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[Q] g2 or g2x?

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Have you ever given Swype a whirl? I wasn't a fan of virtual keyboards either until I started using Swype. It came stock with my G2, would it come with the G2X too?
I have a G2 and love it, but I wish it didn't come with the keyboard, it adds a lot of bulk. If you could stand it, I'd say wait.

G2x is dual core, therefore slightly more future proof than the g2. If those are your only choices and you can deal without a hardware keyboard, go g2x. But you really need to play with both.
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Nospin said:
G2x is dual core, therefore slightly more future proof than the g2. If those are your only choices and you can deal without a hardware keyboard, go g2x. But you really need to play with both.
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Dual core gives a bit of a performance boost. But the G2X is an LG phone, and therefore probably isn't going to see a lot of developer support. At least not anywhere on the order of HTC devices. Developer support and up-to-date ROMs is better future proofing then just a slightly faster CPU, IMO. LG phones are also pretty consistently underwhelming. Their phones are just not that good. If not for the dual network support of the G2X, I'd say G2 all the way.

i do know that g2x does come with swype preinstalled.
could i try out a g2, and if i dont like it, go to a g2x? and vice versa?

redpoint73 said:
Dual core gives a bit of a performance boost. But the G2X is an LG phone, and therefore probably isn't going to see a lot of developer support. At least not anywhere on the order of HTC devices. Developer support and up-to-date ROMs is better future proofing then just a slightly faster CPU, IMO. LG phones are also pretty consistently underwhelming. Their phones are just not that good. If not for the dual network support of the G2X, I'd say G2 all the way.
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LG was underwhelming because they were mainly in the budget game before. Also, their software skills are at the script kiddie level. Unless you REALLY need a keyboard then I would say G2X or Optimus 3D. That extra screen real estate makes more of a difference than you would think.
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meh, i dont care about screen real estate either. besides, lgs skin is going to be taken off, g2x is mostly stock, besides the obvious bloatware planted by tmobile.

if you have plans to root or any of that good stuff I say go for the LG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z59oQcIgF94&feature=player_embedded
actually based off this video the G2x will NOT run stock android, as you can see at 1:40 it has samsungs touch UI on it... but earlier in the video you will also notice that the notification bars are changing.... for example look at :24 and then 1:03.... i honestly have no idea what it all means

G2X looks hella ugly. My vote goes to the G2.
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Kevin001111 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z59oQcIgF94&feature=player_embedded
actually based off this video the G2x will NOT run stock android, as you can see at 1:40 it has samsungs touch UI on it... but earlier in the video you will also notice that the notification bars are changing.... for example look at :24 and then 1:03.... i honestly have no idea what it all means
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i dunno about that, but according to this video it is running stock. which the G series is known for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXBSu_1jUkg&feature=channel_video_title
Anyways i'd definitly go with the g2x or one of the upcomming 3d phones vs getting a G2 right now which i currently have. i also came from a G1 and im tellin ya, the keyboards not that important anymore. sometimes i feel slower flipping it and actually typing it then just a few taps or swipes, i dont have much to say while texting. and i dont email much from it. with 4" screen im sure the screens accuracy would do justice. The hardware should more than make up for most of what dev's usually work on. I already feel that way about the g2. In the G1 it's exciting because it can get so much improvement, you feel like your actually turning a piece of **** into a chocolate bar (just a metaphor i love the G1), while the G2 you already feel like your just turning your chocolate bar into a different brand, or your adding nuts. So why not just buy the richest chocolate it has the potential to taste the best. Just my 2 cents, you might think totally different or use your phone different.

I like my G2 but If I were buying now I'd probably get the G2X.
The G2 keyboard isn't that great (compared to the G1 keyboard anyways), thanks to that and the awesomeness of Swype I rarely use the physical keyboard.
Dual Core will give the G2X more life, it will still perform well 2 years from now on whatever version of Android is out then, the G2 may be getting pretty winded by this point.
It's true that right now LG phones haven't seen the developer support that HTC phones have, but I expect the newer, higher end Android phones will attract some attention and HTC's increasingly more restrictive security measures will curb developer interest there. Of course this is 90% speculation at this point.

Personally I am going to wait for htc to drop htc G3 or another android phone with a physical keyboard. I do not need any faster phone. Nor I play games. I just text a lot and browse webs.
I don't think saving few sec browsing apps and loading games worth 300 -400dollars so I am keeping the g2.
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eunkipark92 said:
Personally I am going to wait for htc to drop htc G3 or another android phone with a physical keyboard. I do not need any faster phone. Nor I play games. I just text a lot and browse webs.
I don't think saving few sec browsing apps and loading games worth 300 -400dollars so I am keeping the g2.
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There was roughly 2 years between the release of the G1 and the G2, if following the same schedule that doesn't see the "G3" before fall 2012, if the AT&T merger does complete (which I think is likely because we have the best government money can buy) it's extremely unlikely that there will be new TMO phones coming out after that.

TrueYears said:
if you have plans to root or any of that good stuff I say go for the LG
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And why is that?
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raitchison said:
There was roughly 2 years between the release of the G1 and the G2, if following the same schedule that doesn't see the "G3" before fall 2012, if the AT&T merger does complete (which I think is likely because we have the best government money can buy) it's extremely unlikely that there will be new TMO phones coming out after that.
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That makes no sense...why would they not have a follow up to a well liked phone? Not only do they have more customer but also the ability to offer more devices than any other carrier? Seems like good business to me
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Spastic909 said:
That makes no sense...why would they not have a follow up to a well liked phone? Not only do they have more customer but also the ability to offer more devices than any other carrier? Seems like good business to me
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T-Mobile likely won't exist anymore (assuming the merger goes through) and AT&T will be working hard to bring every TMO customer into the AT&T fold. They will have very little motivation to sell a successor to a uniquely T-Mobile phone.
While I do expect AT&T to have a better selection of Android phones than they have historically that isn't a tremendously difficult bar to exceed.
Right now there are 12 Android phones (not counting tablets, color variations or unreleased devices like the G2x or Sidekick) for T-Mobile and 6 available for AT&T, no way they will have 18 or anywhere close to that post merger, I'd expect a selection that's better than AT&Ts but not as good as TMO (maybe 10 or so at any given time).
The only hope that we as consumers have is that now that AT&T has lost iPhone exclusivity that AT&T will dramatically change it's stance towards Android and embrace it instead of offering a crappy selection of gimped phones (the Atrix gives me some hope, for all that it too is gimped)
Even if AT&T does offer a phone called the "G3" it will more than likely be a mediocre phone with a crappy keyboard (think backflip).
Maybe if we are lucky TMO will have already invested enough into the G3 before the merge completes that AT&T decides to release it, after they block application installation of course.

raitchison said:
T-Mobile likely won't exist anymore (assuming the merger goes through) and AT&T will be working hard to bring every TMO customer into the AT&T fold. They will have very little motivation to sell a successor to a uniquely T-Mobile phone.
While I do expect AT&T to have a better selection of Android phones than they have historically that isn't a tremendously difficult bar to exceed.
Right now there are 12 Android phones (not counting tablets, color variations or unreleased devices like the G2x or Sidekick) for T-Mobile and 6 available for AT&T, no way they will have 18 or anywhere close to that post merger, I'd expect a selection that's better than AT&Ts but not as good as TMO (maybe 10 or so at any given time).
The only hope that we as consumers have is that now that AT&T has lost iPhone exclusivity that AT&T will dramatically change it's stance towards Android and embrace it instead of offering a crappy selection of gimped phones (the Atrix gives me some hope, for all that it too is gimped)
Even if AT&T does offer a phone called the "G3" it will more than likely be a mediocre phone with a crappy keyboard (think backflip).
Maybe if we are lucky TMO will have already invested enough into the G3 before the merge completes that AT&T decides to release it, after they block application installation of course.
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I disagree on this outlook, I dont think AT&T would do that, it's just a really bad business move, why would you buy a business out if you are just trying to kill it, especially with verizon and sprint around. That is already the motive as a competitor. You buy the company because it has something valuable to you. The G series and mytouch is one of Tmobiles biggest branded phones and recieve lots of customers, im sure they would keep it that way. they'd probably just change the name of the phone.
and AT&T is not going to give up apple's iphone by choice. That would be a ridiculous move.

Bzerk1 said:
I disagree on this outlook, I dont think AT&T would do that, it's just a really bad business move, why would you buy a business out if you are just trying to kill it, especially with verizon and sprint around. That is already the motive as a competitor. You buy the company because it has something valuable to you. The G series and mytouch is one of Tmobiles biggest branded phones and recieve lots of customers, im sure they would keep it that way. they'd probably just change the name of the phone.
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AT&T has already said that the main reason they are buying TMO is so they can use the wireless spectrum TMO currently uses for 3G and "4G" for their LTE buildout. Sure the customers are nice and AT&T will indeed make some efforts to keep those customers (churn is expensive) but I'm sure that unifying the brand will be a higher priority.
The G series isn't really notable apart from the G1 being the first Android phone to market. As for the MyTouch "brand", that one has always been a head scratcher is to it's reason to exist. I'll be nothing short of amazed it it continues post merger. I would not be surprised to see existing MyTouch devices receive token rebranding immediately following the merger close to kill off the MyTouch brand quickly.
and AT&T is not going to give up apple's iphone by choice. That would be a ridiculous move.
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Never said they would dump the iPhone, what I meant was that hopefully they will feel less compelled to intentionally cripple their android offerings as they have done in the past.

Pardon my English, but HOLY FUDGE!

Came across this just now over at Engadget. I just felt my phone got really old real fast! The only thing that comforts me so far about it is that it's only released in Europe for now.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/22/lg-optimus-4x-hd-unveiled-quad-core-tegra-3-ice-cream-sandwich/
Benchmark here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/15/lg-tegra-3-phone-specification-leak-tegra3-quadcore/

*gasp*
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Yea I saw that too... so disappointing the way this phone gets treated. AT&T had minimal advertisment, where the Galaxy 2/Skyrocket is EVERYWHERE.
This phone almost feels DOA. Honestly I will be very shocked if AT&T ever releases ICS for the Nitro...

blaineball said:
Yea I saw that too... so disappointing the way this phone gets treated. AT&T had minimal advertisment, where the Galaxy 2/Skyrocket is EVERYWHERE.
This phone almost feels DOA. Honestly I will be very shocked if AT&T ever releases ICS for the Nitro...
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It just puts those of us who do own one in a more elite crowd.

SolusCado said:
It just puts those of us who do own one in a more elite crowd.
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Thats one way of lookin at it... we have a limited edition!

Guys, this is ridiculous. We are hearing about new LG phones with ICS, when their previous flagship is stuck with GB and no concrete plans for an upgrade. This is unacceptable, you just know they aren't actively doing **** to expedite the completion of ICS for the Nitro.
The Nitro is a half-baked product, but it could have been great had they released ICS early on. I blame both AT&T and LG for this failure. I think we need to motivate LG with some concerned emails, but I honestly don't even know if there are enough people in this forum to even make a difference.
I will never buy LG ever again unless the do something about this. Anyone with me?

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Guys, this is ridiculous. We are hearing about new LG phones with ICS, when their previous flagship is stuck with GB and no concrete plans for an upgrade. This is unacceptable, you just know they aren't actively doing **** to expedite the completion of ICS for the Nitro.
The Nitro is a half-baked product, but it could have been great had they released ICS early on. I blame both AT&T and LG for this failure. I think we need to motivate LG with some concerned emails, but I honestly don't even know if there are enough people in this forum to even make a difference.
I will never buy LG ever again unless the do something about this. Anyone with me?
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I agree... I have ALWAYS bought HTC, and decided on Nitro over Vivid because of HD screen. Everything I read about the Nitro was its great on paper, but it's LG. Dummy me still went with LG. Like Charlie Brown going to kick the football knowing damn good and well Lucy is going to pull it away.
LG will let this rot on the vine, I know this. If the dev community doesn't pick up this phone will be dead in 6 months... and I will be GONE, and will go back to HTC.

LG has said they will update the LG Optimus LTE to ICS in Q2 2012. We'll be getting ICS either directly or by porting it from the Optimus LTE. It is more than possible to run the Optimus LTE ROM on our phones.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/26/lg-announces-ics-upgrades-to-begin-in-q2-2012/

blaineball said:
I agree... I have ALWAYS bought HTC, and decided on Nitro over Vivid because of HD screen. Everything I read about the Nitro was its great on paper, but it's LG. Dummy me still went with LG. Like Charlie Brown going to kick the football knowing damn good and well Lucy is going to pull it away.
LG will let this rot on the vine, I know this. If the dev community doesn't pick up this phone will be dead in 6 months... and I will be GONE, and will go back to HTC.
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Wish I could say the same but I still have a good 22 months to go.

Easy does it now. I've got gripes just like everyone else, but our Nitro does NOT suck. Don't forget it's STILL one of the few 1280x720 HD screens out there and our dual-core 1.5GHz cpu is hardly a turd either.
This whole thing about how we could've waited just a little longer for the next big thing is ridiculous because not even 6 months ago the specs on our Nitro WAS the next big thing.

Crap, it has LG logo...
I'll pass.

It's just woefully slow, backed by LG, and full of an array of small problems. I guarantee the same exact phone shipped by Samsung or HTC would be much much better.

8mileroad said:
It's just woefully slow, backed by LG, and full of an array of small problems. I guarantee the same exact phone shipped by Samsung or HTC would be much much better.
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LOL, not quite true there. The only phone by HTC that has HD screen is the Rezound, and my coworker has it, and trust me, it lags even worse, expect in certain areas that I know for sure HTC makes it certain it runs smoothly (like the wake up screen). Samsung? Samsung doesn't even have an HD screen that competes with the pixel density of LG (not talking of resolutions here, since the note does have HD resolution but screen size is much bigger, thus reducing Pixel Density, and the Nexus runs on a crappy version of amoled, thus reducing energy footprint).
I posted those stories not with the intention of calling our phone crappy or that it will be obsolete in no time. I am sure that one way or another, we will get ICS, although it might not be months down the road. And I will never call this phone crappy, given that until now, about 3 months after it's release, there is yet to be a phone out there to match its power (besides the Nexus, which is a Giant search engine company's flagship phone) and once we get ICS, I am almost sure our phone will trump any other ones in its class.
Like kernelpanic said, we should get ICS somewhere in Q2 of this year, which is around the projected time that most new phones will be released carrying ICS in it. And if we are lucky, we might get either CM9 before that, or maybe a kind and great Dev to help us move further forward towards ICS with some interesting Roms or Kernels.
Speaking of CM9, did you all VOTE to get CM working on a port for our phone? If you haven't I say you should not be complaining cuz you are not doing your part to improve lol.

aquariuz23 said:
LOL, not quite true there. The only phone by HTC that has HD screen is the Rezound, and my coworker has it, and trust me, it lags even worse, expect in certain areas that I know for sure HTC makes it certain it runs smoothly (like the wake up screen). Samsung? Samsung doesn't even have an HD screen that competes with the pixel density of LG (not talking of resolutions here, since the note does have HD resolution but screen size is much bigger, thus reducing Pixel Density, and the Nexus runs on a crappy version of amoled, thus reducing energy footprint).
I posted those stories not with the intention of calling our phone crappy or that it will be obsolete in no time. I am sure that one way or another, we will get ICS, although it might not be months down the road. And I will never call this phone crappy, given that until now, about 3 months after it's release, there is yet to be a phone out there to match its power (besides the Nexus, which is a Giant search engine company's flagship phone) and once we get ICS, I am almost sure our phone will trump any other ones in its class.
Like kernelpanic said, we should get ICS somewhere in Q2 of this year, which is around the projected time that most new phones will be released carrying ICS in it. And if we are lucky, we might get either CM9 before that, or maybe a kind and great Dev to help us move further forward towards ICS with some interesting Roms or Kernels.
Speaking of CM9, did you all VOTE to get CM working on a port for our phone? If you haven't I say you should not be complaining cuz you are not doing your part to improve lol.
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I don't mean to bash the phone, it is what it is, and I'm the one who signed the contract, I'm just disappointed. It had potential but obviously, there's no denying it came up short. And two year contracts are the devil.

Quick post: Judge this for yourself (and i don't direct this solely to u 8mile hehe, i'm just saying to everyone)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/11504942...ts/5opZQ7UomCJ
If that does not scream unlock bootloader, I don't know what will

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Quick post: Judge this for yourself (and i don't direct this solely to u 8mile hehe, i'm just saying to everyone)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/11504942...ts/5opZQ7UomCJ
If that does not scream unlock bootloader, I don't know what will
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I saw that eearlier today. I'm glad a "real dev" has the phone and is working on it.
Haters gonna hate but hey, let them
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kernelpan1c said:
I saw that eearlier today. I'm glad a "real dev" has the phone and is working on it.
Haters gonna hate but hey, let them
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Hey, to me, you're as much a real dev as any other dev can be Despite your limitations, u gave us all hope with our phones hehe.

Def wont ne getting another LG but I can say I'm happy I opted for it when I did. Its the name of the game when you get a phone. New ones cone out that trump it in months. No bog deal really. I wish development teams could produce their own high quality devices to sell. Cyanogenmod making a phone would be sweet.

I dont think I ever said the phone sucked... it is LG that sucks. Their track record with phones is well established. I do love the screen, and LTE is faster than my home internet. It is a good phone, even better with Kernelpan1c rom's! I am just beginning to feel like this phone was nothing more than a stopgap to the Optimus 4x, and will soon be the neglicted middle child.
I also lay blame on AT&T who did NOTHING to promote this phone, nothing at all. Therefore sales will be down & 3rd party accessories will be minimal. The only saving grace may be Verizons version, at least they made commercials... although nothing like the Speilberg'esque Droid productions they put out regularly.
UPDATE - Just saw on AT&T the Nitro is now a $100 for new contracts. The Skyrocket is still $200!!! In 2 months it went from flagship to dead weight.

I bought the Nitro as an upgrade to my Samsung Infuse. I just wanted something different from Samsung. Yes Sammy screens are the best in my opinion and the Infuse is unbrickable. I've already bricked one Nitro. The HDMI output on the Nitro is so much better than my Infuse, thats a feature I use often. Developmet will come to this phone like it did to the Infuse and I'm thinking of getting my dev on for this phone if development slows down, but I'm new to that. The nitro seems to be LG's "middle child" like the samsung Infuse. Which is cool with me.

hox or lg nexus

hi a like to buy a hox but a know thet lg nexus is around by big quest is battery life am light user i just make a call (2-3 hours per day ) if a switch to 2g and turn of all network( wifi, gps etc.) and around 5 min in market and just check weather manually 1-2 time in day can the battery hold 2-
3 days and how much battery eat in standby mode with this setings. or just to wait for lg nexus sorry for bad english

I would wait for the final specifications of the LG Nexus to be announced...
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lol if the next Nexus is made by LG I won't even consider buying it.. there's something that just feels cheap about LG's devices, I don't know but I'll just avoid anything by that manufacturer outside of refrigerators and air conditioners.

Nex_1 said:
lol if the next Nexus is made by LG I won't even consider buying it.. there's something that just feels cheap about LG's devices, I don't know but I'll just avoid anything by that manufacturer outside of refrigerators and air conditioners.
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I don't know, from reviews of the Optimus G it sounds like they're really starting to turn around.
With stock Android, a more powerful SOC and more ram this is a no brainer - go for the Nexus.
I'm hoping to sell my HOX and put cash towards one myself if they aren't too expensive.

Michealtbh said:
I don't know, from reviews of the Optimus G it sounds like they're really starting to turn around.
With stock Android, a more powerful SOC and more ram this is a no brainer - go for the Nexus.
I'm hoping to sell my HOX and put cash towards one myself if they aren't too expensive.
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From my previous experience with LG (O3D) I would never go for a LG Nexus... They make good phones, but the commitment to the costumer is close to zero. Never buying LG again!
The O3D was an awsome phone, with tons of potencial that was completely wasted by LG. And the tech support is the worst I've ever experienced in any brand to date (Have had Nokia, HTC and LG).
So even if they made the best phone ever, you would know that if the slightest thing goes wrong with it, you are on your own...
P.S. At least here in Portugal (have no experience with costumer support in other countries)

But LG is not responsible for software support of LG nexus...Google is. They are just making the hardware which in this case after reading couple of reviews is pretty good.
Wait for the first reviews and make the decision. 5 more days it's not a long wait.
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Mouselik said:
From my previous experience with LG (O3D) I would never go for a LG Nexus... They make good phones, but the commitment to the costumer is close to zero. Never buying LG again!
The O3D was an awsome phone, with tons of potencial that was completely wasted by LG. And the tech support is the worst I've ever experienced in any brand to date (Have had Nokia, HTC and LG).
So even if they made the best phone ever, you would know that if the slightest thing goes wrong with it, you are on your own...
P.S. At least here in Portugal (have no experience with costumer support in other countries)
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It's a Nexus. If you buy it from the Play Store you'll be dealing with Google.

You best choice is to wait. At this point nothing about the next nexus is confirmed, once that happens you can make an informed decision.

[Q] Why isn't this phone taking off?

New to the whole android platform (addicted after buying nexus 7). I have a severely crippled AT&T iphone 4 (cracked screen, no wifi or gps). Looking between the s3/optimus g or nexus 4. This phone has the best specs on the market, possibly the best screen along with LTE and expandable memory. The nexus 4 section has almost 4 times as many posts as this. Why isn't this phone hyped up? People are still saying the s3 is a better phone than this. Is LG really that bad? I tested this phone out at best buy twice, it is awesome however the camera isn't all that amazing to me (will try again). I would like an unlocked boot-loader (who wouldn't) just for root access for a few of my apps and tethering... Otterbox already has a case for it I am ready to buy. However it seems this phone will be swept under the rug. I don't want to invest two years for a phone that has no support.
Am I the only one?

stigma.... Most at&t reps wouldn't have a clue if you walked into the store and asked what is the fastest phone you have... which runs Krait... What are MHL capable. sg3, pantech breeze, and Iphone, note, I those are the phones they keep selling.... It's gonna take some time.
LGOG Bam!

The previous user nailed it. If the s3 sells more, reps will push it even nor because it's a safe bet. It's why a lot of people have a hard time switching from iOS to Android. Sells people sell it and almost everyone has one.
It's hard to steer people in a new direction even I'd there is a better product sometimes. That's just capitalism for you. Although I wish this phone got more attention.. If it received half the affection the s3 gets, lg may listen to the petitions or we would have more devs working on the bootloader.
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Optimus G will be released in europe in 2013.
So nobody cares about this phone, in 2013 next generation of high-end-phones from samsung, htc,... will be released too. And then this one will be outdated directly at release...
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sturmtruppler said:
Optimus G will be released in europe in 2013.
So nobody cares about this phone, in 2013 next generation of high-end-phones from samsung, htc,... will be released too. And then this one will be outdated directly at release...
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I just went to at&t and the guy has never even heard of the phone. This is why this will fail

Why does it have to be popular. I like and that's all that matters.
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spacecasespiff said:
Why does it have to be popular. I like and that's all that matters.
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While I agree, if the phone is a big seller it will get more attention/support/updates/accessories.

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Why does it have to be popular. I like and that's all that matters.
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More popularity means more devs trying to crack the bootloader. It also means more petitions signed to get the bootloader unlocked. I'd say it's ask pretty important.
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Not everyone cares about it getting unlocked. I don't. Its a good phone without that. Yes it can be better but I know more people that don't care about rooting then I do that care. I think people are missing out on a great phone just because its locked down. I understand why a lot of people want it unlock but that will never choose my phone for me. It will be unlocked very soon. Its almost there now. I happy that it is but at the same time I don't care. Its the fastest phone I've ever owned whether it popular or not. But will more cases come out for it if it gets unlocked ? LG has to prove themselves first then the rest will come. Samsung was in the same boat for awhile, now look at them.
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I hate to sound like a spoil sport, but I've been down this road before with people wanting petitions for various reasons be it to unlock bout loaders, release ril or release certain drivers that would make Dev support better. Unfortunately it always fails. I hope the best for anybody that try's to promote development within the community, but my advice to anybody that Dev support is of highest importance is to either get a phone that is already well established within the community or get a nexus device. This is why I got a nexus device and I'm glad I did. Best move I ever made.
Once again Best of luck to anyone who promotes development in the community as that's what this is all about!

Y'all are right I work from AT&T and I see iPhone users return the S3 all the time simply because it's not the iPhone they recognize its capable of doing the same things but are not willing to adapt to the change... I've had the optimus and even when telling people it's better than the S3 they know about the S3 and rather take the sage route than try the cool phone I have... I will say however most of my co-workers are avid iPhone junkies and will reuse to believe anything is better than the iPhone... and their right from a usability stand point but from a functionality stand point android trumps every time... but it's all abt what people see on tv and hear abt from peers
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giant22000 said:
I hate to sound like a spoil sport, but I've been down this road before with people wanting petitions for various reasons be it to unlock bout loaders, release ril or release certain drivers that would make Dev support better. Unfortunately it always fails.
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Giant, I will refer you to the Amaze 4g forum, where after a barrage of inquiries and a petition, HTC finally released the WIFI / BT chipset drivers. MOST times it fails, but it can happen.
Now, to the question at hand. Not only is it correct that AT&T store folks by and large haven't a clue, but you'll find a good majority on this type of site treat anything put out by LG with extreme caution. Their support is miserable when it comes to software updates AND release of drivers etc... Many of us are hopeful, because of the N4 being an LG product on some level, that they'll wake up and smell the coffee, but I am not holding my breath.
It is a great handset, but I am a flash addict, and I've been down this road before. I still own a G2x that I've passed on to my daughter.

I have been debating whether to get the Nexus 4 16 gb ($359 CDN + $20 shipping + 5% tax = $400) or go with the Rogers Optimus G which is being offered $129 ($135 with tax) on a 3 year contract. That is a huge price difference.
The risk with choosing the Optimus G is that it never gets its bootloader unlocked and I'll always be stuck with an outdated, limited version of Android.
For this reason I've decided to go with the Nexus 4 even though the initial price is higher. If the Optimus G gets unlocked I can always sell the Nexus and recoup most of the expense. If the Optimus never gets unlocked, I'll be satisfied with my Nexus purchase and I'll even be able to sell it in a year when the next Nexus phone is released.

On the other hand: LTE+External SD

carrett said:
On the other hand: LTE+External SD
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I agree. Lack of LTE is what killed the N4 for me and pushed me to the LGOG. If the OG bootloader never gets unlocked and Google get their wits about them and releases an LTE N4 in the future, I'd be happy to switch.

What is your next phone?

Very frustrated with the all-too-frequent need to go into Android Auto and reset everything just to get mapping to work, and not having the phone dialer integration working, and so on... Not to mention this monitoring program running in the background that nobody seems to know for sure what it is doing, what it is sending and to where it might be sending things....
So, after initially being happy with the phone, it has turned sour, and I'm looking to move to something lese, but not ready to pay a small fortune for it. What are you all considering for your next phone purchase? Probably not Huawei/Honor....

I loved the 6X, but my relationship with the 7X was sour out of the box. Maybe I was being too harsh but it really should have launched with oreo and came with USB type C. Aside from a hardware issue I had with my particular device, all the issues I had with the software have supposedly been fixed with the oreo beta. So I ordered it again and will have to definitely give it another shot because I did like the phone, it's hard to beat especially for $200. I know a lot of others will say the MI A1 is better, but not having a US based service center sucks. And I couldn't wait for Motorola to announce the G6 series. After my tenure with the 7X though, I plan to spend a little more and see what else Honor/Huawei has to offer. As long as they continue to sell the devices in the US on Amazon. With Best Buy dropping Huawei, who knows if they'll continue to make phones for the US market.

The Good..The Bad..The Ugly
Quite The Polarizing Device.. This 7x..
It looks so cool..
It was thought to be the "Next Big Thing" here at XDA.
But.. It never panned out that way.
It's compelled it's owners to throw caution to the wind.. root and brick there devices like there's no tomorrow..
with no clear cut way to recover it.
Quality Control is not the best.. either you get one that works perfectly (yeay! I did) or you get one with dimming
issues.. lagging issues.. touch registration issues.. heat issues etc.
But.. for a Stock device that had none of the issues mentioned, it's without question.. the best $199.00 your cellular
dollar can buy.
That is.. IF YOU DON'T MIND BEING MONITORED BY PARENT COMPANY HUAWEI.. (see pic)
Glad I Don't Bank On My Device.
The International Samsung Galaxy S10 will be my next device April of 2019
Until then my completely stock perfectly working Honor 7x will do just fine.

I'm brand new (just a few days) to the Mate SE. Love the phone... so far (will be checking for monitor app running soon). But would Huawei be that stupid? to be under suspicion by the authorities, and then have a snooping app obviously running and call it 'monitor'?
Possible I guess, but wow, hard to imagine. Was disappointed to read today that BB will no longer be carrying Huawei phones. I'm hoping to get the M5 tablet, maybe Amazon or last resort their usa website.
They sell phones all around the world, they are very popular. Is there ** any ** factual evidence of nefarious behavior?

Returned mine. Imonitor spyware ran continuously.
Also their support app requires access to your contacts and phone.
Don't think so Huawei.

First time experience with honor it's not so good as I'm expected. My next mob will be form one plus... ?

Huawei Won't Hurt You...
AsItLies said:
I'm brand new... Huawei under suspicion by the authorities, and have a snooping app running and call it 'monitor'? wow, BB will no longer be carrying Huawei phones.
Is there ** any ** factual evidence of nefarious behavior?
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Yes.
Settings > Developer Options > Running Services
Congratulations!
You've just stumbled upon your own personnal Spyware!
Ain't Life In 2018 Just Grand!
And... NO! of course Huawei is not doing any Nefarious with your personal info.. They just want to....eh.. well..?
Monitor your device's Tempeture !

Oh if only I was as smart as you!
Of course *monitor* means it's monitoring you! Of course!
I'm going to create an app to steal your personal data, and call it *steal-your-personal-data*!
Who would possibly guess?
Run this app: (specifically for data loss to China)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trustlook.antivirus
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Yes.
Settings > Developer Options > Running Services
Congratulations!
You've just stumbled upon your own personnal Spyware!
Ain't Life In 2018 Just Grand!
And... NO! of course Huawei is not doing any Nefarious with your personal info.. They just want to....eh.. well..?
Monitor your device's Tempeture !
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It's Not Your Fault...
AsItLies said:
Oh if only I was as smart as you!
I'm going to steal your personal data specifically for China
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Of Course You're Not As Smart As Me...
But That's Ok.
I'll help you just like I've helped so many others.

RaiderWill said:
Of Course You're Not As Smart As Me...
But That's Ok.
I'll help you just like I've helped so many others.
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Oh and yer so nice too! Wow, people must hang on your every word! Or maybe they just laugh and think 'loser'... I don't know...

Hang In There...
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Oh and yer so nice too! Wow, people must hang on your every word!...
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Why Yes...... They Do.
THANK YOU... For your Acknowledgement of that Fact.
I offer an Informative and Insightful view of all things Honor 7X.
Glad I've Captured your attention now as well !
Welcome To My World. :angel:

RaiderWill said:
Why Yes...... They Do.
THANK YOU... For your Acknowledgement of that Fact.
I offer an Informative and Insightful view of all things Honor 7X.
Glad I've Captured your attention now as well !
Welcome To My World. :angel:
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Oh you're very welcome! and yer about to capture my ignore button too! but I'm sure with your attitude, you've done that before also

I'll Monitor Your Progress...
It's Ok... I'm Respected Here...
And when you get more than 79 post... maybe a little closer to 790 posts.. and learn the ability to help people.. Instead Of Attack People...
And start to get Thanks for your support here on XDA...
Like I Have In More Than Half Of Every Post I've Written In The Last 5 Years... :angel:
Maybe just maybe.. we can continue this conversation that you want to have with "Me" Raiderwill.
I'll determine if you worthy of the privilege of continuing dialog from Raiderwill..
Nope..
I've already determined you'll NEVER be worthy of my Wisdom.. You will have to mature first...

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see ya!

Weighing in with my opinion of this device after almost a month of use...
I absolutely have no problem with it, honestly.
Do I have a bit of a buyer remorse? Somehow, after I bought the phone the note 5 pro was announced, the chipset in it definitely make me jealous. It doesn't help also there is currently some crazy development with the device from the get go.
But honestly, with the horrible availability of xiaomi devices, why should I bother really? The 5 pro probably will never make it to Egypt or an Arab country (I bought the honor from Saudi Arabia), we only have redmi 5 plus and the 64 giga version had a flash sale for an hour and then disappeared without a trace, **** this kind of crap really I'd rather pay a little more and not play any kind of one plus old days crappy games, life is too short.
Back to the honor, I picked it over the redmi 5 plus for 2 reasons other than the availability too, the fact that it's a real metal unibody not half and half and I'd take emui over miui any time of the day (just look at the horrendous bastardization of the recents screen), emui with a theme and a new launcher is almost stock to me, I'm not honestly bothered by anything in the software (I actually like the aggressive battery settings) except for the clear of notifications after unlocking, which is kinda really stupid.
Having project treble almost guaranteed also was a buying reason, it was obvious that honor was committed to bring treble to all their updated devices, I didn't know what is going to happen with xiaomi (back then nobody has seen community treble porting yet), it doesn't help also that the 625 is getting older and older (support wise this means it will get easier to be left in the dust)
I had no issues with the touch, it just seems that Huawei has some kind of different scrolling behavior, the battery has been nice, not legendary, just Nice, the performance has been fantastic so far, honestly I never feel like I'm performing something faster than the device can catch up except in the horrific camera app, which is definitely a software issue that I hope will be fixed in oreo. (That app is a pain to use). Captured photos are nice, a bit on the colder side but manual mode works well for me.
The biggest issue people witness with the phone is the potatoish gpu, I'm not that bothered because the games I have thrown at it worked well (if the slower ones were playable), emulation worked really well especially as I completed prince of persia rival swords completely on the phone, I couldn't ask for more.
If anybody reading this, looking to buy a new phone and has no access to the note 5 pro honestly get the honor 7x, there is currently no better choice I can think of, everybody is praising the Nokia 7 plus as the new budget King and it's almost ****ing 350 euro, I think people's view on what budget means became skewed with how we have 1000 USD phones in the market, 350 USD to 500 USD are NOT budget phones for God sake.
What I would wish for my next phone? Better gpu just for the sake for more future proofing (I plan to stick with a phone for 4 years) and USB C, everything else currently technology wise is not a big deal and nothing in flagships currently is making me jealous, the honor looks fantastically modern (I was a Moto g fanboy but man these leaks of Moto g6 look incredibly ugly with the 18:9 ratio plus a chin, the **** Motorola?). Last thing would be an AMOLED screen, these beautiful true deep blacks must come to budget devices one day.
My 2 cents.