Hey I've read on other forums about these battery calibration apps and whatnot, just want to know if anyone has used them and know if they really do work? The wife and I both have the Dinc2 and i loaded andybonestock on both of our phones.. i use my phone like crazy and she barely uses hers. i put drellis's 21 on and UV 50 and within 15 min off the charger i'm down at most to 98 battery and she's already down to 90. her battery drains rediculously faster than mine and they're both the same exact rom's and kernel specs. Will these app's actually work or is there a real/better way to get hers working better?
Use battery calibration from the market and follow the instructions to a T. Her battery could also be defective. Try the calibration first though.
that's what i'm trying to do. I have it charging right now, at 84% then im going to run it.. just wanted to know if there was any proof it worked or any other option
I left my inc2 get charge to 100% and then use the battery calibration,i notice that my battery goes down from 100% to 97% in just 5second,the battery life is good after goes to 97%,but im not sure why goes down to 97% that fast.
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I left my inc2 get charge to 100% and then use the battery calibration,i notice that my battery goes down from 100% to 97% in just 5second,the battery life is good after goes to 97%,but im not sure why goes down to 97% that fast.
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Just a heads up, that is normal, your battery will never stay at 100% it doesn't charge to 100% unless you bump charge it (and that is bad for your actual battery). Having it drop anywhere from 97% to 92% is common, after that you will notice a substantial slowdown in battery drain unless you are heavily using the phone.
I added a picture of my battery life as an example of the length I am getting from the ICS Rom I'm currently using. I have my phone oc'd to 1.4ghz and uv -25 across the board. This screenshot was taken after a day full of phone calls ranging between 3 minutes and 20 minutes, moderate browser usage, moderate facebook usage and lots of texting.
Ya I knew it wouldn't stay at 100 at all but like how mine would be at 97 after 15min and hers at 90.. it just didn't add up.. she rarely used her phone and only had about 6 hours of charge, while my battery with excessive use had enough battery to last me about 16 hours. I reset battery stats and then bump charged her phone. Now its fine
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Ya I knew it wouldn't stay at 100 at all but like how mine would be at 97 after 15min and hers at 90.. it just didn't add up.. she rarely used her phone and only had about 6 hours of charge, while my battery with excessive use had enough battery to last me about 16 hours. I reset battery stats and then bump charged her phone. Now its fine
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glad you figured it out.
careful on bump charging, it decreases the life of the battery itself everytime you do it.
I personally don't use the apps. I've had the best luck with charging to 100%, power off and charge till green light, unplug and do one more time, boot to recovery, wipe battery, power up and unplug. That's just me though.
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I personally don't use the apps. I've had the best luck with charging to 100%, power off and charge till green light, unplug and do one more time, boot to recovery, wipe battery, power up and unplug. That's just me though.
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That's what I did to remove battery stats.. read up on the app and realized its the same thing as doing it in recovery
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I personally don't use the apps. I've had the best luck with charging to 100%, power off and charge till green light, unplug and do one more time, boot to recovery, wipe battery, power up and unplug. That's just me though.
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Charging to 100% and then powering off and charging again IS bump charging, that is bad for your battery itself, it takes away life on the actual battery everytime you do it. I said this above. You may be getting an extra half hour to an hour out of your batterys life but you are decreasing the amount of times it can actually hold a charge each time you do that, therefore ruining your battery for a tiny bit of extra battery life per charge.
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Charging to 100% and then powering off and charging again IS bump charging, that is bad for your battery itself, it takes away life on the actual battery everytime you do it. I said this above. You may be getting an extra half hour to an hour out of your batterys life but you are decreasing the amount of times it can actually hold a charge each time you do that, therefore ruining your battery for a tiny bit of extra battery life per charge.
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I'm quite aware of what it IS. I also didn't say I do it every charge. I also know that some say its not good. I also know some say smoking can kill you. I also know I've done it on other devices with no problems. And I also didn't say for anyone to do it. I only said what I do and what has worked for me.
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Face Palm!
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I'm quite aware of what it IS. I also didn't say I do it every charge. I also know that some say its not good. I also know some say smoking can kill you. I also know I've done it on other devices with no problems. And I also didn't say for anyone to do it. I only said what I do and what has worked for me.
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The smoking analogy doesn't really relate, smoking can kill you but doesn't always, bump charging for a fact decreased the longevity of your battery hence shortens the time before it does not hold a charge anymore and you have to buy a new one. I made a factual comment, I did not need a condesending response.
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The smoking analogy doesn't really relate, smoking can kill you but doesn't always, bump charging for a fact decreased the longevity of your battery hence shortens the time before it does not hold a charge anymore and you have to buy a new one. I made a factual comment, I did not need a condesending response.
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*condescending
And if it's a fact, can you provide a link to a scientific study backing up your claims? If not, please don't claim that it's fact based on forum posts by other users and your own anecdotal experiences.
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Hi can anyone tell me the correct way I should go about charging the EVO when I first get it? I'm getting it tomorrow and want to break the battery in the right way (if there is a right way), let me know!
I don't see how you should go about it in a special way different than every other phone
It's a LiIon battery as all of them, none basicaly needs to be cycled to work efficiently.
Or was this your own way to broadcast that you're getting the device tomorrow to let the rest of us drool in envy?
I definatly will say that the first few charges of the battery do NOT last long at all, battery drains REALLY fast.
This may be placebo, as I know that Android will get more efficient as the OS "settles down"
I always make sure to let it run until the device shuts off by itself before charging. Then charge to full and repeat. I try to do this 5 times, but it helps that I have a hero I can drain with, then charge and always have a full battery in my Evo.
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I don't see how you should go about it in a special way different than every other phone
It's a LiIon battery as all of them, none basicaly needs to be cycled to work efficiently.
Or was this your own way to broadcast that you're getting the device tomorrow to let the rest of us drool in envy?
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so completely drain it then charge, drain, charge, etc?
lithium ion batteries do not need conditioned ... and actually prefer to be charged frequently (or so I have read). Just do a google search for lithium ion conditioning and almost every reference says that only the older technologies need it.
It's actually the phone that needs to learn the batteries fully charged to fully drained levels. A couple of full charge-drain cycles teaches the battery meter in the phone. Same deal for notebook computer batteries.
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I don't see how you should go about it in a special way different than every other phone
It's a LiIon battery as all of them, none basicaly needs to be cycled to work efficiently.
Or was this your own way to broadcast that you're getting the device tomorrow to let the rest of us drool in envy?
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it was a way to get you guys to drool!
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It's actually the phone that needs to learn the batteries fully charged to fully drained levels. A couple of full charge-drain cycles teaches the battery meter in the phone. Same deal for notebook computer batteries.
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* Not sure if this applies to the battery in the EVO as I have never taken one apart yet ***
From what I recall most notebook (if not all) Lithium * batteries have an integrated charging / safety chip on the battery http://www.sbs-forum.org/ that maintains information about the battery level (via SMbus) and charge information. It is this chip that will report the current battery level and will disallow you to charge a battery at a certain point due to safety concerns.
What is common though is that it takes a couple of cycles for the onboard / outboard battery chip to learn the charge level which the host OS will just blindly read for the most part.
condition your battery
When you have a new cell phone battery there is a residual charge left from manufacturing..it may even say it is fully charged but it is a false reading. You need to charge the battery before you start using it for 8-12 hours. Then, use it down to about 25% and charge for another 8-12 hours. Repeat this process for the first 3-5 charges and then your battery will be conditioned.
After the initial conditioning your battery will last the longest if you do not let it run out until it dies. It is best to charge when at 25%-30% capacity.
Good luck!
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When you have a new cell phone battery there is a residual charge left from manufacturing..it may even say it is fully charged but it is a false reading. You need to charge the battery before you start using it for 8-12 hours. Then, use it down to about 25% and charge for another 8-12 hours. Repeat this process for the first 3-5 charges and then your battery will be conditioned.
After the initial conditioning your battery will last the longest if you do not let it run out until it dies. It is best to charge when at 25%-30% capacity.
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Wow. First off, thanks for resurrecting a thread that's over a year old.
Second, your post is completely wrong. Lithium ion batteries do not need to be conditioned at all. Just plug it in, let it charge, and you are good to go.
They do need conditioning
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They do need conditioning
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Says who? Lithium ion batteries do not need any conditioning.
Really cuz It took a month for my battery to get 36+ he's because I didn't charge it right ( i use sbc) when I got and with my 3d I get 24+ hrs due to battery conditioning. Say what you will my girl does the same with her iPhone and get 2 1/2 days out of it while another friend of mine didn't and her battery is dead after twelve hours... no dis respect dog but it works contrary to beliefs
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Really cuz It took a month for my battery to get 36+ he's because I didn't charge it right ( i use sbc) when I got and with my 3d I get 24+ hrs due to battery conditioning. Say what you will my girl does the same with her iPhone and get 2 1/2 days out of it while another friend of mine didn't and her battery is dead after twelve hours... no dis respect dog but it works contrary to beliefs
Conditioning works for unknown r
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Conditioning works for unknown reasons. Not for the reasons, most people say. And its true lithium ion don't have memory any more so its not nearly as effective to condition. Also where are you getting those results? Those are f***ing insane
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Conditioning works for unknown reasons. Not for the reasons, most people say. And its true lithium ion don't have memory any more so its not nearly as effective to condition. Also where are you getting those results? Those are f***ing insane
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Results for the Evo? I use a 2600 mah sprint battery and when I use an eBay battery 3500 mah I get 14hrs max ( weird but it was only $15 for 2)... gonna try seidio next and see how they work... and w the 3d I ( also the 4g) I charge til green then unplug and plug til green ten times as suggested by xda thread that was on miui website only
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Use the search please..calibration methods are tried and true..nothing more to see here..let this thread die as the other poster indicated.
Search for battery calibration. I would copy and past the url's for you but I literally found 10+ threads about calibration methods for the EVO within seconds so it will be super easy for you to read one of the methods and apply for what we now see as perfect results.
As far as I know now, nobody complains about EVO battery life anymore unless they are using something to drain the power, bad coded app, kernel or poorly coded ROM etc. It happens sometimes but usually enough information out there to support fixing the issues once you see them.
Hope that helps and good luck..
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Use the search please..calibration methods are tried and true..nothing more to see here..let this thread die as the other poster indicated.
Search for battery calibration. I would copy and past the url's for you but I literally found 10+ threads about calibration methods for the EVO within seconds so it will be super easy for you to read one of the methods and apply for what we now see as perfect results.
As far as I know now, nobody complains about EVO battery life anymore unless they are using something to drain the power, bad coded app, kernel or poorly coded ROM etc. It happens sometimes but usually enough information out there to support fixing the issues once you see them.
Hope that helps and good luck..
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Thank you!
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I just received my seidio 3500 extended battery and extended rugged case. What's the best way to charge it using the stock phone charger? I've seen alot and most reviews and threads recommend external charger. I don't want to have to deal with that and shell out more money. I don't remember the link but I've also seen how your supposed to charge while on till full then unplug, turn off the phone then charge while off for an hour turn back on for 2 minutes while unplugged again then charge again for another hour while turned off again. I'm new to the evo and extended batteries so any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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I charged mine up til it was 100%, then monitored the battery widget. It kept going at waveform like this for another hour and a half - /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ - however as time went on, the peaks would be at lower and lower amplitudes. Eventually, the charging current decreased significantly, and there was an occasional spike every 5-10 min. At that point, I turned it off and let it charge for another hr or so. Rebooted (while still plugged in) into recovery, wiped battery stats, then rebooted to the desktop. Once the phone was fully booted, I unplugged.
I can get a good 2 days with light usage, or a solid 1 day with heavy. There after, I charge it til green, then give it another 1.5-2 hrs more - You can tell by the battery widget when it actually stops charging.
Note, i'm not using an SBC based kernel.
What battery widget are you using?
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I just received my seidio 3500 extended battery and extended rugged case. What's the best way to charge it using the stock phone charger? I've seen alot and most reviews and threads recommend external charger. I don't want to have to deal with that and shell out more money. I don't remember the link but I've also seen how your supposed to charge while on till full then unplug, turn off the phone then charge while off for an hour turn back on for 2 minutes while unplugged again then charge again for another hour while turned off again. I'm new to the evo and extended batteries so any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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It's all bull man you dont really need an external charger. When I was in the process of getting my 3500 mah I was also preocuppied about the external charger, however I began to use and you really dont need it.
Just understand that when the 100% sign comes up and the green light turns on it's not really charged all the way, the phone can only recognize upto 1500 mah..if I remember correctly. You have to leave the phone plugged in for another hour or so for it to actually get it's full charge.
Even then, it will seem like it is not working because the battery will go from 100 to 90 in around 5 minutes ITS CRAZY!! But dont worry thats a fault on HTC's part. After that 90% mark the phone will have really good battery life. I usually get around 15 hours of heavy usage, extremely heavy trust me! If you just use it for phone calls and dont really use GPS and stuff you should get maybe a day and a half.
So dont worry about the external charger, it's not true. What I did when I first got the battery I charged it 100% let it drain all the way and then recharged it. This is just so the phone understand the capacity of the new battery. At first it may seem a bit "iffy" but dont worry it'll live upto it's potential.
Hope this helps. Later!
Thanks obloivior72,
I'm going to charge it up now and try it.
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Just remember let it sit for another hour after it says it's full, Actually leave it for 2 just to be safe. I can't emphasize this enough! Glad I was able to be of some help! Enjoy your new battery.
Graph looks something like this.
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Each tick mark on the X axis is 10 minutes. It took about 2 hrs to get the battery from 20% to 100%, then another good 90 minutes to really complete the charge (light green during this time).
Im using an SBC kernel. Its a little bit taboo on these forums right now but if you can get your hands one one it will def do the trick without jumping through hoops. Just read up on it first. Search the forums and do some reading about it before flashing. There's a lot of conflicting opinions on both sides about it so read about it then you decide.
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I looked into the sbc kernels but with the bad info and everything I cant make the jump. I charged for 2 hours after full so I'm going to test it now till it dies while running calkulins 1.7.7. I'll let everyone know how it goes. I appreciate all the tips. Hopefully this makes my evo complete.
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So far 18 1/2 hours unplugged with med usage and still 62% battery left.
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So far 18 1/2 hours unplugged with med usage and still 62% battery left.
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WHOA!!!! I told you!!! Thats awesome bro, congrats!
I'm stoked. Now I don't have to always take my charger with me.
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This is what Seido told me to do if it isn't charging adequately:
"Please try to fully drain the battery until the phone completely shuts off automatically and then charge with the OEM AC charger that came with your device. Repeat this process 3 consecutive times. This will recondition and also recycle battery usage for best performance.
Thank you,
Seidoonline Technical Support"
However, doing this when the battery is new really doesn't do any good. It would be useful after some time using it since these are "smart batteries".
Just charge it normally and should be good to go.
Fully charged my LTE Nexus while it was on and then fully charged while it was off. Restarted the phone, haven't done anything with it in 30 mins and it's already down 4% to 96%. What's the deal?!?!?
Someone said in another thread... if you look at your Android System usage in the battery meter, its way too high... sounds like a bug - apparently a custom kernel has fixed this, but I havent rooted yet to test it.
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Fully charged my LTE Nexus while it was on and then fully charged while it was off. Restarted the phone, haven't done anything with it in 30 mins and it's already down 4% to 96%. What's the deal?!?!?
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Check here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387243
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Although I prefer the GN, laptopmag.com found that the Rezound and RAZR have clear advantages when it comes to web surfing time on 4G. GSM GN wasn't too impressive either.
"On the LAPTOP Battery Test (web surfing over 4G on 40-percent brightness), the Galaxy Nexus lasted just 3 hours and 40 minutes. That's a full 3 hours less than the smartphone average (6:38), and about 1:20 less than the unlocked Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile's network. By comparison, the HTC Rezound lasted 5:03 and the Droid RAZR lasted 4:48. Verizon Nexus owners may want to turn off 4G when they don't really need it or find other ways to conserve juice."
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-nexus-verizon-wireless.aspx
After just a couple days mine is doing just fine. I'm at 18 hours right now with 23% left. You have to condition the battery always.
Mine did the same thing as they always do. I only got 4 hours first full charge. After 2 more full cycles it's great!
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After just a couple days mine is doing just fine. I'm at 18 hours right now with 23% left. You have to condition the battery always.
Mine did the same thing as they always do. I only got 4 hours first full charge. After 2 more full cycles it's great!
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I forget this every time I get a new phone!! It's odd considering I load roms very, very frequently on whatever phone I have at the time and I know I have to wait a couple of battery cycles for battery life to get acceptable with any new rom, but I can't seem to remember it with a new phone!
I'm going to chill and wait and see.
Also, let it die completely and then charge it up 100000% (leave it charging overnight if you can). This is a good way to "train" the battery.
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I forget this every time I get a new phone!! It's odd considering I load roms very, very frequently on whatever phone I have at the time and I know I have to wait a couple of battery cycles for battery life to get acceptable with any new rom, but I can't seem to remember it with a new phone!
I'm going to chill and wait and see.
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Oh yeah, that will work for you. Mine is up to 20 hours now and 14% left.
20 hours of standby show me screen time 3 hours of screen time it's really bad
Im at 39% with around 2:55 screen on... I am on wifi right now though
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For me that's bad 3 hours damm
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Also, let it die completely and then charge it up 100000% (leave it charging overnight if you can). This is a good way to "train" the battery.
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Do NOT do this whatever you do. You should never completely drain a Li-Ion battery except when calibrating it after flashing a rom. Draining li-ion batteries hurts its battery life.
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For me that's bad 3 hours damm
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How much u get?
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Do NOT do this whatever you do. You should never completely drain a Li-Ion battery except when calibrating it after flashing a rom. Draining li-ion batteries hurts its battery life.
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Ok, so should he do it or not? You say not to unless you're calibrating.
Well, that's what the other poster is talking about. "training" = calibrating.
It doesn't harm a thing letting them drain all the way to the point of the phone shutting down. I've been doing this for all my phones, new roms, etc. I always end up with excellent battery life.
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It doesn't harm a thing letting them drain all the way to the point of the phone shutting down. I've been doing this for all my phones, new roms, etc. I always end up with excellent battery life.
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Sorry, but you are wrong.
Deep discharges do "harm" a LiIon battery physically (there is damage done to the membranes in the battery at a molecular level).
You will get about ~500 full (deep) discharges from your battery, but you will get more than double of that if you only discharge to 50% and more if you discharge even less. So the best thing is to charge your LiIon cell as often as possible, with the exception that it's also not healthy for the cell to be at full charge voltage (4.20 V) for a prolonged time either.
Yikes. You people with good battery life are lucky haha. I'm on my 6th charge and I still get around an hour and forty minutes of battery life. I'm at like 50% after an hour or so... and that's with LTE off too...
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This thread is redundant, please continue the conversation in one of the older battery life threads.
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Does the battery go to 99% for you guys instantly? seems like mine does, as soon as i unplug it goes to 99%, just wondering if its normal or just my phone, because on my galaxy s II i would get like 30 minutes of no drain, like it would stay at 100 for a while, while this phone is like as soon as i unplug the battery is already down to 99.
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Does the battery go to 99% for you guys instantly? seems like mine does, as soon as i unplug it goes to 99%, just wondering if its normal or just my phone, because on my galaxy s II i would get like 30 minutes of no drain, like it would stay at 100 for a while, while this phone is like as soon as i unplug the battery is already down to 99.
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Calibrate it
Mine stays on 100% for a good half an hour or so too
what is the easiest way to calibrate it? any links.. my GNEX will go 99% instantly too but overall battery drain is awesome
my battery life is TERRIBLE on this thing, it drains like crazy.. i want to calibrate it super badly but im not rooted, so i cant delete batt stats.bin , i even let it drain last night completely charged it again while it was off..still same terrible battery life. its a shame because i really really love this phone.
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Calibrate it
Mine stays on 100% for a good half an hour or so too
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I'm sorry but that sounds like badly calibrated battery. Lithium-ion Batteries are -never- 100% except for a very brief moment.
It is natural that your phone displays 97%-99% when unplugged (or even when still plugged in). Batteries protect themselves like this, because these batteries cannot be charged while they are full, they will stop charging the very moment you hit 100%.
Generally you don't want your battery to be above 90% for a extended amount of time, that much voltage/capacity speeds up the degradation of the cells. So actually you should be happy, because your battery will have a longer life.
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Generally you don't want your battery to be above 90% for a extended amount of time, that much voltage/capacity speeds up the degradation of the cells. So actually you should be happy, because your battery will have a longer life.
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Where are you getting this from? Doesn't make sense.
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Where are you getting this from? Doesn't make sense.
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He's technically correct. LiIon batteries are happiest around 60-70% charge level. However given that your actively using a cell phone battery and your not storing it at high charge its OK.
If you really want to learn more about Lithium tech I can link you to a forum where people are VERY serious about this stuff and use them for high powered lights.
This is a known design "feature."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
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Hello I was wondering what is the optimal way to charge the s3? With wall charger or in comp? Should I let it plugued more after it says "Charged(100%)"?
I have a Zerolemon 7100mAh
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I just picked up a Zero Lemon 2300 and still trying to figure out best way. The instructions they give you just dont make sense to me
They make it looks kinda simple but how can we be sure the battery is really fully charged or decharged etc..
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They make it looks kinda simple but how can we be sure the battery is really fully charged or decharged etc..
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Exactly. Plus every time I read someones post on how they did it its always different.
My first battery charge I did what they said. Charged for 12 hours with phone off. Ran it down to 1% and then recharged. Left it on charger for about half hour-hour past full charge. Did the 5 recharge cycles.
Think second battery I may install and run down to 1% before fully charging. My batteries came in with about 56% charge. I dont see why they would need to be charged for 12 hours like that
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Hello I was wondering what is the optimal way to charge the s3? With wall charger or in comp? Should I let it plugued more after it says "Charged(100%)"?
I have a Zerolemon 7100mAh
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fastest should always be wall charger since it has higher current than your usb port in your computer will output, especially if you don't have fast charge enabled (root and rom support required for fast charge).
TL;DR use a wall charger
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fastest should always be wall charger since it has higher current than your usb port in your computer will output, especially if you don't have fast charge enabled (root and rom support required for fast charge).
TL;DR use a wall charger
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Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
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Exactly. Plus every time I read someones post on how they did it its always different.
My first battery charge I did what they said. Charged for 12 hours with phone off. Ran it down to 1% and then recharged. Left it on charger for about half hour-hour past full charge. Did the 5 recharge cycles.
Think second battery I may install and run down to 1% before fully charging. My batteries came in with about 56% charge. I dont see why they would need to be charged for 12 hours like that
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Same thing here.. But i think we should have used it all to 1% BEFORE the first charge.. Doesnt it make more sense?
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DarkFranX said:
Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
Same thing here.. But i think we should have used it all to 1% BEFORE the first charge.. Doesnt it make more sense?
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That makes sense to me. I posted on their Facebook page asking for clarification on charging steps. And asked about draining it first before first charge
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DarkFranX said:
Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
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Chemically speaking, the speed variation of the reaction shouldn't matter on health. The process is pretty much reversible which is why you can recharge it after draining. The only reason batteries die is because this process isn't perfect, and sometimes chemical pollutants form. In this case the current and time variation shouldn't provide a better battery health either way. For best battery health simply drain the whole way down before charging it. Charging it when its not completely empty tends to make it die faster. (Chem major here)
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DarkFranX said:
Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
Same thing here.. But i think we should have used it all to 1% BEFORE the first charge.. Doesnt it make more sense?
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OK here's the reply I got
Rami Mubasher
For best results we ask that customers let the items die down to 1-4% before your first charge. Leave the battery charging for 12 hours if you are able to. Then repeat this cycling 4-5 times. This will yield the best results the quickest. Hope this helps.
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jasvncnt1 said:
OK here's the reply I got
Rami Mubasher
For best results we ask that customers let the items die down to 1-4% before your first charge. Leave the battery charging for 12 hours if you are able to. Then repeat this cycling 4-5 times. This will yield the best results the quickest. Hope this helps.
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Alright thanks for this clarification! Then the best would be to always do full discharge/charge cycle?
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Chemically speaking, the speed variation of the reaction shouldn't matter on health. The process is pretty much reversible which is why you can recharge it after draining. The only reason batteries die is because this process isn't perfect, and sometimes chemical pollutants form. In this case the current and time variation shouldn't provide a better battery health either way. For best battery health simply drain the whole way down before charging it. Charging it when its not completely empty tends to make it die faster. (Chem major here)
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Great answer! And what about letting the phone plugued in at 100%? Like a whole night? I've heard so much things, some says "it's better to always charge it a little when you can because it is bad if it reaches 0%". I know it's a chemical reaction and I know the internal resistor gets altered over time providing less efficient charge/decharge. When the phone closes it is because not enough power comes out of the battery, but the reaction is still there and by pluguing it we revive it.. right? That would make sense to me. That would mean that there isn't a charging habit killing the battery life more than another?
DarkFranX said:
Alright thanks for this clarification! Then the best would be to always do full discharge/charge cycle?
Great answer! And what about letting the phone plugued in at 100%? Like a whole night? I've heard so much things, some says "it's better to always charge it a little when you can because it is bad if it reaches 0%". I know it's a chemical reaction and I know the internal resistor gets altered over time providing less efficient charge/decharge. When the phone closes it is because not enough power comes out of the battery, but the reaction is still there and by pluguing it we revive it.. right? That would make sense to me. That would mean that there isn't a charging habit killing the battery life more than another?
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I generally like to unplug when full. The reason being, when it gets to 100% it discharges to 99% and the back to 100% it charges. Now in all reality you won't notice any of this battery dying with current gen li-ion batteries unless you keep a battery for like 2 years of use. But then you can always replace it. Bottom line is its not really worth worrying about. I don't know why people say letting it go to 0% is bad. The less repetitive charging, the better, this means letting it go from 100 to 0 as often as possible.
TL;DR it doesn't matter, your battery will outlive your new phone cycle
Thanks a lot for those clear answers!
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