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Coming back from 4.4

Is it possible to come back from a 4.4 rom to say 4.2 or 4.3 stock ROM? Can I ODIN back?
Currently not able to get MMS/Group messaging to work on the current 4.4 rom. Tried updating modem, adjusting settings...still no luck and I need it for work. Appreciate any help

Which phone do you have?

audit13 said:
Which phone do you have?
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AT&T S3

You can go 4.4 -> 4.3. However, you cant get the unrooted stock rom of 4.3, since Samsung/AT&T didn't ever release to the public (It was all OTA).
If you went 4.2->4.3 OTA, then your bootloader was upgraded. As you've seen on these forums, downgrading from 4.3 to 4.2/4.1 is a big no-no unless you want a brick.
Example:
4.2 ---(OTA UPGRADE)--> 4.3.
Rooted+cyanogen 4.3
cyanogen 4.3-> cyanogen 4.4
cyanogen 4.4-> cyanogen 4.3
cyanogen 4.3
( ^ what I have done)
NOTE: After I got the OTA, I have never tried going back to stock. You can use rooted roms that are CLOSE to stock. But I wouldn't suggest going stock because of knox and blah blah blah.

Were you ever on stock AT&T 4.3? If you were, your bootlaoder was probably updated so you can't install an older bootloader. You can load a older AT&T ROM using mobile Odin which does not flash a bootloader or modem.

I never went to 4.3...straight from 4.2 to 4.4

audit13 said:
Were you ever on stock AT&T 4.3? If you were, your bootlaoder was probably updated so you can't install an older bootloader. You can load a older AT&T ROM using mobile Odin which does not flash a bootloader or modem.
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So I could go back to a 4.2 TW rom if I was never on 4.3 OTA? (or any 4.3 for that matter)

blackwrx02 said:
So I could go back to a 4.2 TW rom if I was never on 4.3 OTA? (or any 4.3 for that matter)
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Yes, you just need to find a stock AT&T ROM that is flashable in Odin.

Flash stock rom - Keep Root & CWM

Hello, I am currently rooted and have CWM 6.0.4.3. installed. I'm on CM11 but want to go back to stock.. Is there an easy way to keep root and go back to stock. Want stock for a few functions that ROMS dont seem to be offering but can keep root and CWM ??
Thanks.

Which phone do you have? You could try flashing a pre-rooted stock ROM via Odin. Then use Odin to flash CWM.

Bt its better to firstly install ur stock rom and then again root it as it takes no longer than 5 mins

DeathNotice said:
Bt its better to firstly install ur stock rom and then again root it as it takes no longer than 5 mins
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Ok perfect, thats what I was looking for. Phone btw is S3 - d2att - SGH i747) Sounds good to install the stock rom and re-root.. I'm sure its here but I have searched everywhere to find a tutorial on this and I cannot find a straight answer.
Would you mind giving me the steps or pointing me to a thread that explains how to and has the files in need to download ?

audit13 said:
Which phone do you have? You could try flashing a pre-rooted stock ROM via Odin. Then use Odin to flash CWM.
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Do you know if there is a step by step on this somewhere ? I dont mind going back to complete stock.. I can just re-root and flash CWM after.
OR
Maybe you could just answer the bigger question : the reason I want to go back to stock is I need to use MHL/HDMI which CM11 doesnt support. I dont want to go back to stock, I would rather even go to another ROM that supports mhl/hdmi.. but if I have to go to stock, than so be it.?

Were you running the stock AT&T 4.3 ROM before you switched to CM11?

audit13 said:
Were you running the stock AT&T 4.3 ROM before you switched to CM11?
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Yes, I bought the phone new and was running stock, Canadian Rogers version and had changed to CM10, then to 11.

robberrobbie said:
Yes, I bought the phone new and was running stock, Canadian Rogers version and had changed to CM10, then to 11.
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Since you installed a custom recovery, that would have tripped the Knox counter which voids the warranty. It's not a problem if the phone is working properly.
Did you update to 4.3 or did it come with 4.3?
You may be better off installing a pre-rooted ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426

audit13 said:
Since you installed a custom recovery, that would have tripped the Knox counter which voids the warranty. It's not a problem if the phone is working properly.
Did you update to 4.3 or did it come with 4.3?
You may be better off installing a pre-rooted ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
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It was quite some time ago but I believe I was on ICS 4.0.. and switch to CM from there. Im not worried about the counter for warranty, that's expired on my unit anyways. I just want to be able to use MHL/HDMI function.. so if fine with flashing pre-rooted.. or stock.. or a different ROM that support MHL/HDMI. Can you recommend the easiest route ?

robberrobbie said:
It was quite some time ago but I believe I was on ICS 4.0.. and switch to CM from there. Im not worried about the counter for warranty, that's expired on my unit anyways. I just want to be able to use MHL/HDMI function.. so if fine with flashing pre-rooted.. or stock.. or a different ROM that support MHL/HDMI. Can you recommend the easiest route ?
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I asked about 4.3 because the 4.3 bootloader cannot be downloaded. Flashing via mobile Odin will not touch the bootloader or modem.
You could try a pre-rooted rom and then flash a custom recovery via Odin.
I use Philz Touch from here: http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/d2att

audit13 said:
I asked about 4.3 because the 4.3 bootloader cannot be downloaded. Flashing via mobile Odin will not touch the bootloader or modem.
You could try a pre-rooted rom and then flash a custom recovery via Odin.
I use Philz Touch from here: http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/d2att
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Ok thanks, I will do that. 1 thing I'm not quite sure of is the bootloader situation ? In the first tutorial there is a note : Flashing a prior bootloader can hard/soft brick your device. How do I know ?
I see the steps as:
Extract tar file you downloaded.
Use Odin, put phone into download mode [with phone off, hold vol. down + home + power ], connect to computer and open Odin.
once in odin click the PDA field and select the tar file
Leave Auto Reboot and F. Reset Time checked.
click start and when done let phone reboot.
If you just want a stock, rooted phone with no custom recovery, no plans to flash custom roms, etc. then you can stop HERE.
For my situation, is it just that easy ?

Before flashing, verify the version of your bootloader.

audit13 said:
Before flashing, verify the version of your bootloader.
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OK I have made an effort to go read and figure out how to find out what version of bootloader on my own.. But i cannot find ? Any chance you know... And could help?

You mentioned your have the i747 and Rogers. Do you have the AT&T s3 (i747) or Rogers/Bell/Telus s3 (i747m)?
What is the most recent stock ROM you had on your phone?

Hey. I got the i747m. As for what was the last stock ROM I had, can't say. I know when I bought the phone it was ICS and I had received and update to jellybean.. But them went to cm10. The tutorial I followed told me had me back everything up, which I did. Have it in a file somewhere on my comp, would that tell me ?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app

If you are flasjing back to stock you should flash back to the same baseband/bootloader that came stock on your phone.
I'm looking for a stock rooted zip for the sasktel i747m (MF1) that i can flash in CWM....I need to go back to stock to fix a data issue that ive encountered through flashing these new d2lte builds...
Does anyone know if a cwm flashable stock rooted rom exists for Sasktel's i747m with baseband MF1 ???I already have the Odin flashable stock rooted zip but don't have a laptop handy until tuesday....And im pretty sure i cant flash that zip in cwm recovery....
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Ariesdroid said:
If you are flasjing back to stock you should flash back to the same baseband/bootloader that came stock on your phone.
I'm looking for a stock rooted zip for the sasktel i747m (MF1) that i can flash in CWM....I need to go back to stock to fix a data issue that ive encountered through flashing these new d2lte builds...
Does anyone know if a cwm flashable stock rooted rom exists for Sasktel's i747m with baseband MF1 ???I already have the Odin flashable stock rooted zip but don't have a laptop handy until tuesday....And im pretty sure i cant flash that zip in cwm recovery....
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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I have not seen a stock mf1 ROM that can be flashed in CWM. You could use mobile Odin to flash back to stock and then flash Philz Touch via desktop Odin later.

OK, so back to my question.. If I have the i747M and bought the phone with ICS.. does this help.?

audit13 said:
You mentioned your have the i747 and Rogers. Do you have the AT&T s3 (i747) or Rogers/Bell/Telus s3 (i747m)?
What is the most recent stock ROM you had on your phone?
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Hey there Audit, Sorry to bother you again, I just dont know how to move forward from here and neeeeeed some help.
I have been reading for days and days have not found a straight answer for my issue and I dont want to just go ahead and start flashing when I dont know if its the right method ?
I dont know how to get back to stock from where I'm at, I dont know how to figure out what bootloader I have (you asked me)
I have found a couple links on XDA that I can follow, I'm just not sure if they apply to my situation ?
This is a pretty detailed response/tutorial, but I dont know if I can just go ahead with this or not ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2186967
This is also very detailed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
Any help would be greatly appreciated !

robberrobbie said:
OK, so back to my question.. If I have the i747M and bought the phone with ICS.. does this help.?
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If you are sure you have the Rogers i747m and you have never loaded a stock Rogers 4.3 ROM onto your phone, you could use desktop Odin to flash a pre-rooted 4.1.2 ROM from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426.
Flashing the pre-rooted 4.1.2 ROM will return the phone to completely stock, wipe out all installed apps and data, and you will have root. I do not recommend flashing the Rogers 4.3 pre-rooted ROM from the link.
Once you are able to boot into the phone and set things up, you can flash Philz Touch from Odin which will give you a custom recovery on a rooted stock 4.1.2 ROM.

[Q] cant flash 4.4.2 rom

I attempted to flash a 4.4.2 rom yesterday but it couldnt and it gave me a status 7 error. I looked it up and people said that you have to update clockworkmod. Well i tried to through terminal but it couldn't. It said something like could not find directory. So if anyone has any idea what I can do pleast tell me.
Using Galaxy s3 sgh-i747 on PA 3.99.1 ROM

Flash Philz Touch from here via Odin (use the tar version in PDA): http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/d2att

alright i did it through odin and it worked..now im gonna make a backup again and try flashing a rom. hope it works. thanks for the help

If you can't flash a KK ROM, you may need to update your bootloader. If you're not on a 4.3 bootloader, try and avoid it for now.

audit13 said:
If you can't flash a KK ROM, you may need to update your bootloader. If you're not on a 4.3 bootloader, try and avoid it for now.
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im on a 4.3 rom but if i get error status 7 again ill just restore my backup and avoid it...is there a 4.3 bootloader? Also i was about to wipe it but its asking me wipe data/factory reset or clean to install a new ROM. I suggest its the 2nd one but if i do it and it doesnt work can i still restore my backup?

orlans21 said:
im on a 4.3 rom but if i get error status 7 again ill just restore my backup and avoid it...is there a 4.3 bootloader? Also i was about to wipe it but its asking me wipe data/factory reset or clean to install a new ROM. I suggest its the 2nd one but if i do it and it doesnt work can i still restore my backup?
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There is a 4.3 bootloader that would be installed if you ran an OTA update to 4.3 or you manually installed the 4.3 bootloader.
Did you make your backup using Philz? If not, make the backup using Philz, then wipe and install.

audit13 said:
There is a 4.3 bootloader that would be installed if you ran an OTA update to 4.3 or you manually installed the 4.3 bootloader.
Did you make your backup using Philz? If not, make the backup using Philz, then wipe and install.
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I just made a backup on Philz and im not sure if i installed a 4.3 bootloader manually or OTA. Just to be clear im wiping to install ROM. so the 2nd option

orlans21 said:
I just made a backup on Philz and im not sure if i installed a 4.3 bootloader manually or OTA
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Doesn't really matter but it's good to know that you need to stay away from any attempts to downgrade the bootloader.

hahah why would i want to downgrade?

orlans21 said:
hahah why would i want to downgrade?
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I have seen posts where people bricked their phone when trying to return to a stock ROM using Odin.

well...im gonna have to put it back to a stock rom when i get a new phone and give this to my dad...i still have the 4.1 stock downloaded on my computer...i dont even remember how to put it back now lol. so i should try flashing a 4.4.2 rom? which rom do you prefer? i have carbon and liquidsmooth. i want halo like i do on PA and both have it i believe

orlans21 said:
well...im gonna have to put it back to a stock rom when i get a new phone and give this to my dad...i still have the 4.1 stock downloaded on my computer...i dont even remember how to put it back now lol
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You can't restore to a completely stock ROM not that you have a 4.3 bootloader. AT&T never released a full 4.3 stock ROM, only an update to 4.3 from an earlier stock ROM.
If you did not have a 4.3 bootloader, you could install any stock AT&T ROM such as 4.1.1. Being able to restore to stock 4.1.1 would also allow you to sim unlock your phone for free, if necessary.

audit13 said:
You can't restore to a completely stock ROM not that you have a 4.3 bootloader. AT&T never released a full 4.3 stock ROM, only an update to 4.3 from an earlier stock ROM.
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well im on rogers and its the same as att. i still have the original samsung touchwiz 4.1 rom just incase anything happens.

Your original post said you have an sgh-i747 which is an AT&T model. If you have a Rogers s3, it's an sgh-i747m.
Regardless of which model you have, you can't downgrade from any 4.3 bootloader which means you can't completely revert back to 4.1.1. The best you could do would be to run 4.1.1 on a 4.3 bootloader.

audit13 said:
Your original post said you have an sgh-i747 which is an AT&T model. If you have a Rogers s3, it's an sgh-i747m.
Regardless of which model you have, you can't downgrade from any 4.3 bootloader which means you can't completely revert back to 4.1.1. The best you could do would be to run 4.1.1 on a 4.3 bootloader.
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sorry i should have included the m lol. i wont worry about going back to 4.1 until the galaxy s5 comes out and im ready to give it to my dad. but back to focusing on this. im about to attempt to flash a 4.4.2 rom. either liquidsmooth or carbon. what do you like?

I prefer Validus version 4.3 because it includes Nova Launcher and it has a dark UI theme.

but thats 4.3. i wanna be on 4.4 and im installing nova and making it the way i had it before.
wait a second is it a 4.4 rom?

orlans21 said:
but thats 4.3. i wanna be on 4.4 and im installing nova and making it the way i had it before.
wait a second is it a 4.4 rom?
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It is a 4.4.2-based rom. The release is version 4.3.

hmm interesting...you do recommend it? what great features does it come with?

I like it because it's a very stripped-down ROM, has a dark UI, and is AOSP-based.
It's not radically different from other ROMs but has exactly what I want. I run the same ROM on a Nexus 4 and Motorola Atrix HD.

Downgrading from 4.4.x to 4.3

I was wondering if I may run into any problems by doing this.
I know that on an AT&T phone (i747), if you do that, you may lose your modem and needs to be reflashed (you get a null IMEI)
Is it the same on a SGH-T999? I was planning to flash this ROM:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=26636
Thanks

There is no 4.4.2 to downgrade from for the T999.
If you just have a 4.4.2 Rom, you don't need to do anything.
The firmware you linked is the latest available so you can flash it regardless of what you have now.

There is no 4.4.2 update for the T999 so yes you can flash it but it is not a ROM, it is firmware, please do not confuse these two they are very different!

Yeah... I'm afraid I am confused. What I did was to flash this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2690947
Isn't that a ROM?
However I would like to go back to 4.3, so I was just wondering if I could have any problems.
Sorry for the noob questions. I think it was clear to me, but I'm afraid it's not...
Thanks

Yes that is a rom, what you linked to in the first post is firmware which contains more than just the system and that is where you run into problems when downgrading

serio22 said:
Yes that is a rom, what you linked to in the first post is firmware which contains more than just the system and that is where you run into problems when downgrading
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So if I'm on 4.4.4 right now, is there a way to go back to 4.3?

_LEM_ said:
So if I'm on 4.4.4 right now, is there a way to go back to 4.3?
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Yes, flash the link you provided in the first post or flash a 4.3 rom.. Understand this, flashing a rom will not determine if you can downgrade or not, flashing firmware will. Since there is no 4.4 firmware for the T999 you can still flash the 4.3 firmware. If there was a 4.4 firmware and you took the OTA or updated via Odin then the only thing you could do is flash a 4.3 rom, firmware will not be an option
Edit: oh and btw I accidently pressed the thanks button so you got a free one

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Yes, flash the link you provided in the first post or flash a 4.3 rom.. Understand this, flashing a rom will not determine if you can downgrade or not, flashing firmware will. Since there is no 4.4 firmware for the T999 you can still flash the 4.3 firmware. If there was a 4.4 firmware and you took the OTA or updated via Odin then the only thing you could do is flash a 4.3 rom, firmware will not be an option
Edit: oh and btw I accidently pressed the thanks button so you got a free one
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Thanks. I understand better now. I have always been kind of confused between ROMs and firmwares.
PS: I triple thanked you.

Back to stock ROM Galaxy S3 i747

Hello people, first of all I dont know if im in the right place, Im new to this forum.
My situation is that I want to restore back to stock ROM my i747 with a custom rom running on android 4.4.4 with SlimROM, my Kernel is 3.4.104-cyanogenmod-g38a4e52
Baseband i747UCUEMJB
I passed through 4.3 stock ROM, then i flashed to Cyanogen 12 with android 5.1.1 and now Im with SlimKat with android 4.4.4. I want to go back to stock ROM, but I read about the locked bootloader on newer versions of android, I dont really know much about this thing, but I think that is if I want to go back to 4.1, im i right
The thing is, can I go back to 4.3 stock rom
Thank you.

The bootloader is not locked; however, it cannot be downgraded to anything before 4.3.
Look here for items related to the i747: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725839
Look here to flash stock 4.4.2 via Odin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ile-sgh-i747ucufne4v4-4-2attall-odin-t3305899

audit13 said:
The bootloader is not locked; however, it cannot be downgraded to anything before 4.3.
Look here for items related to the i747: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725839
Look here to flash stock 4.4.2 via Odin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ile-sgh-i747ucufne4v4-4-2attall-odin-t3305899
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If you want the Stock Odin MJB 4.3 file, and can't locate it, let me know and I'll upload it.

I don't need the files as I never had an i747 but I used to have the i747m.
The op may need them though.

audit13 said:
The bootloader is not locked; however, it cannot be downgraded to anything before 4.3.
Look here for items related to the i747: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725839
Look here to flash stock 4.4.2 via Odin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ile-sgh-i747ucufne4v4-4-2attall-odin-t3305899
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I don't need the files as the never had an i747 but I used to have the i747m.
The op may need them though.
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Quoted the wrong post, sorry about that.

No worries, we're all here to help each other.

Stock MJB 4.3 Odin File: (Google Drive Link)
I747UCUEMJB_2024954_REV04_user_low_ship.tar.md5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0lfMZeSyJnYZ1cwcmUtZmp4NU0/view?usp=drivesdk
Stock NE4 4.4.2 Odin Files: (Google Drive Links)
AP_I747UCUFNE4_1514807_REV04_user_low_ship.tar.md5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0lfMZeSyJnYQlRqY2VmUXh4Zk0/view?usp=drivesdk
BL_I747UCUFNE4_1514807_REV04_user_low_ship.tar.md5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0lfMZeSyJnYbGRMNGRLQnFlLTg/view?usp=drivesdk
CP_I747UCUFNE4_1514807_REV04_user_low_ship.tar.md5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0lfMZeSyJnYeE12YmltNmJWbG8/view?usp=drivesdk
CSC_16G_ATT_I747ATTFNE4_1514807_REV04_user_low_ship.tar.md5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0lfMZeSyJnYemotYmd3VXI4eGs/view?usp=drivesdk

audit13 said:
The bootloader is not locked; however, it cannot be downgraded to anything before 4.3.
Look here for items related to the i747: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725839
Look here to flash stock 4.4.2 via Odin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ile-sgh-i747ucufne4v4-4-2attall-odin-t3305899
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Chuckles5150 said:
Stock MJB 4.3 Odin File: (Google Drive Link)
I747UCUEMJB_2024954_REV04_user_low_ship.tar.md5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0lfMZeSyJnYZ1cwcmUtZmp4NU0/view?usp=drivesdk
Stock NE4 4.4.2 Odin Files: (Google Drive Links)
AP_I747UCUFNE4_1514807_REV04_user_low_ship.tar.md5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0lfMZeSyJnYQlRqY2VmUXh4Zk0/view?usp=drivesdk
BL_I747UCUFNE4_1514807_REV04_user_low_ship.tar.md5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0lfMZeSyJnYbGRMNGRLQnFlLTg/view?usp=drivesdk
CP_I747UCUFNE4_1514807_REV04_user_low_ship.tar.md5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0lfMZeSyJnYeE12YmltNmJWbG8/view?usp=drivesdk
CSC_16G_ATT_I747ATTFNE4_1514807_REV04_user_low_ship.tar.md5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0lfMZeSyJnYemotYmd3VXI4eGs/view?usp=drivesdk
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Thank you guys for your help, so Im good as soon as I flash to 4.3 stock, what about the recovery, is that made by Odin? Or should I first flash a specific one?
About the 4.4.2, is it better than the 4.3 and would I be able to go to 4.3 in case I get the NE4?
Again thank you for your answers.

Once you upgrade to the 4.4.2 bootloader, you cannot downgrade to the 4.3 bootloader.

Stock Recovery will be installed by Odin.