Is it possible to come back from a 4.4 rom to say 4.2 or 4.3 stock ROM? Can I ODIN back?
Currently not able to get MMS/Group messaging to work on the current 4.4 rom. Tried updating modem, adjusting settings...still no luck and I need it for work. Appreciate any help
Which phone do you have?
audit13 said:
Which phone do you have?
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AT&T S3
You can go 4.4 -> 4.3. However, you cant get the unrooted stock rom of 4.3, since Samsung/AT&T didn't ever release to the public (It was all OTA).
If you went 4.2->4.3 OTA, then your bootloader was upgraded. As you've seen on these forums, downgrading from 4.3 to 4.2/4.1 is a big no-no unless you want a brick.
Example:
4.2 ---(OTA UPGRADE)--> 4.3.
Rooted+cyanogen 4.3
cyanogen 4.3-> cyanogen 4.4
cyanogen 4.4-> cyanogen 4.3
cyanogen 4.3
( ^ what I have done)
NOTE: After I got the OTA, I have never tried going back to stock. You can use rooted roms that are CLOSE to stock. But I wouldn't suggest going stock because of knox and blah blah blah.
Were you ever on stock AT&T 4.3? If you were, your bootlaoder was probably updated so you can't install an older bootloader. You can load a older AT&T ROM using mobile Odin which does not flash a bootloader or modem.
I never went to 4.3...straight from 4.2 to 4.4
audit13 said:
Were you ever on stock AT&T 4.3? If you were, your bootlaoder was probably updated so you can't install an older bootloader. You can load a older AT&T ROM using mobile Odin which does not flash a bootloader or modem.
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So I could go back to a 4.2 TW rom if I was never on 4.3 OTA? (or any 4.3 for that matter)
blackwrx02 said:
So I could go back to a 4.2 TW rom if I was never on 4.3 OTA? (or any 4.3 for that matter)
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Yes, you just need to find a stock AT&T ROM that is flashable in Odin.
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Hey guys,
I'm trying to go back to a stock Touchwiz ROM from CyanogenMod 10.2. My only problem is, I can't Odin back to a stock from because the only Odin compatible file I have is 4.1.1 which my phone will no longer go to since my baseband was updated after trying a former 4.3 ROM.
Can anyone link me to a 4.3 ROM that I can flash in Odin? I'm asking because most of the ROM's I'm finding that are 4.3 require you to be on a TW ROM before flashing their ROM. Thanks.
n_alvarez2007 said:
Hey guys,
I'm trying to go back to a stock Touchwiz ROM from CyanogenMod 10.2. My only problem is, I can't Odin back to a stock from because the only Odin compatible file I have is 4.1.1 which my phone will no longer go to since my baseband was updated after trying a former 4.3 ROM.
Can anyone link me to a 4.3 ROM that I can flash in Odin? I'm asking because most of the ROM's I'm finding that are 4.3 require you to be on a TW ROM before flashing their ROM. Thanks.
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Go to http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/and put in your phone info and download the stock file.
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Go to http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/and put in your phone info and download the stock file.
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This link is useless for me as it does not have a 4.3 stock rom listed in their official firmwares. They have only up to 4.1.2 which I cannot Odin back to since my baseband was already updated.
n_alvarez2007 said:
This link is useless for me as it does not have a 4.3 stock rom listed in their official firmwares. They have only up to 4.1.2 which I cannot Odin back to since my baseband was already updated.
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Maybe there is no update for your carrier yet! A thanks would be nice for trying to help you. But hey next time i wont even reply
|ROM|Bootloader|Kernel|Modem| AT&T Official 4.3 MJB |24 Nov 2013| There you go all stock. make sure you hit the thanks button for everyone (not my files I just found them)
You cant flash this in odin but can use TWRP or CWM. will get you back all stock. Good luck...
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|ROM|Bootloader|Kernel|Modem| AT&T Official 4.3 MJB |24 Nov 2013| There you go all stock. make sure you hit the thanks button for everyone (not my files I just found them)
You cant flash this in odin but can use TWRP or CWM. will get you back all stock. Good luck...
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Do I have to be on a stock rom to use this? I'm currently on Quantum V3 and I don't have access to a stock rom to revert to since my baseband was updated.
n_alvarez2007 said:
Do I have to be on a stock rom to use this? I'm currently on Quantum V3 and I don't have access to a stock rom to revert to since my baseband was updated.
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No you don't have to be on the stock rom to use that, but the bootloaders are for 4.3 so if you haven't updated yet this will update you.
You can flash any rom you want to as long as you do not mess with the bootloader you will be OK. I do not know if this work on anything besides an at&t phone using it on anything else is done so at your own risk just the same as using it.
What about the recovery? any way to get a stock recovery image?
I'm currently running beanstalk 4.4.1 rooted with twrp installed. I did the 4.3 OTA update before I went with the custom roms.
what is my options as far as going back to stock 4.3? I've read several threads but non of them were the exact scenario that im in. Any help is appreciated.
Are you running an AT&T phone? If you are, you cannot flash any rom that tries to flash a bootloader that is older than 4.3. If you do, it will brick the phone.
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Are you running an AT&T phone? If you are, you cannot flash any rom that tries to flash a bootloader that is older than 4.3. If you do, it will brick the phone.
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yes it is at&t. Also I do have my original backup but twrp doesn't recognize it
Why not load a 4.3-based ROM? If you want to go back to stock, you could try using mobile Odin to load a stock ROM.
I attempted to flash a 4.4.2 rom yesterday but it couldnt and it gave me a status 7 error. I looked it up and people said that you have to update clockworkmod. Well i tried to through terminal but it couldn't. It said something like could not find directory. So if anyone has any idea what I can do pleast tell me.
Using Galaxy s3 sgh-i747 on PA 3.99.1 ROM
Flash Philz Touch from here via Odin (use the tar version in PDA): http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/d2att
alright i did it through odin and it worked..now im gonna make a backup again and try flashing a rom. hope it works. thanks for the help
If you can't flash a KK ROM, you may need to update your bootloader. If you're not on a 4.3 bootloader, try and avoid it for now.
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If you can't flash a KK ROM, you may need to update your bootloader. If you're not on a 4.3 bootloader, try and avoid it for now.
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im on a 4.3 rom but if i get error status 7 again ill just restore my backup and avoid it...is there a 4.3 bootloader? Also i was about to wipe it but its asking me wipe data/factory reset or clean to install a new ROM. I suggest its the 2nd one but if i do it and it doesnt work can i still restore my backup?
orlans21 said:
im on a 4.3 rom but if i get error status 7 again ill just restore my backup and avoid it...is there a 4.3 bootloader? Also i was about to wipe it but its asking me wipe data/factory reset or clean to install a new ROM. I suggest its the 2nd one but if i do it and it doesnt work can i still restore my backup?
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There is a 4.3 bootloader that would be installed if you ran an OTA update to 4.3 or you manually installed the 4.3 bootloader.
Did you make your backup using Philz? If not, make the backup using Philz, then wipe and install.
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There is a 4.3 bootloader that would be installed if you ran an OTA update to 4.3 or you manually installed the 4.3 bootloader.
Did you make your backup using Philz? If not, make the backup using Philz, then wipe and install.
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I just made a backup on Philz and im not sure if i installed a 4.3 bootloader manually or OTA. Just to be clear im wiping to install ROM. so the 2nd option
orlans21 said:
I just made a backup on Philz and im not sure if i installed a 4.3 bootloader manually or OTA
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Doesn't really matter but it's good to know that you need to stay away from any attempts to downgrade the bootloader.
hahah why would i want to downgrade?
orlans21 said:
hahah why would i want to downgrade?
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I have seen posts where people bricked their phone when trying to return to a stock ROM using Odin.
well...im gonna have to put it back to a stock rom when i get a new phone and give this to my dad...i still have the 4.1 stock downloaded on my computer...i dont even remember how to put it back now lol. so i should try flashing a 4.4.2 rom? which rom do you prefer? i have carbon and liquidsmooth. i want halo like i do on PA and both have it i believe
orlans21 said:
well...im gonna have to put it back to a stock rom when i get a new phone and give this to my dad...i still have the 4.1 stock downloaded on my computer...i dont even remember how to put it back now lol
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You can't restore to a completely stock ROM not that you have a 4.3 bootloader. AT&T never released a full 4.3 stock ROM, only an update to 4.3 from an earlier stock ROM.
If you did not have a 4.3 bootloader, you could install any stock AT&T ROM such as 4.1.1. Being able to restore to stock 4.1.1 would also allow you to sim unlock your phone for free, if necessary.
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You can't restore to a completely stock ROM not that you have a 4.3 bootloader. AT&T never released a full 4.3 stock ROM, only an update to 4.3 from an earlier stock ROM.
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well im on rogers and its the same as att. i still have the original samsung touchwiz 4.1 rom just incase anything happens.
Your original post said you have an sgh-i747 which is an AT&T model. If you have a Rogers s3, it's an sgh-i747m.
Regardless of which model you have, you can't downgrade from any 4.3 bootloader which means you can't completely revert back to 4.1.1. The best you could do would be to run 4.1.1 on a 4.3 bootloader.
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Your original post said you have an sgh-i747 which is an AT&T model. If you have a Rogers s3, it's an sgh-i747m.
Regardless of which model you have, you can't downgrade from any 4.3 bootloader which means you can't completely revert back to 4.1.1. The best you could do would be to run 4.1.1 on a 4.3 bootloader.
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sorry i should have included the m lol. i wont worry about going back to 4.1 until the galaxy s5 comes out and im ready to give it to my dad. but back to focusing on this. im about to attempt to flash a 4.4.2 rom. either liquidsmooth or carbon. what do you like?
I prefer Validus version 4.3 because it includes Nova Launcher and it has a dark UI theme.
but thats 4.3. i wanna be on 4.4 and im installing nova and making it the way i had it before.
wait a second is it a 4.4 rom?
orlans21 said:
but thats 4.3. i wanna be on 4.4 and im installing nova and making it the way i had it before.
wait a second is it a 4.4 rom?
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It is a 4.4.2-based rom. The release is version 4.3.
hmm interesting...you do recommend it? what great features does it come with?
I like it because it's a very stripped-down ROM, has a dark UI, and is AOSP-based.
It's not radically different from other ROMs but has exactly what I want. I run the same ROM on a Nexus 4 and Motorola Atrix HD.
Okay, so my phone is currently running 4.4.2 Cyanogenmod right now, I had to find out the hard way that I cant jump back to 4.3 due to the bootloader but will it be possible to install the stock 4.4.2 safely once its released? Or is there a way to go back down to 4.3 that I'm missing..
Shiro_Yuki said:
Okay, so my phone is currently running 4.4.2 Cyanogenmod right now, I had to find out the hard way that I cant jump back to 4.3 due to the bootloader but will it be possible to install the stock 4.4.2 safely once its released? Or is there a way to go back down to 4.3 that I'm missing..
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Don't know how you got the impression you can't go back to 4.3 from Kit-Kat based CM. CM, like most stock ROMs, doesn't come with its own bootloaders but relies on manufacturer's bootloader to run. If you went to CM from stock 4.3, chances are your bootloader was unaffected and still remains at 4.3. You can check what bootloader your phone is on by going to settings and seeing what you have under baseband. If it's UCUEMJB then you have the 4.3 (MJB) bootloader and you should be able to use custom recovery to flash a stock 4.3 restore image.
If history is anything to go by, you would be unlikely to get the (newly released) 4.4.2 update OTA if you are not on a full stock (or stock-based) ROM. I would, however, not be in a rush for OTA as we can always trust the good guys in the development community to come up with a manual update process shortly. If you still want to revert to full stock 4.3, then you can follow the instructions in the thread below ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658486
Your right!
Used the process you gave me and it worked, I had been trying to use odin but I supose a simpler solution was better. Thanks again!
I just switched from stable CM10.1 to stock 4.4.2 this week. It sucks. Performance and battery dropped drastically. Will be going back to CFW asap.
My SGH-T999 currently has slimkat 4.4.4 I have searched through this thread to see if it possible to go back down to back down to 4.3, however it appears that the because 4.4.4 has new bootloader this cannot be done and could brick the phone due to knox? Can anyone confirm this for me?
Are you looking to flashing the stock full firmware or a custom rom? You only flashed a 4.4.4 ROM not firmware, and there is no official 4.4.4 for any of our S3 variants, only 4.4.2. T999 doesn't even have a 4.4.2 update as of now, so you can go back to 4.3 firmware if you would like
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Are you looking to flashing the stock full firmware or a custom rom? You only flashed a 4.4.4 ROM not firmware, and there is no official 4.4.4 for any of our S3 variants, only 4.4.2. T999 doesn't even have a 4.4.2 update as of now, so you can go back to 4.3 firmware if you would like
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Yes, I'm trying to flash back to the 4.3 stock image. Basically I have rooted, and flashed a custom Rom (slimkat) and I would like to back to the stock experience.
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Yes, I'm trying to flash back to the 4.3 stock image. Basically I have rooted, and flashed a custom Rom (slimkat) and I would like to back to the stock experience.
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Then yes, you can flash the stock firmware