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First time charge on Xperia Play ?

Hi I just got a brand new Xperia Play today I turned it on and it had 18% battery life left.
I wanted to ask how long shall I charge the Xperia Play for ?
Thanks

Leave it on the charger until it says 100%. In fact, it would be even better if you let it go completely dead and then charged it. I usually just put mine on the charger when I go to bed and it's full when I get up. I think it only takes a couple hours otherwise.
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netizenmt said:
Leave it on the charger until it says 100%. In fact, it would be even better if you let it go completely dead and then charged it. I usually just put mine on the charger when I go to bed and it's full when I get up. I think it only takes a couple hours otherwise.
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So you leave it on charge for the whole night ?

Does anyone know why the battery goes down even when the phone is idle? By go down, I mean quite recognizably as my old ZTE blade didn't seem to do this significantly.
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KindaUndisputed said:
Does anyone know why the battery goes down even when the phone is idle? By go down, I mean quite recognizably as my old ZTE blade didn't seem to do this significantly.
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That happens with my Xperia Play as well even though I don't have any apps running. Btw how much does yours go down by? A few percent is normal.

KindaUndisputed said:
Does anyone know why the battery goes down even when the phone is idle? By go down, I mean quite recognizably as my old ZTE blade didn't seem to do this significantly.
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Because you're device still requires power to run, even if it's in the idle state. When the phone is in Standby and Idle, it will require far less power then say if the screen is turned on but not doing anything. You may have to see if there are other running services in the background (which is most likely the case).
After rooting and removing most/all bloatware, you'll notice that standby/idle take hardly any battery life from your phone.

Hi! Every phone that was newly bought should charge up to 8 hours. Every phone dealer told me that, I even charge mine 8 hours when I first bought it. It'll be better if you charge it 8 hours at first, the battery will last longer.
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Giankwang said:
Hi! Every phone that was newly bought should charge up to 8 hours. Every phone dealer told me that, I even charge mine 8 hours when I first bought it. It'll be better if you charge it 8 hours at first, the battery will last longer.
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I actually don't think charging it for 8 hours prolongs the battery life.
4 hours is enough.

It doesn't matter with modern lithium batteries, just charge it as and when you like

Michealtbh said:
It doesn't matter with modern lithium batteries, just charge it as and when you like
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Yeah true. Just charge it until you reach 100%. It doesn't make a difference if you leave the charger in or not after 100%

Thanks guys
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maybe, anyways I think just charge it up to 100% and let charge for a little more while, and just unplug it and you're Playstation Certified!

[Q] How To Change Battery #GNote2?

Maybe this question has been asked for many user.. but I need more clearly solution. My Question is simple.
Which one the best method to change our #GNote2 battery?
a. Charge it whatever have a time to change
b. Change it when our #GNote2 said that we need to charge our battery
c. Always Change until it FULLY CHANGED... and never remove charger cable before battery full.
Or any the best method?
Thanks

jauhari said:
Maybe this question has been asked for many user.. but I need more clearly solution. My Question is simple.
Which one the best method to change our #GNote2 battery?
a. Charge it whatever have a time to change
b. Change it when our #GNote2 said that we need to charge our battery
c. Always Change until it FULLY CHANGED... and never remove charger cable before battery full.
Or any the best method?
Thanks
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lol u can change the battery any time u like,and always remove the charge cable from ur phone,simple

turborider said:
lol u can change the battery any time u like,and always remove the charge cable from ur phone,simple
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Remove the cable without waiting the battery full? Is it okay?

Why wouldn't it be?

jauhari said:
Remove the cable without waiting the battery full? Is it okay?
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No more battery memory right now .
Of coz you can use your phone battery to under 20% then charge it back to 100%
But it's not easy @ note2.
Everyday I have around 30-40% battery leave when I charging.

goddamnit said:
No more battery memory right now .
Of coz you can use your phone battery to under 20% then charge it back to 100%
But it's not easy @ note2.
Everyday I have around 30-40% battery leave when I charging.
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Can you explain more about what you said
But it's not easy @ note2
Regards

jauhari said:
Can you explain more about what you said
But it's not easy @ note2
Regards
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Bwuh? Not easy? It's as easy as plugging or unplugging it! Sheesh...
You cannot damage your battery by not charging it to full each cycle. At all. Period.

jauhari said:
Can you explain more about what you said
But it's not easy @ note2
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If you use your note2 as normal user.
Internet browser for 3-4 hours
Video for 1-2 hours
What's app ,email ,or something
You can never see the battery warning after one day usage.
-> I suppose you cannot hand on your phone all day time

Thanks you for all of your answer.. now my Battery knowledge has been increased..

FloatingFatMan said:
Bwuh? Not easy? It's as easy as plugging or unplugging it! Sheesh...
You cannot damage your battery by not charging it to full each cycle. At all. Period.
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In his defense, I have had several phones where the charging port eventually got flaky and I also kind of worry about this slightly. This includes the note 1.
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ChodTheWacko said:
In his defense, I have had several phones where the charging port eventually got flaky and I also kind of worry about this slightly. This includes the note 1.
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That has nothing to do with the battery and everything to do with being careless when plugging or unplugging.

OP, you may want to google or wiki the latest battery technology. Those 'tips' (b) and (c) you mentioned were good for NiMH batteries. Nowadays, we use Li ion or Li polymer batteries which do not need to be fully charged and discharged to maintain longevity.
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Two things are important for prolonging your battery (lithium based) life: charging level and depth of discharge. avoid charging to 100% as much as you can, and also avoid wide discharging range.
A good strategy is to charge what you use, that is, if you use only 50% of the capacity every day, then only charge to 80% and use it down to 30%, then recharge.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

Ive never heard 'avoid charging to 100%' .
I dont understand how that could be harmful.

rockky said:
Ive never heard 'avoid charging to 100%' .
I dont understand how that could be harmful.
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It isn't. It's just more FUD about batteries... *sigh*
Listen people. It's -really- very simple. There are no tricks involved. Just drain your battery how you like and charge it how you like. These phones are designed for average people in mind. People who don't have a CLUE about having special discharge/recharge routines. They're designed to be charged whenever the user wants to charge, to 100% or not, as the user likes. The hardware within the charging circuit and battery itself will protect it from harm.

[Q] How to properly charge Galaxy Note 2?

How to properly charge Galaxy Note 2?
Do you let it charge overnight no matter what the battery percentage is? Do you let it go down to 40%-50% and then charge it? Maybe 10%-15% and then charge it? Can you somehow damage the battery if you leave it on the charger longer than you should to?
Thanks in advance guys!

BoBBBBBBBO said:
How to properly charge Galaxy Note 2?
Do you let it charge overnight no matter what the battery percentage is? Do you let it go down to 40%-50% and then charge it? Maybe 10%-15% and then charge it? Can you somehow damage the battery if you leave it on the charger longer than you should to?
Thanks in advance guys!
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When the phone alerts you to charge .. thats the right time.. and dont charge it overnight the battery will be damaged!!! Im only charging my phone when it hit less than 20%..
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gabamoner said:
and dont charge it overnight the battery will be damaged!!!
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Is this really true?

Laynee1 said:
Is this really true?
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I keep reading it, but they never provide any proof or explanation why. Im prettt sure the phone is smart enough to turn off the charging when it hits full.
Tons of battery bs gets spewed like gospel.
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BoBBBBBBBO said:
How to properly charge Galaxy Note 2?
Do you let it charge overnight no matter what the battery percentage is? Do you let it go down to 40%-50% and then charge it? Maybe 10%-15% and then charge it? Can you somehow damage the battery if you leave it on the charger longer than you should to?
Thanks in advance guys!
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Google is your friend here. As a rule you should try to keep your device between 25% and 70% charge to get a long life out of the battery.
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Thanks all! And how long should I charge it?

I've always charged all my phones overnight regardless of percentage and never noticed any change of decrease in battery performance.
And no the battery will not be damaged from charging overnight
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kylec said:
I've always charged all my phones overnight regardless of percentage and never noticed any change of decrease in battery performance.
And no the battery will not be damaged from charging overnight
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Same here. I think is a myth that batteries get damaged if charging overnight, at least these days that smartphones is actually "smart" and stops the charging automatically when the battery is full.

kylec said:
I've always charged all my phones overnight regardless of percentage and never noticed any change of decrease in battery performance.
And no the battery will not be damaged from charging overnight
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I've always charged my iPhone 4 overnight and it had the best battery, never damaged.

How to charge:
Plug in phone whenever you want.
Charge multiple times at whatever power levels.
Unplug whenever you want.
Enjoy life.
My batteries last a year using my patented "I don't give a F" method, so it's not worth stressing over "OMG I AM CHARGING ABOVE/BELOW X PERCENTAGE!!!!!111ONEONE" Replacement batteries are cheap and easy to come by, a year is a reasonable lifespan and not stressing over it is priceless.
However, if you feel the need to freak right the heck out over your battery, just do it over there in the corner where I can't see/hear you.

BoBBBBBBBO said:
Thanks all! And how long should I charge it?
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kylec said:
I've always charged all my phones overnight regardless of percentage and never noticed any change of decrease in battery performance.
And no the battery will not be damaged from charging overnight
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This advice is for battery lifetime, not battery performance. Quote from wikipedia:
A Standard (Cobalt) Li-ion cell that is full most of the time at 25 °C (77 °F) irreversibly loses approximately 20% capacity per year.[citation needed] Poor ventilation may increase temperatures, further shortening battery life. Loss rates vary by temperature: 6% loss at 0 °C (32 °F), 20% at 25 °C (77 °F), and 35% at 40 °C (104 °F).
When stored at 40%–60% charge level, the capacity loss is reduced to 2%, 4%, and 15%, respectively.[citation needed] In contrast, the calendar life of LiFePO4 cells is not affected by being kept at a high state of charge.[47]
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norsepriest said:
This advice is for battery lifetime, not battery performance. Quote from wikipedia:
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Well it wouldn't exactly be full most of the time now would it
I won't deny that the maintaining a charge between 40-60% may prolong battery lifetime but the benefit of having A full battery at the beginning of everyday easily outweighs the "potential" loss of 20% battery capacity after a year. Also the hassle of maintaining a battery percentage between those limits is simply not worth it.
A new battery goes for as little as $6 here in Australia. IF there is any noticeable decrease in battery life (eg. From a loss of max capacity) then a new battery is cost basically nothing.
I charge all my devices over night if the percentage is lower than 85% and all of them still last just as long as the day I got them.
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How to charge: plug charger into wall, attach to phone. Done.
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sleebus.jones said:
How to charge:
Plug in phone whenever you want.
Charge multiple times at whatever power levels.
Unplug whenever you want.
Enjoy life.
My batteries last a year using my patented "I don't give a F" method, so it's not worth stressing over "OMG I AM CHARGING ABOVE/BELOW X PERCENTAGE!!!!!111ONEONE" Replacement batteries are cheap and easy to come by, a year is a reasonable lifespan and not stressing over it is priceless.
However, if you feel the need to freak right the heck out over your battery, just do it over there in the corner where I can't see/hear you.
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Exactly.
I mean seriously, why on earth people think too much about charging, when to charge and all, if my battery will be damaged or not, this isn't a phone of 1995! And there is no harm done if you charge overnight.
I've used all my phones like this and never had a problem with battery, not the slightest, however I don't use any phone for more than 18 months.
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But I'm many devices the battery is not removable...
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If overcharging does not destroy your battery and its only a myth.. then why is it included in the USER MANUAL??
For now you will never notice it.. but as time goes by you will feel a slight change in battery usage..but by that time I think you have a new phone.. so dont worry about it..
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gabamoner said:
If overcharging does not destroy your battery and its only a myth.. then why is it included in the USER MANUAL??
For now you will never notice it.. but as time goes by you will feel a slight change in battery usage..but by that time I think you have a new phone.. so dont worry about it..
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Lol but it also says in most manuals that you should charge for 6 -8 hours prior to using the device even though it's unnecessary.
I think its only really there to cover themselves for as many situations as possible
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But I'm many devices the battery is not removable...
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Same thing. By the time there is any noticeable impact on the battery most users will have a new phone.
My X10 is about 3 years old now and used by my brother. I charged it every night (sometimes even during the day as well) regardless of percentage and to this day the screen time and overall time are still almost the same as the first day. Definitely no more than a 10% decrease
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rub feet on carpet while holding phone for 3-4hrs.

I've never noticed a difference in by charging over night. I've noticed a difference when using different chargers though.

Phone beeps I plug it in, when it shows charged I unplug, not exactly difficult

Best way to charge phone

Hello I was wondering what is the optimal way to charge the s3? With wall charger or in comp? Should I let it plugued more after it says "Charged(100%)"?
I have a Zerolemon 7100mAh
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I just picked up a Zero Lemon 2300 and still trying to figure out best way. The instructions they give you just dont make sense to me

They make it looks kinda simple but how can we be sure the battery is really fully charged or decharged etc..
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DarkFranX said:
They make it looks kinda simple but how can we be sure the battery is really fully charged or decharged etc..
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Exactly. Plus every time I read someones post on how they did it its always different.
My first battery charge I did what they said. Charged for 12 hours with phone off. Ran it down to 1% and then recharged. Left it on charger for about half hour-hour past full charge. Did the 5 recharge cycles.
Think second battery I may install and run down to 1% before fully charging. My batteries came in with about 56% charge. I dont see why they would need to be charged for 12 hours like that

DarkFranX said:
Hello I was wondering what is the optimal way to charge the s3? With wall charger or in comp? Should I let it plugued more after it says "Charged(100%)"?
I have a Zerolemon 7100mAh
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fastest should always be wall charger since it has higher current than your usb port in your computer will output, especially if you don't have fast charge enabled (root and rom support required for fast charge).
TL;DR use a wall charger
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aeppacher said:
fastest should always be wall charger since it has higher current than your usb port in your computer will output, especially if you don't have fast charge enabled (root and rom support required for fast charge).
TL;DR use a wall charger
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Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
jasvncnt1 said:
Exactly. Plus every time I read someones post on how they did it its always different.
My first battery charge I did what they said. Charged for 12 hours with phone off. Ran it down to 1% and then recharged. Left it on charger for about half hour-hour past full charge. Did the 5 recharge cycles.
Think second battery I may install and run down to 1% before fully charging. My batteries came in with about 56% charge. I dont see why they would need to be charged for 12 hours like that
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Same thing here.. But i think we should have used it all to 1% BEFORE the first charge.. Doesnt it make more sense?
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DarkFranX said:
Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
Same thing here.. But i think we should have used it all to 1% BEFORE the first charge.. Doesnt it make more sense?
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That makes sense to me. I posted on their Facebook page asking for clarification on charging steps. And asked about draining it first before first charge
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DarkFranX said:
Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
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Chemically speaking, the speed variation of the reaction shouldn't matter on health. The process is pretty much reversible which is why you can recharge it after draining. The only reason batteries die is because this process isn't perfect, and sometimes chemical pollutants form. In this case the current and time variation shouldn't provide a better battery health either way. For best battery health simply drain the whole way down before charging it. Charging it when its not completely empty tends to make it die faster. (Chem major here)
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DarkFranX said:
Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
Same thing here.. But i think we should have used it all to 1% BEFORE the first charge.. Doesnt it make more sense?
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OK here's the reply I got
Rami Mubasher
For best results we ask that customers let the items die down to 1-4% before your first charge. Leave the battery charging for 12 hours if you are able to. Then repeat this cycling 4-5 times. This will yield the best results the quickest. Hope this helps.
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jasvncnt1 said:
OK here's the reply I got
Rami Mubasher
For best results we ask that customers let the items die down to 1-4% before your first charge. Leave the battery charging for 12 hours if you are able to. Then repeat this cycling 4-5 times. This will yield the best results the quickest. Hope this helps.
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Alright thanks for this clarification! Then the best would be to always do full discharge/charge cycle?
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Chemically speaking, the speed variation of the reaction shouldn't matter on health. The process is pretty much reversible which is why you can recharge it after draining. The only reason batteries die is because this process isn't perfect, and sometimes chemical pollutants form. In this case the current and time variation shouldn't provide a better battery health either way. For best battery health simply drain the whole way down before charging it. Charging it when its not completely empty tends to make it die faster. (Chem major here)
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Great answer! And what about letting the phone plugued in at 100%? Like a whole night? I've heard so much things, some says "it's better to always charge it a little when you can because it is bad if it reaches 0%". I know it's a chemical reaction and I know the internal resistor gets altered over time providing less efficient charge/decharge. When the phone closes it is because not enough power comes out of the battery, but the reaction is still there and by pluguing it we revive it.. right? That would make sense to me. That would mean that there isn't a charging habit killing the battery life more than another?

DarkFranX said:
Alright thanks for this clarification! Then the best would be to always do full discharge/charge cycle?
Great answer! And what about letting the phone plugued in at 100%? Like a whole night? I've heard so much things, some says "it's better to always charge it a little when you can because it is bad if it reaches 0%". I know it's a chemical reaction and I know the internal resistor gets altered over time providing less efficient charge/decharge. When the phone closes it is because not enough power comes out of the battery, but the reaction is still there and by pluguing it we revive it.. right? That would make sense to me. That would mean that there isn't a charging habit killing the battery life more than another?
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I generally like to unplug when full. The reason being, when it gets to 100% it discharges to 99% and the back to 100% it charges. Now in all reality you won't notice any of this battery dying with current gen li-ion batteries unless you keep a battery for like 2 years of use. But then you can always replace it. Bottom line is its not really worth worrying about. I don't know why people say letting it go to 0% is bad. The less repetitive charging, the better, this means letting it go from 100 to 0 as often as possible.
TL;DR it doesn't matter, your battery will outlive your new phone cycle

Thanks a lot for those clear answers!
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New battery how long do I charge initially?

Just like the topic says I just want to know how long should I initially charge the battery and how would I go about doing that if I don't have just a battery charger? It's a stock oem battery I just got from eBay and it didn't come with any instructions so I'm trying to figure out the discharge and charge instructions also so I don't fry this battery
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No special steps necessary.

right. plug it in like normal. Some say to discharge oob, then charge all the way. i personally just let it drain 1-2%, then plug in and charge full uninterrupted.
www.batteryuniversity.com if yoh want to research for yourself.
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DocHoliday77 said:
right. plug it in like normal. Some say to discharge oob, then charge all the way. i personally just let it drain 1-2%, then plug in and charge full uninterrupted.
www.batteryuniversity.com if yoh want to research for yourself.
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Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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RedJack117 said:
Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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Yes That's correct steps. Anytime bellow 10 % is good time to charge. Do try to wait till its 100 % before unplugging though. Lithum Ion has only so many Cycles.

RedJack117 said:
Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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What I meant was I just let it drop by 1-2%, not to that point. Imo on first charge there's just not a need to do a full discharge like some say. But when I plug it in I leave it alone till ready. Then first cycle I drop to 5-10% and charge fully once more. After that it doesn't really matter. (That first full cycle is just habit for me. I don't believe it's necessary though.)
Li ion batteries are much more forgiving than people think. Lots of incorrect rumors and info out there. That's why I suggested that link earlier.

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What I meant was I just let it drop by 1-2%, not to that point. Imo on first charge there's just not a need to do a full discharge like some say. But when I plug it in I leave it alone till ready. Then first cycle I drop to 5-10% and charge fully once more. After that it doesn't really matter. (That first full cycle is just habit for me. I don't believe it's necessary though.)
Li ion batteries are much more forgiving than people think. Lots of incorrect rumors and info out there. That's why I suggested that link earlier.
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Ah I understand... I just want the longest out of my battery but now I'm debating on what phone to get for black Friday! Anyway thank you for the help I feel like discharging it completely and charging it completely is the way to go instead of plugging it in here and there.
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I haven't bothered with following any guidelines in a long time, and after a year and a half my battery was still running strong.

RedJack117 said:
Anyway thank you for the help I feel like discharging it completely and charging it completely is the way to go instead of plugging it in here and there.
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Do note, if you drain 100 % or nearly there then after you plug in, the phone won't turn on for first 20 minutes or so. It will start afterwards.

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I haven't bothered with following any guidelines in a long time, and after a year and a half my battery was still running strong.
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Do note, if you drain 100 % or nearly there then after you plug in, the phone won't turn on for first 20 minutes or so. It will start afterwards.
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Aright thank you both... I try not to use the phone on charge anyway so that 20 minute thing is fine plus I hear it's bad for the battery and I feel like that's what caused My battery to fry in less than a year
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I personally don't even care. I just charge it whenever I want regardless of what percent, and leave it charging overnight and get 100% when I wake up. The best thing about this phone is that it has a removable battery. If my battery ever dies, I'll just buy another one.