Just like the topic says I just want to know how long should I initially charge the battery and how would I go about doing that if I don't have just a battery charger? It's a stock oem battery I just got from eBay and it didn't come with any instructions so I'm trying to figure out the discharge and charge instructions also so I don't fry this battery
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No special steps necessary.
right. plug it in like normal. Some say to discharge oob, then charge all the way. i personally just let it drain 1-2%, then plug in and charge full uninterrupted.
www.batteryuniversity.com if yoh want to research for yourself.
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DocHoliday77 said:
right. plug it in like normal. Some say to discharge oob, then charge all the way. i personally just let it drain 1-2%, then plug in and charge full uninterrupted.
www.batteryuniversity.com if yoh want to research for yourself.
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Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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Yes That's correct steps. Anytime bellow 10 % is good time to charge. Do try to wait till its 100 % before unplugging though. Lithum Ion has only so many Cycles.
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Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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What I meant was I just let it drop by 1-2%, not to that point. Imo on first charge there's just not a need to do a full discharge like some say. But when I plug it in I leave it alone till ready. Then first cycle I drop to 5-10% and charge fully once more. After that it doesn't really matter. (That first full cycle is just habit for me. I don't believe it's necessary though.)
Li ion batteries are much more forgiving than people think. Lots of incorrect rumors and info out there. That's why I suggested that link earlier.
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What I meant was I just let it drop by 1-2%, not to that point. Imo on first charge there's just not a need to do a full discharge like some say. But when I plug it in I leave it alone till ready. Then first cycle I drop to 5-10% and charge fully once more. After that it doesn't really matter. (That first full cycle is just habit for me. I don't believe it's necessary though.)
Li ion batteries are much more forgiving than people think. Lots of incorrect rumors and info out there. That's why I suggested that link earlier.
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Ah I understand... I just want the longest out of my battery but now I'm debating on what phone to get for black Friday! Anyway thank you for the help I feel like discharging it completely and charging it completely is the way to go instead of plugging it in here and there.
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I haven't bothered with following any guidelines in a long time, and after a year and a half my battery was still running strong.
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Anyway thank you for the help I feel like discharging it completely and charging it completely is the way to go instead of plugging it in here and there.
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Do note, if you drain 100 % or nearly there then after you plug in, the phone won't turn on for first 20 minutes or so. It will start afterwards.
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I haven't bothered with following any guidelines in a long time, and after a year and a half my battery was still running strong.
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Do note, if you drain 100 % or nearly there then after you plug in, the phone won't turn on for first 20 minutes or so. It will start afterwards.
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Aright thank you both... I try not to use the phone on charge anyway so that 20 minute thing is fine plus I hear it's bad for the battery and I feel like that's what caused My battery to fry in less than a year
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I personally don't even care. I just charge it whenever I want regardless of what percent, and leave it charging overnight and get 100% when I wake up. The best thing about this phone is that it has a removable battery. If my battery ever dies, I'll just buy another one.
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Ok I got a new extended battery what souls I do to condition it so my phone will charge to to 100%
I'm in rooted so can't wipe battery stats
Also is there a way to check its capacity so I know its fully charged
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Since you aren't rooted, best you can do is:
-Charge to 100%
-Let the phone die, so its manually turns off
-Charge back to 100%, use as normal
And not really...
Aww, c'mon Roxx, you know that's not the way. Even HTC says don't let your battery die.
Let it drop to under about 50%, then charge for 8 hrs, while off. Unplug, boot up let it settle in for a few mins, then power down and charge for another hour.
Then boot up.
That's the best for unrooted phones.
I just feel odd about killing batteries and anything 4 my 2nd question good app to monitor my battery......most don't have good info
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Aww, c'mon Roxx, you know that's not the way. Even HTC says don't let your battery die.
Let it drop to under about 50%, then charge for 8 hrs, while off. Unplug, boot up let it settle in for a few mins, then power down and charge for another hour.
Then boot up.
That's the best for unrooted phones.
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Well it gives the lithium batteries the best chance to discharge, then started the process over. Continued practice of that is bad, but for 1 power cycle, it is okay. Though through normal usage, you should charge it whenever it gets low
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I just feel odd about killing batteries and anything 4 my 2nd question good app to monitor my battery......most don't have good info
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Battery Moniter Widget is the best, and I don't think you need be rooted for it.
Rexx, I agree that doing it once may not be bad, but I say why take chances, ya know?
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Battery Moniter Widget is the best, and I don't think you need be rooted for it.
Rexx, I agree that doing it once may not be bad, but I say why take chances, ya know?
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Yea a good app for non rooted phones.
And well fair enough, especially for those less experienced.
This was posted awhile ago on the xda EVO 4G forum and it seemed to work for me.
1) turn ON Phone & charge for 8 hrs.
then
2) unplug charger - turn OFF phone & charge another hour (1)
then
3) unplug charger - turn phone ON, wait (2) minutes then,
turn OFF phone & charge another hour (1).
Your battery has been set and your battery time should be doubled.
This as per HTC
I have also found that using the app: Juicedefender
works great even with its default settings.
Good Luck...
I'm a moderate user the norm battery would last me from 2 am to about 1 pm I work nights
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Hey I've read on other forums about these battery calibration apps and whatnot, just want to know if anyone has used them and know if they really do work? The wife and I both have the Dinc2 and i loaded andybonestock on both of our phones.. i use my phone like crazy and she barely uses hers. i put drellis's 21 on and UV 50 and within 15 min off the charger i'm down at most to 98 battery and she's already down to 90. her battery drains rediculously faster than mine and they're both the same exact rom's and kernel specs. Will these app's actually work or is there a real/better way to get hers working better?
Use battery calibration from the market and follow the instructions to a T. Her battery could also be defective. Try the calibration first though.
that's what i'm trying to do. I have it charging right now, at 84% then im going to run it.. just wanted to know if there was any proof it worked or any other option
I left my inc2 get charge to 100% and then use the battery calibration,i notice that my battery goes down from 100% to 97% in just 5second,the battery life is good after goes to 97%,but im not sure why goes down to 97% that fast.
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I left my inc2 get charge to 100% and then use the battery calibration,i notice that my battery goes down from 100% to 97% in just 5second,the battery life is good after goes to 97%,but im not sure why goes down to 97% that fast.
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Just a heads up, that is normal, your battery will never stay at 100% it doesn't charge to 100% unless you bump charge it (and that is bad for your actual battery). Having it drop anywhere from 97% to 92% is common, after that you will notice a substantial slowdown in battery drain unless you are heavily using the phone.
I added a picture of my battery life as an example of the length I am getting from the ICS Rom I'm currently using. I have my phone oc'd to 1.4ghz and uv -25 across the board. This screenshot was taken after a day full of phone calls ranging between 3 minutes and 20 minutes, moderate browser usage, moderate facebook usage and lots of texting.
Ya I knew it wouldn't stay at 100 at all but like how mine would be at 97 after 15min and hers at 90.. it just didn't add up.. she rarely used her phone and only had about 6 hours of charge, while my battery with excessive use had enough battery to last me about 16 hours. I reset battery stats and then bump charged her phone. Now its fine
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Ya I knew it wouldn't stay at 100 at all but like how mine would be at 97 after 15min and hers at 90.. it just didn't add up.. she rarely used her phone and only had about 6 hours of charge, while my battery with excessive use had enough battery to last me about 16 hours. I reset battery stats and then bump charged her phone. Now its fine
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glad you figured it out.
careful on bump charging, it decreases the life of the battery itself everytime you do it.
I personally don't use the apps. I've had the best luck with charging to 100%, power off and charge till green light, unplug and do one more time, boot to recovery, wipe battery, power up and unplug. That's just me though.
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I personally don't use the apps. I've had the best luck with charging to 100%, power off and charge till green light, unplug and do one more time, boot to recovery, wipe battery, power up and unplug. That's just me though.
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That's what I did to remove battery stats.. read up on the app and realized its the same thing as doing it in recovery
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I personally don't use the apps. I've had the best luck with charging to 100%, power off and charge till green light, unplug and do one more time, boot to recovery, wipe battery, power up and unplug. That's just me though.
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Charging to 100% and then powering off and charging again IS bump charging, that is bad for your battery itself, it takes away life on the actual battery everytime you do it. I said this above. You may be getting an extra half hour to an hour out of your batterys life but you are decreasing the amount of times it can actually hold a charge each time you do that, therefore ruining your battery for a tiny bit of extra battery life per charge.
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Charging to 100% and then powering off and charging again IS bump charging, that is bad for your battery itself, it takes away life on the actual battery everytime you do it. I said this above. You may be getting an extra half hour to an hour out of your batterys life but you are decreasing the amount of times it can actually hold a charge each time you do that, therefore ruining your battery for a tiny bit of extra battery life per charge.
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I'm quite aware of what it IS. I also didn't say I do it every charge. I also know that some say its not good. I also know some say smoking can kill you. I also know I've done it on other devices with no problems. And I also didn't say for anyone to do it. I only said what I do and what has worked for me.
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I'm quite aware of what it IS. I also didn't say I do it every charge. I also know that some say its not good. I also know some say smoking can kill you. I also know I've done it on other devices with no problems. And I also didn't say for anyone to do it. I only said what I do and what has worked for me.
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The smoking analogy doesn't really relate, smoking can kill you but doesn't always, bump charging for a fact decreased the longevity of your battery hence shortens the time before it does not hold a charge anymore and you have to buy a new one. I made a factual comment, I did not need a condesending response.
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The smoking analogy doesn't really relate, smoking can kill you but doesn't always, bump charging for a fact decreased the longevity of your battery hence shortens the time before it does not hold a charge anymore and you have to buy a new one. I made a factual comment, I did not need a condesending response.
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*condescending
And if it's a fact, can you provide a link to a scientific study backing up your claims? If not, please don't claim that it's fact based on forum posts by other users and your own anecdotal experiences.
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Hey everyone,
I received my Xperia Arc S 3 days ago. Well, since it's my first smartphone and I was not used to it I first used all the battery and then I gave it 12hours of charging.
Well it seems I did it wrong since Li-Poly batteries shouldn't be charged on that way. So, here are my questions.
1. The fact of letting my phone completely discharge and then give it 12 hours charge was a BIG MISTAKE?
2. How can I correctly charge my device?
Thank you all.
Why it should be a big mistake?
I've done the same:
buying
completely discharged
charged for many hours
I haven't any battery drain or something and I also heard you should do that (correct me if I'm wrong).
Hey pal,
Well I thought it would be the right procedure as well but it seems that with Li-Poly batteries we shouldn't let them completely discharge as it may affect its life. However, I am not sure and I still don't know if it's the truth! Let's wait for some more feedback and see what's coming.
Plus, how long does your battery stand?
Note: In addition, thank you for your response
These new batteries need no charging circles etc
You're good to go
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These new batteries need no charging circles etc
You're good to go
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Excuse me Flo95,
Did you mean charging cicles? What do you mean by good to go? That I don't have to let it discharge and I may charge it whenever I want?
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Excuse me Flo95,
Did you mean charging cicles? What do you mean by good to go? That I don't have to let it discharge and I may charge it whenever I want?
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If I'm correct previous batteries had 5% circles and current batteries have about 20% (as a full charge).
He means that everything is okay and you won't have any problems.
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If I'm correct previous batteries had 5% circles and current batteries have about 20% (as a full charge).
He means that everything is okay and you won't have any problems.
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Ok buddy,
Thank you for that!
Well, plus, can I remove the device after 3 / 4 hours (as long as it says 100%) of charging and normally use it with only that time of charging? What about the opposite? Let it charge all night long while I sleep? No problem with both methods?
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Ok buddy,
Thank you for that!
Well, plus, can I remove the device after 3 / 4 hours (as long as it says 100%) of charging and normally use it with only that time of charging? What about the opposite? Let it charge all night long while I sleep? No problem with both methods?
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No problem with both.
Usually I'm charging over night too.
But if I remember right a complete charge only needs about 2 hours.
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No problem with both.
Usually I'm charging over night too.
But if I remember right a complete charge only needs about 2 hours.
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Well, my one is charging for 2 hours now and it says its battery is 88% charged!
I have to leave in 1:30 hours and I guess It'll be fully charged then. Hopefully I won't have to charge it again during the night
You can plug it in as long as you want, nothing will happen exept the battery gets charged.
Sometimes I plug it in 5 mins before going out and my battery is ok.
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How to properly charge Galaxy Note 2?
Do you let it charge overnight no matter what the battery percentage is? Do you let it go down to 40%-50% and then charge it? Maybe 10%-15% and then charge it? Can you somehow damage the battery if you leave it on the charger longer than you should to?
Thanks in advance guys!
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How to properly charge Galaxy Note 2?
Do you let it charge overnight no matter what the battery percentage is? Do you let it go down to 40%-50% and then charge it? Maybe 10%-15% and then charge it? Can you somehow damage the battery if you leave it on the charger longer than you should to?
Thanks in advance guys!
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When the phone alerts you to charge .. thats the right time.. and dont charge it overnight the battery will be damaged!!! Im only charging my phone when it hit less than 20%..
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and dont charge it overnight the battery will be damaged!!!
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Is this really true?
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Is this really true?
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I keep reading it, but they never provide any proof or explanation why. Im prettt sure the phone is smart enough to turn off the charging when it hits full.
Tons of battery bs gets spewed like gospel.
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BoBBBBBBBO said:
How to properly charge Galaxy Note 2?
Do you let it charge overnight no matter what the battery percentage is? Do you let it go down to 40%-50% and then charge it? Maybe 10%-15% and then charge it? Can you somehow damage the battery if you leave it on the charger longer than you should to?
Thanks in advance guys!
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Google is your friend here. As a rule you should try to keep your device between 25% and 70% charge to get a long life out of the battery.
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Thanks all! And how long should I charge it?
I've always charged all my phones overnight regardless of percentage and never noticed any change of decrease in battery performance.
And no the battery will not be damaged from charging overnight
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I've always charged all my phones overnight regardless of percentage and never noticed any change of decrease in battery performance.
And no the battery will not be damaged from charging overnight
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Same here. I think is a myth that batteries get damaged if charging overnight, at least these days that smartphones is actually "smart" and stops the charging automatically when the battery is full.
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I've always charged all my phones overnight regardless of percentage and never noticed any change of decrease in battery performance.
And no the battery will not be damaged from charging overnight
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I've always charged my iPhone 4 overnight and it had the best battery, never damaged.
How to charge:
Plug in phone whenever you want.
Charge multiple times at whatever power levels.
Unplug whenever you want.
Enjoy life.
My batteries last a year using my patented "I don't give a F" method, so it's not worth stressing over "OMG I AM CHARGING ABOVE/BELOW X PERCENTAGE!!!!!111ONEONE" Replacement batteries are cheap and easy to come by, a year is a reasonable lifespan and not stressing over it is priceless.
However, if you feel the need to freak right the heck out over your battery, just do it over there in the corner where I can't see/hear you.
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Thanks all! And how long should I charge it?
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kylec said:
I've always charged all my phones overnight regardless of percentage and never noticed any change of decrease in battery performance.
And no the battery will not be damaged from charging overnight
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This advice is for battery lifetime, not battery performance. Quote from wikipedia:
A Standard (Cobalt) Li-ion cell that is full most of the time at 25 °C (77 °F) irreversibly loses approximately 20% capacity per year.[citation needed] Poor ventilation may increase temperatures, further shortening battery life. Loss rates vary by temperature: 6% loss at 0 °C (32 °F), 20% at 25 °C (77 °F), and 35% at 40 °C (104 °F).
When stored at 40%–60% charge level, the capacity loss is reduced to 2%, 4%, and 15%, respectively.[citation needed] In contrast, the calendar life of LiFePO4 cells is not affected by being kept at a high state of charge.[47]
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This advice is for battery lifetime, not battery performance. Quote from wikipedia:
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Well it wouldn't exactly be full most of the time now would it
I won't deny that the maintaining a charge between 40-60% may prolong battery lifetime but the benefit of having A full battery at the beginning of everyday easily outweighs the "potential" loss of 20% battery capacity after a year. Also the hassle of maintaining a battery percentage between those limits is simply not worth it.
A new battery goes for as little as $6 here in Australia. IF there is any noticeable decrease in battery life (eg. From a loss of max capacity) then a new battery is cost basically nothing.
I charge all my devices over night if the percentage is lower than 85% and all of them still last just as long as the day I got them.
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sleebus.jones said:
How to charge:
Plug in phone whenever you want.
Charge multiple times at whatever power levels.
Unplug whenever you want.
Enjoy life.
My batteries last a year using my patented "I don't give a F" method, so it's not worth stressing over "OMG I AM CHARGING ABOVE/BELOW X PERCENTAGE!!!!!111ONEONE" Replacement batteries are cheap and easy to come by, a year is a reasonable lifespan and not stressing over it is priceless.
However, if you feel the need to freak right the heck out over your battery, just do it over there in the corner where I can't see/hear you.
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Exactly.
I mean seriously, why on earth people think too much about charging, when to charge and all, if my battery will be damaged or not, this isn't a phone of 1995! And there is no harm done if you charge overnight.
I've used all my phones like this and never had a problem with battery, not the slightest, however I don't use any phone for more than 18 months.
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But I'm many devices the battery is not removable...
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If overcharging does not destroy your battery and its only a myth.. then why is it included in the USER MANUAL??
For now you will never notice it.. but as time goes by you will feel a slight change in battery usage..but by that time I think you have a new phone.. so dont worry about it..
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If overcharging does not destroy your battery and its only a myth.. then why is it included in the USER MANUAL??
For now you will never notice it.. but as time goes by you will feel a slight change in battery usage..but by that time I think you have a new phone.. so dont worry about it..
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Lol but it also says in most manuals that you should charge for 6 -8 hours prior to using the device even though it's unnecessary.
I think its only really there to cover themselves for as many situations as possible
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Same thing. By the time there is any noticeable impact on the battery most users will have a new phone.
My X10 is about 3 years old now and used by my brother. I charged it every night (sometimes even during the day as well) regardless of percentage and to this day the screen time and overall time are still almost the same as the first day. Definitely no more than a 10% decrease
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rub feet on carpet while holding phone for 3-4hrs.
I've never noticed a difference in by charging over night. I've noticed a difference when using different chargers though.
Phone beeps I plug it in, when it shows charged I unplug, not exactly difficult
Hello I was wondering what is the optimal way to charge the s3? With wall charger or in comp? Should I let it plugued more after it says "Charged(100%)"?
I have a Zerolemon 7100mAh
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I just picked up a Zero Lemon 2300 and still trying to figure out best way. The instructions they give you just dont make sense to me
They make it looks kinda simple but how can we be sure the battery is really fully charged or decharged etc..
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They make it looks kinda simple but how can we be sure the battery is really fully charged or decharged etc..
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Exactly. Plus every time I read someones post on how they did it its always different.
My first battery charge I did what they said. Charged for 12 hours with phone off. Ran it down to 1% and then recharged. Left it on charger for about half hour-hour past full charge. Did the 5 recharge cycles.
Think second battery I may install and run down to 1% before fully charging. My batteries came in with about 56% charge. I dont see why they would need to be charged for 12 hours like that
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Hello I was wondering what is the optimal way to charge the s3? With wall charger or in comp? Should I let it plugued more after it says "Charged(100%)"?
I have a Zerolemon 7100mAh
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fastest should always be wall charger since it has higher current than your usb port in your computer will output, especially if you don't have fast charge enabled (root and rom support required for fast charge).
TL;DR use a wall charger
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aeppacher said:
fastest should always be wall charger since it has higher current than your usb port in your computer will output, especially if you don't have fast charge enabled (root and rom support required for fast charge).
TL;DR use a wall charger
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Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
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Exactly. Plus every time I read someones post on how they did it its always different.
My first battery charge I did what they said. Charged for 12 hours with phone off. Ran it down to 1% and then recharged. Left it on charger for about half hour-hour past full charge. Did the 5 recharge cycles.
Think second battery I may install and run down to 1% before fully charging. My batteries came in with about 56% charge. I dont see why they would need to be charged for 12 hours like that
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Same thing here.. But i think we should have used it all to 1% BEFORE the first charge.. Doesnt it make more sense?
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Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
Same thing here.. But i think we should have used it all to 1% BEFORE the first charge.. Doesnt it make more sense?
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That makes sense to me. I posted on their Facebook page asking for clarification on charging steps. And asked about draining it first before first charge
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Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
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Chemically speaking, the speed variation of the reaction shouldn't matter on health. The process is pretty much reversible which is why you can recharge it after draining. The only reason batteries die is because this process isn't perfect, and sometimes chemical pollutants form. In this case the current and time variation shouldn't provide a better battery health either way. For best battery health simply drain the whole way down before charging it. Charging it when its not completely empty tends to make it die faster. (Chem major here)
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DarkFranX said:
Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
Same thing here.. But i think we should have used it all to 1% BEFORE the first charge.. Doesnt it make more sense?
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OK here's the reply I got
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For best results we ask that customers let the items die down to 1-4% before your first charge. Leave the battery charging for 12 hours if you are able to. Then repeat this cycling 4-5 times. This will yield the best results the quickest. Hope this helps.
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OK here's the reply I got
Rami Mubasher
For best results we ask that customers let the items die down to 1-4% before your first charge. Leave the battery charging for 12 hours if you are able to. Then repeat this cycling 4-5 times. This will yield the best results the quickest. Hope this helps.
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Alright thanks for this clarification! Then the best would be to always do full discharge/charge cycle?
aeppacher said:
Chemically speaking, the speed variation of the reaction shouldn't matter on health. The process is pretty much reversible which is why you can recharge it after draining. The only reason batteries die is because this process isn't perfect, and sometimes chemical pollutants form. In this case the current and time variation shouldn't provide a better battery health either way. For best battery health simply drain the whole way down before charging it. Charging it when its not completely empty tends to make it die faster. (Chem major here)
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Great answer! And what about letting the phone plugued in at 100%? Like a whole night? I've heard so much things, some says "it's better to always charge it a little when you can because it is bad if it reaches 0%". I know it's a chemical reaction and I know the internal resistor gets altered over time providing less efficient charge/decharge. When the phone closes it is because not enough power comes out of the battery, but the reaction is still there and by pluguing it we revive it.. right? That would make sense to me. That would mean that there isn't a charging habit killing the battery life more than another?
DarkFranX said:
Alright thanks for this clarification! Then the best would be to always do full discharge/charge cycle?
Great answer! And what about letting the phone plugued in at 100%? Like a whole night? I've heard so much things, some says "it's better to always charge it a little when you can because it is bad if it reaches 0%". I know it's a chemical reaction and I know the internal resistor gets altered over time providing less efficient charge/decharge. When the phone closes it is because not enough power comes out of the battery, but the reaction is still there and by pluguing it we revive it.. right? That would make sense to me. That would mean that there isn't a charging habit killing the battery life more than another?
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I generally like to unplug when full. The reason being, when it gets to 100% it discharges to 99% and the back to 100% it charges. Now in all reality you won't notice any of this battery dying with current gen li-ion batteries unless you keep a battery for like 2 years of use. But then you can always replace it. Bottom line is its not really worth worrying about. I don't know why people say letting it go to 0% is bad. The less repetitive charging, the better, this means letting it go from 100 to 0 as often as possible.
TL;DR it doesn't matter, your battery will outlive your new phone cycle
Thanks a lot for those clear answers!
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