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Droid life article on Gnex what is your opinion

I have to admit I have been a bit miffed at what Verizon has done with the Galaxy Nexus. I think it is a great phone but I think Verizon has stripped allot of what was special about being a nexus from the phone.
Apparently someone from Droid Life feels the same way. Here is their article on Verizon and the GNex
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/30/verizon-needs-google-opinion/
What are your thoughts?

This person is also wrong.. they complain about google wallet not being included but it isn't included on the GSM nexus.. it isn't part of AOSP. Also.. the only differences between Verizon and GSM include two semi useful apps that you can remove, a battery cover without Google, and no free tethering. It's not even a big deal.. most of the comments on that article bash the author anyways because he doesn't appear to know anything.
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I still think the Galaxy Nexus is the best phone out there. It just seems like it is becoming less of what I thought a Nexus was. Maybe I had the wrong impression of what a Nexus was in the first place. I am no dev, I've just had the feeling it is headed in the wrong direction... slowly

Best phone I have owned.
Compared with the htc hero , desire HD , iPhone 4 , htc sensation and log optinus 3d I have owned.
+ points :
Screen , amazing simply. Colours are bright and vibrant , text and outlines are crisp. Can really tell a difference over the other phones.
Speed. No lagg what so ever , plays gta 3 perfectly whilst listening to music . Can have a little slowness if I am using a heavy live wallpaper.
Honeycomb inspired apps are fantastic. I own a Motorola Xoom which I have been totally impressed with , the music app especially are brilliant , as well as icons and multi task bars. Having it ported over to my mobile has blown my mind.
Battery life : there has been a fair few complaints but as I posted in a battery thread mine will last a day with heavy usage (will include screen shot at the end)
Quality , granted its plastic but it feels like a premium product. Doesn't have the look of the iPhone 4 but the full glass front , no button set up gives the phone a real sleek look. Back plate is flimsy but once its on it feels well built.
Camera: decent picture quality , zero shutter lagg is great . Haven't taken that many photos so I won't comment to much.
Connectivity , GPS and Bluetooth have all worked seamlessly as expected.
Only downsides :
Apps: some are still incompatible which is annoying , its new software so I wouldn't really count this as a issue as it will be fixed.
That's it really , bought this sim free for £529.99. Was unsure and really hoped I wouldn't be disappointed after I had spent that kind of money. I am happy to report that it is the best tech purchase I have made. Well done Samsung & Google , thoroughly impressed
J
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that reporter from droid life needs to crawl out from under the rock...he is clueless!

The biggest compromise, imho, had nothing to do with Verizon, but was made by Google to Texas Instruments: the TI OMAP processor. The Samsung-made Exynos processor from the SGS2 is widely viewed as the best smartphone processor on the market, so why did Google force Samsung to compromise with the TI OMAP? Nothing against Texas Instruments (they have great products, by most accounts), but Google should have let Samsung make this phone with its own chips imho.
Yes, I definitely despise Verizon's treating of this phone as the ugly stepchild of its Android lineup (like they also did with the Fascinate), but, hey, we still have a top-shelf Samsung product on a reliable network, and with (not so reliable, but still better than HSPA) LTE to boot. Plus, it seems to me that Verizon's handling of the Gnex (and the Fascinate) is more a knock against Samsung than Google...
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skynet11 said:
The biggest compromise, imho, had nothing to do with Verizon, but was made by Google to Texas Instruments: the TI OMAP processor. The Samsung-made Exynos processor from the SGS2 is widely viewed as the best smartphone processor on the market, so why did Google force Samsung to compromise with the TI OMAP? Nothing against Texas Instruments (they have great products, by most accounts). Yes, I definitely despise Verizon's treating of this phone as the ugly stepchild of its Android lineup (like they also did with the Fascinate), but, hey, we still have a top-shelf Samsung product on a reliable network, and with (not so reliable, but still better than HSPA) LTE to boot.
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Lte is part of the reason. Exynos doesnt play nice with lte. Yet at least. And ti offers a better chipset overall than exynos mish mash of components.
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@rbiter said:
Lte is part of the reason. Exynos doesnt play nice with lte. Yet at least. And ti offers a better chipset overall than exynos mish mash of components.
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Hmmm... I learn something new every day... Thanks for pointing that out about the LTE issue Hey, maybe Samsung will have that matter resolved by the time they release the *cough cough* Continuum 2
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droidstyle said:
that reporter from droid life needs to crawl out from under the rock...he is clueless!
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Go back to covering cough cough Motorola phones, Droid Life
He is right about one thing, though... the U.S. carriers are given way too much leverage over manufacturers (on the other hand, good luck with getting that subsidized upgrade overseas ).
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Whiney article is whiney.
Maybe he should stick to teh iphonez wit da bigger gb's.

Is Verizon and the Nexus good enough to leave Sprint and my Epic 4G Touch ?
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skynet11 said:
(on the other hand, good luck with getting that subsidized upgrade overseas ).
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What do you mean by that? Subsidies in Europe are way better than the US lol. They often 100% subsidize the phone (even top-tier devices) for only a 2-year contract, and the service still costs 1/2 of what we pay in the US. AND the non-contract options are still amazing.
Don't kid yourself. We have it worse in every way here.
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Zorachus said:
Is Verizon and the Nexus good enough to leave Sprint and my Epic 4G Touch ?
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Been discussed everywhere. That's your personal call man. There are A LOT of factors, and its not worth trying to de-rail this thread to get an answer...

martonikaj said:
What do you mean by that? Subsidies in Europe are way better than the US lol. They often 100% subsidize the phone (even top-tier devices) for only a 2-year contract, and the service still costs 1/2 of what we pay in the US. AND the non-contract options are still amazing.
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Hmmm... I didn't know that... I had read before that most European carriers didn't subsidize... Two derps in a row for me today
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@rbiter said:
Lte is part of the reason. Exynos doesnt play nice with lte. Yet at least. And ti offers a better chipset overall than exynos mish mash of components.
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Exactly, that's why the T-Mobile Galaxy SII, came with a different processor, to allow their crazy 40+MB/sec modem. The Exynos wouldn't do that.
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LG Nitro HD Owners, Please Help! Do you love your phone? Upgrading - need input

So guys, simple as that. I'm upgrading soon. I am wondering if any of you would have chosen a different phone, now that you have owned the Nitro HD for quite some time. If so, what phone? I'm on AT&T btw. Some people say the A2 is nice. I'm stuck deciding. Also, does anyone know when AT&T will be releasing more phones?? Tegra 3 maybe? Also, if any AT&T insiders are about, any recollection as to when they will be dropping prices again? Thanks for all input everyone!

carpenterethan said:
So guys, simple as that. I'm upgrading soon. I am wondering if any of you would have chosen a different phone, now that you have owned the Nitro HD for quite some time. If so, what phone? I'm on AT&T btw. Some people say the A2 is nice. I'm stuck deciding. Also, does anyone know when AT&T will be releasing more phones?? Tegra 3 maybe? Also, if any AT&T insiders are about, any recolection as to when they will be dropping prices again? Thanks for all imput everyone!
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yes! this phone does the job...CM9, all i have to say!

I love the screen on this phone. The camera is good, processor is fast and CM9 nightlies are rolling out. My only complaint is the battery life could be better, especially with heavy use.
Goto BestBuy. The phone is only $50 right now and you get a FREE pair of LG Tone bluetooth headphones. It is a SWEET deal. Good luck deciding!

It will be amazing with a stable cm9. But maybe wait for the HTC One X.
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FistPie said:
I love the screen on this phone. The camera is good, processor is fast and CM9 nightlies are rolling out. My only complaint is the battery life could be better, especially with heavy use.
Goto BestBuy. The phone is only $50 right now and you get a FREE pair of LG Tone bluetooth headphones. It is a SWEET deal. Good luck deciding!
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haha, i took advantage of that deal!

Hoorah! Thanks for the heads up on the BB deal! I was going to call them, haven't had time. Sounds prettttttyyyyy tempting! HTC One X, you say? *GSMOOGLES*- DROOL 1.5ghz quad core??? Why does everything get topped in a matter of months!!! Good for people who can afford the status quo. :'( I want one now... my dreams will be haunted until I own a quad core phone now. :/ I just shelled $235.00 on an Acer A500 and I love it.... but i'll be darned if quad cores aren't about to $### on all of my current devices *FacePalm* /rant
Haha. XDA is such a loyal community.... love every moment on here.
'HTC One X Release date leak'
*** http://www.androidcentral.com/att-htc-one-x-release-date-moved-may-6-best-buy-tells-customer-e-mail ***

FistPie said:
Goto BestBuy. The phone is only $50 right now and you get a FREE pair of LG Tone bluetooth headphones. It is a SWEET deal. Good luck deciding!
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I'm guessing with a cell contract!?
If just the phone I'll drive to Buffalo tonight lol
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Flyview said:
I'm guessing with a cell contract!?
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Ohhhhyeah! This isn't metro pcs my friend ^_^
These guys have me drooling over the HTC One X now..............
Release date_ http://www.androidcentral.com/att-htc-one-x-release-date-moved-may-6-best-buy-tells-customer-e-mail _

Yes, I love my LG Nitro, But only because I flashed different ROMs into it. ( Currently Nightly #3 of CyanogenMod9)
When I had it with the stock ROM, I was having missed thoughts about it due to some lag, and bloatware, manly unused programs like Zanga Poker and some At&t software.
Thank God for XDADevelopers

Welcome friend!
Raymen864 said:
Yes, I love my LG Nitro, But only because I flashed different ROMs into it. ( Currently Nightly #3 of CyanogenMod9)
When I had it with the stock ROM, I was having missed thoughts about it due to some lag, and bloatware, manly unused programs like Zanga Poker and some At&t software.
Thank God for XDADevelopers
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On behalf of our friends here at XDA, Welcome aboard! Looks like you have found your way around!

carpenterethan said:
Hoorah! Thanks for the heads up on the BB deal! I was going to call them, haven't had time. Sounds prettttttyyyyy tempting! HTC One X, you say? *GSMOOGLES*- DROOL 1.5ghz quad core??? Why does everything get topped in a matter of months!!! Good for people who can afford the status quo. :'( I want one now... my dreams will be haunted until I own a quad core phone now. :/ I just shelled $235.00 on an Acer A500 and I love it.... but i'll be darned if quad cores aren't about to $### on all of my current devices *FacePalm* /rant
Haha. XDA is such a loyal community.... love every moment on here.
'HTC One X Release date leak'
*** http://www.androidcentral.com/att-htc-one-x-release-date-moved-may-6-best-buy-tells-customer-e-mail ***
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Something to keep in mind about the One X is that there will be 2 different versions of it. Europe gets the Tegra 3 quad core but no LTE. In the US, the AT&T One X will have LTE but will be using a Qualcomm S4 dual core instead.

I just recently upgraded after weeks of debate and I have to say i am very happy and this is with the stock rom a couple quirks here Nd there but no show stoppers I'm very satisfied and I will be even more once we get ICS officially

gmkelly001 said:
Something to keep in mind about the One X is that there will be 2 different versions of it. Europe gets the Tegra 3 quad core but no LTE. In the US, the AT&T One X will have LTE but will be using a Qualcomm S4 dual core instead.
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So if I am wanting to get the HTC one X on my upgrade when the time comes, i'm still looking @ a dual-core phone? LAME! AT&T always finds some way to take the fun out of things! I don't need LTE I need QUAD CORE PROCESSING POWER WITH A 12 CORE GPU :O
AT&FAIL
Looks like I might go with the Nitro after all... virturally same specs... just an ugly bulky phone. (In some peoples' opinion.)
Does AT&T usually drop prices on que with new phone releases? I looked online for the BB deal for $50 w a bluetooth headset and just got the $99.99 to show... maybe it has to be in store for the promo.
Would be nice if an AT&T rogue dropped by with some pretty enlightening information regarding release dates and prices here's to wishful thinking!

i think you would be much happier with a white iphone 4

scott0 said:
i think you would be much happier with a white iphone 4
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http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_4-3275.php Or if you want to make it (still un)fair... http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Apple-iPhone-4S_id5257 VS http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nitro_hd-4329.php
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Thanks for the offer though, Scott. Why do you prefer the Iphone? Do you realize Apple manufactures these things to brick if they know you jailbroke them? Let alone shattered glass on front and back if you drop it on anything other than a pillow. :/
I prefer android because they have an open developer community, as well as more durable phones for the most part, if you're going to chunk your phone b/c ur mate pissed you off and you don't have a case on it, you are on your own there. For most of us though, our phones will only suffer a drop from pocket or head height. Aprox 6 ft drop. Take this food for thought >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKJp9EMRjXY <<< drop test between the Galasy S2 and Iphone 4

With cm9 this phone is prolly better than any phone at the market right now, even at&t's htc one x wont be much better than the nitro..
Only downside is the battery, i'm carrying 2 extra batterys to survive 24hrs away from the power plug, but thats because i use it a lot, when its idling it doesnt use that much(like 8/10% on 8hours sleep)

Ritcher said:
With cm9 this phone is prolly better than any phone at the market right now, even at&t's htc one x wont be much better than the nitro..
Only downside is the battery, i'm carrying 2 extra batterys to survive 24hrs away from the power plug, but thats because i use it a lot, when its idling it doesnt use that much(like 8/10% on 8hours sleep)
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Do you use juice defender or a screen filter for less power consumption? These two things usually increase my battery life on X device almost twice the normal runtime.

I had the p930 for a while now and i bricked it once took it back to Bell and they fixed it free of charged but I had to survive using a first generation palm pre.....for a week
and now I scared of rooting it again and flashing rom..

VinceIk said:
I had the p930 for a while now and i bricked it once took it back to Bell and they fixed it free of charged but I had to survive using a first generation palm pre.....for a week
and now I scared of rooting it again and flashing rom..
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How exactly did you manage to brick your phone sir? Usually it's due to impatience and pulling the battery/usb cord. I've done this before w my cappy. Luckily they are virturally unbrickable... with a jig.

wasnt impatience
thats what I did
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New Nexus Phone Reviewed Ahead of Launch (LG Nexus 4)

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/10/12/new-nexus-phone-reviewed-ahead-of-launch/
The new Nexus phone, presumed to be called the LG Nexus 4, has been reviewed ahead of its rumored launch date of October 29th.
Onliner, the same website that leaked the LG Nexus 4 several times this week, posted a full review of the device complete with detailed specifications as well as a side-by-side photo op with the previous Nexus smartphone, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
The review details some information that we had not known yet including the new Nexus phone’s size, weight and more. Apparently, the phone is 9.2mm thin which means that it’s much thicker than the iPhone 5 which is 7.6mm thin. It also weighs 139 grams, also heavier than the iPhone 5. The device is also thicker than the Galaxy Nexus by .03mm. It’s also wider but shorter than the Galaxy Nexus.
Read: New Nexus Phone vs. iPhone 5.
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The back of the new Nexus phone, unlike the Galaxy Nexus’, possesses no hump. It’s flush. The review also claims that the back is both smooth and glossy which could mean that it’s made of scratch-resistant glass. They took a key to the back to try and scratch it and could not do so.
The new Nexus phone does not contain any metal elements in its design. Instead, it’s made of plastic, just like the Galaxy Nexus.
Its display, which measures 4.7-inches, is a True IPS display which means that its not PenTile Matrix.The screen sports HD resolution, something that does not differ from the previous Nexus smartphone.
LG Nexus 4 has an 8MP rear camera, no pins for accessories, and it appears that the phone is running Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean, the latest from Google. It’s certainly possible that it could launch with Android 4.2 on board but at this point, it’s unclear.
Read: New Nexus Phone Compared to iPhone 5 in New Photos.
The device will also have a quad-core processor and 8GB of on board storage though Google may opt to sell one with a larger amount of storage space given the lack of a microSD card.
Google is rumored to be announcing the LG Nexus 4 on October 29th, likely at the All Things D: Dive Into Mobile conference where Andy Rubin, Google’s Android chief, is scheduled to speak.
In 2012, Rubin introduced the Motorola Xoom and Android 3.0 Honeycomb at the event so there is a distinct possibility that a LG Nexus 4 launch could occur that day as well.
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I can't take any review of revision 1.0 hardware seriously.
If you recall, the first Galaxy Nexus test devices too, were 8GB. It certainly didn't end up that way. Dropping the size of the NAND included cuts cost on testing hardware.
Its interesting to see them compared, but nothing is finalized yet, so there is no way it would launch this month. Some of these blog sites need to find some tech writers with common sense.

Awww LG Nexus? Think I'll pass..... came from LG G2x...
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now i wanna see what sony, samsung and htc come up with. just realized that the review website isn't reliable

kiddiosky said:
Awww LG Nexus? Think I'll pass..... came from LG G2x...
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Same here man, i had to actually buy me a hd2 because of the g2x being terrible, but since its going to be a google phone, it may see more support from both google and LG OEM.
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I have hope for a LG Nexus since its the software that usually blows.
Although LG batteries blow too.
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adrynalyne said:
Its interesting to see them compared, but nothing is finalized yet, so there is no way it would launch this month. Some of these blog sites need to find some tech writers with common sense.
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Don't see how you can say that when you have absolutely no idea when this particular rev 1 hardware was manufactured. There could easily have been 3, 4 or 10 revisions since this was made. The build date on the software gives you no indication of when the hardware was made.
If this really is rev 1 hardware of course we're not surprised to see lots of issues.

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Don't see how you can say that when you have absolutely no idea when this particular rev 1 hardware was manufactured. There could easily have been 3, 4 or 10 revisions since this was made. The build date on the software gives you no indication of when the hardware was made.
If this really is rev 1 hardware of course we're not surprised to see lots of issues.
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That said...you don't know either.
I don't think that tech writer does either.
Yet the reviewer is posting as fact that its coming with 8GB of onboard storage and to be released in a bit over two weeks.
It doesn't matter how old the device is. Its rev 1.0 and you don't base final specs off a prototype model nor think a release is imminent.

That reviewer did a review of the review done in ( sorry don't know the language) another language that actually has the device he was trying to review on hand. One that when is is translated clearly stated it was a early prototype and not to expect 8gb in final shipping versions.
Another case of let's just take something from somewhere and change a line or two and make stuff up for web hits.

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That reviewer did a review of the review done in ( sorry don't know the language) another language that actually has the device he was trying to review on hand. One that when is is translated clearly stated it was a early prototype and not to expect 8gb in final shipping versions.
Another case of let's just take something from somewhere and change a line or two and make stuff up for web hits.
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Doesn't surprise me.

Hey! Let's stop making a thousand threads about a RUMORED phone!
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Whoa... no easy way to change the battery in the prototype that's a pass if that makes it to production.

Sleuth255 said:
Whoa... no easy way to change the battery in the prototype that's a pass if that makes it to production.
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Of course there's no easy way, the battery is sealed. Likely the case when it goes on sale as well.

ayysir said:
more support from both google and LG OEM.
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Really? You serious? LG support?
That's a joke right?
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The front is the same as galaxy nexus -_-

The deal-breaker for me is the lack of pogo pins. It seems unlikely this wouldn't be on the prototype but would be on the production model. I went from a Nexus One to a Galaxy Nexus and have become very fond of being able to drop my phone into a desktop dock without messing with the USB connector.

I thought I read something indicating the reviewed unit was from April/May, can't refind it. Not that it would matter anyway, pure rumor. The review is somewhere between reviewing unicorns and reviewing a windows 8 phone where you aren't allowed to power on the device. Only useful info I got from it was seeing that there's a LED notification light, makes me believe they won't be getting rid of that feature any time soon. I don't feel like you can count on much of the appearance from a preproduction model.

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Whoa... no easy way to change the battery in the prototype that's a pass if that makes it to production.
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Of course that means LG can use a bigger battery giving users more battery life (initially anyways).

HTC M8 Prime coming out? What do you think?

HTC M8 Prime coming out? What do you think?
Would you be upset since you just purchased the M8?

Bla.. Sell this one buy the new one. Should companies stop making phone and adhere to some useless timelines like make a phone every year or 2 years etc. There is a new snapdragon 805 coming, new phones with QHD displays coming out soon. It will be foolish of HTC or any other company to wait till next year to release a phone with the new soc, screens etc.
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Qualcomm's Snapdragon 805 is going to be insane that's for sure. But if the rumors are true about the screen being 5.5 inch, I definitely don't want one. I'm drawing the line at a 5 inch screen, and I'm going to pray to every god I can think of that they don't decide to make the standard any bigger lol.

Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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I'll wait and see what it's got before I pull the trigger , but if it's got the same looks and size with an updated camera I'll be buying it
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snowwhite007 said:
Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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omg you said that spot on!

When is a phone not a phone.
When it becomes a phablet. I think their is a fine line to what you can hold sensibly like a phone. Even if you have huge mitts.
I have large hands and this is my limit, size wise for a daily driver. Being able to fit in my pocket etc.
But second devices are always good

grentuu said:
When is a phone not a phone.
When it becomes a phablet.
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People have been saying this since the original Galaxy Note came out. At the time, most industry commenters expected the Note to fail spectacularly, but it, and its successors, were a massive commercial success.
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But second devices are always good
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Whilst I have an M8, it isn't my primary phone - that's a Galaxy Note 3. So, my M8 is my secondary device!
I don't care if people say it's "too big" because for my purposes I don't find that to be the case at all - and I don't have overly large hands and find the Note 3 perfectly pocketable.
The point is that we all have different needs and requirements.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
People have been saying this since the original Galaxy Note came out. At the time, most industry commenters expected the Note to fail spectacularly, but it, and its successors, were a massive commercial success.
Whilst I have an M8, it isn't my primary phone - that's a Galaxy Note 3. So, my M8 is my secondary device!
I don't care if people say it's "too big" because for my purposes I don't find that to be the case at all - and I don't have overly large hands and find the Note 3 perfectly pocketable.
The point is that we all have different needs and requirements.
Regards,
Dave
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Each to their own.... I just find it funny when I see people raise something the size of a small child to their ears

grentuu said:
Each to their own.... I just find it funny when I see people raise something the size of a small child to their ears
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I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
My first hand portable phone was a Nokia Orange: http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/nokia/nokia_2140.php
It was over double the size (volumetrically) than my Note 3, and, obviously, a far less capable device with a lot lower battery life. It was also one of the first GSM (digital) devices, and as such much smaller than most of the analogue phones you could get back then.
My point is that it didn't really seem silly or unusual to have such a large device back then.
Given how much more capable modern phones are, I don't have a problem with the size, because, for me, the benefits of the large screen massively outweigh any disadvantages (of which there are surprisingly few). I'd happily add a few mm and grams to the Note 3 (and my M8 for that matter) to get an even bigger battery, but I digress!
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Dave

foxmeister said:
I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
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Dave
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Ok.... It's give me a clue time.
I was born before the Beatles came to fame.
Quite a few years before Armstrong stood on the moon....
Our house phone looked like this
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and our neighbours used to come in and sit and watch with us...
Technology spent years trying to 'downsize' their products and now all of a sudden it wants big and brash again. Incidentally, are we heading back to here? (My first mobile)
I have no problems with the bigger products. Like I said, it's just when people hold them to their ears.
Incidentally you young whippersnapper...who wins the age argument
Take care
Rob
P.S. Sorry for being Off topic OP - but it is kind of relevant

I dont think HTC will start selling a device just like their flagship but more powerful. They will aim an other market, and the 5.5 Inch rumor makes sense. I personally own the M8 and for my personal preferences thats the maximum size for a phone. There are people which are ok with their One MAX or Note 3. I just think this device will not be out to compete with the One M8

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Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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This is my philosophy as well.
There are only a few circumstances where waiting pays off.

foxmeister said:
I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
My first hand portable phone was a Nokia Orange: http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/nokia/nokia_2140.php
It was over double the size (volumetrically) than my Note 3, and, obviously, a far less capable device with a lot lower battery life. It was also one of the first GSM (digital) devices, and as such much smaller than most of the analogue phones you could get back then.
My point is that it didn't really seem silly or unusual to have such a large device back then.
Given how much more capable modern phones are, I don't have a problem with the size, because, for me, the benefits of the large screen massively outweigh any disadvantages (of which there are surprisingly few). I'd happily add a few mm and grams to the Note 3 (and my M8 for that matter) to get an even bigger battery, but I digress!
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Good point. Actually, at those days we used to make a call with the phone in our hands. Today I have a bt-headset and a pebble, which let me keep my phone in the pocket unless I need to google or read mails. Then, of course, size matters!
BTW, my jeans pockets are the same size than those of 1994, so what?
We will soon see that even Apple steps away from their masters voice, which claimed "nobody needs a phone bigger that an iPhone".

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Couldn't have said ti better myself. Ther'es always something newer and better on the horizon. Either go bankrupt buying them all or just be happy with what you got until you're ready to upgrade.

If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
Sent from my HTC M8

Simer03 said:
If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
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wait, you get fast when you are on crack? damn! i do the opposite.
you must be special. :good:

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If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
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the m8 is already on crack, the prime maybe on meth

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the m8 is already on crack, the prime maybe on meth
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Yeah, I underclocked and undervolted my CPU, constantly uses power saving mode, and my M8 still handles all the multitasking and games flawlessly.
The thing is, smartphones are significantly over-powered nowadays. In terms of usage, the jump from S801 to S805 or anything faster would be far less necessary in at least a year.

The prime would probably just have better specs. No point in it since I end up underclocking my CPU to 1.8GHz and only using 3 cores lol. Still don't see any lag.

Waiting on Nexus 6, how many of you would jump?

My Nexus 6 should arrive on Dec 15 and I'm totally looking forward to dumping LG G3. It took half year to bump the bootloader and get AOSP, it's too much for me. And I can't stand LG firmware, it's crap and laggy.
so I wonder, how many ppl here are waiting/ready to jump the ship ?

Why do so many people complain about lag i have zero lag. And as for development being slow if it was that big of a problem learn to do it yourself which a lot of people dont have time for. Nexus 6 will get way better development support because its bootloader can already be unlocked and its completely open source so hardly a fair comparison imo. Wouldnt ditch my G3 entirely for a n6 but would love to try one
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its way too big... i find the LG G3 big... its not a device you can carry around in jeans etc... Nexus 6 is a tablet IMHO..
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Wouldn't switch right now, myself. The N6 is showing the same early-adopter problems the N5 did. Also not willing to encourage Google to take the road they are starting to lean towards. Given the spec comparisons between the N6 and the current and near-term competition, the asking price is a bit, optimistic shall we say, on Google's part. Beyond those concerns, I really like my G3. Beautiful display, snappy and responsive. I can't even say that LG's skin bothers me all that much. There were some additional features I wanted, so I rooted and did some tinkering with Xposed, but I am still running the stock ROM, and expect to be for the foreseeable future. Being that I haven't run stock for longer than it took me to root my previous phones, that's saying something. The only thing I can think of that might tempt me to flash a custom ROM would be if the PA team added the G3 to their list of officially supported devices. Even that might not be enough. Having been a flash junkie for a bit, I do appreciate the stability of a (mostly) stock ROM these days.

This years nexus phone simply costs too much this time off-contract. I think more people would opt to get the OPO. I managed to snag a G3 for $69 on contract. I wouldn't normally go on-contract, but we got a really sweet deal from work that made it worthwhile. (Free roaming data in any country, massive minutes package, special international rates, etc...)

This device is clearly intended for international users, For US/Canadian users your better off owning a Samsung, HTC or Motorola, If your into custom anything.
I personally would like to change over from the G3 to the Nexus 6 or the Moto x 2014. If the Nexus 6 is to big for me i'll defnitly go for the Moto X 2014. Either way eff this lg ****.
The G3 is THE NICEST device, Physically. But when it comes anything about the phone that isn't physical it just sucks sack. (except that notification area, LG did right here, But failed everywhere else)
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Why do so many people complain about lag i have zero lag. And as for development being slow if it was that big of a problem learn to do it yourself which a lot of people dont have time for. Nexus 6 will get way better development support because its bootloader can already be unlocked and its completely open source so hardly a fair comparison imo. Wouldnt ditch my G3 entirely for a n6 but would love to try one
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I can't speak for everyone here, But for myself my G3 lags like **** and the responsiveness goes into the toilet the instant ANY Xposed module is installed (I haven't found a module yet that doesn't cause a system wide lag and/or battery drain). After I disable module and everything is fine, Re-enable ANY module and phone is back to performing like ****.
On my phone some apps cause the same thing.
It's not the fact that we "can't" reset, It's the fact that your playing Russian roulette on this device everytime you install anything and then having to flash every damn time an app causes an internal slowdown. (Most of the time uninstalling the bad app doesn't help, Usually requires a full flash to get rid of the problem.)
All Xposed modules on D852 = Will cause system wide phone lag for no explainable reason.
All Custom kernel on D852 = Will cause system wide phone lag for no explainable reason.
Some apps on D852 = Will cause system wide phone lag for no explainable reason.
Just because someone develops their own stuff isn't going to make anything faster.
It would take you just as long to develop anything as it would for anyone that is currently already developing for this platform.
If your not waiting for someone to build you something, You're just sitting there waiting the same amount of time waiting on yourself to do the exact same thing. Not only that but you can sit here on the G3 and get 1 rom a month or you can get a phone with real development and have roms fired at you so fast you can't even test them all.

I want to. I want to get the moto x '14. But I'm on verizon edge. And that means to do it now is have to pay 200 bucks and give them the phone. Or wait 8 months and just give them the phone. (I have to pay 75% of the phones off contract price at 26 bucks a month.) or if I pay it off 100% I can keep it. So I'm going to wait another month or so and see how lollipop treats us vzw people. If I don't get lp by then I'm going to pay them the money and go on my merry way. I'll never buy a phone with a aftermarket skin again. Just moto and nexus.
My wife got the m8. Hate dealing with it. Mom got the s5. Its a pain. And me with LG. I rocked moto back in the devour days with blur. I'd rather have that **** than this. But. Hey. Whatever. I think Motorola should do a devour redo. Same unibody metal shell, New specs, New screen, no blur. Oh man it'd be amazing.
Sent from my LG G3.

I was thinking but not any more. Love g3 for external memory and removable battery.

I was between the N6 and the G3, and picked the G3 because it is half the price! I even got the 32/3GB version for a little bit more. I couldn't believe Google's asking price for the Nexus 6. Oh well, good for them! It seems it's selling well even though it has a SLEW of problems! For its size it has terrible battery life and mediocre imaging... For their asking price I'd say it's not a good deal, except for the whole idea that it's going to get updated for years to come! But by next year or the following at most I'll be changing devices anyways...
Regardless, the Nexus 6 looks like a good phone. But I'm too happy with my G3 awesome battery, awesome screen, 0 lag, great camera. No complaints! Enjoy your Nexus 6 It's a monster of a phone

I would like a N6 but its rather pricey and more of a sideways moment on the G3.
The main reason I want a N6 is for the Dev support not due to lag on the G3 cause I have non, my is lighting fast.

Neurom707 said:
Why do so many people complain about lag i have zero lag. And as for development being slow if it was that big of a problem learn to do it yourself which a lot of people dont have time for. Nexus 6 will get way better development support because its bootloader can already be unlocked and its completely open source so hardly a fair comparison imo. Wouldnt ditch my G3 entirely for a n6 but would love to try one
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Same... zero lag ever, still on 4.4.2 waiting for OTA.
I don't know why people say this phone is laggy... I think they're just whingers. Mine is slick as a really slick thing. No root, no XPosed fail modules, just stock smooth.