Ok I got a new extended battery what souls I do to condition it so my phone will charge to to 100%
I'm in rooted so can't wipe battery stats
Also is there a way to check its capacity so I know its fully charged
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Since you aren't rooted, best you can do is:
-Charge to 100%
-Let the phone die, so its manually turns off
-Charge back to 100%, use as normal
And not really...
Aww, c'mon Roxx, you know that's not the way. Even HTC says don't let your battery die.
Let it drop to under about 50%, then charge for 8 hrs, while off. Unplug, boot up let it settle in for a few mins, then power down and charge for another hour.
Then boot up.
That's the best for unrooted phones.
I just feel odd about killing batteries and anything 4 my 2nd question good app to monitor my battery......most don't have good info
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Aww, c'mon Roxx, you know that's not the way. Even HTC says don't let your battery die.
Let it drop to under about 50%, then charge for 8 hrs, while off. Unplug, boot up let it settle in for a few mins, then power down and charge for another hour.
Then boot up.
That's the best for unrooted phones.
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Well it gives the lithium batteries the best chance to discharge, then started the process over. Continued practice of that is bad, but for 1 power cycle, it is okay. Though through normal usage, you should charge it whenever it gets low
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I just feel odd about killing batteries and anything 4 my 2nd question good app to monitor my battery......most don't have good info
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Battery Moniter Widget is the best, and I don't think you need be rooted for it.
Rexx, I agree that doing it once may not be bad, but I say why take chances, ya know?
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Battery Moniter Widget is the best, and I don't think you need be rooted for it.
Rexx, I agree that doing it once may not be bad, but I say why take chances, ya know?
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Yea a good app for non rooted phones.
And well fair enough, especially for those less experienced.
This was posted awhile ago on the xda EVO 4G forum and it seemed to work for me.
1) turn ON Phone & charge for 8 hrs.
then
2) unplug charger - turn OFF phone & charge another hour (1)
then
3) unplug charger - turn phone ON, wait (2) minutes then,
turn OFF phone & charge another hour (1).
Your battery has been set and your battery time should be doubled.
This as per HTC​
I have also found that using the app: Juicedefender
works great even with its default settings.
Good Luck...
I'm a moderate user the norm battery would last me from 2 am to about 1 pm I work nights
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I just received my seidio 3500 extended battery and extended rugged case. What's the best way to charge it using the stock phone charger? I've seen alot and most reviews and threads recommend external charger. I don't want to have to deal with that and shell out more money. I don't remember the link but I've also seen how your supposed to charge while on till full then unplug, turn off the phone then charge while off for an hour turn back on for 2 minutes while unplugged again then charge again for another hour while turned off again. I'm new to the evo and extended batteries so any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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I charged mine up til it was 100%, then monitored the battery widget. It kept going at waveform like this for another hour and a half - /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ - however as time went on, the peaks would be at lower and lower amplitudes. Eventually, the charging current decreased significantly, and there was an occasional spike every 5-10 min. At that point, I turned it off and let it charge for another hr or so. Rebooted (while still plugged in) into recovery, wiped battery stats, then rebooted to the desktop. Once the phone was fully booted, I unplugged.
I can get a good 2 days with light usage, or a solid 1 day with heavy. There after, I charge it til green, then give it another 1.5-2 hrs more - You can tell by the battery widget when it actually stops charging.
Note, i'm not using an SBC based kernel.
What battery widget are you using?
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I just received my seidio 3500 extended battery and extended rugged case. What's the best way to charge it using the stock phone charger? I've seen alot and most reviews and threads recommend external charger. I don't want to have to deal with that and shell out more money. I don't remember the link but I've also seen how your supposed to charge while on till full then unplug, turn off the phone then charge while off for an hour turn back on for 2 minutes while unplugged again then charge again for another hour while turned off again. I'm new to the evo and extended batteries so any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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It's all bull man you dont really need an external charger. When I was in the process of getting my 3500 mah I was also preocuppied about the external charger, however I began to use and you really dont need it.
Just understand that when the 100% sign comes up and the green light turns on it's not really charged all the way, the phone can only recognize upto 1500 mah..if I remember correctly. You have to leave the phone plugged in for another hour or so for it to actually get it's full charge.
Even then, it will seem like it is not working because the battery will go from 100 to 90 in around 5 minutes ITS CRAZY!! But dont worry thats a fault on HTC's part. After that 90% mark the phone will have really good battery life. I usually get around 15 hours of heavy usage, extremely heavy trust me! If you just use it for phone calls and dont really use GPS and stuff you should get maybe a day and a half.
So dont worry about the external charger, it's not true. What I did when I first got the battery I charged it 100% let it drain all the way and then recharged it. This is just so the phone understand the capacity of the new battery. At first it may seem a bit "iffy" but dont worry it'll live upto it's potential.
Hope this helps. Later!
Thanks obloivior72,
I'm going to charge it up now and try it.
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Just remember let it sit for another hour after it says it's full, Actually leave it for 2 just to be safe. I can't emphasize this enough! Glad I was able to be of some help! Enjoy your new battery.
Graph looks something like this.
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Each tick mark on the X axis is 10 minutes. It took about 2 hrs to get the battery from 20% to 100%, then another good 90 minutes to really complete the charge (light green during this time).
Im using an SBC kernel. Its a little bit taboo on these forums right now but if you can get your hands one one it will def do the trick without jumping through hoops. Just read up on it first. Search the forums and do some reading about it before flashing. There's a lot of conflicting opinions on both sides about it so read about it then you decide.
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I looked into the sbc kernels but with the bad info and everything I cant make the jump. I charged for 2 hours after full so I'm going to test it now till it dies while running calkulins 1.7.7. I'll let everyone know how it goes. I appreciate all the tips. Hopefully this makes my evo complete.
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So far 18 1/2 hours unplugged with med usage and still 62% battery left.
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So far 18 1/2 hours unplugged with med usage and still 62% battery left.
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WHOA!!!! I told you!!! Thats awesome bro, congrats!
I'm stoked. Now I don't have to always take my charger with me.
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This is what Seido told me to do if it isn't charging adequately:
"Please try to fully drain the battery until the phone completely shuts off automatically and then charge with the OEM AC charger that came with your device. Repeat this process 3 consecutive times. This will recondition and also recycle battery usage for best performance.
Thank you,
Seidoonline Technical Support"
However, doing this when the battery is new really doesn't do any good. It would be useful after some time using it since these are "smart batteries".
Just charge it normally and should be good to go.
Hey I've read on other forums about these battery calibration apps and whatnot, just want to know if anyone has used them and know if they really do work? The wife and I both have the Dinc2 and i loaded andybonestock on both of our phones.. i use my phone like crazy and she barely uses hers. i put drellis's 21 on and UV 50 and within 15 min off the charger i'm down at most to 98 battery and she's already down to 90. her battery drains rediculously faster than mine and they're both the same exact rom's and kernel specs. Will these app's actually work or is there a real/better way to get hers working better?
Use battery calibration from the market and follow the instructions to a T. Her battery could also be defective. Try the calibration first though.
that's what i'm trying to do. I have it charging right now, at 84% then im going to run it.. just wanted to know if there was any proof it worked or any other option
I left my inc2 get charge to 100% and then use the battery calibration,i notice that my battery goes down from 100% to 97% in just 5second,the battery life is good after goes to 97%,but im not sure why goes down to 97% that fast.
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I left my inc2 get charge to 100% and then use the battery calibration,i notice that my battery goes down from 100% to 97% in just 5second,the battery life is good after goes to 97%,but im not sure why goes down to 97% that fast.
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Just a heads up, that is normal, your battery will never stay at 100% it doesn't charge to 100% unless you bump charge it (and that is bad for your actual battery). Having it drop anywhere from 97% to 92% is common, after that you will notice a substantial slowdown in battery drain unless you are heavily using the phone.
I added a picture of my battery life as an example of the length I am getting from the ICS Rom I'm currently using. I have my phone oc'd to 1.4ghz and uv -25 across the board. This screenshot was taken after a day full of phone calls ranging between 3 minutes and 20 minutes, moderate browser usage, moderate facebook usage and lots of texting.
Ya I knew it wouldn't stay at 100 at all but like how mine would be at 97 after 15min and hers at 90.. it just didn't add up.. she rarely used her phone and only had about 6 hours of charge, while my battery with excessive use had enough battery to last me about 16 hours. I reset battery stats and then bump charged her phone. Now its fine
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Ya I knew it wouldn't stay at 100 at all but like how mine would be at 97 after 15min and hers at 90.. it just didn't add up.. she rarely used her phone and only had about 6 hours of charge, while my battery with excessive use had enough battery to last me about 16 hours. I reset battery stats and then bump charged her phone. Now its fine
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glad you figured it out.
careful on bump charging, it decreases the life of the battery itself everytime you do it.
I personally don't use the apps. I've had the best luck with charging to 100%, power off and charge till green light, unplug and do one more time, boot to recovery, wipe battery, power up and unplug. That's just me though.
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I personally don't use the apps. I've had the best luck with charging to 100%, power off and charge till green light, unplug and do one more time, boot to recovery, wipe battery, power up and unplug. That's just me though.
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That's what I did to remove battery stats.. read up on the app and realized its the same thing as doing it in recovery
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CondemnedSoul said:
I personally don't use the apps. I've had the best luck with charging to 100%, power off and charge till green light, unplug and do one more time, boot to recovery, wipe battery, power up and unplug. That's just me though.
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Charging to 100% and then powering off and charging again IS bump charging, that is bad for your battery itself, it takes away life on the actual battery everytime you do it. I said this above. You may be getting an extra half hour to an hour out of your batterys life but you are decreasing the amount of times it can actually hold a charge each time you do that, therefore ruining your battery for a tiny bit of extra battery life per charge.
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Charging to 100% and then powering off and charging again IS bump charging, that is bad for your battery itself, it takes away life on the actual battery everytime you do it. I said this above. You may be getting an extra half hour to an hour out of your batterys life but you are decreasing the amount of times it can actually hold a charge each time you do that, therefore ruining your battery for a tiny bit of extra battery life per charge.
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I'm quite aware of what it IS. I also didn't say I do it every charge. I also know that some say its not good. I also know some say smoking can kill you. I also know I've done it on other devices with no problems. And I also didn't say for anyone to do it. I only said what I do and what has worked for me.
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Face Palm!
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I'm quite aware of what it IS. I also didn't say I do it every charge. I also know that some say its not good. I also know some say smoking can kill you. I also know I've done it on other devices with no problems. And I also didn't say for anyone to do it. I only said what I do and what has worked for me.
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The smoking analogy doesn't really relate, smoking can kill you but doesn't always, bump charging for a fact decreased the longevity of your battery hence shortens the time before it does not hold a charge anymore and you have to buy a new one. I made a factual comment, I did not need a condesending response.
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The smoking analogy doesn't really relate, smoking can kill you but doesn't always, bump charging for a fact decreased the longevity of your battery hence shortens the time before it does not hold a charge anymore and you have to buy a new one. I made a factual comment, I did not need a condesending response.
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*condescending
And if it's a fact, can you provide a link to a scientific study backing up your claims? If not, please don't claim that it's fact based on forum posts by other users and your own anecdotal experiences.
Thanks!
My battery goes from 100% to 66% right after pulling the cord when it finishes charging. How do I fix this?
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I have to charge my battery again to make it work right but it happens almost every day
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Calibrated and no help!
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Calibrated and no help!
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Try booting into CWM and clear battery stats, restart your phone, run your phone until the battery is so low it shuts off. Then plug the phone in, turn it on, put it in airplane mode and let it charge to 100%.
At thus point use it as normal but let the battery die one or two more times before charging it again. This should give your phone a nice solid calibration.
Good luck!
Just to add on to that one idea would be pull the batt. Five minutes should do it...when u restart what it reads will be "true". Some Roms have battery saving scripts and when you switch they take a min to go away while dalvik resets...leading to a rude awakening...lol
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Gonna give my input. I was having a similiar problem. Battery draining like crazy. Dropping from 99 to 80 in like 30 mins of use. Finally got fed up and decided to go to a sprint repair and service center. Turns out the battery was shot to hell. Bloated. So they gave me a OG epic battery for the mean time and ordered me a new oem one. Free of charge with TEP Picking it up tuesday. Been using this OG epic battery and altough it does have less capacity it defiantly is draining more slowely. So try it out have them inspect yours.
I agree with "rwilco12"
Try booting into CWM and clear battery stats, restart your phone, run your phone until the battery is so low it shuts off. Then plug the phone in, turn it on, put it in airplane mode and let it charge to 100%.
This worked for me...
I'll try these suggestions. Thanks!
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Guys
I have been having the same problem and try lots of things but what I did not try and just found out is that my phone has a 1500mHa instead off a 1800mHa Sprint store made a mistake and placed the wrong battery inside my phone.
Maybe some of the problems you guys are having is due to that fact.
Besides opening the phone there are several app that will actually tell you which battery you have I.E. Battery Monitor
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Guys
I have been having the same problem and try lots of things but what I did not try and just found out is that my phone has a 1500mHa instead off a 1800mHa Sprint store made a mistake and placed the wrong battery inside my phone.
Maybe some of the problems you guys are having is due to that fact.
Besides opening the phone there are several app that will actually tell you which battery you have I.E. Battery Monitor
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I just downloaded that battery monitor and it said I have a 1500MAH battery too so I called sprint went down and got a new battery and when I opened my phone to put the new one in it turns out the one I have is a 1800 so I would not put much stock into what that Battery Monitor app says but hell I just got a free spare battery so it was still a win!
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I just downloaded that battery monitor and it said I have a 1500MAH battery too so I called sprint went down and got a new battery and when I opened my phone to put the new one in it turns out the one I have is a 1800 so I would not put much stock into what that Battery Monitor app says but hell I just got a free spare battery so it was still a win!
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That app is set to 1500 by default. However, I do remember seeing a thread here and on AC about several of our phones that were shipped with the 1500 battery by mistake
I have 1800 and the method with the airplane mode worked
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Hey guys! Just gotten my note 2, and gonna drain the battery down soon, should I plug it in and charge for 8 hours straight from zero? Should this be done with the phone off? Or this doesn't matter anymore?
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Doesn't matter anymore...
I usually do it. Zedomax recommends it, and it doesn't hurt anything to do so.
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Is it alright I do it with the power on?
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This is not needed anymore.
if the battery takes to long to kill then simply its already calibrated
many people don't know how a none-calibrated battery acts and think "battery life is great but it will get better later!"
if anyone of you happened to have a nokia phone in year 2000ish and still have it around i recommend you to go get a replacement battery for it and see for your self
unless the new battery jumps from 100% down to like 80/70% in no time then take too long to drain from 10% or something like that (in short battery acting weird)
then its already calibrated which is the case in all new phones/batteries
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unless the battery is acting weird and not taking too long to kill then you dont need to do that
Hell Guardian said:
This is not needed anymore.
if the battery takes to long to kill then simply its already calibrated
many people don't know how a none-calibrated battery acts and think "battery life is great but it will get better later!"
if anyone of you happened to have a nokia phone in year 2000ish and still have it around i recommend you to go get a replacement battery for it and see for your self
unless the new battery jumps from 100% down to like 80/70% in no time then take too long to drain from 10% or something like that (in short battery acting weird)
then its already calibrated which is the case in all new phones/batteries
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unless the battery is acting weird and not taking too long to kill then you dont need to do that
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Thanks a lot I got my retail set from a carrier, so glad to have joined the note 2 community coming from the s3 :X so I just charge it up to full as per normal yes?
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This charging a long time first usage is also an old thing from the old nicd and nimh batteries..
in fact li-po and li-ion wont even charge after they are done, overcharging them means they explode/burn or get damaged.
there are built in safety features to prevent that.
and pulling it down to 0% means nothing since modern nimh, li-po, li-ion batteries don't got the memory effect.
actually going down to 0% would only test if the low voltage cutoff works as it should or if you damage your battery.
no need for that!
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Hey guys! Just gotten my note 2, and gonna drain the battery down soon, should I plug it in and charge for 8 hours straight from zero? Should this be done with the phone off? Or this doesn't matter anymore?
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Batteries that comes with the latestmpgones these day do not need to be charged for 8 hours!
Just charge it till its full and continue to enjoy it!
You can preserve the life of you battery by not fully charging it and you can damage it by draining completely. I've no source for this information.
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Just like the topic says I just want to know how long should I initially charge the battery and how would I go about doing that if I don't have just a battery charger? It's a stock oem battery I just got from eBay and it didn't come with any instructions so I'm trying to figure out the discharge and charge instructions also so I don't fry this battery
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No special steps necessary.
right. plug it in like normal. Some say to discharge oob, then charge all the way. i personally just let it drain 1-2%, then plug in and charge full uninterrupted.
www.batteryuniversity.com if yoh want to research for yourself.
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right. plug it in like normal. Some say to discharge oob, then charge all the way. i personally just let it drain 1-2%, then plug in and charge full uninterrupted.
www.batteryuniversity.com if yoh want to research for yourself.
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Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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Yes That's correct steps. Anytime bellow 10 % is good time to charge. Do try to wait till its 100 % before unplugging though. Lithum Ion has only so many Cycles.
RedJack117 said:
Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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What I meant was I just let it drop by 1-2%, not to that point. Imo on first charge there's just not a need to do a full discharge like some say. But when I plug it in I leave it alone till ready. Then first cycle I drop to 5-10% and charge fully once more. After that it doesn't really matter. (That first full cycle is just habit for me. I don't believe it's necessary though.)
Li ion batteries are much more forgiving than people think. Lots of incorrect rumors and info out there. That's why I suggested that link earlier.
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What I meant was I just let it drop by 1-2%, not to that point. Imo on first charge there's just not a need to do a full discharge like some say. But when I plug it in I leave it alone till ready. Then first cycle I drop to 5-10% and charge fully once more. After that it doesn't really matter. (That first full cycle is just habit for me. I don't believe it's necessary though.)
Li ion batteries are much more forgiving than people think. Lots of incorrect rumors and info out there. That's why I suggested that link earlier.
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Ah I understand... I just want the longest out of my battery but now I'm debating on what phone to get for black Friday! Anyway thank you for the help I feel like discharging it completely and charging it completely is the way to go instead of plugging it in here and there.
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I haven't bothered with following any guidelines in a long time, and after a year and a half my battery was still running strong.
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Anyway thank you for the help I feel like discharging it completely and charging it completely is the way to go instead of plugging it in here and there.
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Do note, if you drain 100 % or nearly there then after you plug in, the phone won't turn on for first 20 minutes or so. It will start afterwards.
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I haven't bothered with following any guidelines in a long time, and after a year and a half my battery was still running strong.
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Do note, if you drain 100 % or nearly there then after you plug in, the phone won't turn on for first 20 minutes or so. It will start afterwards.
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Aright thank you both... I try not to use the phone on charge anyway so that 20 minute thing is fine plus I hear it's bad for the battery and I feel like that's what caused My battery to fry in less than a year
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I personally don't even care. I just charge it whenever I want regardless of what percent, and leave it charging overnight and get 100% when I wake up. The best thing about this phone is that it has a removable battery. If my battery ever dies, I'll just buy another one.