glass Shield"), and ready for a second coat to see if I can notice any improvement. That will give me a pretty accurate reading (seeing as I'm the only one who knows aprox how much I've been using it day to day.
One Twelve said:
Question is what happens when the coating wears out ? Does anybody know ?
Does the screen catch your finger where the coating was before. So its smooth in areas where coating is good and in other areas its little more sticky. This can get a bit annoying after some time.
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Not getting that.
It becomes a very thin layer, so you sort of wear it down, very miniscule with each time you glide your finger over it.
I suspect the changes are just to slow for you to catch on, and you will just after a long while realize that it has in fact become less smooth.
For me this is no issue, as I will stay ahead of it by re-applying "sooner than later"
I do change the outlook of my phone pretty often, so my movements on the screen are fairly varied.
If you have extremly repetitive movements on the same spot all the time, maybe what you speak of can occur.
Inconclusive without rigid testing I would say
One Twelve said:
I don't think any phone comes with oleophobic layer on the screen OOTB. It's only on tempered glass protectors or in this case you apply it yourself.
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And this is not true

benziii said:
Difference in preference
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Not a very wise one. Come across many people that decided to get protectors because the last one they cared for very carefully ended up getting scratched. These phones lose half their value in a year, if its scratched your resale price goes down further. Up to you.
Do you not see the irony here, how can you say you care about looks and go naked at the same time
You care about the phone in the initial weeks after that you forget about it, other things on your mind. It becomes a daily tool, a means to an end. A bumper with something for the back & front is a minimum. A pouch is another alternative. The ergonomics of these devices really does my head in, first you find something that is comfortable or close to it then you got to do the same with a case.
Another thing is i'm not too bothered about showing off the looks, i don't want to attract attention. Sometimes yes but most times its unnecessary. Say on the street when you're clicking stuff, last thing i'm going to do is show it to a stranger.
benziii said:
That all depends on how much you dry hump your screen.
I'm two months in now ("Liquid Glass Shield"), and ready for a second coat to see if I can notice any improvement. That will give me a pretty accurate reading (seeing as I'm the only one who knows aprox how much I've been using it day to day.
Not getting that.
It becomes a very thin layer, so you sort of wear it down, very miniscule with each time you glide your finger over it.
I suspect the changes are just to slow for you to catch on, and you will just after a long while realize that it has in fact become less smooth.
For me this is no issue, as I will stay ahead of it by re-applying "sooner than later"
I do change the outlook of my phone pretty often, so my movements on the screen are fairly varied.
If you have extremly repetitive movements on the same spot all the time, maybe what you speak of can occur.
Inconclusive without rigid testing I would say
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Am speculating as to what will happen. Have seen liquid applicaiton products being sold as scratch guards but i think the idea is to prevent fingerprints.
benziii said:
And this is not true
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Its not clear whether this comes standard or not as corning offers bare glass too.
Corning offers the option to have an oleophobic coating. Now whether the phone manufacturer chose it or not., which devices have this ez to clean layer or not is unclear.
The docs mention 'easy to clean' but the word oleophobic does not appear. maybe it was not in fashion in 2010 which is when this doc was made.
Complimenting Corning Gorilla Glass is a fluorosilane coating available to promote wipability for removal of fingerprints and residue to re-attain optical clarity.
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How durable is cornings easy-to-wipe coating ?
The ability for easy-to-clean coatings to survive repeated wiping is paramount. As such, a test to repeatedly wipe or rub the surface and test functionality after suitable iterations is required.Testing incorporates the use of a textile instrument used to wipe one cloth across another, to test the resistance of a cloth dye from rubbing off, referred to as a“crock meter”. This was suggested to Corning, as well as the generic use of the textile industry’s standard woven cotton cloth for testing.The test comprises of wiping the cloth across the coated glass surface in a reciprocating manner for the intended duration of wipes, with a load of ~ 1.5 PSI applied to the cloth. After attaining the intended number of wipes, the surface is tested for changes in static contact angle, which indicates coating degradation with severe changes in angles from initially high values for the coating (>100° for water) towards much lower values for base glass (typically <10° for clean, bare glass).
Conceptually this method of wiping imitates the approximate pressure a user would apply to a hand-held device when wiping the device across their shirt or slacks to remove fingerprint oil. Simple calculation suggests that ~10 wipes per day for three years compares to ~10,000 wipes, thus the target value of 20,000 wipes was identified to dictate suitable durability for offering to customers.
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Corning glass 3 specs, no mention of easy to wipe layer in there at all.

One Twelve said:
Do you not see the irony here, how can you say you care about looks and go naked at the same time
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This sentence to me, IS ironic.
I'll flip it for you.
If you care about how your device looks, why would you wrap it up in a clunky case?
People threat their stuff in conjuction with how they care about it.
I'm fortunate enough to be able to go buy another one.
I threat it it very carefully, and if something unforeseen still were to happen, than that is the risk I have taken.
People want to protect their investment, and make it resellable, I get that.
Doesn't mean everyone who don't are reckless.
It's like buying a classy expensive couch, then laying a cheesy plastic on top of it.
Had it for like ten weeks now, and no, still not sick of it
Not important to show it off, but the feel in the hand, and myself admiring it is enough for me.
I wear a skin on the back, so I can put it down on unwelcoming surfaces.
Also get rid of the branding this way, which make it look more sleek imo.
One Twelve said:
Am speculating as to what will happen. Have seen liquid applicaiton products being sold as scratch guards but i think the idea is to prevent fingerprints.
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This seems like a common misconception.
Alot of the products I have checked out, have explained to people in their faq's that it does not make the screen scratch proof.
It's for easier removal of grease, and for a untreated screen, it makes it smooth.
Without it, it will feel jittery, and your finger will start skipping all over.
As for the rest, I will not go into it, as it is beside topic.
I'm not a chemical engineer either, and these semantics serve noe purpose to the thread.
You seem however, interested in knowing how long these products lasts.
I used a crystalusion wipe on the previous Z I had.
Shortly after giving it away to my friend for his birthday, I tested how the screens felt next to each other.
Mine was clearly more smooth with its's fresh layer.
The layer on the Z was then maybe five months old.
So If you think it will last like half a year or more, then you might be dissapointed.
Products differ though, and their might be a better one out there that I have not tried of course

Well I don't use any protectors on my phones except for the very odd time that I don't have either a shirt with a pocket or a jacket on, for those times I use a pouch. At least that way when I'm using the phone it feels nice. I have tried a screen protector but not for me. I see friends that use screen protectors and I have yet to see a good one.
Also I find that without any protection on my phone I am more carfull with it.
I remember back in the day when I had an iphone 4s people used to spend so much on bumpers that they used to put protection on their bumpers. Funny.

very interesting
very nice product!
i will try to find in Brazil.
it has some cons?

DAddYE said:
(...) The latter because I'm unable to find a good one (without sensor/len holes) which doesn't ruin the colors and the display experience overall.(...)
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One Twelve said:
(...) Nilkin tempered glass has cutout for proximity sensor. I find people are very happy with this one. Brando also has it. Glass-M i'm not sure.
This cutout is essential for proper proximity sensor operation.
For the front facing camera its not required.(...)
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Hey there guys. You might be interested in a research I've done on Tempered Glass protectors for Z1, currently available on market: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519604
One of the most recent finds is the Crystal Armor's Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (http://www.crystal-armor.com/#!/items/5291cf428a56105df40007b0). I believe it is the only protector without any cut-out (neither for camera nor for the proximity sensor).
I've also thought that the cutout for the proximity sensor is the essential element, but it seems that it is not after all. I'm not sure if the phone behavior stays the same after the application of the protector, so someone would have to buy it and test it. Since my Glass-M glass protector cracked (phone fell on bathroom tiles literally face down, so the protector most likely saved my screen), I think I will give it a try.

Anyone tried the IMOS screen protector?
Sent from my awesome Sony Xperia Z1

Shander said:
I've also thought that the cutout for the proximity sensor is the essential element, but it seems that it is not after all. I'm not sure if the phone behavior stays the same after the application of the protector, so someone would have to buy it and test it.
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It gets quirky if the sensor is covered. The solution is to re-calibrate the proximity sensor. The Z Ultra lets you do it, i'm not sure if the Z1 can do it. yet.
Shander said:
Since my Glass-M glass protector cracked (phone fell on bathroom tiles literally face down, so the protector most likely saved my screen), I think I will give it a try.
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heh, this is life isn't it. Unpredictable. You took the time to get a good protector and broke it shortly after. But maybe it saved you from worse and that is why you took the trouble to find one

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[Q] XtremeGuard on XPLAY

So around more than a month ago I ordered one piece of XtremeGuard screen protector off eBay from the official retailer. I just really wanted to give it a try even knowing that the Xperia Play already comes with a shatter-proof film fitted on it. My order didn't arrive within the 20-day period so I requested a refund. They refunded my $4 and to my surprise, the item came this afternoon after more than a month since it was ordered.
Now I'm really thinking twice...
So here are my questions:
1. when installing the XtremeGuard screen protector, do I have to remove first the shatter-proof sheet already fitted on the Play's screen?
2. anyone got a video for the installation of XtremeGuard? I very well understand and speak English but then their instruction material is kinda vague. And knowing that the installation involves water and soap, I think this procedure should be taken seriously since it may damage internal circuitries of the phone. So a video of the installation should really help!
Thanks everyone! Will be waiting for your replies!
Screenguards are generally of varying quality. I haven't heard of that particular brand. However, most screen guards are applied in one of two methods:
1) Sticky/Sticker application. The screenguard has a side with a glue applied. You carefully apply it and hope for the best.
2) AdhesionCling with soap/water/alcohol. Basically you strip off the old guards if you have one, clean the screen, then apply a _very thin_ layer of this soap/water/isopropyl-alcohol solution to the screen. You then apply their clingwrap style of screen guard starting from the top and slowly slide it into place, trying to avoid as many bubbles as possible. You then use a credit card or a supplied squeegee tool to try and squeeze out the bubbles while the liquid is still there. If you are lucky and get them all out, let it dry for 4~12 hours. Then it should be stuck there pretty good until something randomly peels the corner.
With all screenguards there are pros and cons.
Pros:
Less likely to scratch screen. Slight bit more impact resistance against breaking your screen. Some provide anti-glare or even tilt-angle shading for privacy (prevents shoulder surfing, but lowers visible angles).
Cons: Slight to moderate less responsiveness and accuracy from the digitizer (thing that recognizes your fingers). Depending on the material and formulation, you may also have a negative tactile response (gummy or sticky, compared to the bare glass). Buildup of gunk around edges of screenguard (this is particularly prevalent on the whole-device type covers, or ones that aren't touching all the way to the bezels).
I can't prescribe an exact way of doing it, but look for some of the YouTube videos on how to apply the ZAGG screen protectors. They apply with the soap/water/alcohol solutions, so it may be close enough to your type to be similar visual instruction.
whoa thanks for that buddy!
now I'm thinking twice again.. I can live with lesser angled views but with LESS RESPONSIVE DIGITIZER? No way!
narflynn619 said:
whoa thanks for that buddy!
now I'm thinking twice again.. I can live with lesser angled views but with LESS RESPONSIVE DIGITIZER? No way!
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Any screen protector will do that. Some do it worse than others. Some do it so slightly that you don't notice it (or you just become adjusted to it over time).
By far my favorite screen protectors are the anti-glares. They don't have that sticky feeling that the BodyGuardz or Zagg ones do, and the viewing angle is butchered. After this anit-glare wears off I will finally also remove the stock one that comes on it. My touch response is very wonky sometimes.
Same deal here I tried the same buyer I'm sure and I had the same problem. Dont use ebay!
Cubsfan3493 said:
Same deal here I tried the same buyer I'm sure and I had the same problem. Dont use ebay!
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why what happened?

ZAGG - Invisible Shield for Xperia Arc

ZAGG - Invisible Shield for Xperia Arc
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The power button is now slightly aligned with the Ishield.
The material is not 100% exact pre-cut size, some edges are not covered, and some are not properly aligned.
The sides was not included, just like the Picture above.
Dirt gathers on the edge of the Shield, some cleaning will require to remove them.
Screen Responsiveness may reduced slightly, specially when you have sweaty fingers.
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Ione had it for my arc, only front though. It did protect, you can't really damage it, BUT and a big but.. I felt that the touchscreen became harder to use, and it was hard to move the finger cross the screen, because of the material it was made of. Maybe it was just me, but they sure do make good products.
i have it on my neo and must say i am disappointed, it works that's true but i have a lot of micro bubbles under my shield that looks horrible. And before i will get blamed for not following installation manual, i followed, took me like 20 minutes but still those bubbles never dissapired. Another thing i do not like is the fact its sticky and gets easily deformed on the edges. Do not buy...
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i have it on my neo and must say i am disappointed, it works that's true but i have a lot of micro bubbles under my shield that looks horrible. And before i will get blamed for not following installation manual, i followed, took me like 20 minutes but still those bubbles never dissapired. Another thing i do not like is the fact its sticky and gets easily deformed on the edges. Do not buy...
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They are the one who will install the ZAGG shield on my phone here, so I may not experience that problem you are facing. If i did see any bubbles on the installation ofcourse they have to fix that as part of their service.
emperact said:
Ione had it for my arc, only front though. It did protect, you can't really damage it, BUT and a big but.. I felt that the touchscreen became harder to use, and it was hard to move the finger cross the screen, because of the material it was made of. Maybe it was just me, but they sure do make good products.
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That's one reason too why I will not replace my pre installed shatterproof screen, because of the sticky feeling on ZAGG.
Back and Sides are one need to be protected for now
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I've had it installed. I've had it previously (2 years ago or more) on my iPhone and I must say that the quality was way better. My invisible shield once the phone was in my pocket and the temperature was high during this summer, it simply started to unstick, especially on the corners. I've received the replacement but did not put it on. If someone is interested, pm me, I can resell it cheaper, cause I am not going to use it definitely...
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oh so you're interested in it too? i saw it in SM also and inquired about it as well... i'll buy one this october and i'll tell how it goes...
i currently have this gel casing for the arc: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Grey-Gel-...&otn=4&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=9222435326255838901
but i feel its true beauty is somewhat lost upon covering the entire thing... so yeah i'm also looking forward if iShield could deliver to my expectations...
shipment for the gel casing took 2 weeks btw in case you're interested...
I have an experience with ZAGG with my old Satio
I bought the full coverage one.. it really help and still shines !!
but..
touch screen becomes less responsive, Satio has Resistive touch screen, even thought it's much better than older ones ( like W960i ) but it still not as responsive as capacitive. the shield notibaly affected the respondivity of the touch screen and the feeling of it...
after some time, the ZAGG becomes yellowish ( like any transparent plastic exposed to sun ) and if you don't take care of cleaning then you will have some issues in the shield's edges where all dust and smudges goes after cleaning...
I'm talking about more than 1 - 2 years of using it.. at the end I decided to remove the shield as it comes not so clean and too yellowish also... plus Satio doesn't worth that now !!
so if you want to replace it after some months ( or each year ) then it's okay but taking it's price into account compared to other solutions make you wonder to use it replace it more than 2 times as the phone will be old enough !!
cryogenix said:
oh so you're interested in it too? i saw it in SM also and inquired about it as well... i'll buy one this october and i'll tell how it goes...
i currently have this gel casing for the arc: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Grey-Gel-...&otn=4&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=9222435326255838901
but i feel its true beauty is somewhat lost upon covering the entire thing... so yeah i'm also looking forward if iShield could deliver to my expectations...
shipment for the gel casing took 2 weeks btw in case you're interested...
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Thats what I liked with IShield, Xperia Arc Stays Sexy
Xajel said:
I have an experience with ZAGG with my old Satio
I bought the full coverage one.. it really help and still shines !!
but..
touch screen becomes less responsive, Satio has Resistive touch screen, even thought it's much better than older ones ( like W960i ) but it still not as responsive as capacitive. the shield notibaly affected the respondivity of the touch screen and the feeling of it...
after some time, the ZAGG becomes yellowish ( like any transparent plastic exposed to sun ) and if you don't take care of cleaning then you will have some issues in the shield's edges where all dust and smudges goes after cleaning...
I'm talking about more than 1 - 2 years of using it.. at the end I decided to remove the shield as it comes not so clean and too yellowish also... plus Satio doesn't worth that now !!
so if you want to replace it after some months ( or each year ) then it's okay but taking it's price into account compared to other solutions make you wonder to use it replace it more than 2 times as the phone will be old enough !!
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Thanks for sharing, I think, more than 1 year is good enough for me before replacing it with a new one , and about the screen protector I might go look for another brand, I don't like the sticky feeling
mhyke13ph
Can you post some pics of your Zagg-protected Arc?
I'm kinda interested on that product.
lawgone said:
mhyke13ph
Can you post some pics of your Zagg-protected Arc?
I'm kinda interested on that product.
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My Arc is still naked at the moment, i accidentally used my money somewhere else
Maybe some time next week or 2nd week of October
Pros:
- very good protection
- durable material
Cons:
- hard to apply (even after washing with soap)...at least in my case
- sticky feeling
- hard to slide on screen
- almost impossible to apply it without dust particles under it
- less screen responsiveness
IMHO there are better solutions out there...vikuiti, clarivue...
But that's just me...
BR
hrvoje123 said:
Pros:
- very good protection
- durable material
Cons:
- hard to apply (even after washing with soap)...at least in my case
- sticky feeling
- hard to slide on screen
- almost impossible to apply it without dust particles under it
- less screen responsiveness
IMHO there are better solutions out there...vikuiti, clarivue...
But that's just me...
BR
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I think that Sticky Feeling is part of the Features for "Improved Grip" which is good for the Body, but i can't say it will be good for the screen too.
Screen Responsiveness and Sticky Feeling on ZAGG screen protector is BAD, according to you guys, so thanks, I will not apply the screen protector, but it will be available in the package so i guess i will reserve it for future use
As for the Application of the Shield, they will apply it for me, it is part of the service when i bought the IShield, so i guess I won't have any problems
@cryogenix
I have ordered mine last week, and they said it will arrive in 2-3 weeks , they only had 3 stocks before it went out. too bad. I bought the Full body Protection for 1,500php
can't wait for it, i'll update this thread and post pics too
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i'll update this thread and post pics too
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please do so cause I would like to know your opinion on IShield, since I'm looking for a good protector for myself...I mean my arc :-D
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hrvoje123 said:
please do so cause I would like to know your opinion on IShield, since I'm looking for a good protector for myself...I mean my arc :-D
BR
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Sure I will, currently its been 2 weeks now, i still have a week to wait
Updated 1st Post
i have just availed one last sunday (at sm which took them 30 mins to apply).
screen responsiveness is still smooth. but with sweaty hands, the sticky rubbery feeling will kick in and hence, that feeling of reduced responsiveness.
tried playing games with it and it responded fine. better even.
mine has a little bit of microbubbles but they said it was normal and i just had to wait for the solution to cure out over time.
texture so far looks like fresh paint over a not-so-smooth wall but then again, they said it will improve to a barely-there smoothness over time.
overall, i like it. my arc is sexy again!
*i bought the full body package btw
cryogenix said:
i have just availed one last sunday (at sm which took them 30 mins to apply).
screen responsiveness is still smooth. but with sweaty hands, the sticky rubbery feeling will kick in and hence, that feeling of reduced responsiveness.
tried playing games with it and it responded fine. better even.
mine has a little bit of microbubbles but they said it was normal and i just had to wait for the solution to cure out over time.
texture so far looks like fresh paint over a not-so-smooth wall but then again, they said it will improve to a barely-there smoothness over time.
overall, i like it. my arc is sexy again!
*i bought the full body package btw
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I was Text Messaged Yesterday, Sunday, that my Ishield for Arc is already available, but didn't have time to go there, so Today I had my Ishield Installed on my Xperia Arc!
I'll Update my 1st Post for a short review and pictures too
@cryogenix
I was asking the Sales Lady(Daisy ), If any one else also ordered and installed Ishield on Xperia Arc, and showed me their log book that someone yesterday also ordered and installed Ishield for Xperia Arc, It was you
and I was curious about the newly opened shop near Ishield, an Accessory Store for phones and gadgets, I was asking for Xperia Arc if they have Casing/Leather Case/Gel Case etc and is available, they said they can request, and their request log book, I saw some people requesting for some Xperia Arc Accessories too.
I just installed the Vikuiti ADQC27.
I think pretty hard to install (it's really the size of the screen, so no space for small mistakes...), but great haptic and the touch works great, so far. But I didn't notice a anti reflection layer yet....
For all who don't want the Zagg protector for the screen.
--Rob-- said:
I just installed the Vikuiti ADQC27.
I think pretty hard to install (it's really the size of the screen, so no space for small mistakes...), but great haptic and the touch works great, so far. But I didn't notice a anti reflection layer yet....
For all who don't want the Zagg protector for the screen.
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Thanks for the Tip
Now my Ishield on my Arc looks better now after the curing stage, but i have yet to confirm, if the sides is also included, because all Arc Ishield available currently has no protection on the sides, unlike in the ZAGG site, or in the picture in my 1st post
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Still confirming about the sides of the Arc, why its not included
I owned one for a Palm Pre and its worth for what it's announced, it's nearly impossible to harm any device with it on(full body). Problem is that as time goes by it becomes full of dust, with some bubbles inside, and its a crime to beauty have an Arc in such conditions.
P.S. sorry for my English =)

Oil/fingerprints on your screen (about 8 months into use)

Hi!
Particularly to people who've owned their GS3 for a number of months: has your screen become a oil/fingerprint magnet? It didn't used to be one in the beginning, but now I get it all the time (I got it in July 2012).
Sometimes, I get that odd rainbow effect when the oil just kind of "sits" on the screen. Disgusting, I know, but my hands aren't that oily...it just seems to pick up a lot more of it than it used to!
I just wipe it on my pants (lol): what do you guys do, if yours has this issue?
I think that's a property inherent to every touchscreen. Good thing about this one, though, is that it's very easy to clean.
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the oleophobic coating has probably worn off
ikjadoon said:
Hi!
Particularly to people who've owned their GS3 for a number of months: has your screen become a oil/fingerprint magnet? It didn't used to be one in the beginning, but now I get it all the time (I got it in July 2012).
Sometimes, I get that odd rainbow effect when the oil just kind of "sits" on the screen. Disgusting, I know, but my hands aren't that oily...it just seems to pick up a lot more of it than it used to!
I just wipe it on my pants (lol): what do you guys do, if yours has this issue?
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I have a zagg HD invisible skin. Super easy to clean. Don't even know its there.
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Its developed micro scratches that are holding in the oils more.
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@CZ Eddie
If I tilt just right in the light, I do have some faint tiny scratches on the screen, but the "finger smears" are all over the screen (i.e. not localized to the scratches). But, I can see them playing a small part...
@dLo GSR
The oleophobic coating! That actually makes a ton of sense, as it just attracts oil like crazy. I Google'd it and it's a known problem with Apple iPhones and iPads (even the iPhone 5's manual says the coating will wear off!). Samsung's manual is worthless in this regard, but I don't think they've got anything better than Apple.
@KorGuy
Yeah, I think I have two options: screen protector (which will also protect against scratches) or re-apply the oleophobic coating (as stated through this iFixIt guide). Hmm...I need to sleep on this (the screen protector looks a lot simpler, haha).
~Ibrahim~
ikjadoon said:
Hi!
Particularly to people who've owned their GS3 for a number of months: has your screen become a oil/fingerprint magnet? It didn't used to be one in the beginning, but now I get it all the time (I got it in July 2012).
Sometimes, I get that odd rainbow effect when the oil just kind of "sits" on the screen. Disgusting, I know, but my hands aren't that oily...it just seems to pick up a lot more of it than it used to!
I just wipe it on my pants (lol): what do you guys do, if yours has this issueOTE]
Yea man mines the same way. When I first got it, it was very resistant to fingerprints now one text message and it's nasty! Have you used any cleaners? I asked my gf to clean my screen and she used windex and I think that may have assisted in taking it off Now I'm using Spigen Ultra Nano Clear and it's great! Anyway, keep me updated if you reapply oleophobic coating. Would like to know how it works!
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Wilcox12 said:
ikjadoon said:
Hi!
Particularly to people who've owned their GS3 for a number of months: has your screen become a oil/fingerprint magnet? It didn't used to be one in the beginning, but now I get it all the time (I got it in July 2012).
Sometimes, I get that odd rainbow effect when the oil just kind of "sits" on the screen. Disgusting, I know, but my hands aren't that oily...it just seems to pick up a lot more of it than it used to!
I just wipe it on my pants (lol): what do you guys do, if yours has this issueOTE]
Yea man mines the same way. When I first got it, it was very resistant to fingerprints now one text message and it's nasty! Have you used any cleaners? I asked my gf to clean my screen and she used windex and I think that may have assisted in taking it off Now I'm using Spigen Ultra Nano Clear and it's great! Anyway, keep me updated if you reapply oleophobic coating. Would like to know how it works!
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Oh, HOLY SNIPPETS. I totally forgot; about a month ago, I used a lens cleaner on the screen! I just checked it....90% alcohol. That probably made this a little premature. Shucks. Whale, that's not the worst thing to happen, haha.
Totally! It might be a few weeks until I get everything, but I'll deliver with either the screen protector I chose or how the reapplying of the coating went.
Cool beans. Thank you, mates!
~Ibrahim~
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dLo GSR said:
the oleophobic coating has probably worn off
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This is exactly what has happened. For this reason, I don't clean my screen unless absolutely necessary.
you have two options, buy this http://www.amazon.com/Anti-fingerprint-Oleophobic-SmartPhone-necessary-yourself/dp/B008HVBU9O
or just apply RainX, it will make it more easy to clean.
eortizr said:
you have two options, buy this http://www.amazon.com/Anti-fingerprint-Oleophobic-SmartPhone-necessary-yourself/dp/B008HVBU9O
or just apply RainX, it will make it more easy to clean.
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I used to have Ghost Armor, but after it got all yellow and orange peely, I threw in the trash. Now I use a super cheap screen protector that came with my really nice case, but its a fingerprint magnet.
Can I just apply RainX to it and it will be better? I have RainX in my garage.
eortizr said:
you have two options, buy this http://www.amazon.com/Anti-fingerprint-Oleophobic-SmartPhone-necessary-yourself/dp/B008HVBU9O
or just apply RainX, it will make it more easy to clean.
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Right...I didn't know about RainX working here (wouldn't it stop hydrophillic things, like water, but not hydrophobic things, like oil?), but it also only lasts 3-4 months on a car (http://www.rainx.com/tips-information/faqs/), so maybe 1 year on a phone? How do you know it's safe to use on the phone?
Yes, the Fusso I listed above; it again only lasts for 3-6 months. Here's a review posted last week of someone using it on their iPad: generally positive, but a commenter also mentions some car waxes as cheaper alternatives.
dLo GSR said:
the oleophobic coating has probably worn off
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I didn't think the GS3 had an oleophobic coating.
Is there any way to prevent this? or should I just keep cleaning it?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003WQMYN0/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/180-5840696-1177505?tag=vglnk-c1061-20
Cleaner that adds a finger proof coating
Hesitant to try a product intended for Apple products...
Heisenberg420 said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003WQMYN0/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/180-5840696-1177505?tag=vglnk-c1061-20
Cleaner that adds a finger proof coating
Hesitant to try a product intended for Apple products...
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Since iPhone also uses gorilla glass I wouldn't think it would be a problem. But I'm still waiting on someone to try these products first!
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Is there any way to prevent this? or should I just keep cleaning it?
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From what I've read the best way to clean your screen is to use distilled water and a microfiber cloth. Supposedly the toxins in tap water can be harmful to your screen. You can get a gallon of distilled water at the grocery store for like 70cents, which is what I've been doing since I bought my screen protector and so far oleophobic coating is still intact!
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Unless you're living somewhere where the tap water is not treated, there shouldn't be any toxins in your tap water. If there are, you've got much bigger problems than oily smartphone screens... There will be some minerals in there and maybe fluoride. I doubt there's anything in tap water that would damage your screen, not that there's anything wrong with using distilled water. In either case, a damp microfibre cloth or a drop of water on your screen wiped with a microfibre cloth should be very effective at cleaning the screen and probably much safer than alcohol or solvent based cleaners (although the literature I've read on Gorilla glass suggests it's resistant to alcohol, acetone and a number of other chemicals, but maybe over time they do wear down the coating).
In any case, I'm really responding to this thread because I recently discovered this product:
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/HOW-TO-COAT-Anti-Fingerprint-Oleophobic-Coating-by-yourself/9682/
Purchase at: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008HVBU9O?tag=ifixitam-20
Here's one with a few reviews: http://www.amazon.com/API-Fingerpri...&ie=UTF8&qid=1361976179&sr=1-1&keywords=fusso
I personally wouldn't put a lot of faith in anything from Monster (maybe they're better now but to me they will always be the company selling ludicrously overpriced HDMI cables and suing anyone with "monster" anywhere in their name regardless of context). But this product looks interesting. It seems to be similar to the original coating used on Gorilla and similar glasses.
I'm wondering if it adds scratch resistance and reduces visibility of existing scratches. If so, I think I'd prefer adding a coat of this every 3 months than using a screen protector. I have a semi-broken HTC phone with the original Gorilla Glass which happens to have a small but visible scratch on it. I think I'm going to order one of these and use the HTC screen to test it on. If it works well I'll try in on my S3 which has a much bigger scratch. I suspect it will be very difficult to photograph but I'll post results when I get it.
compro01 said:
I didn't think the GS3 had an oleophobic coating.
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it does.
eortizr said:
or just apply RainX, it will make it more easy to clean.
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I like that Rain-X option...
I'll probably even try some Aquapel on my good ol' GS1 next time I treat my windshield! :good:
Wouldn't it be simpler to put on a screen protector? I've had a screen protector on mine since day 1 (not even costly, I think I got like 3 for less than $10), and its still going strong... hard to say its even there

Device front glass

Hi dear
Just wonder do you know what is made the front glass of this device?
Do we really need the screen protector?
Is it gorilla glass?
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Glass?
anyone? information?
No screen protection, according to GSM Arena... But being that they didn't get the resolution correct in their specs (1920 x 1080 instead of 2560 x 1600), not sure if I would trust their info completely. Other sites are saying it uses Gorilla Glass 3.
http://www.handheldwar.com/samsung/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition-full-specifications/
Samsung also just purchased an additional 7.4% stake in Corning (maker of Gorilla Glass), so its a pretty safe bet to assume all premium Samsung mobile devices use Gorilla Glass.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-acquires-74-percent-share-gorilla-glass-maker-corning
That being said, I always use screen protectors even with Gorilla Glass, as it is scratch "resistant" not scratch proof. I have a few different protectors coming in this week. Going to test them all with the S Pen and will be sure to post my findings.
Thanks a lot in assume that your replay will b helpful to others as well
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Personally, I do not use a screen protector on a tablet and will not use one on this device. I do use one on all of my smartphones. For me, it is two drastically different use cases. My smartphone is in and out of pockets, in car holders, can be dropped easily, often used while walking, etc. For me, the tablet is much different. I am typically using the tablet while sitting down and when I'm done the case cover goes back over the screen and it sits. I just don't see the need like I do for a smartphone. I find that it really detracts from the experience on a tablet, especially with the S Pen.
jalanjkcarp said:
Personally, I do not use a screen protector on a tablet and will not use one on this device. I do use one on all of my smartphones. For me, it is two drastically different use cases. My smartphone is in and out of pockets, in car holders, can be dropped easily, often used while walking, etc. For me, the tablet is much different. I am typically using the tablet while sitting down and when I'm done the case cover goes back over the screen and it sits. I just don't see the need like I do for a smartphone. I find that it really detracts from the experience on a tablet, especially with the S Pen.
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Wait until you drop your tablet, yes, I've done it (on a Note 8.0), and the case and screen protector saved it.
I am sure that dropping it is a possibility. All I am saying is that my use of the tablet is much different than my use of a smartphone and therefore it is a risk I'm willing to take. I still use a case. I am not sure how you know that a screen protector had anything to do with saving the device when you dropped it. For me, the reduction in usability and screen clarity is greater than the risk of damage. Personal preference.
jalanjkcarp said:
I am not sure how you know that a screen protector had anything to do with saving the device when you dropped it.
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They're called eyes.
californiarailroader said:
They're called eyes.
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Please. The point I was making, assuming you are talking about the glass not breaking, was how would you know that it would have broken without the protector on? If you were talking about a scratch that is obviously something different.
jalanjkcarp said:
Please. The point I was making, assuming you are talking about the glass not breaking, was how would you know that it would have broken without the protector on? If you were talking about a scratch that is obviously something different.
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Since you weren't there, and haven't seen my Note, don't you think you should give me the benefit of the doubt? No matter, it's not worth arguing over, think what you want.
jalanjkcarp said:
Personally, I do not use a screen protector on a tablet and will not use one on this device. I do use one on all of my smartphones. For me, it is two drastically different use cases. My smartphone is in and out of pockets, in car holders, can be dropped easily, often used while walking, etc. For me, the tablet is much different. I am typically using the tablet while sitting down and when I'm done the case cover goes back over the screen and it sits. I just don't see the need like I do for a smartphone. I find that it really detracts from the experience on a tablet, especially with the S Pen.
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I understand your point, but my usage adds a certain twist to the equation... kids. I have 3 (soon to be 4) under the age of 6. They do occasionally get a hold of the tablet, and the protectors are well worth it.
The screen protector I used on my Note 8 didn't inhibit the S Pen at all, and I'm hoping the ones that should be here this week will work just as well.
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i prefer not having a protector on mine also, but they do offer some advantages.
one is that they don't show smudges as much (at least the anti glare don't).
another, is that if you do crack your screen you won't have to worry about shards.
and third is (obviously) scratches.
given that these are pen input devices, getting a grain of sand or other hard material stuck on the tip is easier than you'd think. there are quite a few people scratching their notes (all variants) just from penning and not realizing the nibs have been contaminated.
i may end up getting a protector later b/c once you see a scratch you can't unsee it, lol.
The screen protector saved my phone... and my wallet.
jalanjkcarp said:
Please. The point I was making, assuming you are talking about the glass not breaking, was how would you know that it would have broken without the protector on? If you were talking about a scratch that is obviously something different.
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A friend of mine broke her Galaxy S3. It had a screen/scratch protector on it. The guys at the local mobile store I got the phone repaired at, told me that the protector held together the shattered pieces of glass and also prevented that glass from damaging the LCD underneath. It helped them save the LCD underneath and made the whole process of putting a new glass much simpler.
Cost me only a 1000 rupees, which is about $16.

SHFresh InvisShield Dome Glass

I’ve got a full SGFresh InvisShield Dome Glass Kit with extra loca and UV light. I’ll literally give it to you I just don’t want to pay for shipping.
Anyone who wants it let me .
Mods, this isn’t a sale post. Literally giving this away to whoever wants it first and will cover the cost of having it shipped to them.
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Where are you located?
If in the USA I'll take it. Pending shipping cost
Screen protector has been spoken for
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Pure+ said:
Screen protector has been spoken for
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If it doesn't go through, I'm in, just PM me. Why don't you want it? Just curious.
Pictures
Can you post pictures with the screen protector. They any good
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Screen protector has been spoken for
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They're on sale for 50% of right now. I might get one for my pixel 3 instead of waiting for Whitestone Dome
PuffDaddy_d said:
They're on sale for 50% of right now. I might get one for my pixel 3 instead of waiting for Whitestone Dome
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I was impressed w/ it on my wife's v30... no halo or anything. I think I will pick one up for my 3 xl as well
PuffDaddy_d said:
They're on sale for 50% of right now. I might get one for my pixel 3 instead of waiting for Whitestone Dome
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on amazon? i wanna pick another one up for the regular 3
masri1987 said:
on amazon? i wanna pick another one up for the regular 3
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Directly from the manufacturer website
For those asking: I didn't need/want it because I put a ceramic coating on my phone. Don't have any idea what it looks like as I never even bothered to open it. I've seen good able bad reviews but that's the case with most products so it's hard to speak to the quality. For the price it seemed like a good deal and someone certainly got a good deal on it having to only pay shipping.
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Pure+ said:
For those asking: I didn't need/want it because I put a ceramic coating on my phone. Don't have any idea what it looks like as I never even bothered to open it. I've seen good able bad reviews but that's the case with most products so it's hard to speak to the quality. For the price it seemed like a good deal and someone certainly got a good deal on it having to only pay shipping.
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Can you elaborate on the ceramic coating?
Pure+ said:
For those asking: I didn't need/want it because I put a ceramic coating on my phone. Don't have any idea what it looks like as I never even bothered to open it. I've seen good able bad reviews but that's the case with most products so it's hard to speak to the quality. For the price it seemed like a good deal and someone certainly got a good deal on it having to only pay shipping.
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I would also like to know more about the ceramic coating
Pure+ said:
For those asking: I didn't need/want it because I put a ceramic coating on my phone. Don't have any idea what it looks like as I never even bothered to open it. I've seen good able bad reviews but that's the case with most products so it's hard to speak to the quality. For the price it seemed like a good deal and someone certainly got a good deal on it having to only pay shipping.
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Quality is pretty solid. It covers the entire face of the phone (including the notch) with cutouts for both speakers and the proximity sensor (glass covers both selfie cameras). Does not have an alignment kit like Whitestone so definitely take your time applying it. The only nag I have about it is that it has a dot matrix for some reason...almost like it was supposed to be an edge adhesive screen protector but they decided not to put adhesive on it and just sell it with LOCA. Also worth noting, their "oleophobic nano coating" wipe will leave the glass looking a little hazy after you wipe it on. Be sure to buff/polish it after to make it smooth and shiny again. Personally, the dot matrix bugs me enough (more apparent when the screen is white) to be getting Whitestone Dome when/if it comes out for our phone. Otherwise, the most solid TGSP I've tried for the Pixel 3 XL
JeromeLeung said:
Quality is pretty solid. It covers the entire face of the phone (including the notch) with cutouts for both speakers and the proximity sensor (glass covers both selfie cameras). Does not have an alignment kit like Whitestone so definitely take your time applying it. The only nag I have about it is that it has a dot matrix for some reason...almost like it was supposed to be an edge adhesive screen protector but they decided not to put adhesive on it and just sell it with LOCA. Also worth noting, their "oleophobic nano coating" wipe will leave the glass looking a little hazy after you wipe it on. Be sure to buff/polish it after to make it smooth and shiny again. Personally, the dot matrix bugs me enough (more apparent when the screen is white) to be getting Whitestone Dome when/if it comes out for our phone. Otherwise, the most solid TGSP I've tried for the Pixel 3 XL
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Thank you so much for this review. The dot matrix is an absolute deal breaker for me. I tried to use a screen protector with a dot matrix before and just couldn't un-see all of those dots!
PuffDaddy_d said:
Thank you so much for this review. The dot matrix is an absolute deal breaker for me. I tried to use a screen protector with a dot matrix before and just couldn't un-see all of those dots!
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Once the loca is applied you barely notice it. But when the screen turns all white it almost looks like there's glitter on the screen. You really kind of have to look for it. My guess is that it's similar to how loca is really good at hiding existing scratches and scuffs that your screen may already have. Wish I had another phone to snap a picture of it...
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kos26 said:
Can you elaborate on the ceramic coating?
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kellybrf said:
I would also like to know more about the ceramic coating
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Sorry guys, I've been so swamped recently I forgot xda existed. Basically it's a product commonly used to protected the paint on cars. I used to be in the detail industry and learned all the ins and the outs of the process and after struggling with all the rather poor screen protectors available for our phone figured I might as well not use one at all.
So here goes...
Essentially ceramic coating is a process in which a liquid topical solution is applied to the intended surface and transfers a coating at the nanometer level to said surface. The liquid solution "flashes" over in roughly 1 minute but also as quickly as 10 to 15 seconds. At that point the coating is buffed with a microfiber which picks up all the excess solution and leaves behind a 100% invisible coating. I mean it's literally as if nothing is there, however I can assure you that there is. Anyway at that point your pretty much finished, however it will continue to cure over the next 24 to 72 hours. In my case I simply let my pixel set for 3 days as I don't use it daily. After that you have about the absolute toughest coating possible on your screen short of having a tgsp installed. I think I did this about 2 to 3 weeks ago now and with near daily use it's still help up perfectly. Haven't gotten a single microscratch or microswirling on my phone and the screen is still glassy smooth and fingers glide with extreme ease along the surface of my phone. I'm honestly stunned with how well it's worked. I know it's a game changer when applied to car paint but I didn't have particularly high expectations for my phone. I'll probably continue this with all future devices as well, no point to get a tgsp at this point
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Pure+ said:
Sorry guys, I've been so swamped recently I forgot xda existed. Basically it's a product commonly used to protected the paint on cars. I used to be in the detail industry and learned all the ins and the outs of the process and after struggling with all the rather poor screen protectors available for our phone figured I might as well not use one at all.
So here goes...
Essentially ceramic coating is a process in which a liquid topical solution is applied to the intended surface and transfers a coating at the nanometer level to said surface. The liquid solution "flashes" over in roughly 1 minute but also as quickly as 10 to 15 seconds. At that point the coating is buffed with a microfiber which picks up all the excess solution and leaves behind a 100% invisible coating. I mean it's literally as if nothing is there, however I can assure you that there is. Anyway at that point your pretty much finished, however it will continue to cure over the next 24 to 72 hours. In my case I simply let my pixel set for 3 days as I don't use it daily. After that you have about the absolute toughest coating possible on your screen short of having a tgsp installed. I think I did this about 2 to 3 weeks ago now and with near daily use it's still help up perfectly. Haven't gotten a single microscratch or microswirling on my phone and the screen is still glassy smooth and fingers glide with extreme ease along the surface of my phone. I'm honestly stunned with how well it's worked. I know it's a game changer when applied to car paint but I didn't have particularly high expectations for my phone. I'll probably continue this with all future devices as well, no point to get a tgsp at this point
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thanks, where would one go about getting this done?
Pure+ said:
Sorry guys, I've been so swamped recently I forgot xda existed. Basically it's a product commonly used to protected the paint on cars. I used to be in the detail industry and learned all the ins and the outs of the process and after struggling with all the rather poor screen protectors available for our phone figured I might as well not use one at all.
So here goes...
Essentially ceramic coating is a process in which a liquid topical solution is applied to the intended surface and transfers a coating at the nanometer level to said surface. The liquid solution "flashes" over in roughly 1 minute but also as quickly as 10 to 15 seconds. At that point the coating is buffed with a microfiber which picks up all the excess solution and leaves behind a 100% invisible coating. I mean it's literally as if nothing is there, however I can assure you that there is. Anyway at that point your pretty much finished, however it will continue to cure over the next 24 to 72 hours. In my case I simply let my pixel set for 3 days as I don't use it daily. After that you have about the absolute toughest coating possible on your screen short of having a tgsp installed. I think I did this about 2 to 3 weeks ago now and with near daily use it's still help up perfectly. Haven't gotten a single microscratch or microswirling on my phone and the screen is still glassy smooth and fingers glide with extreme ease along the surface of my phone. I'm honestly stunned with how well it's worked. I know it's a game changer when applied to car paint but I didn't have particularly high expectations for my phone. I'll probably continue this with all future devices as well, no point to get a tgsp at this point
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Thanks! So if/when it does get scratched, how would you remove and reapply?
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Thanks! So if/when it does get scratched, how would you remove and reapply?
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Would be pretty hard to scratch as it is a 8 on the mohs scale of hardness. It essentially is as tough as Sapphire! I have a zodiac watch that's 10+ years old now and I've taken it with me to many places and it's been roughed up some and the glass is still pristine not a single mark on it. My main concern is would it wear off over time, if that is the case you would need to know when to reapply. Edit: found info on a website "A Ceramic Coating is not a substitute for Paint Protection Film, which provides a more comprehensive for of defensive. Rather, it is a premium wax alternative. A Ceramic Coating creates a permanent or semi-permanent bond with a vehicle’s paint, meaning that it does not wash away or break down and does not require repeated application every few months."
in_dmand said:
Thanks! So if/when it does get scratched, how would you remove and reapply?
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If it somehow managed to get scratched it'll just be scratched. Not much to be done about it. However you can reapply any time. I have a coating rated for 5 years on a car, and that's something being exposed to constant uv from the sun and all the elements of weather. I expect that I'll never have to reapply to my phone.
kellybrf said:
thanks, where would one go about getting this done?
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Call some high end car detailers and ask around.
zetsumeikuro said:
Would be pretty hard to scratch as it is a 8 on the mohs scale of hardness. It essentially is as tough as Sapphire! I have a zodiac watch that's 10+ years old now and I've taken it with me to many places and it's been roughed up some and the glass is still pristine not a single mark on it. My main concern is would it wear off over time, if that is the case you would need to know when to reapply. Edit: found info on a website "A Ceramic Coating is not a substitute for Paint Protection Film, which provides a more comprehensive for of defensive. Rather, it is a premium wax alternative. A Ceramic Coating creates a permanent or semi-permanent bond with a vehicle’s paint, meaning that it does not wash away or break down and does not require repeated application every few months."
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It's extremely hard to scratch. I've taken knives to coated paint before and couldn't get a mark on it
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