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stay away.
They Are VERY easily damaged by a stylus. I'm talking barely no pressue at all, and theres permenant damage to the screen due to the stylus. It's almost like the top layer is being ripped as my stylus is dragging across it.
Just thought i'd try to save ya'all some money
thanks for the warning
thanks for the warning. If somebady news, which one is the best screen protector?
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http://www.screenpatronus.com
stay away.
They Are VERY easily damaged by a stylus. I'm talking barely no pressue at all, and theres permenant damage to the screen due to the stylus. It's almost like the top layer is being ripped as my stylus is dragging across it.
Just thought i'd try to save ya'all some money
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Maybe you got a bad batch? I have used this brand for many phones, cameras, and mp3 players, and have had no problems.
Thanks for the advice
I bought in the past in proporta.com and they are good
Thank you for the warning, I am looking to get a good screen protetor so now I know to take this off the list
The BEST screen protectors are Expert Shield. You should be able to get one for around $7 with shipping on ebay.
I have one on all of my electronics.
What is wrong with Screen Patronus!?!
I would say the complete opposite. They make the best screen protectors, as they are easy to apply and have minimal impact on touch screen performance.
As a matter of fact, I think my Touch Pro's touch screen actually works better with the Screen Patronus protector on it, than it did before.
Would recommend highly.
I second that, I''ve used many different brands for the past 5 years. I found screenpatronus works best. it's super clear, it's hardly can tell it's even there once it's on..
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What is wrong with Screen Patronus!?!
I would say the complete opposite. They make the best screen protectors, as they are easy to apply and have minimal impact on touch screen performance.
As a matter of fact, I think my Touch Pro's touch screen actually works better with the Screen Patronus protector on it, than it did before.
Would recommend highly.
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I'm a fan of the Invisible Shield from ZAGG. Easy to apply and once it's there, after a few says it just disappears. Resists fingerprints, too.
Screen Patronus looks great when new, goes on perfectly, but it scratches very easily. I would need to replace it monthly to be happy with how it looks, which would amount to about $72 per year!
Well ladies and gents, just got my Amzer Shatterproof screen protector today, here are my initial thoughts: (refer to update for final thoughts)
40 dollars shipping is ridiculous (to Australia). It arrived in a large padded envelope which I think is rather poor for that price. I made some noise and had it discounted to 20 dollars but even that seems to dear for a padded envelope.
Not quite sure what to make out of packaging, photo's for you to judge to yourself...
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32846000/1.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32846000/2.jpg
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Now for installation, followed instructions perfectly (supplied on packet) it was a dry install so I did it next to a running hot water tap. It all went smoothly until I tried pushing air bubbles out with their supplied card. For some reason there are hideous marks left by air bubbles as they travel towards the edge. It looks bloody terrible and I don't know whether or not to take it off, planning on leaving it on overnight and hope its a bit like zagg, disappearing as time goes on.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32846000/5.jpg
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Excuse the quality of the last 4 photos, taken from a very old camera.
There is also a noticeable scratch on the underside of the screen protector or something that's caused a line of discoloured pixels in the last picture.
Also, in my attempt of trying to push residual air out of these blemishes, I used my fingernail to apply pressure in hope that the blemishes would go away with proper contact to the screen (the card they provided wasn't doing anything at all). Turns out that fingernails scratch this screen protector, would have thought it was a little more resistant than that since my cheapo ones don't scratch from my fingernail... So blemishes didn't go away and the protector is scratched too...
Pros:
-Full screen coverage, no gaps on the side.
-No orange peel effect and while it isn't like my naked phone, its rather smooth.
Cons:
-Shipping was ridiculous to Australia, might be better to other places
-Getting rid of air bubbles seems to leave residual marks. Seems like you have to be a master and apply with no air bubbles for it to look good.
-Scratches rather easily and noticeably
-Not "self-healing"
Overall Verdict
Given that I had paid 50 dollars for this, (would have been 70 if I didn't complain), very dis-satisfied with this screen protector. A premium priced product shouldn't have these issues, my 1 dollar screen protectors didn't look like crap when I pushed air bubbles out, and its unacceptable that these have this problem. This is my first and probably will be my last purchase from Amzer.
Would love to hear if anyone else has had the same issues and me.
and...
Feel free to ask questions! if it doesn't clear up in the next few days I'll take it off, try find something else to put it on and do a drop test or scratch test to see if its really "shatterproof"
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Just to clarify: Protector itself cost 30 dollars, shipping was what sent it to the exuberant prices listed in my post.
Update: Also, there seems to be 0 improvement after: waiting/playing with phone/some more hopefully pressing. This thing looks so ugly I might have to take it off tomorrow to avoid showing it in public
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Update : 24/10/12 (the day after)
Ok so I woke up this morning and the marks from last night were still there. Hating the idea of wasting my money spent on this I decided to run an experiment: Turn something that was meant to be a dry install and make it a wet install.
The packaging describes a dry install, and I wasn't given any solution for a wet one... so I found some left over stuff from my Zagg Invisibleshield and went to work. After a bit of fiddling around and lots of spray (make sure phone is off when you're trying this), here are the results
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32846000/9.jpg
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https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32846000/12.jpg
Sorry I didn't think of taking a photo this morning when it was looking crappy, you guys will have to trust me that it was terrible still... but the improvement after my experiment is remarkable. It isn't perfect, my camera can't capture some of the small blemishes under the protector but they are pretty much small enough to ignore, as is the dust that I can't quite get off the edge. Also you guys can see from picture 11 the scratches from my nail I was talking about. The screen protector also doesn't seem to be self healing,a few of the points where I had to force air bubbles out with my dry install still have "dents" so that could annoy some of you here.
Final thoughts? Given my crappy experience yesterday I would still probably not recommend this, especially if it stays a dry install. However in future if they change it to a wet install, that or you have a bottle of Zagg solution lying around and have already ordered this, it could be a good thing. I'm kind of happy with it now, I've now got a full screen coverage that I could use for a few weeks unless it gets terribly scratched and it is quite smooth to touch. Amzer need to work on their product pricing to make it much more reasonable... that and to increase scratch resistance of a product that is supposed to withstand bricks, hammers and the like.
Disclaimer: If you already have this and are trying a wet install, I by no means will take responsibility if you damage your device or if it doesn't work for you. This was my last hope and it managed to work (maybe by luck). If you do perform a wet install, do so at your own risk.
Update 27/10/12
Amzer have finally responded to my emails and after checking that I did follow all their installation instructions, have kindly offered to issue a replacement since they assure me it should not have this issue. Will let you know how my replacement goes
Good review!
Thanks for the input.
Thank you for this review, i was actually considering this since i've seen those crash videos (hammer, brick, etc). Not that i'm putting much faith in those but i figured this would always be better than having nothing or at least better than el cheapo $1 stuff from ebay.
I'm now very against buying this. No point in having a screen protector if the end result is that awfull (since it's application is such an hassle), i know i'd never be over that look and it would annoy me everytime i'd look at the screen. I'm actually thinking it may even affect the anti-shatter effect if it's not well applied (if such effect actually exists as they claim).
And that price range is far beyond ridiculous, a total deal breaker. I'd never buy a screen protector that would cost me about 1/4 of what i paid for my phone.
Again thank you for this review and putting up with all the hassle.
kaynpayn said:
Thank you for this review, i was actually considering this since i've seen those crash videos (hammer, brick, etc). Not that i'm putting much faith in those but i figured this would always be better than having nothing or at least better than el cheapo $1 stuff from ebay.
I'm now very against buying this. No point in having a screen protector if the end result is that awfull (since it's application is such an hassle), i know i'd never be over that look and it would annoy me everytime i'd look at the screen. I'm actually thinking it may even affect the anti-shatter effect if it's not well applied (if such effect actually exists as they claim).
And that price range is far beyond ridiculous, a total deal breaker. I'd never buy a screen protector that would cost me about 1/4 of what i paid for my phone.
Again thank you for this review and putting up with all the hassle.
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I was very much like that too, didn't think that it would stop a brick or hammer but on the off chance that anything did hit it, it might save my phone a lot of damage.
I pride myself in applying screen protectors well, nearly every single one I've done is bubble and blemish free but this was just beyond me, even a few hours after installation I don't think it's going to go away like the Zagg one.
To clarify, it's priced at 30 dollars which, while expensive, isn't too bad if it does protect the phone the way it is advertised. Just the shipping really blew it out of the water but I thought I'd take a gamble anyway
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I was very much like that too, didn't think that it would stop a brick or hammer but on the off chance that anything did hit it, it might save my phone a lot of damage.
I pride myself in applying screen protectors well, nearly every single one I've done is bubble and blemish free but this was just beyond me, even a few hours after installation I don't think it's going to go away like the Zagg one.
To clarify, it's priced at 30 dollars which, while expensive, isn't too bad if it does protect the phone the way it is advertised. Just the shipping really blew it out of the water but I thought I'd take a gamble anyway
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I am guilty of thinking that the most expensive product must be the best product. Great review.
Thanks for the review..was considering going with this but because of the price and your review I'll consider something else. Tried the DBA just like glass one too, didn't like that one either, only cover the actual screen display and have rainbow streaks..
A finger nail scratched it? Wow seems like you found its weakness.
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nice review, thanks!
Helpful review... But what the hell were you thinking paying over 30$ for a screen protector?
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Helpful review... But what the hell were you thinking paying over 30$ for a screen protector?
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app
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I'm not quite sure what came across me at the time... was hoping it would live up to expectations and never have to buy a screen protector again. At any rate the protector was 30, but it was just shipping that was stupid...
I'm well aware of my idiocy lol but oh well, live and learn
I'd like to warn some about damage done to my phone during the installation of the SGFresh InvisShield. My phone was permanently damaged during installation. LOCA leaked into the speaker grills and damaged the microphone. It works but is a noticeably muffled. Also, either alcohol used for clean up or the LOCA messed up the finish on the back of the phone. It's kind of matte and lost some luster.
Here's what happened:
I followed the installation instructions perfectly, but LOCA leaked out all over the phone and I ended up with several bubbles. So I followed troubleshooting steps to remove bubbles (wrap one end and pry up the protector on the other). This just resulted in the bubbles moving to the middle of the screen and staying intact. Worse when I unwrapped the end, the LOCA had leaking into the speaker grill. Since, I refused to cure the LOCA inside the speaker grill, I had no choice but to remove the protector the clean out the grill. Removing the protector with wet LOCA, means the LOCA is free to leak all over the device. I had to thoroughly clean my phone with with rubbing alcohol. The back plastic looks pretty bad now. I think the solvent in the LOCA jacked it up.
In spite of that, I tried again with the second LOCA application (they include two) and had the same experience. I think the amount of LOCA they sent me was simply too much. On top of that the LOCA burns your skin. The LOCA containers have a little stopper in them that has to be removed with your fingernail. I have red burns on the tips of my fingers and I threw away $52 (including shipping).
Edit: If you decide to purchase this screen protector, wpy's suggestion to cover the speakers with tape is a very good idea.
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I highly recommend that people avoid this product. I followed the instructions perfectly, but LOCA leaked out all over the place and I ended up with several bubbles.
So I followed troubleshooting steps to remove bubbles (wrap one end and pry up the protector on the other). This just resulted in the bubbles moving to the middle of the screen and staying intact. Worse when I unwrapped the end, the LOCA had leaking into the speaker grill. Since, I refused to cure the LOCA inside the speaker grill, I had no choice but to remove the protector the clean out the grill. Removing the protector with wet LOCA, means the LOCA is free to leak all over the device. I had to thoroughly clean my phone with with rubbing alcohol. The back plastic looks pretty bad now. I think the solvent in the LOCA jacked it up.
In spite of that, I tried again with the second LOCA application (they include two) and had the same experience. I think the amount of LOCA they sent me was simply too much. On top of that the LOCA burns your skin. The LOCA containers have a little stopper in them that has to be removed with your fingernail. I have red burns on the tips of my fingers and I threw away $52 (including shipping).
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When the installation works, it really is nice. I've seen some finished installs that look great, so it does seem possible. But I'm beginning to think that it may be a combination of skill and luck to wind up with a "perfect" installation. I've found the company, as represented here by whiteangelcl, seems to make every effort to be supportive and responsive to any issues that are reported. Whiteangelcl has gone out of the way to provide free replacements when people have reported problems, and has been quick to respond to questions and comments. It's really rare to experience this level of customer support, and I for one really appreciate it.
Getting a tempered glass screen protector on the P2XL has certainly proven to be a challenge. This seems to be due to the phone's screen design, curved at the top and bottom as well as both sides -- as a result, TGSP's that attempt to span all four curved edges run into issues, with lifting, bubbles, etc, unless the placement is exactly right during installation. It seems that 99+ % of the protectors sold for this phone are garbage, with only the two available LOCA installed protectors being realistic tempered glass options: the InvisShield, and the Whitestone Dome Glass. The first provides greater coverage that conforms to overall screen design, and comes with much better customer support -- but it's typically difficult to install; the second is smaller with less screen coverage, installs more easily, but is more expensive, and customer support is not reputed to be anywhere near what you get with InvisShield.
I like the idea of the InvisShield, but I'm not having good luck installing it. I've tried a couple of times, and will make one more attempt, after which I may just give up and either go with the Whitestone Dome product, or skip using a screen protector altogether.
If you have the patience, I would reach out to whiteangelcl and ask for help: truly responsive, with an honest and earnest attempt to provide excellent customer service. I believe you'll be pleasantly surprised. I suggest this could be a better approach than simply bashing the product: the concept is excellent, the product is being improved in real time, and you'll get good support. I agree that prospective customers go into this with eyes open as it could be a challenge. But I wouldn't necessarily assume that a single bad experience with an install is the end of the road for this.
Jon
EDIT: BTW - you can clean the LOCA out of the speaker grill(s). Moisten a q-tip with some rubbing alcohol (I use 91%), and carefully swab it back and forth over the clogged speaker grill. You can use a wooden toothpick to drag across that LOCA after doing that -- but be VERY gentle and do NOT press inward, or you'll damage the speaker grill. But a gentle swiping / very light scraping will eventually remove the LOCA if you pre-soften it with the alcohol. Be sure to blot off any excess alcohol pretty quickly so it doesn't attack the rest of the LOCA under the edge of the screen protector. It takes a bit of patience, but you can clean out the speaker grill so they're pretty much like new with alcohol, q-tip and wooden toothpick (and remember to be gentle!!!).
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When the installation works, it really is nice. I've seen some finished installs that look great, so it does seem possible. But I'm beginning to think that it may be a combination of skill and luck to wind up with a "perfect" installation. I've found the company, as represented here by whiteangelcl, seems to make every effort to be supportive and responsive to any issues that are reported. Whiteangelcl has gone out of the way to provide free replacements when people have reported problems, and has been quick to respond to questions and comments. It's really rare to experience this level of customer support, and I for one really appreciate it.
Getting a tempered glass screen protector on the P2XL has certainly proven to be a challenge. This seems to be due to the phone's screen design, curved at the top and bottom as well as both sides -- as a result, TGSP's that attempt to span all four curved edges run into issues, with lifting, bubbles, etc, unless the placement is exactly right during installation. It seems that 99+ % of the protectors sold for this phone are garbage, with only the two available LOCA installed protectors being realistic tempered glass options: the InvisShield, and the Whitestone Dome Glass. The first provides greater coverage that conforms to overall screen design, and comes with much better customer support -- but it's typically difficult to install; the second is smaller with less screen coverage, installs more easily, but is more expensive, and customer support is not reputed to be anywhere near what you get with InvisShield.
I like the idea of the InvisShield, but I'm not having good luck installing it. I've tried a couple of times, and will make one more attempt, after which I may just give up and either go with the Whitestone Dome product, or skip using a screen protector altogether.
If you have the patience, I would reach out to whiteangelcl and ask for help: truly responsive, with an honest and earnest attempt to provide excellent customer service. I believe you'll be pleasantly surprised. I suggest this could be a better approach than simply bashing the product: the concept is excellent, the product is being improved in real time, and you'll get good support. I agree that prospective customers go into this with eyes open as it could be a challenge. But I wouldn't necessarily assume that a single bad experience with an install is the end of the road for this.
Jon
EDIT: BTW - you can clean the LOCA out of the speaker grill(s). Moisten a q-tip with some rubbing alcohol (I use 91%), and carefully swab it back and forth over the clogged speaker grill. You can use a wooden toothpick to drag across that LOCA after doing that -- but be VERY gentle and do NOT press inward, or you'll damage the speaker grill. But a gentle swiping / very light scraping will eventually remove the LOCA if you pre-soften it with the alcohol. Be sure to blot off any excess alcohol pretty quickly so it doesn't attack the rest of the LOCA under the edge of the screen protector. It takes a bit of patience, but you can clean out the speaker grill so they're pretty much like new with alcohol, q-tip and wooden toothpick (and remember to be gentle!!!).
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I really appreciate the thoughtful response, but I won't be giving this product a second chance. It nearly ruined my microphone. I spent the last hour letting rubbing alcohol soak in the bottom speaker and then blowing it out with canned air. People can sort of hear me now. I'm going to clean it a few more times and hope for the best.
I did 2 installs of the sgfresh invisShield. First one i installed it misaligned with the front facing camera and had a glare when using the front facing camera so i did a fresh install with a 2nd glass panelA. Second install went well and i am satisfied with their product, I too was very concerned with the loca flowing inside the front speakers so before both install i taped the front speaker with clear 3m tape. taped just to the very edge of the speaker and it prevented the loca to flow inside the speakers. The loca does stings when in contact with skin and face so be carefull. Excess loca will leak on the sides so i place the phone on a few sheets of paper table napkins to collect the excess loca as it flows out of the sides then I cured each end for 20 seconeds then cleaned the phone sides with wipes and alcohol. after cleaning i cure again for a couple of minutes. Also i used maybe 1 + 1/4 of the provided loca my reasoning was a bit more is better than it not reaching the edges of the glass. Also as a tip to removed the air bubbles on the edges lift gently pass the bubble then apply a bit of pressure when pressing down so that the bubble will be pushed out. it seem if you do it too gently the bubble just stays in place. Hope this help. i am satisfied with the product.
I love my invisishield. Just followed the video instructions.
No loca in speakers.
Bubbles were removed easily during installation by using the method described.
Sorry to hear you had so many challenges
No problem here, installation went fine on the first try.
Maybe such a deflamatory post should be moderated and removed.
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Maybe such a deflamatory post should be moderated and removed.
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Personally I don't think it's rude or inaccurate - the post just reflects one person's experience and opinion. Others here may have similar experience, or different / better experience - and are free to share their opinions as well. I think a site like this would lose credibility if it were to filter out anyone's negative experiences, even if other folks have positive experiences with the same products or services. If somebody is rude, lies, or is disrespectful that's a problem (IMHO), but this is simply a matter of people sharing their own experiences.
That sucks that the LOCA leaked all over the speakers. Mine did not go into the speakers until I tried fixing a bubble. Even then I covered it up with a dust removal sticker and cured it and then cleaned it with some alcohol and a toothbrush (did not pour alcohol on to the speaker. Just on the toothbrush and then lightly brushed). Product is great though!
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Personally I don't think it's rude or inaccurate - the post just reflects one person's experience and opinion. Others here may have similar experience, or different / better experience - and are free to share their opinions as well. I think a site like this would lose credibility if it were to filter out anyone's negative experiences, even if other folks have positive experiences with the same products or services. If somebody is rude, lies, or is disrespectful that's a problem (IMHO), but this is simply a matter of people sharing their own experiences.
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On the other hand, there is already a thread about this screen protector. Why not to post it there? Why the need to make it so much more visible by screating new thread?
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Maybe such a deflamatory post should be moderated and removed.
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I'm not sure if you meant defamatory or inflammatory. My post isn't defamatory. I only described my experiences.
I can sort of see how the title could be taken as inflammatory. I changed the title and tweaked the first paragraph based on your feedback.
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On the other hand, there is already a thread about this screen protector. Why not to post it there? Why the need to make it so much more visible by screating new thread?
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My phone was permanently damaged during installation. My microphone works but is a noticeably muffled. My intention was to make sure people know this is a real risk. I didn't want the warning lost in a thread with 600 messages. There have been some very good replies to this thread. It now has good information on how to avoid this problem and how to recover from it. I think this thread could end up being very helpful to some people.
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I'm not sure if you meant defamatory or inflammatory. My post isn't defamatory. I only described my experiences.
I can sort of see how the title could be taken as inflammatory. I changed the title and tweaked the first paragraph based on your feedback.
My phone was permanently damaged during installation. My microphone works but is a noticeably muffled. My intention was to make sure people know this is a real risk. I didn't want the warning lost in a thread with 600 messages. There have been some very good replies to this thread. It now has good information on how to avoid this problem and how to recover from it. I think this thread could end up being very helpful to some people.
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All the info here is already in the original thread and also in the installation manual videos on youtube.
EDIT: looks like your thread was moved to the original thread.
I've done Whitestone loca and just ordered the sgfreshidea as Whitestones warranty is a joke. The kit I got from white stone had stickers to cover speaker grills and sponges to absorb any run off on the edges.. I'm not sure what sgfreshidea kit comes with as I have not received it yet. But to anyone else. Cover anywhere the the screen protector will not be. Clear tape should work. even with the Whitestone I had some run off but no issues getting into anything it shouldn't.
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Cover anywhere the the screen protector will not be. Clear tape should work. even with the Whitestone I had some run off but no issues getting into anything it shouldn't.
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Easier said than done - the InvisShield sits absolutely flush with the edge of the speaker grills.
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Easier said than done - the InvisShield sits absolutely flush with the edge of the speaker grills.
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The white stone is pretty close. I only did one application with my Whitestone kit (Which they wanted me to ship everything back at my expense, and charge $15 handling fee to send me my "warranty replacement", i can get 2 protectors from sgfreshidea for that price). The tabs they send actually lock into the frame they send that you set the phone in. And the tab-tape they send with white stone just barely cover the to the edge of speaker. So with the whitestone kit it's easier to get it right at the edge. I'll see how they work with the sgfreshidea when they they get here and report back. Maybe these tabs can be found elsewhere? As I found with the whitestone having a little missing local on the edge was not s killer... It takes a lot to life the screen off. But dust did kind of collect on one of the edges. Maybe I'll take the risk and use clear packing tape and no special frame kit and see if I can get it done with regular household items. If I screw up I have extra loca and it only hardens when it's hit with uv.
How i fixed my phone from the same problem.
So I had the same exact problem as you. So this is what i did. I took a toothbrush poured some rubbing alcohol on the speakers. and stared gently brushing it. Then after that go to you tube and play a very high bass song. the pour more alcohol on the speakers and let it sit you'll see the liquid vibrating. then flip it and beat it into a towel really hard. keep poring and flipping it and beating it onto a towel until the speakers sound better. And something for the mic take an ear swab and dip it i the alcohol and tap it into the mic and let it sit then flip it and beat it into a towel. Trust me it works. I just fixed mine I'm so happy. !!!!
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So I had the same exact problem as you. So this is what i did. I took a toothbrush poured some rubbing alcohol on the speakers. and stared gently brushing it. Then after that go to you tube and play a very high bass song. the pour more alcohol on the speakers and let it sit you'll see the liquid vibrating. then flip it and beat it into a towel really hard. keep poring and flipping it and beating it onto a towel until the speakers sound better. And something for the mic take an ear swab and dip it i the alcohol and tap it into the mic and let it sit then flip it and beat it into a towel. Trust me it works. I just fixed mine I'm so happy. !!!!
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For $50 this is NUTS!!! I switched to Whitestone cause SG was too difficult and messy. Whitestone glass is also way better. SG gets hazy if u gotta clean LOCA off. But there customer service is TOP NOTCH. Unfortunately if you're in Canada or the US. Delivery is like a month. Which again is NUTS!!!
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letrain02 said:
The white stone is pretty close. I only did one application with my Whitestone kit (Which they wanted me to ship everything back at my expense, and charge $15 handling fee to send me my "warranty replacement", i can get 2 protectors from sgfreshidea for that price). The tabs they send actually lock into the frame they send that you set the phone in. And the tab-tape they send with white stone just barely cover the to the edge of speaker. So with the whitestone kit it's easier to get it right at the edge. I'll see how they work with the sgfreshidea when they they get here and report back. Maybe these tabs can be found elsewhere? As I found with the whitestone having a little missing local on the edge was not s killer... It takes a lot to life the screen off. But dust did kind of collect on one of the edges. Maybe I'll take the risk and use clear packing tape and no special frame kit and see if I can get it done with regular household items. If I screw up I have extra loca and it only hardens when it's hit with uv.
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You use masking tape or the usual Scotch tape (probably any normal consumer level tape would work). I'm surprised no one thought of covering up the speakers for the install.
$45 on Amazon
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For $50 this is NUTS!!! I switched to Whitestone cause SG was too difficult and messy. Whitestone glass is also way better. SG gets hazy if u gotta clean LOCA off. But there customer service is TOP NOTCH. Unfortunately if you're in Canada or the US. Delivery is like a month. Which again is NUTS!!!
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Wow its $45 on amazon and primed shipping. So have you tried it? Does it come with the kit that helps with installation. Did any of the glue leak on the speakers?
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Wow its $45 on amazon and primed shipping. So have you tried it? Does it come with the kit that helps with installation. Did any of the glue leak on the speakers?
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Tried em both. No LOCA leakage whatsoever. Plus u get tabs to cover the grills as a precaution. The kit makes installation a breeze. The only thing u need to do is properly clean the screen. With SG the protector doesn't come with protective film. So u have to clean that also. Making the chance of getting particles on the screen and thus wrecking the install way higher and alot more stressful. With the WStone Once put on. U don't even know it's there. Clear and fingerprint resistant like the phone screen. Whitestone is the one to get.
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Hello all!
First time posting in a while, so forgive me if I'm a bit rusty. I just got my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ yesterday, and my amFilm Ultra Glass Screen Protector today, so I thought I'd write up a little review. Sorry for no pics, but I was busy installing and trying to keep things dust-free
I've used Whitestone in the past but was disappointed with both my Note 8 and 9 installs, primarily because of the LOCA spiderwebbing on the edges. I figured I'd give another brand a shot, so I went searching here and found the amFilm Ultra Glass Screen Protector. A quick trip over to Amazon, and $40 later (for a full kit including *2* protectors) and here we are!
PACKAGING: The box is nice - wider and flatter than the WS product. It's clean and simple, but professional looking. Plus their website and install video are well done also. Inside the outer box are three smaller boxes. The largest contains the plastic frame, screen protectors, and wipes (I think). The medium size box contains the UV light and the MicroUSB cable. It appears to be identical to the WS product, but I don't know this for a fact, so take that for what it's worth. The smallest box contains the LOCA (2 tubes), extra absorption pads, plastic pin, tabs to place over the speaker, a bubble level, and a weight. Everything you need comes in this kit, including plenty of wet and dry wipes, microfiber cloths, and dust removal stickers. On the packaging is a QR code to go to the install video.
PRODUCT: Everything seems to be on the same quality scale as the WS product, with a few minor changes - 1) there is no LOCA applicator "bridge", you have to aim and dribble the solution by hand, 2) the pin is different - there's no more tilting the entire phone to move the liquid into position - the pin is angled and sets the glass down at an angle, and 3) the "fingerprint" weight (more on this later). Otherwise, if you've done the WS before, this isn't significantly different.
INSTALLATION: **REMINDER** REMOVE the factory plastic screen protector and clean your screen THOROUGHLY before proceeding! I ALMOST forgot, which would have been a disaster! I watched the video twice and didn't see any mention of this, so amFilm, here's a tip for you Anyway, installation is straightforward -put the little feet on the bottom of the phone to bring it flush with the pins inside, make sure the screen is 100% clean, install the sticker over the speaker, apply the liquid (making sure to absorb any "splatter" before proceeding!), peel the protective film off the glass, place it, and pull the pin. Once the liquid starts to spread, put the weight where the fingerprint sensor is and let it settle and "ooze" for 3-ish minutes. (NOTE - it's hard to locate the fingerprint scanner, so you might want to mark the frame in advance with a Sharpie (another tip for amFilm - marking that plastic with some kind of raised bumps or hash marks might be a good idea, or maybe a film for on top of the glass that marks where to place it - just a thought). After that, it's bake-time under the UV light, then you're done.
RESULTS: I'm very impressed so far. The glass appears to be nice and clear, and I can't even see the little "spots" in the corners others mentioned. I lucked out this time and no dust specs at all. No bubbles, etc. the fingerprint scanner appears to be working fine, although I haven't re-registered anything. It DOES require a little extra "umph" to scan, but that's not a big deal. Part of that could be me getting used to an in-screen scanner. There was minimal over-oozing, and the pre-installed pads absorbed everything fine. Barely needed a wipedown afterward.
FITMENT: There appears to be no flaws in placement using the guide, or in the fitment of the glass. It sits flat, and lines up exactly where it should. The cutout for the front-facing camera is exactly where it should be, and it's not overly-exaggerated in size. The edges leave plenty of room for putting the phone in a case (I've tried 4 so far, all fit without touching the glass edge, so there's no worry about case push on the glue). The bottom edge is just a tad bit short, maybe a 1/16", but that could be allowing for larger cases (I don't use the big bulky ones, so IDK).
OVERALL ASSESSMENT: 4.5/5 Stars - Great product, especially for the price. I'll keep you posted on long-term wear & quality, but for now, I'd say it's a great deal versus the competition.
Thanks for the feedback, just got my note 10 plus and am trying to filter out the paid/promo reviews vs legit ones.
I may go this route with amfilm as well. i bought the tech matte clear case, so i hope it fits well within it without popping off.
hows your experience after putting it in a case?
I applied mine the other day, and while I'm happy with the fit & finish, my fingerprint reader is spotty at best. In addition, my frame snapped, so I need to contact customer support to send me another one. because it snapped it ended up leaking LOCA all over the place, too.
entropism said:
I applied mine the other day, and while I'm happy with the fit & finish, my fingerprint reader is spotty at best. In addition, my frame snapped, so I need to contact customer support to send me another one. because it snapped it ended up leaking LOCA all over the place, too.
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Isn't that glue suppose to cure? When you say it snapped did it spill liquid after the snap?
joogle said:
Isn't that glue suppose to cure? When you say it snapped did it spill liquid after the snap?
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The frame snapped during install, without me noticing. Because it wasn't holding everything in place very well, the glue ran EVERYWHERE. Under the phone, over the sides, etc.
So yes, once I got everything fixed as well as I could, the glue cured fine. But you don't cure it until you're basically done and ready to go.
entropism said:
The frame snapped during install, without me noticing. Because it wasn't holding everything in place very well, the glue ran EVERYWHERE. Under the phone, over the sides, etc.
So yes, once I got everything fixed as well as I could, the glue cured fine. But you don't cure it until you're basically done and ready to go.
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If you turn sensitivity on, does that resolve the fingerprint issue?
No, sensitivity is already up. I’ll have to replace the protector soon anyways, we’ll see if another install will make things better.
entropism said:
No, sensitivity is already up. I’ll have to replace the protector soon anyways, we’ll see if another install will make things better.
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The September update includes improved finger printer recognition.
Ok I decided to go ahead and buy the amfilm note 10 plus screen protector from Amazon. Watched their video and then another on Youtube like twice. I think I got the install right, the whole weight placing situation is a guesstimate, if they are reading this thread - put something on the tray to take the guessing out of the process, like a stick with a weight so it stays in one spot.
Also, the glue stick - be careful when lifting it to make sure no drop falls out - i didnt put the black cap back on - saw an extra few big drops fall on my desk - no biggie - but if it was on the screen would have been a hassle.
then the UV light shuts off at 45 seconds - their last instruction is to keep it lit for 60 seconds - they should probably adjust it - again not a big issue.
in terms of quality of the screen protector - looks good - its a thin piece of glass - hopefully it protects the screen. the fingerprint sensor - its been a hit/miss kind of. i added my same thumb print twice, sometimes it has to read directly in the middle of the thumb, othertimes i feel like i have to press harder. I didn't try the fingerprint sensor before the screen protector so don't know if its just the way it is.
I would rate this like 3.5 / 5 -- i think tempered glass is solid, the fingerprint sensor can be annoying, its not really that smooth like if you slightly put your finger/thumb on it that it will open. like literally it won't take it on first try, on second or third try it will take - that is the most annoying part about it.
the install process was decent, as long as you watch the videos first - its straight forward.
price wise its sucky - i wish they would sell this for $20 - even with just one screen protector. $40 is steep, replacement protectors they can probably price between $7 to $10 i feel.
By the way this is the same UV type device used to cure fingernail paint - lol - your household may already have one.
I don't have the Whitestone to compare to. But I can say man the Samsung film screen protector is solid, used it for few days, even when taking it off it was on perfectly. I kind of miss it but i think tempered glass will offer more protection on a fall.
Pictures, please.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VKHMK9J/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_apa_i_2oX0DbYMHRS0A
I've installed two of these protectors on a note 10 + and a note 10. I did have the issue with the frame cracking with the note 10+ but the company has since fixed that issue.
I've used WDG for a few years now and this one has exceeded my expectations and is better than Whitestone.
The installation is simple and comes with a weighted cylinder that's used when you're curing the glass with the UV light. I've had zero issues with the finger scanner as well as my daughter on her note 10. I actually put the cylinder on while the glue was spreading. I can actually see a circle where the finger print scanner is at and I think this is a recipe for success. I've installed these just after release and they still look brand new. Scanner works great! I can provide forage if anyone is interested. The price is great for getting two in the box. I highly recommend!
I ost my Note 10+ a few days ago, a first for me. I immediately considered it found and stolen as I could see the person who found it via GPS, driving about the area where it fell off of my truck. So after two unanswered calls to said phone? I immediately wiped it and so at least my very minor personal data is secured. Whomever it as, *did* happen to get a very extensive, 40,000+ file .flac/.mp3 library on my spare SD Card but that's quite redundantly maintained/backed up so no real loss.
I immediately bought an exact replica of the lost Note 10+ from the same great seller as before, an ebay "excellent" condition refurb. The phone was here in 2 days then a quick visit to the local ATT store and I'm now back in business as usual, taking literally about 20 minutes to have the exact same phone/usage apps/settings and basically a Note 10+ set up precisely as my former phone had been. This is a relative topic with most users, myself included, as each of us may more or less appeciate any given app or feature ... but for me? Google sync and restore is a metaphorical Golden Unicorn(tm) lol.
But to my main question...
How can I determine if the Samsung default screen protector/film is installed on this new "refurb."
The screen on this unit is flawless, having no discernable marks or scratches, not even of the micro variety. But I have noticed that the thumbprint sensor is quite more responsive than my previous Note 10+ which definitely had the stock screen protector as, over the years, it had began to bubble ever so slightly and in certain places.
I've examined the edges of the new screen at great length under more than ample lighting and with very good magnification equipment and can find no visible "seam" or otherwise around the edges and where one would expect to find such a seam for any phone panel that had one of those super thin, super transparent protectors installed.
I will say that I found the stock Samsung protector on my first Note 10+ to be quite good, as good as any of the "tempered glass" varieties I'd used with previous phones though after two years of fairly rough use, there were small areas appearing where the Samsung factory screen film was beginning to show it's natural limitations.
So any ideas short of close examination with a good light source and high quality magnifying glasses would be welcome. If I do determine it is completely lacking in the inclusion of the factory installed panel film/protector (only reason I can imagine is if the previous user had removed it) then I will of course want to begin researching an appropriate 3rd party option that works well while maintaining solid use of the fingerprint sensor...
So any tips would be welcome...
Thanks in advance,
Joel Harris
The front cam hole will likely have a cut out in the screen protector if present. Slight seams are visible on one or more of the edges. Also the glass feels different than any plastic protector. Gorilla IQ Sheild is a good wet apply protector.
s1rrah said:
I ost my Note 10+ a few days ago, a first for me. I immediately considered it found and stolen as I could see the person who found it via GPS, driving about the area where it fell off of my truck. So after two unanswered calls to said phone? I immediately wiped it and so at least my very minor personal data is secured. Whomever it as, *did* happen to get a very extensive, 40,000+ file .flac/.mp3 library on my spare SD Card but that's quite redundantly maintained/backed up so no real loss.
I immediately bought an exact replica of the lost Note 10+ from the same great seller as before, an ebay "excellent" condition refurb. The phone was here in 2 days then a quick visit to the local ATT store and I'm now back in business as usual, taking literally about 20 minutes to have the exact same phone/usage apps/settings and basically a Note 10+ set up precisely as my former phone had been. This is a relative topic with most users, myself included, as each of us may more or less appeciate any given app or feature ... but for me? Google sync and restore is a metaphorical Golden Unicorn(tm) lol.
But to my main question...
How can I determine if the Samsung default screen protector/film is installed on this new "refurb."
The screen on this unit is flawless, having no discernable marks or scratches, not even of the micro variety. But I have noticed that the thumbprint sensor is quite more responsive than my previous Note 10+ which definitely had the stock screen protector as, over the years, it had began to bubble ever so slightly and in certain places.
I've examined the edges of the new screen at great length under more than ample lighting and with very good magnification equipment and can find no visible "seam" or otherwise around the edges and where one would expect to find such a seam for any phone panel that had one of those super thin, super transparent protectors installed.
I will say that I found the stock Samsung protector on my first Note 10+ to be quite good, as good as any of the "tempered glass" varieties I'd used with previous phones though after two years of fairly rough use, there were small areas appearing where the Samsung factory screen film was beginning to show it's natural limitations.
So any ideas short of close examination with a good light source and high quality magnifying glasses would be welcome. If I do determine it is completely lacking in the inclusion of the factory installed panel film/protector (only reason I can imagine is if the previous user had removed it) then I will of course want to begin researching an appropriate 3rd party option that works well while maintaining solid use of the fingerprint sensor...
So any tips would be welcome...
Thanks in advance,
Joel Harris
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Most likely, Being a refurb with flawless screen, it probably had it's screen replaced and replacement screens don't ship with that Samsung factory screen protector on them. Most likely no screen protector in place
blackhawk said:
The front cam hole will likely have a cut out in the screen protector if present. Slight seams are visible on one or more of the edges. Also the glass feels different than any plastic protector. Gorilla IQ Sheild is a good wet apply protector.
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Thanks mate ...
Checked all the obvious variables and there's def no protector on the screen.
I found tons of "IQ Shield" variants on Amazon but none specifically made by Gorilla, which is a brand I tend to trust. Any further info?
In the interim, I bought this uber cheap but very well reviewed cheapo. If it works half as good as the reviews seem to indicate then it should be fine.
Thanks again ....
s1rrah said:
Thanks mate ...
Checked all the obvious variables and there's def no protector on the screen.
I found tons of "IQ Shield" variants on Amazon but none specifically made by Gorilla, which is a brand I tend to trust. Any further info?
In the interim, I bought this uber cheap but very well reviewed cheapo. If it works half as good as the reviews seem to indicate then it should be fine.
Thanks again ....
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Get a couple, just in case. Things must be as dust free as possible ie spotless on the glass and room where applied. Don't touch the glass or back surface of the protector. Use enough of the fluid to get it aligned spot then work the air bubbles out. Watch it to make sure it stays adhered to the curve portions of the screen.
Just press and briefly hold if it lifts up. Use a little of the fluid if needed. If it ever lifts up on the sides later as long as no dust or dirt get under it, it can be reattached with a little water and pressing it down.
Leave it set up for at least a couple hours before using if possible. Mind the edges don't lift, usually after 10 minutes that's no longer an issue. Any small micro bubbles will be absorb in a few days... not big air bubbles though.
The Zizo Bolt is an excellent case for it.
That's all I use, zero damage in almost 3 years.
Enjoy, the Beast is a great phone!
blackhawk said:
Get a couple, just in case. Things must be as dust free as possible ie spotless on the glass and room where applied. Don't touch the glass or back surface of the protector. Use enough of the fluid to get it aligned spot then work the air bubbles out. Watch it to make sure it stays adhered to the curve portions of the screen.
Just press and briefly hold if it lifts up. Use a little of the fluid if needed. If it ever lifts up on the sides later as long as no dust or dirt get under it, it can be reattached with a little water and pressing it down.
Leave it set up for at least a couple hours before using if possible. Mind the edges don't lift, usually after 10 minutes that's no longer an issue. Any small micro bubbles will be absorb in a few days... not big air bubbles though.
The Zizo Bolt is an excellent case for it.
That's all I use, zero damage in almost 3 years.
Enjoy, the Beast is a great phone!
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Thanks for the detailed tips, friend. Much appreciated. But exactly what screen protector are you referring to? The originally mentioned "Q Shield" variant? Or the one I mentioned already ordering, which is the Apiker random find off of Amazon.
If you're referring to a specific brand/model of protector, be it of the "Q Shield" sort or otherwise? Please send me a link if your able to do so.
As it turns out? The randomly ordered Apiker kit I bought from Amazon based solely on user reviews alone, has turned out to be pretty okay. As with many such products, especially those for phones with curved edges, there really is value in going over some install videos and what not but the first application turned out pretty damn good.
The kit came with 4 of everything so for the money and the fact that 2nd and further applications would of course be more intuitive, makes it a decent value.
Also, the Apiker screen kit I bought is not tempered glass but some other sort of material but still has a decent feel overall. The main thing I like is the thumb sensor is still every bit as sensitive/responsive as it was when using the naked, glass screen.
But send me some info on the kit you were referring to that uses what you called "fluid" ... I'll get one of those too lol!
And yeah, mang. Note10+ FTW! Mine was stolen about a week ago .. only time I've ever lost it ... but it wasn't 20 minutes before I'd ordered a new "refurb" off Ebay which I'm currently using now.
I tend to always buy whatever the flagship Sammy was 3 or so years ago and always end up saving tons of money and being very happy with whatever that ends up being. I bought a 1 day temp new Galaxy A12 at the local ATT shop to use till the Note10+ replacement came in and the Note10+ processing speed is WAY better than the A12, which frankly was just a sluggish dog in comparison.
Thanks again for the info..
"IQ Shield"