I'd like to warn some about damage done to my phone during the installation of the SGFresh InvisShield. My phone was permanently damaged during installation. LOCA leaked into the speaker grills and damaged the microphone. It works but is a noticeably muffled. Also, either alcohol used for clean up or the LOCA messed up the finish on the back of the phone. It's kind of matte and lost some luster.
Here's what happened:
I followed the installation instructions perfectly, but LOCA leaked out all over the phone and I ended up with several bubbles. So I followed troubleshooting steps to remove bubbles (wrap one end and pry up the protector on the other). This just resulted in the bubbles moving to the middle of the screen and staying intact. Worse when I unwrapped the end, the LOCA had leaking into the speaker grill. Since, I refused to cure the LOCA inside the speaker grill, I had no choice but to remove the protector the clean out the grill. Removing the protector with wet LOCA, means the LOCA is free to leak all over the device. I had to thoroughly clean my phone with with rubbing alcohol. The back plastic looks pretty bad now. I think the solvent in the LOCA jacked it up.
In spite of that, I tried again with the second LOCA application (they include two) and had the same experience. I think the amount of LOCA they sent me was simply too much. On top of that the LOCA burns your skin. The LOCA containers have a little stopper in them that has to be removed with your fingernail. I have red burns on the tips of my fingers and I threw away $52 (including shipping).
Edit: If you decide to purchase this screen protector, wpy's suggestion to cover the speakers with tape is a very good idea.
benpage said:
I highly recommend that people avoid this product. I followed the instructions perfectly, but LOCA leaked out all over the place and I ended up with several bubbles.
So I followed troubleshooting steps to remove bubbles (wrap one end and pry up the protector on the other). This just resulted in the bubbles moving to the middle of the screen and staying intact. Worse when I unwrapped the end, the LOCA had leaking into the speaker grill. Since, I refused to cure the LOCA inside the speaker grill, I had no choice but to remove the protector the clean out the grill. Removing the protector with wet LOCA, means the LOCA is free to leak all over the device. I had to thoroughly clean my phone with with rubbing alcohol. The back plastic looks pretty bad now. I think the solvent in the LOCA jacked it up.
In spite of that, I tried again with the second LOCA application (they include two) and had the same experience. I think the amount of LOCA they sent me was simply too much. On top of that the LOCA burns your skin. The LOCA containers have a little stopper in them that has to be removed with your fingernail. I have red burns on the tips of my fingers and I threw away $52 (including shipping).
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When the installation works, it really is nice. I've seen some finished installs that look great, so it does seem possible. But I'm beginning to think that it may be a combination of skill and luck to wind up with a "perfect" installation. I've found the company, as represented here by whiteangelcl, seems to make every effort to be supportive and responsive to any issues that are reported. Whiteangelcl has gone out of the way to provide free replacements when people have reported problems, and has been quick to respond to questions and comments. It's really rare to experience this level of customer support, and I for one really appreciate it.
Getting a tempered glass screen protector on the P2XL has certainly proven to be a challenge. This seems to be due to the phone's screen design, curved at the top and bottom as well as both sides -- as a result, TGSP's that attempt to span all four curved edges run into issues, with lifting, bubbles, etc, unless the placement is exactly right during installation. It seems that 99+ % of the protectors sold for this phone are garbage, with only the two available LOCA installed protectors being realistic tempered glass options: the InvisShield, and the Whitestone Dome Glass. The first provides greater coverage that conforms to overall screen design, and comes with much better customer support -- but it's typically difficult to install; the second is smaller with less screen coverage, installs more easily, but is more expensive, and customer support is not reputed to be anywhere near what you get with InvisShield.
I like the idea of the InvisShield, but I'm not having good luck installing it. I've tried a couple of times, and will make one more attempt, after which I may just give up and either go with the Whitestone Dome product, or skip using a screen protector altogether.
If you have the patience, I would reach out to whiteangelcl and ask for help: truly responsive, with an honest and earnest attempt to provide excellent customer service. I believe you'll be pleasantly surprised. I suggest this could be a better approach than simply bashing the product: the concept is excellent, the product is being improved in real time, and you'll get good support. I agree that prospective customers go into this with eyes open as it could be a challenge. But I wouldn't necessarily assume that a single bad experience with an install is the end of the road for this.
Jon
EDIT: BTW - you can clean the LOCA out of the speaker grill(s). Moisten a q-tip with some rubbing alcohol (I use 91%), and carefully swab it back and forth over the clogged speaker grill. You can use a wooden toothpick to drag across that LOCA after doing that -- but be VERY gentle and do NOT press inward, or you'll damage the speaker grill. But a gentle swiping / very light scraping will eventually remove the LOCA if you pre-soften it with the alcohol. Be sure to blot off any excess alcohol pretty quickly so it doesn't attack the rest of the LOCA under the edge of the screen protector. It takes a bit of patience, but you can clean out the speaker grill so they're pretty much like new with alcohol, q-tip and wooden toothpick (and remember to be gentle!!!).
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When the installation works, it really is nice. I've seen some finished installs that look great, so it does seem possible. But I'm beginning to think that it may be a combination of skill and luck to wind up with a "perfect" installation. I've found the company, as represented here by whiteangelcl, seems to make every effort to be supportive and responsive to any issues that are reported. Whiteangelcl has gone out of the way to provide free replacements when people have reported problems, and has been quick to respond to questions and comments. It's really rare to experience this level of customer support, and I for one really appreciate it.
Getting a tempered glass screen protector on the P2XL has certainly proven to be a challenge. This seems to be due to the phone's screen design, curved at the top and bottom as well as both sides -- as a result, TGSP's that attempt to span all four curved edges run into issues, with lifting, bubbles, etc, unless the placement is exactly right during installation. It seems that 99+ % of the protectors sold for this phone are garbage, with only the two available LOCA installed protectors being realistic tempered glass options: the InvisShield, and the Whitestone Dome Glass. The first provides greater coverage that conforms to overall screen design, and comes with much better customer support -- but it's typically difficult to install; the second is smaller with less screen coverage, installs more easily, but is more expensive, and customer support is not reputed to be anywhere near what you get with InvisShield.
I like the idea of the InvisShield, but I'm not having good luck installing it. I've tried a couple of times, and will make one more attempt, after which I may just give up and either go with the Whitestone Dome product, or skip using a screen protector altogether.
If you have the patience, I would reach out to whiteangelcl and ask for help: truly responsive, with an honest and earnest attempt to provide excellent customer service. I believe you'll be pleasantly surprised. I suggest this could be a better approach than simply bashing the product: the concept is excellent, the product is being improved in real time, and you'll get good support. I agree that prospective customers go into this with eyes open as it could be a challenge. But I wouldn't necessarily assume that a single bad experience with an install is the end of the road for this.
Jon
EDIT: BTW - you can clean the LOCA out of the speaker grill(s). Moisten a q-tip with some rubbing alcohol (I use 91%), and carefully swab it back and forth over the clogged speaker grill. You can use a wooden toothpick to drag across that LOCA after doing that -- but be VERY gentle and do NOT press inward, or you'll damage the speaker grill. But a gentle swiping / very light scraping will eventually remove the LOCA if you pre-soften it with the alcohol. Be sure to blot off any excess alcohol pretty quickly so it doesn't attack the rest of the LOCA under the edge of the screen protector. It takes a bit of patience, but you can clean out the speaker grill so they're pretty much like new with alcohol, q-tip and wooden toothpick (and remember to be gentle!!!).
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I really appreciate the thoughtful response, but I won't be giving this product a second chance. It nearly ruined my microphone. I spent the last hour letting rubbing alcohol soak in the bottom speaker and then blowing it out with canned air. People can sort of hear me now. I'm going to clean it a few more times and hope for the best.
I did 2 installs of the sgfresh invisShield. First one i installed it misaligned with the front facing camera and had a glare when using the front facing camera so i did a fresh install with a 2nd glass panelA. Second install went well and i am satisfied with their product, I too was very concerned with the loca flowing inside the front speakers so before both install i taped the front speaker with clear 3m tape. taped just to the very edge of the speaker and it prevented the loca to flow inside the speakers. The loca does stings when in contact with skin and face so be carefull. Excess loca will leak on the sides so i place the phone on a few sheets of paper table napkins to collect the excess loca as it flows out of the sides then I cured each end for 20 seconeds then cleaned the phone sides with wipes and alcohol. after cleaning i cure again for a couple of minutes. Also i used maybe 1 + 1/4 of the provided loca my reasoning was a bit more is better than it not reaching the edges of the glass. Also as a tip to removed the air bubbles on the edges lift gently pass the bubble then apply a bit of pressure when pressing down so that the bubble will be pushed out. it seem if you do it too gently the bubble just stays in place. Hope this help. i am satisfied with the product.
I love my invisishield. Just followed the video instructions.
No loca in speakers.
Bubbles were removed easily during installation by using the method described.
Sorry to hear you had so many challenges
No problem here, installation went fine on the first try.
Maybe such a deflamatory post should be moderated and removed.
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luigidk said:
Maybe such a deflamatory post should be moderated and removed.
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Personally I don't think it's rude or inaccurate - the post just reflects one person's experience and opinion. Others here may have similar experience, or different / better experience - and are free to share their opinions as well. I think a site like this would lose credibility if it were to filter out anyone's negative experiences, even if other folks have positive experiences with the same products or services. If somebody is rude, lies, or is disrespectful that's a problem (IMHO), but this is simply a matter of people sharing their own experiences.
That sucks that the LOCA leaked all over the speakers. Mine did not go into the speakers until I tried fixing a bubble. Even then I covered it up with a dust removal sticker and cured it and then cleaned it with some alcohol and a toothbrush (did not pour alcohol on to the speaker. Just on the toothbrush and then lightly brushed). Product is great though!
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Personally I don't think it's rude or inaccurate - the post just reflects one person's experience and opinion. Others here may have similar experience, or different / better experience - and are free to share their opinions as well. I think a site like this would lose credibility if it were to filter out anyone's negative experiences, even if other folks have positive experiences with the same products or services. If somebody is rude, lies, or is disrespectful that's a problem (IMHO), but this is simply a matter of people sharing their own experiences.
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On the other hand, there is already a thread about this screen protector. Why not to post it there? Why the need to make it so much more visible by screating new thread?
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Maybe such a deflamatory post should be moderated and removed.
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I'm not sure if you meant defamatory or inflammatory. My post isn't defamatory. I only described my experiences.
I can sort of see how the title could be taken as inflammatory. I changed the title and tweaked the first paragraph based on your feedback.
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On the other hand, there is already a thread about this screen protector. Why not to post it there? Why the need to make it so much more visible by screating new thread?
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My phone was permanently damaged during installation. My microphone works but is a noticeably muffled. My intention was to make sure people know this is a real risk. I didn't want the warning lost in a thread with 600 messages. There have been some very good replies to this thread. It now has good information on how to avoid this problem and how to recover from it. I think this thread could end up being very helpful to some people.
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I'm not sure if you meant defamatory or inflammatory. My post isn't defamatory. I only described my experiences.
I can sort of see how the title could be taken as inflammatory. I changed the title and tweaked the first paragraph based on your feedback.
My phone was permanently damaged during installation. My microphone works but is a noticeably muffled. My intention was to make sure people know this is a real risk. I didn't want the warning lost in a thread with 600 messages. There have been some very good replies to this thread. It now has good information on how to avoid this problem and how to recover from it. I think this thread could end up being very helpful to some people.
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All the info here is already in the original thread and also in the installation manual videos on youtube.
EDIT: looks like your thread was moved to the original thread.
I've done Whitestone loca and just ordered the sgfreshidea as Whitestones warranty is a joke. The kit I got from white stone had stickers to cover speaker grills and sponges to absorb any run off on the edges.. I'm not sure what sgfreshidea kit comes with as I have not received it yet. But to anyone else. Cover anywhere the the screen protector will not be. Clear tape should work. even with the Whitestone I had some run off but no issues getting into anything it shouldn't.
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Cover anywhere the the screen protector will not be. Clear tape should work. even with the Whitestone I had some run off but no issues getting into anything it shouldn't.
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Easier said than done - the InvisShield sits absolutely flush with the edge of the speaker grills.
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Easier said than done - the InvisShield sits absolutely flush with the edge of the speaker grills.
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The white stone is pretty close. I only did one application with my Whitestone kit (Which they wanted me to ship everything back at my expense, and charge $15 handling fee to send me my "warranty replacement", i can get 2 protectors from sgfreshidea for that price). The tabs they send actually lock into the frame they send that you set the phone in. And the tab-tape they send with white stone just barely cover the to the edge of speaker. So with the whitestone kit it's easier to get it right at the edge. I'll see how they work with the sgfreshidea when they they get here and report back. Maybe these tabs can be found elsewhere? As I found with the whitestone having a little missing local on the edge was not s killer... It takes a lot to life the screen off. But dust did kind of collect on one of the edges. Maybe I'll take the risk and use clear packing tape and no special frame kit and see if I can get it done with regular household items. If I screw up I have extra loca and it only hardens when it's hit with uv.
How i fixed my phone from the same problem.
So I had the same exact problem as you. So this is what i did. I took a toothbrush poured some rubbing alcohol on the speakers. and stared gently brushing it. Then after that go to you tube and play a very high bass song. the pour more alcohol on the speakers and let it sit you'll see the liquid vibrating. then flip it and beat it into a towel really hard. keep poring and flipping it and beating it onto a towel until the speakers sound better. And something for the mic take an ear swab and dip it i the alcohol and tap it into the mic and let it sit then flip it and beat it into a towel. Trust me it works. I just fixed mine I'm so happy. !!!!
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So I had the same exact problem as you. So this is what i did. I took a toothbrush poured some rubbing alcohol on the speakers. and stared gently brushing it. Then after that go to you tube and play a very high bass song. the pour more alcohol on the speakers and let it sit you'll see the liquid vibrating. then flip it and beat it into a towel really hard. keep poring and flipping it and beating it onto a towel until the speakers sound better. And something for the mic take an ear swab and dip it i the alcohol and tap it into the mic and let it sit then flip it and beat it into a towel. Trust me it works. I just fixed mine I'm so happy. !!!!
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For $50 this is NUTS!!! I switched to Whitestone cause SG was too difficult and messy. Whitestone glass is also way better. SG gets hazy if u gotta clean LOCA off. But there customer service is TOP NOTCH. Unfortunately if you're in Canada or the US. Delivery is like a month. Which again is NUTS!!!
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letrain02 said:
The white stone is pretty close. I only did one application with my Whitestone kit (Which they wanted me to ship everything back at my expense, and charge $15 handling fee to send me my "warranty replacement", i can get 2 protectors from sgfreshidea for that price). The tabs they send actually lock into the frame they send that you set the phone in. And the tab-tape they send with white stone just barely cover the to the edge of speaker. So with the whitestone kit it's easier to get it right at the edge. I'll see how they work with the sgfreshidea when they they get here and report back. Maybe these tabs can be found elsewhere? As I found with the whitestone having a little missing local on the edge was not s killer... It takes a lot to life the screen off. But dust did kind of collect on one of the edges. Maybe I'll take the risk and use clear packing tape and no special frame kit and see if I can get it done with regular household items. If I screw up I have extra loca and it only hardens when it's hit with uv.
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You use masking tape or the usual Scotch tape (probably any normal consumer level tape would work). I'm surprised no one thought of covering up the speakers for the install.
$45 on Amazon
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For $50 this is NUTS!!! I switched to Whitestone cause SG was too difficult and messy. Whitestone glass is also way better. SG gets hazy if u gotta clean LOCA off. But there customer service is TOP NOTCH. Unfortunately if you're in Canada or the US. Delivery is like a month. Which again is NUTS!!!
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Wow its $45 on amazon and primed shipping. So have you tried it? Does it come with the kit that helps with installation. Did any of the glue leak on the speakers?
mikepopo99 said:
Wow its $45 on amazon and primed shipping. So have you tried it? Does it come with the kit that helps with installation. Did any of the glue leak on the speakers?
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Tried em both. No LOCA leakage whatsoever. Plus u get tabs to cover the grills as a precaution. The kit makes installation a breeze. The only thing u need to do is properly clean the screen. With SG the protector doesn't come with protective film. So u have to clean that also. Making the chance of getting particles on the screen and thus wrecking the install way higher and alot more stressful. With the WStone Once put on. U don't even know it's there. Clear and fingerprint resistant like the phone screen. Whitestone is the one to get.
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Here you go guys! ^_^
http://www.stealthguards.com/index.php/
UPDATE WITH INSTRUCTIONS! Posted by akastixx (Thanks dude! )
What you will need:
**A razor or an exacto knife (or a thin sewing needle or safety pin if you're a Nancy)
**Clean hands (wash that damn cheeto grease off your hands, tard!)
**Clean Evo (easy way to clean it is one tiny windex/all purpose cleaner shot to the middle of the screen. Don't even spray, just make it dribble 4-5 drops. try it on your counter before you try it on your PRECIOUS, precious.)
**A plate, saucer, or the top to a plastic container.
**No alcohol or perception altering substance in you (this is not rocket science, but you have to stay sharp to successfully complete this mission!)
**A small amount of dish soap, hand soap or detergent.
**A cup of water.
**Time. You will not get great results if you do everything at once. You can probably get away with doing this in three parts, but I'd recommend four. You'll see why later. You should also do this when you feel you won't need to make or take a call or use your phone. This will take a couple of hours.
**Optional - a cutting board and florescent lighting (it's harder to see the shapes in "yellow" light)
Part 1 (The back):
** We will start with the back. The good thing about the back cover is that there is less unnecessary protector to fight with. Clean your hands and your Evo.
**pour about as much as water you could imagine the cupped palm of your hand could hold 3-4 times on your saucer.
**Squirt about 6 drops of dish liquid into the water stir it with your finger, then dry your finger.
**Place the Evo face down on a flat surface.
**Take the back protector. Place that on a flat surface. Pick one of the three holes at the top (speaker, camera or flash) and hold it down with the tip of your blade near the top of that hole. you don't need to cut anything. with your other hand peel the protector from the top slowly.
**There will be some resistance, and it will feel like you might tear your protector but if you pull slowly, the circle should stay there.
**Put the protector back and repeat with the other circles.
**You should now have your protector halfway peeled, and the 3 circles attached to the paper, or at least not attached to the protector.
**There are two ovals on the bottom half. You will need to place your blade between the oval for the kickstand, and the protector. Your blade needs to be in that outer oval that surrounds the kickstand.
**Peel the remaining half of the protector off. Be careful not to damage the material for the kick stand.
**You should now have the back protector (minus the kickstand) off. If you got a fingerprint or two on it, it's ok, but try not to touch anything besides the corner.
**While holding a corner of the protector (with the hand you don't write with) dip it in your soap water mix sticky side down. Hold up the protector. There should be some excess water at the bottom. The corner where your fingers are should be dry, so hold the protector with your writing hand, use the excess water to wet the dry spot, and slide the protector on the plate to remove any other excess. there should just be a film of water, not any water about to drip off.
**Note --- if you have to stop at any point with protector that's already peeled, place it halfway on/halfway off your plate so you don't lose it.
**Place your protector on the back part of the Evo. For best results, you should touch the the Evo with opposite bottom corner of the protector and slowly place the rest on. (if you're holding the protector in your right hand on the right corner of the protector, lay it on the Evo bottom left first.) You will have a couple of minutes to adjust it, so take your time. If you did this correctly, you should have no air bubbles, but if you do, gently smooth them out.
**Once the back is secure, you can start on the kickstand.
**The kickstand may be a little harder to remove. if there is a spot where you can gently slip your blade in to start peeling it off the paper, go for it. Hold the blade down on the part you don't need like you did before to pull the kickstand off. If not, you will need that cutting board or something underneath the paper that you don't mind having a razor cut on.
**Using the blade, touch one of the straight edges of the oval. Turn your blade so that if you were to make a cut, it would start at that edge, but end AWAY from the oval, not into it. Make your cut. You only need a tiny cut, just enough to slide your blade underneath so you can peel like I described one step ago. If you are using a needle, poke a hole on the outside of the edge as close as you can.
**Once the kickstand is peeled, wet it and place it. it is not a perfect fit. Place it an equal distance from all sides or however you'd like, and you are good to go.
**Now you will need to leave your phone alone for at least an hour. DO NOT TOUCH YOUR PHONE FOR AN HOUR, NIMROD. Don't go celebrating with a drink, either.
Part 2 (Front):
Ok, on to the front.
**Using your blade (or your needle), touch one of the long edges of the front protector and poke or cut like I described before. Make sure you are slow and careful. You do not want to cut into your side protector pieces.
**Wiggle your blade in and pry the front up like before.
**Dip and place your protector like before (slowly, opposite end first).
**This time, you will need to wait at least an hour and a half to two hours. The material on the front is different, and it takes longer to stick.
Part 3-4 (Sides):
Last up is the sides, the hardest part. If you notice the picture above, it has all the side pieces except for one. if you look at your actual paper, the missing piece is above the rest of them. you will put this piece on last.
First I will tell you where the pieces go, then I'll let you know how to put them on.
*Top piece - It will start from the edge of the power button, and slightly wrap around the the left side of the phone (if the screen is facing you).
*Top left side piece - it will continue where the top piece left off, covering most of the left side of the phone.
*Bottom left side piece - as the name suggests, it will continue from the last piece and stop at the USB icon.
*Right piece - the skinny part will start at the HDMI logo, and come up most of the right side of the phone, stopping short of the volume button.
*Mystery piece - it goes on the right top corner between the volume and power button.
Part 3 (Left Side):
**Remove, dip and place the top piece. You will place it on the phone in the same direction you peeled it off the phone, or the same way it shows in the picture above. My method of getting these suckers on right was this. Whether you are right handed or left handed, place the piece on the top. It doesn't need to wrap around yet, just make sure it's on there. Grab the bottom half phone with your right hand with the screen facing your palm. Look at the piece you put on. Gently adjust it with your left thumb. Once it is in place, you'll need to put the phone down, screen side up, but the top of the phone facing you. Cover the phone with your left hand and firmly place your thumb on the top piece, but be careful not to move it. Use your right thumb to smooth it around the corner.
**Note - if any of your pieces dry out, just put more soapy water on it. Just don't let it dry out too many times.
**Now you will notice the piece doesn't want to go on straight, and a air bubble will form at the corner. To fix that, first take your left thumb off the phone and make sure the top part is still in place. If it is not, adjust it. Place your thumb there again and gently smooth the bubble at the corner out first with your right thumb. It may try to come back, but smooth it out gently, the same way you gently wiped away the tear of a pansy iphone user when they saw your phone. Once the bubble is out, gently adjust the rest of the piece into place. If the bubble comes back, repeat the process - rub the bubble out, and adjust the rest. If you accidentally mess up the top, you are a failure at life. Start again.
**You may not get this on right before it starts drying out. if you don't, just re-wet the piece and start over.
**Once your top piece is on, remove, dip and place the left piece. This is easy. Just make sure it starts right where the last piece left off with no space in between. Be careful not to mess up the top.
**Sit the phone down for 20-30 minutes and let it dry.
Part 4 (The rest):
**Place the bottom left side piece on like you placed the top piece - hold it down with your left, rub the bubble out with your right, adjust the rest.
**You will place the right side piece the opposite way. Place the fat part of it right by the volume button, and once you have it on, secure it with your right thumb and smooth the bubble with your left, then adjust the rest. Be careful not to mess up your other pieces in the process.
**At this point, you should probably dry your phone out again, but if you're brave, slap on that final mystery piece. It doesn't matter what had you use to hold or smooth at this point, just get that piece on!
boo 2.85 shipping
Servers are el' crasho.
i jumped all over this, and went back for my wifes moment. Servers are crashing, but after a few page reloads, I was able to get it done.
Illinois = $2.85 shipping also. Guess that's how they are making their money....shouldn't cost more than a 1st class stamp...just like eBay...they profit from shipping...make you think your getting a deal. Not that this is a bad price for a full set but maybe 2 sets id order...
I don't know if the servers crashed but when you go to enter the expiration date of your credit card, the year field is so smushed that it cannot be displayed on the screen. My debit card wouldn't verify, so I used my credit card.
VERY slow server.
Nice find, I just ordered one.
sweet, i think imna order another after the free offer is over just to support them.
Just bought a carbon fiber phantom skinz 2 days ago and saw this and bought it. I'm good on covers for now hahaha. GOOD FIND!
+1 Great find man.
Even though I just ordered one, how good are the cases lol? Anybody have any prior experience with them?
@sprink- Dude, their not making *any* money from this or shipping (ok, they will have positive income considering it doesn't cost 2.85 to send one but it's not a significant amount). Their going to make money by the increased publicity this will give them; people will remember their the one's that gave away free covers. And after that, people will just return to them or refer other's to them when they need more covers.
edtate said:
+1 Great find man.
Even though I just ordered one, how good are the cases lol? Anybody have any prior experience with them?
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pretty sure they are relatively new, they still offering free protectors for the palm pre or htc hero. its $3, cant really go wrong with that price, but the normal $15 is still a bargin compared to $30 for invisoshield or $20 for ghost armor.
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Their going to make money by the increased publicity this will give them
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i just hope their bandwidth improves.. the website won't load
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Thanx just ordered 2, paid $4.88 for shipping only.
Well worth the price.
@shift_ Refresh CONSTANTLY
Alright, here's a review I found originally posted by bjbarr on sprintusers.com since I couldn't find any anywhere:
Here is my review:
the front and back skin fit pretty good. the cutout around the kickstand at the bottom is a tad too big but doesn't show to a point that it will be a problem.
the one thing I haven't figured out is the cutouts for the sides. They just don't seem right to me as the one I think is for the volume buttons doesn't really cover the whole side, in other words there is no cutout for the volume buttons. And I haven't figured out the one for the bottom around the mic.
I guess I just won't put anything there and same goes for the sides. I jsut may go ahead and order from BSE and give them a try as I have always been pleased with their skins but like yellotootr said that they probably all come from the same manufacturer and I am leaning toward that same thought, especially the cheaper ones anyway.
Which ever sensor that is to the right of the phone has no cutout but to the left of the earpeice has a cutout and for what??? Makes no sense but I am beginning to think that these skins are for another phone but can be used for the Evo but I haven't been looking to see what other phone they may fit.
They were easy to install though, but I don't think I got all the air bubbles out of the back skin but sometimes they just disappear over night. Guess I will find out tomorrow but I probably won't replace it just for that. It does disturb me that the corners and sides aren't protected because it seems those are the places that get scuffed the most.
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Ordered
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In on this one. I have that too good to be true feeling. We'll see.
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+1 Great find man.
Even though I just ordered one, how good are the cases lol? Anybody have any prior experience with them?
@sprink- Dude, their not making *any* money from this or shipping (ok, they will have positive income considering it doesn't cost 2.85 to send one but it's not a significant amount). Their going to make money by the increased publicity this will give them; people will remember their the one's that gave away free covers. And after that, people will just return to them or refer other's to them when they need more covers.
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you are right.... I just hate inflated shipping prices. Just wish these companies would charge actual shipping costs that's all. And yes word of mouth goes a long way.. also though sometimes companies get defective stuff in bulk at little or no cost to them and can't really sell them so they give them away and make money on the inflated shipping that won't be refunded.
ordered also! great find!
thanks for the link; order 4 total (2 evos and 2 blackberries); they also have lifetime warranty so that's a plus
ty. got 2 evo guards and 2 ipod guards for ~10 shipped.
So around more than a month ago I ordered one piece of XtremeGuard screen protector off eBay from the official retailer. I just really wanted to give it a try even knowing that the Xperia Play already comes with a shatter-proof film fitted on it. My order didn't arrive within the 20-day period so I requested a refund. They refunded my $4 and to my surprise, the item came this afternoon after more than a month since it was ordered.
Now I'm really thinking twice...
So here are my questions:
1. when installing the XtremeGuard screen protector, do I have to remove first the shatter-proof sheet already fitted on the Play's screen?
2. anyone got a video for the installation of XtremeGuard? I very well understand and speak English but then their instruction material is kinda vague. And knowing that the installation involves water and soap, I think this procedure should be taken seriously since it may damage internal circuitries of the phone. So a video of the installation should really help!
Thanks everyone! Will be waiting for your replies!
Screenguards are generally of varying quality. I haven't heard of that particular brand. However, most screen guards are applied in one of two methods:
1) Sticky/Sticker application. The screenguard has a side with a glue applied. You carefully apply it and hope for the best.
2) AdhesionCling with soap/water/alcohol. Basically you strip off the old guards if you have one, clean the screen, then apply a _very thin_ layer of this soap/water/isopropyl-alcohol solution to the screen. You then apply their clingwrap style of screen guard starting from the top and slowly slide it into place, trying to avoid as many bubbles as possible. You then use a credit card or a supplied squeegee tool to try and squeeze out the bubbles while the liquid is still there. If you are lucky and get them all out, let it dry for 4~12 hours. Then it should be stuck there pretty good until something randomly peels the corner.
With all screenguards there are pros and cons.
Pros:
Less likely to scratch screen. Slight bit more impact resistance against breaking your screen. Some provide anti-glare or even tilt-angle shading for privacy (prevents shoulder surfing, but lowers visible angles).
Cons: Slight to moderate less responsiveness and accuracy from the digitizer (thing that recognizes your fingers). Depending on the material and formulation, you may also have a negative tactile response (gummy or sticky, compared to the bare glass). Buildup of gunk around edges of screenguard (this is particularly prevalent on the whole-device type covers, or ones that aren't touching all the way to the bezels).
I can't prescribe an exact way of doing it, but look for some of the YouTube videos on how to apply the ZAGG screen protectors. They apply with the soap/water/alcohol solutions, so it may be close enough to your type to be similar visual instruction.
whoa thanks for that buddy!
now I'm thinking twice again.. I can live with lesser angled views but with LESS RESPONSIVE DIGITIZER? No way!
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whoa thanks for that buddy!
now I'm thinking twice again.. I can live with lesser angled views but with LESS RESPONSIVE DIGITIZER? No way!
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Any screen protector will do that. Some do it worse than others. Some do it so slightly that you don't notice it (or you just become adjusted to it over time).
By far my favorite screen protectors are the anti-glares. They don't have that sticky feeling that the BodyGuardz or Zagg ones do, and the viewing angle is butchered. After this anit-glare wears off I will finally also remove the stock one that comes on it. My touch response is very wonky sometimes.
Same deal here I tried the same buyer I'm sure and I had the same problem. Dont use ebay!
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Same deal here I tried the same buyer I'm sure and I had the same problem. Dont use ebay!
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Hello all!
First time posting in a while, so forgive me if I'm a bit rusty. I just got my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ yesterday, and my amFilm Ultra Glass Screen Protector today, so I thought I'd write up a little review. Sorry for no pics, but I was busy installing and trying to keep things dust-free
I've used Whitestone in the past but was disappointed with both my Note 8 and 9 installs, primarily because of the LOCA spiderwebbing on the edges. I figured I'd give another brand a shot, so I went searching here and found the amFilm Ultra Glass Screen Protector. A quick trip over to Amazon, and $40 later (for a full kit including *2* protectors) and here we are!
PACKAGING: The box is nice - wider and flatter than the WS product. It's clean and simple, but professional looking. Plus their website and install video are well done also. Inside the outer box are three smaller boxes. The largest contains the plastic frame, screen protectors, and wipes (I think). The medium size box contains the UV light and the MicroUSB cable. It appears to be identical to the WS product, but I don't know this for a fact, so take that for what it's worth. The smallest box contains the LOCA (2 tubes), extra absorption pads, plastic pin, tabs to place over the speaker, a bubble level, and a weight. Everything you need comes in this kit, including plenty of wet and dry wipes, microfiber cloths, and dust removal stickers. On the packaging is a QR code to go to the install video.
PRODUCT: Everything seems to be on the same quality scale as the WS product, with a few minor changes - 1) there is no LOCA applicator "bridge", you have to aim and dribble the solution by hand, 2) the pin is different - there's no more tilting the entire phone to move the liquid into position - the pin is angled and sets the glass down at an angle, and 3) the "fingerprint" weight (more on this later). Otherwise, if you've done the WS before, this isn't significantly different.
INSTALLATION: **REMINDER** REMOVE the factory plastic screen protector and clean your screen THOROUGHLY before proceeding! I ALMOST forgot, which would have been a disaster! I watched the video twice and didn't see any mention of this, so amFilm, here's a tip for you Anyway, installation is straightforward -put the little feet on the bottom of the phone to bring it flush with the pins inside, make sure the screen is 100% clean, install the sticker over the speaker, apply the liquid (making sure to absorb any "splatter" before proceeding!), peel the protective film off the glass, place it, and pull the pin. Once the liquid starts to spread, put the weight where the fingerprint sensor is and let it settle and "ooze" for 3-ish minutes. (NOTE - it's hard to locate the fingerprint scanner, so you might want to mark the frame in advance with a Sharpie (another tip for amFilm - marking that plastic with some kind of raised bumps or hash marks might be a good idea, or maybe a film for on top of the glass that marks where to place it - just a thought). After that, it's bake-time under the UV light, then you're done.
RESULTS: I'm very impressed so far. The glass appears to be nice and clear, and I can't even see the little "spots" in the corners others mentioned. I lucked out this time and no dust specs at all. No bubbles, etc. the fingerprint scanner appears to be working fine, although I haven't re-registered anything. It DOES require a little extra "umph" to scan, but that's not a big deal. Part of that could be me getting used to an in-screen scanner. There was minimal over-oozing, and the pre-installed pads absorbed everything fine. Barely needed a wipedown afterward.
FITMENT: There appears to be no flaws in placement using the guide, or in the fitment of the glass. It sits flat, and lines up exactly where it should. The cutout for the front-facing camera is exactly where it should be, and it's not overly-exaggerated in size. The edges leave plenty of room for putting the phone in a case (I've tried 4 so far, all fit without touching the glass edge, so there's no worry about case push on the glue). The bottom edge is just a tad bit short, maybe a 1/16", but that could be allowing for larger cases (I don't use the big bulky ones, so IDK).
OVERALL ASSESSMENT: 4.5/5 Stars - Great product, especially for the price. I'll keep you posted on long-term wear & quality, but for now, I'd say it's a great deal versus the competition.
Thanks for the feedback, just got my note 10 plus and am trying to filter out the paid/promo reviews vs legit ones.
I may go this route with amfilm as well. i bought the tech matte clear case, so i hope it fits well within it without popping off.
hows your experience after putting it in a case?
I applied mine the other day, and while I'm happy with the fit & finish, my fingerprint reader is spotty at best. In addition, my frame snapped, so I need to contact customer support to send me another one. because it snapped it ended up leaking LOCA all over the place, too.
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I applied mine the other day, and while I'm happy with the fit & finish, my fingerprint reader is spotty at best. In addition, my frame snapped, so I need to contact customer support to send me another one. because it snapped it ended up leaking LOCA all over the place, too.
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Isn't that glue suppose to cure? When you say it snapped did it spill liquid after the snap?
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Isn't that glue suppose to cure? When you say it snapped did it spill liquid after the snap?
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The frame snapped during install, without me noticing. Because it wasn't holding everything in place very well, the glue ran EVERYWHERE. Under the phone, over the sides, etc.
So yes, once I got everything fixed as well as I could, the glue cured fine. But you don't cure it until you're basically done and ready to go.
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The frame snapped during install, without me noticing. Because it wasn't holding everything in place very well, the glue ran EVERYWHERE. Under the phone, over the sides, etc.
So yes, once I got everything fixed as well as I could, the glue cured fine. But you don't cure it until you're basically done and ready to go.
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If you turn sensitivity on, does that resolve the fingerprint issue?
No, sensitivity is already up. I’ll have to replace the protector soon anyways, we’ll see if another install will make things better.
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No, sensitivity is already up. I’ll have to replace the protector soon anyways, we’ll see if another install will make things better.
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The September update includes improved finger printer recognition.
Ok I decided to go ahead and buy the amfilm note 10 plus screen protector from Amazon. Watched their video and then another on Youtube like twice. I think I got the install right, the whole weight placing situation is a guesstimate, if they are reading this thread - put something on the tray to take the guessing out of the process, like a stick with a weight so it stays in one spot.
Also, the glue stick - be careful when lifting it to make sure no drop falls out - i didnt put the black cap back on - saw an extra few big drops fall on my desk - no biggie - but if it was on the screen would have been a hassle.
then the UV light shuts off at 45 seconds - their last instruction is to keep it lit for 60 seconds - they should probably adjust it - again not a big issue.
in terms of quality of the screen protector - looks good - its a thin piece of glass - hopefully it protects the screen. the fingerprint sensor - its been a hit/miss kind of. i added my same thumb print twice, sometimes it has to read directly in the middle of the thumb, othertimes i feel like i have to press harder. I didn't try the fingerprint sensor before the screen protector so don't know if its just the way it is.
I would rate this like 3.5 / 5 -- i think tempered glass is solid, the fingerprint sensor can be annoying, its not really that smooth like if you slightly put your finger/thumb on it that it will open. like literally it won't take it on first try, on second or third try it will take - that is the most annoying part about it.
the install process was decent, as long as you watch the videos first - its straight forward.
price wise its sucky - i wish they would sell this for $20 - even with just one screen protector. $40 is steep, replacement protectors they can probably price between $7 to $10 i feel.
By the way this is the same UV type device used to cure fingernail paint - lol - your household may already have one.
I don't have the Whitestone to compare to. But I can say man the Samsung film screen protector is solid, used it for few days, even when taking it off it was on perfectly. I kind of miss it but i think tempered glass will offer more protection on a fall.
Pictures, please.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VKHMK9J/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_apa_i_2oX0DbYMHRS0A
I've installed two of these protectors on a note 10 + and a note 10. I did have the issue with the frame cracking with the note 10+ but the company has since fixed that issue.
I've used WDG for a few years now and this one has exceeded my expectations and is better than Whitestone.
The installation is simple and comes with a weighted cylinder that's used when you're curing the glass with the UV light. I've had zero issues with the finger scanner as well as my daughter on her note 10. I actually put the cylinder on while the glue was spreading. I can actually see a circle where the finger print scanner is at and I think this is a recipe for success. I've installed these just after release and they still look brand new. Scanner works great! I can provide forage if anyone is interested. The price is great for getting two in the box. I highly recommend!
Hey everbody,
I got some stains on the display that cannot be removed any more. If you move over them with the finger tip, you can feel a unevenness down. I have no idea where they could have been from.
What do u guys think. Im usually really careful with my smartphone.
I am by no means an expert first and foremost.
But when I have something I can't get off my glasses with regular cleaning, I will use some toothpaste and a soft microfiber cloth and that has just the right abrasiveness to get whatever is on my glasses off them. Granted there's more cleaning involved but it works for me
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I am by no means an expert first and foremost.
But when I have something I can't get off my glasses with regular cleaning, I will use some toothpaste and a soft microfiber cloth and that has just the right abrasiveness to get whatever is on my glasses off them. Granted there's more cleaning involved but it works for me
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Thanks mate. But im pretty sure these are tiny "holes" in the top layer of the display.
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What do u guys think. Im usually really careful with my smartphone.
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I think that you have not been careful enough and somehow damaged your display. It's possible that you only damaged the oleophobic coating, and not the underlying glass (should be easy to tell by looking at the display when it's ON - do the pixels underneath the damage still work?).
There is no other explanation to this, at least not from the looks of it (since you talk about "a[sic] unevenness down" - implying not superficial stains, but serious damage). There are extremely rare instances where displays damage themselves ("spontaneous shatter") but that is another matter entirely and has nothing to do with your - apparent - circular damages (since those lead to the shatter of the entire tempered glass). I'd wager either fire or acid or something else destructive happened here, but only you can tell.
Fire damage leaves a distinctive mark
Gorilla Glas Victus has a 6-7 on Mohs scale of hardness, you can pick whatever might have been your problem:
I have the same issue, appeared two days ago. I have one small one that looks the same as your small ones, On mine the mark is under the top glass, it almost looks like dust under an applied screen protector. If I look at it at 180 deg for the mark I can't see it at all, not until i move about 5 deg off 180, then at about a 45 deg angle it dissapears again.
To me that very big one looks like damage to the top surface, then the others look like they are below the glass
did you possibly get alcohol on the screen that dried up? I have something similar that happened to my screen and the only thing I can remember that possibly got on my screen was alcohol. I woke up the next day and noticed the spots on my phone but only when the screen is off
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did you possibly get alcohol on the screen that dried up? I have something similar that happened to my screen and the only thing I can remember that possibly got on my screen was alcohol. I woke up the next day and noticed the spots on my phone but only when the screen is off
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Alcohol is bad for the phone's display because it'll heat up the display and the glue inside will lose its stickiness. This causes the display to fall out or some damages like this cause the display to burn inside and show like this!
@randylahey786 Why in all heavens should alcohol heat up the display unless you burn it on the display/phone ? ..... and just for the record: i have been using isopropanol since ages to clean glasses, binoculars and, yes, also smartphone displays. BTW the nice tabs provided with many display protectors for cleaning the display are just alcohol swabs as well.....
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I have the same issue, appeared two days ago. I have one small one that looks the same as your small ones, On mine the mark is under the top glass, it almost looks like dust under an applied screen protector. If I look at it at 180 deg for the mark I can't see it at all, not until i move about 5 deg off 180, then at about a 45 deg angle it dissapears again.
To me that very big one looks like damage to the top surface, then the others look like they are below the glass
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can u upload a photo of yours?
bolo808 said:
did you possibly get alcohol on the screen that dried up? I have something similar that happened to my screen and the only thing I can remember that possibly got on my screen was alcohol. I woke up the next day and noticed the spots on my phone but only when the screen is off
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Since i dont trink alcohol thats pretty unlikely, but yea, sth must have spilled over there but i have no idea what tbh.
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@randylahey786 Why in all heavens should alcohol heat up the display unless you burn it on the display/phone ? ..... and just for the record: i have been using isopropanol since ages to clean glasses, binoculars and, yes, also smartphone displays. BTW the nice tabs provided with many display protectors for cleaning the display are just alcohol swabs as well.....
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I have seen issues with some people who have used sanitizer to clean the display and the display came out! Sanitizer contains alcohol in it, also isopropanol comes as a cleaning liquid especially for phones so they would've tested it but sanitizer or alcohol drinks are worst!
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I have seen issues with some people who have used sanitizer to clean the display and the display came out! Sanitizer contains alcohol in it, also isopropanol comes as a cleaning liquid especially for phones so they would've tested it but sanitizer or alcohol drinks are worst!
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I agree, as you never know what stuff is included in those sanitizers and of course alcoholic drinks may include sugar and other ingredients that could leave residue on the screen after drying out.
I always get pure isopropanol for cleaning purposes, this way I know it's safe to use
Quite a few people on r/GooglePixel have had the same issue upon release - it's been speculated that it's something to do with the oleophobic coating not adhering to the glass & is a manufacturing fault.
I would contact Google and see if they will replace the device for you as it will probably get worse over time.
it looks like your oleophobic coating has been removed. Can you post some different photos? Do you have another smartphone you can add to the photo? Your display looks very dull (but it could be the photo).
I recommend the toothpaste and micro fiber trick the other comment suggested. then grab some oleophobic spray and coat your screen again. It takes 2 or 3 coatings to get it even but it works well. Unfortunately coating isn't covered in Google's Official Warranty (it says its not on their website). There's a good oleophobic brand that many people use and they swear by it but I forget the name.
But I would get the display even and unform first before doing anything - maybe even using a polisher tool with a really soft brush. Someone did this on reddit on their 6 Pro a few months ago to remove scratches and it worked really well.
I would also try to get as many reddit and xda posts as you can and document them, then contact Google and see what they can do. Also maybe try going to your nearest UbreakIfixit - see what they say? They see hundreds of different phones a day. But there seems to be over 15 posts on reddit that shows the same type of "Spotting" or "blotches" that appear on the 6 / 6 Pro. Not sure what exactly is going on there but some have gotten their devices replaced if I remember correctly (but others were told to kick rocks by google support, so make sure you prepare yourself before calling).
xflowy said:
can u upload a photo of yours?
Since i dont trink alcohol thats pretty unlikely, but yea, sth must have spilled over there but i have no idea what tbh.
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Sorry missed you asking this question, will need to find a camera to take the photo
randylahey786 said:
I have seen issues with some people who have used sanitizer to clean the display and the display came out! Sanitizer contains alcohol in it, also isopropanol comes as a cleaning liquid especially for phones so they would've tested it but sanitizer or alcohol drinks are worst!
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Neither sanitizer nor alcohol belong on a display. If people damage their phones on purpose or through the sheer act of incompetence, Google is hardly at fault... a phones display should only be cleaned with a fine microfiber cloth - and if the display is too dirty, only a special display cleaner should be used. Even that however should never be DIRECTLY applied to the display, but only used on a microfiber cloth again, which is then used in a slightly wet state to clean the display.
Since I know people, and people do stuff like that (smashing glasses cleaning cloth drenched in alcohol, sanitizer or something like that onto their phones), it's hard to judge/evaluate these threads here. Often it just seems like something that can easily be caused by a user, and is probably not a hardware issue.
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Hey everbody,
I got some stains on the display that cannot be removed any more. If you move over them with the finger tip, you can feel a unevenness down. I have no idea where they could have been from.
What do u guys think. Im usually really careful with my smartphone.
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any update on this?
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any update on this?
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what u mean? the stains are not removable. the coating seems to be gone at this area. i didnt try the suggestion yet to completely redo the coating
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what u mean? the stains are not removable. the coating seems to be gone at this area. i didnt try the suggestion yet to completely redo the coating
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was wondering if you tried google support at all, just to see what they would say. there's other instances of "blotching" on reddit on the Google Pixel forum. Do you know how it might have happened now that its been a few more days>?
xflowy said:
Hey everbody,
I got some stains on the display that cannot be removed any more. If you move over them with the finger tip, you can feel a unevenness down. I have no idea where they could have been from.
What do u guys think. Im usually really careful with my smartphone.
You have touch these screen with something containing parfum
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Same issue. It was caused by dripping some salsa on the screen at a restaurant and didn't notice it right away. First time I've ever had anything like this happen to a phone screen.
I ost my Note 10+ a few days ago, a first for me. I immediately considered it found and stolen as I could see the person who found it via GPS, driving about the area where it fell off of my truck. So after two unanswered calls to said phone? I immediately wiped it and so at least my very minor personal data is secured. Whomever it as, *did* happen to get a very extensive, 40,000+ file .flac/.mp3 library on my spare SD Card but that's quite redundantly maintained/backed up so no real loss.
I immediately bought an exact replica of the lost Note 10+ from the same great seller as before, an ebay "excellent" condition refurb. The phone was here in 2 days then a quick visit to the local ATT store and I'm now back in business as usual, taking literally about 20 minutes to have the exact same phone/usage apps/settings and basically a Note 10+ set up precisely as my former phone had been. This is a relative topic with most users, myself included, as each of us may more or less appeciate any given app or feature ... but for me? Google sync and restore is a metaphorical Golden Unicorn(tm) lol.
But to my main question...
How can I determine if the Samsung default screen protector/film is installed on this new "refurb."
The screen on this unit is flawless, having no discernable marks or scratches, not even of the micro variety. But I have noticed that the thumbprint sensor is quite more responsive than my previous Note 10+ which definitely had the stock screen protector as, over the years, it had began to bubble ever so slightly and in certain places.
I've examined the edges of the new screen at great length under more than ample lighting and with very good magnification equipment and can find no visible "seam" or otherwise around the edges and where one would expect to find such a seam for any phone panel that had one of those super thin, super transparent protectors installed.
I will say that I found the stock Samsung protector on my first Note 10+ to be quite good, as good as any of the "tempered glass" varieties I'd used with previous phones though after two years of fairly rough use, there were small areas appearing where the Samsung factory screen film was beginning to show it's natural limitations.
So any ideas short of close examination with a good light source and high quality magnifying glasses would be welcome. If I do determine it is completely lacking in the inclusion of the factory installed panel film/protector (only reason I can imagine is if the previous user had removed it) then I will of course want to begin researching an appropriate 3rd party option that works well while maintaining solid use of the fingerprint sensor...
So any tips would be welcome...
Thanks in advance,
Joel Harris
The front cam hole will likely have a cut out in the screen protector if present. Slight seams are visible on one or more of the edges. Also the glass feels different than any plastic protector. Gorilla IQ Sheild is a good wet apply protector.
s1rrah said:
I ost my Note 10+ a few days ago, a first for me. I immediately considered it found and stolen as I could see the person who found it via GPS, driving about the area where it fell off of my truck. So after two unanswered calls to said phone? I immediately wiped it and so at least my very minor personal data is secured. Whomever it as, *did* happen to get a very extensive, 40,000+ file .flac/.mp3 library on my spare SD Card but that's quite redundantly maintained/backed up so no real loss.
I immediately bought an exact replica of the lost Note 10+ from the same great seller as before, an ebay "excellent" condition refurb. The phone was here in 2 days then a quick visit to the local ATT store and I'm now back in business as usual, taking literally about 20 minutes to have the exact same phone/usage apps/settings and basically a Note 10+ set up precisely as my former phone had been. This is a relative topic with most users, myself included, as each of us may more or less appeciate any given app or feature ... but for me? Google sync and restore is a metaphorical Golden Unicorn(tm) lol.
But to my main question...
How can I determine if the Samsung default screen protector/film is installed on this new "refurb."
The screen on this unit is flawless, having no discernable marks or scratches, not even of the micro variety. But I have noticed that the thumbprint sensor is quite more responsive than my previous Note 10+ which definitely had the stock screen protector as, over the years, it had began to bubble ever so slightly and in certain places.
I've examined the edges of the new screen at great length under more than ample lighting and with very good magnification equipment and can find no visible "seam" or otherwise around the edges and where one would expect to find such a seam for any phone panel that had one of those super thin, super transparent protectors installed.
I will say that I found the stock Samsung protector on my first Note 10+ to be quite good, as good as any of the "tempered glass" varieties I'd used with previous phones though after two years of fairly rough use, there were small areas appearing where the Samsung factory screen film was beginning to show it's natural limitations.
So any ideas short of close examination with a good light source and high quality magnifying glasses would be welcome. If I do determine it is completely lacking in the inclusion of the factory installed panel film/protector (only reason I can imagine is if the previous user had removed it) then I will of course want to begin researching an appropriate 3rd party option that works well while maintaining solid use of the fingerprint sensor...
So any tips would be welcome...
Thanks in advance,
Joel Harris
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Most likely, Being a refurb with flawless screen, it probably had it's screen replaced and replacement screens don't ship with that Samsung factory screen protector on them. Most likely no screen protector in place
blackhawk said:
The front cam hole will likely have a cut out in the screen protector if present. Slight seams are visible on one or more of the edges. Also the glass feels different than any plastic protector. Gorilla IQ Sheild is a good wet apply protector.
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Thanks mate ...
Checked all the obvious variables and there's def no protector on the screen.
I found tons of "IQ Shield" variants on Amazon but none specifically made by Gorilla, which is a brand I tend to trust. Any further info?
In the interim, I bought this uber cheap but very well reviewed cheapo. If it works half as good as the reviews seem to indicate then it should be fine.
Thanks again ....
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Thanks mate ...
Checked all the obvious variables and there's def no protector on the screen.
I found tons of "IQ Shield" variants on Amazon but none specifically made by Gorilla, which is a brand I tend to trust. Any further info?
In the interim, I bought this uber cheap but very well reviewed cheapo. If it works half as good as the reviews seem to indicate then it should be fine.
Thanks again ....
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Get a couple, just in case. Things must be as dust free as possible ie spotless on the glass and room where applied. Don't touch the glass or back surface of the protector. Use enough of the fluid to get it aligned spot then work the air bubbles out. Watch it to make sure it stays adhered to the curve portions of the screen.
Just press and briefly hold if it lifts up. Use a little of the fluid if needed. If it ever lifts up on the sides later as long as no dust or dirt get under it, it can be reattached with a little water and pressing it down.
Leave it set up for at least a couple hours before using if possible. Mind the edges don't lift, usually after 10 minutes that's no longer an issue. Any small micro bubbles will be absorb in a few days... not big air bubbles though.
The Zizo Bolt is an excellent case for it.
That's all I use, zero damage in almost 3 years.
Enjoy, the Beast is a great phone!
blackhawk said:
Get a couple, just in case. Things must be as dust free as possible ie spotless on the glass and room where applied. Don't touch the glass or back surface of the protector. Use enough of the fluid to get it aligned spot then work the air bubbles out. Watch it to make sure it stays adhered to the curve portions of the screen.
Just press and briefly hold if it lifts up. Use a little of the fluid if needed. If it ever lifts up on the sides later as long as no dust or dirt get under it, it can be reattached with a little water and pressing it down.
Leave it set up for at least a couple hours before using if possible. Mind the edges don't lift, usually after 10 minutes that's no longer an issue. Any small micro bubbles will be absorb in a few days... not big air bubbles though.
The Zizo Bolt is an excellent case for it.
That's all I use, zero damage in almost 3 years.
Enjoy, the Beast is a great phone!
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Thanks for the detailed tips, friend. Much appreciated. But exactly what screen protector are you referring to? The originally mentioned "Q Shield" variant? Or the one I mentioned already ordering, which is the Apiker random find off of Amazon.
If you're referring to a specific brand/model of protector, be it of the "Q Shield" sort or otherwise? Please send me a link if your able to do so.
As it turns out? The randomly ordered Apiker kit I bought from Amazon based solely on user reviews alone, has turned out to be pretty okay. As with many such products, especially those for phones with curved edges, there really is value in going over some install videos and what not but the first application turned out pretty damn good.
The kit came with 4 of everything so for the money and the fact that 2nd and further applications would of course be more intuitive, makes it a decent value.
Also, the Apiker screen kit I bought is not tempered glass but some other sort of material but still has a decent feel overall. The main thing I like is the thumb sensor is still every bit as sensitive/responsive as it was when using the naked, glass screen.
But send me some info on the kit you were referring to that uses what you called "fluid" ... I'll get one of those too lol!
And yeah, mang. Note10+ FTW! Mine was stolen about a week ago .. only time I've ever lost it ... but it wasn't 20 minutes before I'd ordered a new "refurb" off Ebay which I'm currently using now.
I tend to always buy whatever the flagship Sammy was 3 or so years ago and always end up saving tons of money and being very happy with whatever that ends up being. I bought a 1 day temp new Galaxy A12 at the local ATT shop to use till the Note10+ replacement came in and the Note10+ processing speed is WAY better than the A12, which frankly was just a sluggish dog in comparison.
Thanks again for the info..
"IQ Shield"