Hi dear
Just wonder do you know what is made the front glass of this device?
Do we really need the screen protector?
Is it gorilla glass?
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Glass?
anyone? information?
No screen protection, according to GSM Arena... But being that they didn't get the resolution correct in their specs (1920 x 1080 instead of 2560 x 1600), not sure if I would trust their info completely. Other sites are saying it uses Gorilla Glass 3.
http://www.handheldwar.com/samsung/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition-full-specifications/
Samsung also just purchased an additional 7.4% stake in Corning (maker of Gorilla Glass), so its a pretty safe bet to assume all premium Samsung mobile devices use Gorilla Glass.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-acquires-74-percent-share-gorilla-glass-maker-corning
That being said, I always use screen protectors even with Gorilla Glass, as it is scratch "resistant" not scratch proof. I have a few different protectors coming in this week. Going to test them all with the S Pen and will be sure to post my findings.
Thanks a lot in assume that your replay will b helpful to others as well
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Personally, I do not use a screen protector on a tablet and will not use one on this device. I do use one on all of my smartphones. For me, it is two drastically different use cases. My smartphone is in and out of pockets, in car holders, can be dropped easily, often used while walking, etc. For me, the tablet is much different. I am typically using the tablet while sitting down and when I'm done the case cover goes back over the screen and it sits. I just don't see the need like I do for a smartphone. I find that it really detracts from the experience on a tablet, especially with the S Pen.
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Personally, I do not use a screen protector on a tablet and will not use one on this device. I do use one on all of my smartphones. For me, it is two drastically different use cases. My smartphone is in and out of pockets, in car holders, can be dropped easily, often used while walking, etc. For me, the tablet is much different. I am typically using the tablet while sitting down and when I'm done the case cover goes back over the screen and it sits. I just don't see the need like I do for a smartphone. I find that it really detracts from the experience on a tablet, especially with the S Pen.
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Wait until you drop your tablet, yes, I've done it (on a Note 8.0), and the case and screen protector saved it.
I am sure that dropping it is a possibility. All I am saying is that my use of the tablet is much different than my use of a smartphone and therefore it is a risk I'm willing to take. I still use a case. I am not sure how you know that a screen protector had anything to do with saving the device when you dropped it. For me, the reduction in usability and screen clarity is greater than the risk of damage. Personal preference.
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I am not sure how you know that a screen protector had anything to do with saving the device when you dropped it.
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They're called eyes.
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They're called eyes.
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Please. The point I was making, assuming you are talking about the glass not breaking, was how would you know that it would have broken without the protector on? If you were talking about a scratch that is obviously something different.
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Please. The point I was making, assuming you are talking about the glass not breaking, was how would you know that it would have broken without the protector on? If you were talking about a scratch that is obviously something different.
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Since you weren't there, and haven't seen my Note, don't you think you should give me the benefit of the doubt? No matter, it's not worth arguing over, think what you want.
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Personally, I do not use a screen protector on a tablet and will not use one on this device. I do use one on all of my smartphones. For me, it is two drastically different use cases. My smartphone is in and out of pockets, in car holders, can be dropped easily, often used while walking, etc. For me, the tablet is much different. I am typically using the tablet while sitting down and when I'm done the case cover goes back over the screen and it sits. I just don't see the need like I do for a smartphone. I find that it really detracts from the experience on a tablet, especially with the S Pen.
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I understand your point, but my usage adds a certain twist to the equation... kids. I have 3 (soon to be 4) under the age of 6. They do occasionally get a hold of the tablet, and the protectors are well worth it.
The screen protector I used on my Note 8 didn't inhibit the S Pen at all, and I'm hoping the ones that should be here this week will work just as well.
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i prefer not having a protector on mine also, but they do offer some advantages.
one is that they don't show smudges as much (at least the anti glare don't).
another, is that if you do crack your screen you won't have to worry about shards.
and third is (obviously) scratches.
given that these are pen input devices, getting a grain of sand or other hard material stuck on the tip is easier than you'd think. there are quite a few people scratching their notes (all variants) just from penning and not realizing the nibs have been contaminated.
i may end up getting a protector later b/c once you see a scratch you can't unsee it, lol.
The screen protector saved my phone... and my wallet.
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Please. The point I was making, assuming you are talking about the glass not breaking, was how would you know that it would have broken without the protector on? If you were talking about a scratch that is obviously something different.
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A friend of mine broke her Galaxy S3. It had a screen/scratch protector on it. The guys at the local mobile store I got the phone repaired at, told me that the protector held together the shattered pieces of glass and also prevented that glass from damaging the LCD underneath. It helped them save the LCD underneath and made the whole process of putting a new glass much simpler.
Cost me only a 1000 rupees, which is about $16.
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hi all
i've preordered a desire, it's my third htc device but the first device with capacitive display.
does anybody have experience with a capacitive display and invisible shield?
is this going to bite each other? maybe it's a stupid question, but i want to protect my brand new phone..
thank for replies!
I had Invisible Shield on my Hero, and it's useless. You won't get scratches on your screen, unless you try to make scratches.
I've tried this product on two phones - one capacitive multitouch - the other a bb bold. A waste of time and money for both. You'll be peeling it all off in a number of weeks as the edges get frayed and any speck of dust you trapped when 'installing' will drive you nuts!
Just stick with the phone - you'll be fine.
Yes is a waste of money and time. I have it on my HD and the stylus constantly get stuck cos is the shield is too soft... Don’t bother.
The desire will have a teflon layer on the screen. It makes sure you dont get fingerprints on your screen. If you put a screenprotector on it you will have fingerprints on your screen again. So I think it's even worse to put a screen protector on your screen.
Wow everyone is against the protective layer. I have had it on my Hero since minute one, for 5 months now, and until now you can't tell it's there. I also use the phone and play with it constantly.
I'm sure we all hate to see the screen get scratched right? so it's better safe than sorry, in my opinion. You just need to be extra careful when installing it to eliminate any apparent dust getting trapped.
I would also recommend buying and extra one for the long run.
thanks for all replies.
hmm.. i love my invisible shield on the diamond. it's no as slippery as the plastic back cover and if i write with the stylus it helps to. also i can put the desire on my car's dashboard and it's not slipping away (for navigation).
i think i'll buy a shield. if it's not good, i have removed it within a blink of an eye and my desire costs very little, so i can absorb this 30 $
So four 'no's and a maybe has translated into a yes??
So you either work for a certain protective screen supplier (as you specifically mentioned a brand) and are after cheap advertising.
Or you had made up your mind irrespective of people's time and opinion - which is just plain rude.
Agree with the others. It's a waste of money.
I had a shield on my Diamond, and I think it was needed on that one, but on my Hero it is absolutely not needed.
I've had my Hero for almost 8 months, and not a scratch. I've dropped it on the ground several times, but the screen remains as shiney as the day I got it.
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So four 'no's and a maybe has translated into a yes??
So you either work for a certain protective screen supplier (as you specifically mentioned a brand) and are after cheap advertising.
Or you had made up your mind irrespective of people's time and opinion - which is just plain rude.
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me? oh.. come on! i just want to know how other people think about this.
and a scratch-proof display is just a fairy-tale!! i think you work for a display company with this (really) scratch-proof display..
no way, buddy, really
edit: anyway, not every screen protector is equal to another and my first question was, if a protector stops the electrical field of the touchpanel... that's it..
I have a a Zagg one (same product) on my Zune HD. No isses here at all. Also put it on a Omnia HD this was a bit more problematic as it was my first time and the edges did fray but my Zune HD looks good as new .
Guys just watch this video to the end and I'm sure ALL of you will use the invisible shield.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHhT1jalJg0&NR=1
At least with it on the screen you can confidently clean it when it gets to that.
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Guys just watch this video to the end and I'm sure ALL of you will use the invisible shield.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHhT1jalJg0&NR=1
At least with it on the screen you can confidently clean it when it gets to that.
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That video just tells me that the guy needs to wash his hands!
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That video just tells me that the guy needs to wash his hands!
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yes, my thoughts exactly
He is sitting at a dinner table that has clearly just had dinner eaten from it and there is lot' of evidence that the food was sticky finger type stuff in fairness to the poor fella!
I will use a screen protector but defo not paying $30. When I got my G1 I used a razor blade to cut the little pull tab thing off the transit screen protector and left it in place until 2 weeks ago. 17 months! I still have the other one that came in the box! anyone want to buy it?
I have had DHD for a while now and I cant stop wondering about this. Now that my cheap screen protector is getting messed up and I know it is a pain in the ass for me to replace it properly on my own. So I thought if it had Gorrila Glass then I would just take the film off and be done with it.
After some googling, GSMarena says it does.
Corning says it does.
Some youtube videos likely proved it does.
But, HTC says it doesn't.
Some users had scratched screen so it probably doesn't
Well, I don't know who to believe, anyone has real info on this? Or know of any drop test videos of DHD? I can't find any on tube.
I don't think so I got some light scratches on it, but it has a god damn good screen. I dropped it a few times and it hasn't broken once, sometimes it even hitted directly the ground with the screen.
I only got 1 small very small scratch in the corner but that one isn't deep or something...
Yes, Gorilla Glass
Kellicros said:
I have had DHD for a while now and I cant stop wondering about this. Now that my cheap screen protector is getting messed up and I know it is a pain in the ass for me to replace it properly on my own. So I thought if it had Gorrila Glass then I would just take the film off and be done with it.
After some googling, GSMarena says it does.
Corning says it does.
Some youtube videos likely proved it does.
But, HTC says it doesn't.
Some users had scratched screen so it probably doesn't
Well, I don't know who to believe, anyone has real info on this? Or know of any drop test videos of DHD? I can't find any on tube.
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http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/htc
Gorilla glass does not mean the screen will not get scratched. Gorilla glass is a material which is hard to break and when it gets broken it does not split into pieces. So it does not harm your phone's board. Btw I believe in Corning cuz the answers from HTC mail service is funny all the time (they dont have information about everything but they should reply all the Qs
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I had a Otterbox commuter case for xmas which comes with a little tool (small bit of plastic) to aid installation of the screen cover/protector.
I took my old case of, took off the old screen cover/protector and the screen underneath of the actual phone screen was still in ABSOLUTELY PERFECT condition....not even a spec of dust on it.
Best investment ever is a screen protector....my old protector was in a hell of a state.....imagine if i didn't have it on.....phone screen would be scratched and marked to hell and back.
On went the new screen cover/protector then the awesome Otterbox case.
Get on Ebay and buy a screen protector...only £1-£2 each deslivered..maximum.
Pi$$ easy to fit...bubbles easy to get out with supplied tool or a credit card.
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Gorilla glass should protect the phone pretty well, but I would use a screen protector just in case.
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I'm using screen protector too. I have a decade of habit of dropping phones from all kinda places. N95 was chewed by my dog.
Anyway, screen protector is pain in the *## to install but worth it - but depends of a person.
Because they are so cheap I buy them in pairs usually and first try is almost every time a bust. I need them changing about every two months.
I recently got the Tech Armor Nexus 7 (2nd GENERATION) Tablet Premium High Definition (HD) Clear Screen Protector in the mail and immediately applied the screen protector to my screen only to find myself having severe sensitivity problems. I am forced to press the screen with force and that also sometimes does not work. This makes the screen unresponsive to touch and makes the Nexus 7 a hassle to use. The moment i took off the protector, i recovered normal touch capabilities.
I SERIOUSLY RECOMMEND YOU DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THIS LIKE ME! :crying:
EDIT: Took a video of my nexus 7 with the tech armor screen protector
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To save time and to give a quick response, I rooted my nexus 7 and flashed the new update to my tablet. I realized that it was not the screen protector but it was a software issue with the tablet itself. I wish to apologize for making such a rash remark about the screen protector by jumping to conclusions by blaming it.
Screen protectors are a thing of the past anyway. I've gone 8 months with my Nexus 4 without a screen protector and it doesn't have even the slightest scratch. Even my 2012 Nexus 7 lasted a full year and was flawless when I sold it. I don't baby my devices either. A case I can understand for drop protection, but screen protectors are just silly these days.
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Screen protectors are a thing of the past anyway. I've gone 8 months with my Nexus 4 without a screen protector and it doesn't have even the slightest scratch. Even my 2012 Nexus 7 lasted a full year and was flawless when I sold it. I don't baby my devices either. A case I can understand for drop protection, but screen protectors are just silly these days.
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What a silly response. just because YOU didn't get them doesn't mean others won't. read the threads on the gs4 forum, with its "gorilla glass" of people who have scratches after one day.
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This device also doesn't have gorilla Glass it has scratch resistant glass which is a step down. I for one would rather be safe than sorry and I can't recommend bestskinsever enough. No touch sensitivity problems with bse screen protectors :thumbup:.
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I never use screen protectors either... Except for this device.
After a few days of just using it at home, I noted some micro scratches forming. Got a screen protector that same day. So yeah, I don't think a screen protector is silly at all.
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I don't see the reason for screen protectors unless they actually protect your screen from things like a brick being dropped on the scree. I've owned a rooted & ROM's NookColor, Nexus 7 OG, Nexus 7 '13 and 5 smart phones including my current Samsung S4. I have not used a screen "protector" on any of them and haven't gotten a scratch on a single one of them. Now granted I put my tablets/phones in a case when not in use and I don't when finished using them sling them toward the couch like a Frisbee but I use my devices probably as hard if not harder than most.
Screen "protectors" to me just seem like a way for companies to put your money in their wallet.
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I don't see the reason for screen protectors unless they actually protect your screen from things like a brick being dropped on the scree. I've owned a rooted & ROM's NookColor, Nexus 7 OG, Nexus 7 '13 and 5 smart phones including my current Samsung S4. I have not used a screen "protector" on any of them and haven't gotten a scratch on a single one of them. Now granted I put my tablets/phones in a case when not in use and I don't when finished using them sling them toward the couch like a Frisbee but I use my devices probably as hard if not harder than most.
Screen "protectors" to me just seem like a way for companies to put your money in their wallet.
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For me Speigen ultra crystal are always good. No problems with responsiveness or messing up the look of the screen and then i know when im ready to sell my device there are no scratches anywhere. I'm glad you havent gotten any scratches, but its just too easy to get micro scratches not to spend a few dollars to make sure things stay nice.
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Screen "protectors" to me just seem like a way for companies to put your money in their wallet.
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Got it in one! Screen sticky-back-plastic is the 21st Century equivalent of snake oil.
And how do these 'companies' advertise? By posting to forums such as this one. So some little shill bleats he has a scratch and all the sheep follow his lead and cover a beautiful piece of kit with tacky-back-plastic.
If you're really a clutz get a full case.
I noticed my screens sensitivity declined when I installed my official Asus SP. I actually went through 2 cause one was dented the first time out of the box.
Both caused the issue BUT after a few hours it was back to normal. Might just have to set.
Wet apply is a big one that needs to set... typically 24 hours. Capacitive screens run off electrical signals from your body to detect touch. Needless-to-say, water and electric don't mix. Once it cures it will be use able.
Make note that the official Asus is a dry apply and it also affected touch sensitivity for a few hours. Applied at night and woke up good.
Also, this thread is not about whether you prefer a SP or not. I personally sell my devices off for Like New. I'm not going to risk a scratch ruining $50 in my pocket next year. Plus Matte screen protectors are fingerprint resistive and anti glare. They also have a great tactile "paper" feel that I prefer. No having to wipe it down every 5 min and I don't feel embarrassed handing it over to a coworker. Different Strokes.
Back to topic. Go
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Until screens are scratch PROOF (gorilla glass is scratch resistant) I will use a screen protector. The couple dollars they cost are worth at least the piece of mind knowing you don't have to worry about sand or something else causing a hairline scratch in your screen, especially since I usually sell my devices and screen condition is a major factor in resale value.
Anyways, back on topic, has anyone else got a TA protector and had the same experience? Other than the review on Amazon which is probably this same user, the others don't have this problem, just issue with installation or alignment. I've got one on my GS3 and haven't had any issues.
Installed Tech Armor SP yesterday
I got my tech Armor protectors yesterday. I haven't noticed any sensitivity problems. It is kind of "sticky", but that seems to be getting better with a little more use. Overall I'm happy with the Tech Armor screen protectors. I use a stylus pretty regularly so wanted something on the screen *just in case*. It's very clear, no rainbowing that I've noticed and fit wasn't an issue on mine. I used the "screen door" method and a can of air, it went on clean and clear.
If I notice any problems later, I'll update my post
I got my "snake oil" for a buck at dollar tree. Really happy with it, too. Hasn't affected my screen sensitivity in the least, and I was surprised to find out I prefer the matte finish it gives the screen. And no more micro scratches
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In my opinion, the only people who say screen protectors aren't needed are either
1- extremely rich, and just toss out their device if it gets a scratch
2- don't care how their devices look
3- not capable of putting one on properly, and just say they're not needed simply because they aren't capable of the install
Anyone with the intelligence of at least a 4th grade level knows that gorilla glass or "scratch resistant" glass can easily be scratched, even during light use while you're trying to be careful. Screen protectors are just an easy and cheap way to keep your devices looking pristine!
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In my opinion, the only people who say screen protectors aren't needed are either
1- extremely rich, and just toss out their device if it gets a scratch
2- don't care how their devices look
3- not capable of putting one on properly, and just say they're not needed simply because they aren't capable of the install
Anyone with the intelligence of at least a 4th grade level knows that gorilla glass or "scratch resistant" glass can easily be scratched, even during light use while you're trying to be careful. Screen protectors are just an easy and cheap way to keep your devices looking pristine!
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1) The entire device is $230 ($200 with a discount from online retailers). It's not exactly a Porsche. Anyone with a GF/wife knows that a single night out can easily equate to this amount.
2) I am more OCD than you can imagine. A noticeable scratch really would bother the hell out of me.
3) This is somewhat accurate. I'm terrible at installing them perfectly and in my past I've gone through upwards of $50 for screen protectors for a single device. After spending probably $100+ on screen protectors alone over the years, I'd rather just leave that money in the bank and buy a new device if I really feel that it gets scratched to the point that I can't bare to look at it. And you have to keep in mind that even with some screen scratches you could easily sell it for 70%+ of what the device is worth brand new, which would greatly offset the cost of a new one.
I have a tendency to throw my phone in my girlfriend's purse with keys etc. and lay it face down on wood, granite, and metal counters and tables. The silver bezel of the phone is scratched up like crazy and the back glass has a few big scratches too. But the screen is still flawless after 8 months.
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Anyone with the intelligence of at least a 4th grade level knows that gorilla glass or "scratch resistant" glass can easily be scratched, even during light use while you're trying to be careful.
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Let's keep it friendly!
I must say I wonder about the bona fides of any one so passionate for a cause. A purveyor of snake oil one wonders?
Well I still picked up a TA protector, it will arrive tomorrow and I will report back on how well it works. Assuming it doesn't actually cause sensitivity issuea, its still the best deal compared to what else is out there - $6 for 3 protectors that come with free lifetime replacements (that don't require you to send the old ones back).
And for the guy who said he's wasted $50+ trying to get protectors installed perfectly, go to a Best Buy or a mall and have them install it for you. You'll pay a little bit more but if they put it on wrong it comes out of their pocket. Plus if it ever gets scratched up you can take it back there and get a new one put on for free usually.
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I must say I wonder about the bona fides of any one so passionate for a cause. A purveyor of snake oil one wonders?
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How was that unfriendly? You mean to tell to tell me that there are adults with smartphones/tablets who think their screen is unscratchable?!? I don't think so. That makes me a believer of snake oils!!?? I think not. I just have common sense...
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...So some little shill bleats he has a scratch and all the sheep follow his lead...
...If you're really a clutz get a full case...
Let's keep it friendly!
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I lol'd. Practice what you preach, brother. I believe the first one in this thread calling people names was you
I also have historically not used a screen protector for most of the reasons listed here... Especially that, in my experience, I simply have never needed one. Usually keep my phones for close to a year, and have never ever had a noticeable scratch. But that doesn't mean I never saw the value in them for people that needed them. As soon as I realized that the screen on my shiny new n7fhd had a couple of slightly noticeable scratches(it's my real experience, regardless of if anyone feels the inexplicable need to call me a shill), I snagged one up.
It's kind of sad how something as mundane as whether a device needs a screen protector or not can get people at each other's throats.
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It's kind of sad how something as mundane as whether a device needs a screen protector or not can get people at each other's throats.
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What is sad is that Joe Public fails to recognize that opinion formers with their pay-masters agenda post to web sites.
Hi all,
So I bought a OP3 used from some dude online. Phone was in great condition when I saw it. Only had a light scratch on the screen. Noticeable, but nothing to cry about. I did wonder what the guy could have done to it (and why he removed the screen protector) since it is GG4 and is supposed to be the newest of the new, but whatever. Well, a few days ago, I had to put the phone away in a locker and it was stored along with other phones. I did not notice until a day later, but it has a whole bunch of little scratches on the screen now. Just wanted to ask you all if anyone has had similar issues. My Nexus 6p has never gotten a scratch and I have always had it without a screen protector. I also am always careful with my devices. Never been dropped either.
Thanks,
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I leave this here for you.
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Thanks but I kinda wanted real world experience. I have seen that video before. How am I supposed to know what strength a level 7 pick resembles. And even if I do my experience was glass on glass scratches which wouldnt make sense then.
I have noticed two little scratches on the screen just a few minutes ago, i ve used it at the beach during a vacation .. i m a bit disappointed for the screen resistance of this phone , i would ve never thought this was supposed to have scracthes so easely...
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I have noticed two little scratches on the screen just a few minutes ago, i ve used it at the beach during a vacation .. i m a bit disappointed for the screen resistance of this phone , i would ve never thought this was supposed to have scracthes so easely...
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Thanks for your comment. Exactly what I was thinking. The video above does not compare to real world usage.
Yes indeed, mines are even very noticeable with the screen on...this device actually has a very bad screen resistance
Ok first of all every phone with gorilla glass 4 will scratch identically. Tired of all this my phone is scratched my other phones never scratched in every XDA forum for a specific phone. EVERY PHONE WILL SCRATCH IN YOUR POCKET. Tiny particles of silica are inside the grit in your pockets which is much harder than glass and if you rub your phone in your pocket it will scratch, and this happens every day. Every phone I've had without a screen protector is eventually filled with micro scratches. My Galaxy S3, HTC M7, galaxy S4, LG G2, xperia Z2, galaxy S5, galaxy S6 all scratched slowly over time. Its normal, get a screen protector and you won't complain
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Ok first of all every phone with gorilla glass 4 will scratch identically. Tired of all this my phone is scratched my other phones never scratched in every XDA forum for a specific phone. EVERY PHONE WILL SCRATCH IN YOUR POCKET. Tiny particles of silica are inside the grit in your pockets which is much harder than glass and if you rub your phone in your pocket it will scratch, and this happens every day. Every phone I've had without a screen protector is eventually filled with micro scratches. My Galaxy S3, HTC M7, galaxy S4, LG G2, xperia Z2, galaxy S5, galaxy S6 all scratched slowly over time. Its normal, get a screen protector and you won't complain
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Uhhmm.. It's not really a complaint. I am just wondering why they are soo noticeable. I am looking at my 6p right now on direct light and at my OP3. I treat them both the same, wear the same clothes (not every day), put them in the same pocket all the time and never put anything else in that pocket but the phone. Both phones are not using cases. I see no noticeable scratches (to me) on the 6p. The oneplus 3's are very noticeable. If you are tired of the posts, then go complain to the people that make the videos of them scratching the phones with picks that do not mimic real world usage. I just posted to read what others thought. I mean the phone is awesome and everything and scratches aren't gonna hurt performance but I was literally in awe because I have never scratched a phone as noticeable as the OP3 has gotten.
Sand will easily scratch any glass even gorilla glass, regardless of your phone.
I didn't like the screen protector that came with my OP3 because it muted the sharpness of the screen. I tried a couple tempered glass protectors off Amazon and they didn't adhere truly to 100% of the screen...so I threw both out. I was about to settle for another screen protector, however I decided I just liked the sharpness of the display with nothing on it, along with the natural oleophobic feel of the glass. I decided that since the phone was only 399 that I'd wing it and see how long I could get out of using it the way I truly enjoyed it before I detected the slightest of any flaw on the screen. It's been approx. two months now and I love using the display with no protection, and still don't have a single scratch. I regularly have the phone in my pocket, along with constantly transferring it between my car cradle and my house/office. I regularly clean the phone every evening....wipe down the back with a dab of alcohol on a tissue, and a dab of water to wipe down screen. Never use anything other than water on the screen because it will deteriorate the oleophobic coating. So far so good.
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Uhhmm.. It's not really a complaint. I am just wondering why they are soo noticeable. I am looking at my 6p right now on direct light and at my OP3. I treat them both the same, wear the same clothes (not every day), put them in the same pocket all the time and never put anything else in that pocket but the phone. Both phones are not using cases. I see no noticeable scratches (to me) on the 6p. The oneplus 3's are very noticeable. If you are tired of the posts, then go complain to the people that make the videos of them scratching the phones with picks that do not mimic real world usage. I just posted to read what others thought. I mean the phone is awesome and everything and scratches aren't gonna hurt performance but I was literally in awe because I have never scratched a phone as noticeable as the OP3 has gotten.
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Then you're doing something wrong with the OP3. The pick test is a real world test. If 2 screens require a level 6 on the mobs scale then it will require something of that hardness or higher to scratch your screen. The OP3 and 6P have the same exact screen hardness, they will scratch exactly the same. You or someone probably moved your phone while it was flat on its screen and it went over some grit or something which scratched the screen. It happens and it sucks.
crzykiller said:
Then you're doing something wrong with the OP3. The pick test is a real world test. If 2 screens require a level 6 on the mobs scale then it will require something of that hardness or higher to scratch your screen. The OP3 and 6P have the same exact screen hardness, they will scratch exactly the same. You or someone probably moved your phone while it was flat on its screen and it went over some grit or something which scratched the screen. It happens and it sucks.
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Yeah you are probably right. It sucks that it happened so quick though. What I don't like about the pick test is that they should at least show what they mean by level 6 or give a little more explanation. In any case, this was not being made to rant on the phone quality because it is a very well made phone for the price. It exceeded my expectations coming from previous OP devices. I am perfectly fine with the phone. I ordered a TG protector. Hopefully it can hide some of the scratches.
jorgis1 said:
Yeah you are probably right. It sucks that it happened so quick though. What I don't like about the pick test is that they should at least show what they mean by level 6 or give a little more explanation. In any case, this was not being made to rant on the phone quality because it is a very well made phone for the price. It exceeded my expectations coming from previous OP devices. I am perfectly fine with the phone. I ordered a TG protector. Hopefully it can hide some of the scratches.
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Yeah it sucks, my boss slid my 2 day old bare galaxy S6 on a smooth surface and the rear glass was scratched all around the sides.
crzykiller said:
Yeah it sucks, my boss slid my 2 day old bare galaxy S6 on a smooth surface and the rear glass was scratched all around the sides.
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Is he still alive?
In Google's launch day blog post, it stated that both the front display and the back glass are constructed from 2.5D Corning® Gorilla® Glass 4.
There seems to be a large number of people who have received their devices complaining that the back glass scratches surprisingly easily, and a number of reviews (both written and video) cite the same, such as shown in JerryRigEverything's video review at 1:44.
This has me concerned that we're not actually getting Gorilla Glass 4 for the back glass, or if we are, it may be a defective batch. I'll be the first to proclaim my lack of knowledge on the stuff, but shouldn't the actual hardness, i.e. resistance to scratching, be the same regardless of shape, thickness, etc? I could easily understand a difference in brittleness if it is thinner, for example, but these reports have me concerned.
Any thoughts?
well i case my phones right away and have never had any scratches on the back of my phones .... jump to today i too my pixel out of my otterbox defender case to return the case for a slightly thinner case and guess what the back glass has a scratch in it that wasn't there before it went in, i checked the inside of the case and couldnt find anything that would have done that. not a big deal since its going back in a case but im a little ocd so it does bother me a bit that its there
Yeah I had heard the same thing in some reviews.
I can tell you first hand that it does seem to mark easily. I have two fine hairline scratches on the back on min. I assume from keys in my pocket.
I have been using it without a case because I can't seem to find one I like. They all seem too bulky.
My front glass also has a tiny mark on it, from a key I assume. My Note 7 had the same thing within days as well. First time in the last several phones that have gotten scratches in the glass. I either have a really hard and sharp new key or the properties of the glass has changed. I know that impact resistant does not mean scratch resistant. Take a look at the Moto Z force to find that out! For what it is worth I do not think you are alone.
I understand that scratch-resistant ≠ scratch-proof, but for those who prefer to carry a phone naked (I'm talking about the phone!) it would be a pretty big letdown to find out Google didn't provide the product as it advertised it, whether it be failure on part of someone responsible for final production spec letting the marketing group know if there were a change in the glass, an issue of Corning sending the wrong glass, a defective production run, etc.
I suppose my concern is that if there is, as there appears to be, some legitimate issue, they 'fix' it with later production runs and ship the phone with glass to spec going forward, with my only recourse being to deal with it or maybe have them replace it with what would likely be a refurbished phone, either event seriously deteriorating the phone's residual value down the road should I choose to sell it.
Just putting it out there, I have Google Clear cased my phone from new, and I a few small marks now. Assume it's bits caught in the case.
jp712 said:
Yeah I had heard the same thing in some reviews.
I can tell you first hand that it does seem to mark easily. I have two fine hairline scratches on the back on min. I assume from keys in my pocket.
I have been using it without a case because I can't seem to find one I like. They all seem too bulky.
My front glass also has a tiny mark on it, from a key I assume. My Note 7 had the same thing within days as well. First time in the last several phones that have gotten scratches in the glass. I either have a really hard and sharp new key or the properties of the glass has changed. I know that impact resistant does not mean scratch resistant. Take a look at the Moto Z force to find that out! For what it is worth I do not think you are alone.
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I cringed twice while reading this. I too carry my phone in my left pocket, which is exclusive. I don't even stick my hand into the pocket if my hand is dirty. I also don't wipe off the screen on my shirt. Sand is a killer!
Also on that note higher number Corning Gorilla glass doesn't necessarily mean it's "better" more resistant..
jeremy8000 said:
I understand that scratch-resistant ≠ scratch-proof, but for those who prefer to carry a phone naked (I'm talking about the phone!) it would be a pretty big letdown to find out Google didn't provide the product as it advertised it, whether it be failure on part of someone responsible for final production spec letting the marketing group know if there were a change in the glass, an issue of Corning sending the wrong glass, a defective production run, etc.
I suppose my concern is that if there is, as there appears to be, some legitimate issue, they 'fix' it with later production runs and ship the phone with glass to spec going forward, with my only recourse being to deal with it or maybe have them replace it with what would likely be a refurbished phone, either event seriously deteriorating the phone's residual value down the road should I choose to sell it.
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I completely agree with you. I had hoped to carry the phone without a case since it was't as slippery as the all glass Samsung.
I usually keep it in its own pocket but not a particular one, its a product of having your hands full put the keys in the same pocket long enough to walk to the door. I try to keep it separate, but screw it up from time to time. Like with gym shorts, does it go with the magnetic money clip or the keys? Keys don't go with the magnet bc I don't want to kill the battery in my truck remote.. Talk about 1st world problems
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I completely agree with you. I had hoped to carry the phone without a case since it was't as slippery as the all glass Samsung.
I usually keep it in its own pocket but not a particular one, its a product of having your hands full put the keys in the same pocket long enough to walk to the door. I try to keep it separate, but screw it up from time to time. Like with gym shorts, does it go with the magnetic money clip or the keys? Keys don't go with the magnet bc I don't want to kill the battery in my truck remote.. Talk about 1st world problems
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I don't think magnets mess with batteries but if that were true the magnet would mess with your phone's battery plus its internal components