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invisible shield

hi all
i've preordered a desire, it's my third htc device but the first device with capacitive display.
does anybody have experience with a capacitive display and invisible shield?
is this going to bite each other? maybe it's a stupid question, but i want to protect my brand new phone..
thank for replies!

I had Invisible Shield on my Hero, and it's useless. You won't get scratches on your screen, unless you try to make scratches.

I've tried this product on two phones - one capacitive multitouch - the other a bb bold. A waste of time and money for both. You'll be peeling it all off in a number of weeks as the edges get frayed and any speck of dust you trapped when 'installing' will drive you nuts!
Just stick with the phone - you'll be fine.

Yes is a waste of money and time. I have it on my HD and the stylus constantly get stuck cos is the shield is too soft... Don’t bother.

The desire will have a teflon layer on the screen. It makes sure you dont get fingerprints on your screen. If you put a screenprotector on it you will have fingerprints on your screen again. So I think it's even worse to put a screen protector on your screen.

Wow everyone is against the protective layer. I have had it on my Hero since minute one, for 5 months now, and until now you can't tell it's there. I also use the phone and play with it constantly.
I'm sure we all hate to see the screen get scratched right? so it's better safe than sorry, in my opinion. You just need to be extra careful when installing it to eliminate any apparent dust getting trapped.
I would also recommend buying and extra one for the long run.

thanks for all replies.
hmm.. i love my invisible shield on the diamond. it's no as slippery as the plastic back cover and if i write with the stylus it helps to. also i can put the desire on my car's dashboard and it's not slipping away (for navigation).
i think i'll buy a shield. if it's not good, i have removed it within a blink of an eye and my desire costs very little, so i can absorb this 30 $

So four 'no's and a maybe has translated into a yes??
So you either work for a certain protective screen supplier (as you specifically mentioned a brand) and are after cheap advertising.
Or you had made up your mind irrespective of people's time and opinion - which is just plain rude.

Agree with the others. It's a waste of money.
I had a shield on my Diamond, and I think it was needed on that one, but on my Hero it is absolutely not needed.
I've had my Hero for almost 8 months, and not a scratch. I've dropped it on the ground several times, but the screen remains as shiney as the day I got it.

pphillips001 said:
So four 'no's and a maybe has translated into a yes??
So you either work for a certain protective screen supplier (as you specifically mentioned a brand) and are after cheap advertising.
Or you had made up your mind irrespective of people's time and opinion - which is just plain rude.
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me? oh.. come on! i just want to know how other people think about this.
and a scratch-proof display is just a fairy-tale!! i think you work for a display company with this (really) scratch-proof display..
no way, buddy, really
edit: anyway, not every screen protector is equal to another and my first question was, if a protector stops the electrical field of the touchpanel... that's it..

I have a a Zagg one (same product) on my Zune HD. No isses here at all. Also put it on a Omnia HD this was a bit more problematic as it was my first time and the edges did fray but my Zune HD looks good as new .

Guys just watch this video to the end and I'm sure ALL of you will use the invisible shield.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHhT1jalJg0&NR=1
At least with it on the screen you can confidently clean it when it gets to that.

salahag said:
Guys just watch this video to the end and I'm sure ALL of you will use the invisible shield.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHhT1jalJg0&NR=1
At least with it on the screen you can confidently clean it when it gets to that.
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That video just tells me that the guy needs to wash his hands!

zaphyr said:
That video just tells me that the guy needs to wash his hands!
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yes, my thoughts exactly

He is sitting at a dinner table that has clearly just had dinner eaten from it and there is lot' of evidence that the food was sticky finger type stuff in fairness to the poor fella!
I will use a screen protector but defo not paying $30. When I got my G1 I used a razor blade to cut the little pull tab thing off the transit screen protector and left it in place until 2 weeks ago. 17 months! I still have the other one that came in the box! anyone want to buy it?

Please delete this thread.

This can now be deleted. Thanks!

If you keep the screen protector on too long it will F*CK your screen up. That's why they give you three. I'd suggest keeping them and changing at least every 4 months.
I left a screen protector on my Dare for its entire 2 years and the screen came off with the protector.... Be carful

Hey it's nice of you to put these up for free but are these necessary with the gorilla glass?

ACD168 said:
If you keep the screen protector on too long it will F*CK your screen up. That's why they give you three. I'd suggest keeping them and changing at least every 4 months.
I left a screen protector on my Dare for its entire 2 years and the screen came off with the protector.... Be carful
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The Dare also had a thin plastic screen over a resistive touchscreen, not a glass screen like newer touchscreen devices. I had a screen protector on it for two years, as you did, and it was fine.

thenickisme said:
Hey guys,
When I got my phone I got a pack of three screen protectors with it. I put one on mine and now I'm left with two more that I'm sure I'll never use. I noticed that there are a lot of people on here looking for screen protectors.
So if anyone wants them, shoot me a PM with your address (Continental US ONLY) and I'll respond with my paypal - all I'm asking is a few dollars to cover shipping.
If this needs to be moved, I will be happy to oblige -- just thought this would be the best spot to give these away. Also, whenever they are shipped out I'll delete this thread; no need to have it on this board any longer than necessary.
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I'd love to have one of these as I've never used one!
if you haven't found people yet I'm going to PM you my email address now

@LOL!!
Yes, believe me, they are. I used my SGS a month without a screen protector. After I noticed a small scratch on the screen I bought immediately a few protectors + case. It is gorilla glass, but it's not indestructible... my headphones where enough to get it a scratch, even if it's a small one - no more risking.

[Q] XtremeGuard on XPLAY

So around more than a month ago I ordered one piece of XtremeGuard screen protector off eBay from the official retailer. I just really wanted to give it a try even knowing that the Xperia Play already comes with a shatter-proof film fitted on it. My order didn't arrive within the 20-day period so I requested a refund. They refunded my $4 and to my surprise, the item came this afternoon after more than a month since it was ordered.
Now I'm really thinking twice...
So here are my questions:
1. when installing the XtremeGuard screen protector, do I have to remove first the shatter-proof sheet already fitted on the Play's screen?
2. anyone got a video for the installation of XtremeGuard? I very well understand and speak English but then their instruction material is kinda vague. And knowing that the installation involves water and soap, I think this procedure should be taken seriously since it may damage internal circuitries of the phone. So a video of the installation should really help!
Thanks everyone! Will be waiting for your replies!

Screenguards are generally of varying quality. I haven't heard of that particular brand. However, most screen guards are applied in one of two methods:
1) Sticky/Sticker application. The screenguard has a side with a glue applied. You carefully apply it and hope for the best.
2) AdhesionCling with soap/water/alcohol. Basically you strip off the old guards if you have one, clean the screen, then apply a _very thin_ layer of this soap/water/isopropyl-alcohol solution to the screen. You then apply their clingwrap style of screen guard starting from the top and slowly slide it into place, trying to avoid as many bubbles as possible. You then use a credit card or a supplied squeegee tool to try and squeeze out the bubbles while the liquid is still there. If you are lucky and get them all out, let it dry for 4~12 hours. Then it should be stuck there pretty good until something randomly peels the corner.
With all screenguards there are pros and cons.
Pros:
Less likely to scratch screen. Slight bit more impact resistance against breaking your screen. Some provide anti-glare or even tilt-angle shading for privacy (prevents shoulder surfing, but lowers visible angles).
Cons: Slight to moderate less responsiveness and accuracy from the digitizer (thing that recognizes your fingers). Depending on the material and formulation, you may also have a negative tactile response (gummy or sticky, compared to the bare glass). Buildup of gunk around edges of screenguard (this is particularly prevalent on the whole-device type covers, or ones that aren't touching all the way to the bezels).
I can't prescribe an exact way of doing it, but look for some of the YouTube videos on how to apply the ZAGG screen protectors. They apply with the soap/water/alcohol solutions, so it may be close enough to your type to be similar visual instruction.

whoa thanks for that buddy!
now I'm thinking twice again.. I can live with lesser angled views but with LESS RESPONSIVE DIGITIZER? No way!

narflynn619 said:
whoa thanks for that buddy!
now I'm thinking twice again.. I can live with lesser angled views but with LESS RESPONSIVE DIGITIZER? No way!
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Any screen protector will do that. Some do it worse than others. Some do it so slightly that you don't notice it (or you just become adjusted to it over time).

By far my favorite screen protectors are the anti-glares. They don't have that sticky feeling that the BodyGuardz or Zagg ones do, and the viewing angle is butchered. After this anit-glare wears off I will finally also remove the stock one that comes on it. My touch response is very wonky sometimes.

Same deal here I tried the same buyer I'm sure and I had the same problem. Dont use ebay!

Cubsfan3493 said:
Same deal here I tried the same buyer I'm sure and I had the same problem. Dont use ebay!
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why what happened?

Device front glass

Hi dear
Just wonder do you know what is made the front glass of this device?
Do we really need the screen protector?
Is it gorilla glass?
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Glass?
anyone? information?

No screen protection, according to GSM Arena... But being that they didn't get the resolution correct in their specs (1920 x 1080 instead of 2560 x 1600), not sure if I would trust their info completely. Other sites are saying it uses Gorilla Glass 3.
http://www.handheldwar.com/samsung/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition-full-specifications/
Samsung also just purchased an additional 7.4% stake in Corning (maker of Gorilla Glass), so its a pretty safe bet to assume all premium Samsung mobile devices use Gorilla Glass.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-acquires-74-percent-share-gorilla-glass-maker-corning
That being said, I always use screen protectors even with Gorilla Glass, as it is scratch "resistant" not scratch proof. I have a few different protectors coming in this week. Going to test them all with the S Pen and will be sure to post my findings.

Thanks a lot in assume that your replay will b helpful to others as well
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Personally, I do not use a screen protector on a tablet and will not use one on this device. I do use one on all of my smartphones. For me, it is two drastically different use cases. My smartphone is in and out of pockets, in car holders, can be dropped easily, often used while walking, etc. For me, the tablet is much different. I am typically using the tablet while sitting down and when I'm done the case cover goes back over the screen and it sits. I just don't see the need like I do for a smartphone. I find that it really detracts from the experience on a tablet, especially with the S Pen.

jalanjkcarp said:
Personally, I do not use a screen protector on a tablet and will not use one on this device. I do use one on all of my smartphones. For me, it is two drastically different use cases. My smartphone is in and out of pockets, in car holders, can be dropped easily, often used while walking, etc. For me, the tablet is much different. I am typically using the tablet while sitting down and when I'm done the case cover goes back over the screen and it sits. I just don't see the need like I do for a smartphone. I find that it really detracts from the experience on a tablet, especially with the S Pen.
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Wait until you drop your tablet, yes, I've done it (on a Note 8.0), and the case and screen protector saved it.

I am sure that dropping it is a possibility. All I am saying is that my use of the tablet is much different than my use of a smartphone and therefore it is a risk I'm willing to take. I still use a case. I am not sure how you know that a screen protector had anything to do with saving the device when you dropped it. For me, the reduction in usability and screen clarity is greater than the risk of damage. Personal preference.

jalanjkcarp said:
I am not sure how you know that a screen protector had anything to do with saving the device when you dropped it.
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They're called eyes.

californiarailroader said:
They're called eyes.
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Please. The point I was making, assuming you are talking about the glass not breaking, was how would you know that it would have broken without the protector on? If you were talking about a scratch that is obviously something different.

jalanjkcarp said:
Please. The point I was making, assuming you are talking about the glass not breaking, was how would you know that it would have broken without the protector on? If you were talking about a scratch that is obviously something different.
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Since you weren't there, and haven't seen my Note, don't you think you should give me the benefit of the doubt? No matter, it's not worth arguing over, think what you want.

jalanjkcarp said:
Personally, I do not use a screen protector on a tablet and will not use one on this device. I do use one on all of my smartphones. For me, it is two drastically different use cases. My smartphone is in and out of pockets, in car holders, can be dropped easily, often used while walking, etc. For me, the tablet is much different. I am typically using the tablet while sitting down and when I'm done the case cover goes back over the screen and it sits. I just don't see the need like I do for a smartphone. I find that it really detracts from the experience on a tablet, especially with the S Pen.
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I understand your point, but my usage adds a certain twist to the equation... kids. I have 3 (soon to be 4) under the age of 6. They do occasionally get a hold of the tablet, and the protectors are well worth it.
The screen protector I used on my Note 8 didn't inhibit the S Pen at all, and I'm hoping the ones that should be here this week will work just as well.

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i prefer not having a protector on mine also, but they do offer some advantages.
one is that they don't show smudges as much (at least the anti glare don't).
another, is that if you do crack your screen you won't have to worry about shards.
and third is (obviously) scratches.
given that these are pen input devices, getting a grain of sand or other hard material stuck on the tip is easier than you'd think. there are quite a few people scratching their notes (all variants) just from penning and not realizing the nibs have been contaminated.
i may end up getting a protector later b/c once you see a scratch you can't unsee it, lol.

The screen protector saved my phone... and my wallet.
jalanjkcarp said:
Please. The point I was making, assuming you are talking about the glass not breaking, was how would you know that it would have broken without the protector on? If you were talking about a scratch that is obviously something different.
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A friend of mine broke her Galaxy S3. It had a screen/scratch protector on it. The guys at the local mobile store I got the phone repaired at, told me that the protector held together the shattered pieces of glass and also prevented that glass from damaging the LCD underneath. It helped them save the LCD underneath and made the whole process of putting a new glass much simpler.
Cost me only a 1000 rupees, which is about $16.

Screen sensitivity and glass protectors

Hey all,
I've had the G4 for about 3 weeks and the screen sensitivity is my only gripe. It sometimes takes several taps to get it to respond and when scrolling in various apps it will not always respond. Like many others I have a glass screen protector and I've read a few times that people think that might be part of the issue. I want to test this without destroying the current protector I have by removing it. I have also noticed that if I need to push for several seconds on the same spot (mainly for long pressing on the keyboard) my finger will move around slightly and not always tap the area I was aiming for.
Anyone else remove their glass screen protector and notice better performance? Or maybe switching to a non-glass protector? It can be frustrating when thinking you tapped the screen and then doing it again and again.

I went to return my phone, peeled off the screen protector, and the difference was huge. Still very weak touch response even without a protector, though. Less sensitive than a Samsung or iPhone anyways. I decided to just get used to it and it doesn't really bother me as much anymore. I went with a warranty replacement to be safe anyways, and it does seem to be a little better than my previous phone. Still a much weaker touch response than my S4 ever had, but i will say that my gf's iPhone 5 is much worse with her thicker glass protector (i bought a really thin .2mm one, which has already spidered within a week xP)

Thanks for the response Ryan. I'll probably remove the glass protector as well then. I bought the one that Verizon offered which I think is a generic brand. It looks great on the phone but with this issue it's not worth it. Thanks again!

Just a quick update. I replaced my glass screen protector with this one from Spigen and it is noticeably better. As Ryan mentioned previously, still not perfect which I believe is something that LG needs to work on. The phone is not as responsive as it should be. The previous glass protector was too thick and this Spigen one makes a huge difference. I still occasionally have to tap twice but this at least makes me want to throw the phone less.

I use an Invisashield and I haven't had a single issue with touch responsiveness. I just got my phone a few days ago so maybe it's got something different. I don't know.